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30 minutes ago, sava2sava said:

@celebrianna  Glad you mention it.. SN wearing some nice coat.. Love this one until I saw that RED Belt wrap her waist..  I thought excuse my language but WTF is this..:o Her fashion coordinator should be shot.. Even as and actress she should have spoke up herself.. No way would I be caught on camera with that Belt wrap around my waist..

I think outfits like those should only be worn on a fashion runway where all kind of weird clothes appear. 

 

@sava2sava, I think SN’s last trump card will be to find out JH’s secret. She knows it’s deadly so a better bet is on this secret as opposed to Baek. Perhaps she’ll use a Baek in the interim. By the way, did the preview synopsis for Monday say Baek showed up at Jae Dong’s restaurant?

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3 minutes ago, celebrianna said:

I think outfits like those should only be worn on a fashion runway where all kind of weird clothes appear. 

 

@sava2sava, I think SN’s last trump card will be to find out JH’s secret. She knows it’s deadly so a better bet is on this secret as opposed to Baek. Perhaps she’ll use a Baek in the interim. By the way, did the preview synopsis for Monday say Baek showed up at Jae Dong’s restaurant?

Not so sure If he shows up their.. 

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When I use Google Translate for the synopsis of Monday’s episode it says:

  1. Sena, who is angry at Koji for changing her (his?) business partner, has somehow tried to change her (his?) heart.
  2. In the meantime, knowing his (her?) illness, the complicated minded person pushes out the senses. (I believe this is about Jung Bin because while translating some of the words her name showed up before the entire sentence was completed. Perhaps it’s saying that she’s pushing HG away). 
  3. On the other hand, Baek Chul, who is under the supervision of Chung (could be Jung) visits Jae Dong restaurant.

 

Perhaps someone with better knowledge of the Korean language can translate. I get the gist though. It seems like JH and Koji teamed up in today’s episode since at the end SN walked into the hotel room and JH is there. But the preview shows SN pretending to faint or fainting in Koji’s hotel room. Perhaps one of her ploys to gain sympathy or seduce him.

 

The preview for Monday also shows JB avoiding HG and then I think she might have broken up with him? He had a hurt expression after she told him something. I hope their fallout don’t last long because it’s tiring to continue watching discord in their relationship after all this push and pulling.

 

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2 hours ago, celebrianna said:

:lol: Where in the world is the fashion police? SN needs to be handcuffed right now. What the heck is she wearing as an excuse for a coat? :sweatingbullets:

 

Anyway, I have to wait for subs because I have no idea what’s being said. Thanks for the clip @dramaninja.

I thought I saw Jumong came back for a remake!!!  or better yet Prince Lan Ling of China!!!

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I foresee an upcoming fight between Jung/SN/fake daddy and JH/GY/HG. Since SN was in mobster Chairman office trying to convince him that team JH/GY/HG is coming against their team, he seemed to have taken the bait especially when she reminded him that he’s the one who destroyed JH’s family business and JH will not let it slide. 

 

How timely of her to point it out just after JH told GY his intentions behind securing YB City. He’s also beginning to search for that weasel who scammed his mother since he’s needed as a witness for DY’s murder. Mobster Chairman seem to feel that JH can’t do anything because he has the weasel and he knows JH wants the weasel. I think the danger might start to increase now. 

 

I’m not exactly sure what JH is attempting to do with this Koji person but I hope he’s not resting all his plans on him. He definitely seem like a guy who can be seduced by SN. SN is definitely going after JH’s secret. The topic is coming up too often now. K warned JH that SN was trying to probe him for background information on how they met. I’m wondering if JH isn’t taking it seriously though. K hinted that maybe Unstable Mabel might have said something to SN while they were drinking together. Well, the fact is, SN did raise this issue with JH right to his face so he should know Unstable Mabel was talking.

 

As to Unstable Mabel, I wish her mother would just come get her. Still can’t stand the sight of her. It’s worse now that she’s basically lit a fire that will put JH in more danger. I guess that’s her brand of love. She also wants to go home instead of going to a psych ward. I hope she goes to a psych hospital because maybe then at least YS can get to spend a little more time with his dad especially since SN was talking about spending Christmas with her daughter.

 

JB. I understand her but I am hoping that her secret doesn’t stay secret. I’m not sure if she’s upset because she wanted kids or she’s upset because now things are hopeless with HG because he’s the heir to a conglomerate and that means producing an heir. I wish she had someone to talk to and cry with. Also, I wonder if it’s entirely hopeless for her. I mean, with the advancements in medicine and a ton of money, who knows what can be done for her. Granted, going through the stress of trying to conceive sure is a turn off. 

 

Regarding JH, I wonder if he stole from mobsters or something like that.

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Ep 93 w/Eng subs:

 

SICK to death with the NiceSis & HotHeir story line. They are together.  They are not. They are together.  They are not.   ENOUGH!!!  I have whiplash.  Somewhere... didn't HotHunk say he was 37 years old?  If so, NiceSis, being Noona, is older.  What's with the angst about babies at 40?  OF COURSE THERE IS GOING TO BE ANGST ABOUT BABIES AT 40!!!  So throwing in a uterine fibroid, really Writer.  Can you get any more lame?  I gave you the benefit of the doubt when NiceSis starting having stomach pains, thought HotHeir was going to have a fiancee with a kiddo and a pregnant x-girlfriend.  But NOOOooo!  You didn't use the opportunity to make it juicier, you flubbed.  BigTime!  Now STOP.  S. T. O. P. 

 

The elephant in the room:  WHAT THE FREAKIN' HELL IS UP WITH WITCHYFAKE'S WARDROBE?  Is she masquerading as a skunk?  Santa in black?  An elf that went to the DarkSide?  That 'outfit' was so horrible:  too big, too hairy, too rectangular, too fuzzy, too black, the belt was too thick and too red and ... the cape collar???  The only way that outfit would look better is if it was on-fire while she was wearing it!

 

Lots of dialogue, little action.  Sooo, sleazy WitchyFake is going to spend the holidays in Europe with Kiko, or whatever his name is.  AND, she can bring her kiddo.  Then, WitchyFake is busy busy busy stabbing her fake brother, the one that lets her live in his house, in the back with a knife she has dulled for the occasion.  She wants for just she and the EvilCEO to make all the decisions regarding YB City.  EvilCEO falls for it, until HotHunk saunters in and outs her for using her feminine wiles, and pretending to Kilo, or whatever his name is,  to be related to the EvilPrez, as enticements.  Uh-oh.  EvilCEO doesn't like being duped!  Now she has to follow proper protocol during further business negotiations.  Yeah, she is sooo diligent about observing protocol.  Then HotHunk marches hisdamnhotself over to Kito's, or whatever his name is, hotel and butts-hisdamnhotself into the situation.  Now Kelo, or whatever his name is, says he will be doing bizness with HotHunk in the future.  HotHunk looks smug.  THAT was what caused the horror-struck look on WitchyFake's face, not seeing her own image in that contraption of a dress in the mirror.   

 

These people... crossing, double-crossing, back-stabbing going on.  Didn't WitchyFake put EvilCEO in prison?  WHY WHY WHY would he even entertain working again with her?  Because it's KDrama?  It's really irritating that all these people carry around grudges as though they had easy-lift handles while single-mindedly seeking their 'revenge,' but continually live and work with the very people that caused their crash 'n burn.  Maybe these dramas need money for larger casts?  Everyone of these characters is just a mass of scar tissue at the end of the 30th episode, when episodes number in the 90s they are whackin 'n hacking at scar tissue and not making a dent.  

 

FINALLY, will DeRanged's mother come and take her whack-a-doodle daughter off of HotHunk's hands?  Think she's in the States... maybe, just maybe... HotHunk, who as her husband could commit her with the stroke of a pen, makes a deal to send her back to her mom in the States instead of the psych ward.  I vote YES!  Who knows what she will do if she has to go into psychiatric lock-down.  

 

Preview:  Looks like another fake faint from WitchyFake is coming.  

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@watchumlots I was like an idiot laughing all by myself reading your recap - I was hoping that Japanese Kilo, Kito or Kiko or whatever his name is, is a hunky as the HotHunk - that ajinomoto guy looks just like HK - no meat at all - glad he's not wearing a suit otherwise,, he would look like HK who looks like a skeleton walking on the streets of Seoul - can't his stylish give him clothes that would fit his body like that of HottyHunky?  He wears clothes that swallow him whole.  Oh, BTW -  I would like to commend JH's stylist - he/she dresses him like someone who's always on the runway.

 

The whole situation right now in this drama is an  insult to how South Korea handle their crimes.  People of money goes in and out of prison - attend meetings - commit crimes - come out of prison again- plan dirty games, etc.  The evil deeds the characters are doing are just non-stop and out of line.  And yet, the authorities are not doing anything.  Once the criminals are caught, they say the usual, and then let them go.  End this drama already - and send the writer somewhere - have her join the migrant caravan. 

 

BTW - the First Female Empress is looking for her wardrobe send it back, Kang Sena.

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14 hours ago, watchumlots said:

FINALLY, will DeRanged's mother come and take her whack-a-doodle daughter off of HotHunk's hands?  Think she's in the States... maybe, just maybe... HotHunk, who as her husband could commit her with the stroke of a pen, makes a deal to send her back to her mom in the States instead of the psych ward.  I vote YES!  Who knows what she will do if she has to go into psychiatric lock-down.  

Regarding this, as bad as it will be for JH, I feel it might be better for the people to find out where he is. Only then can Deranged’s power over him become void. I don’t want it to happen but neither can Deranged be trusted to not spill his secret any further or not call those people in one of her emotionally unstable episodes even if she would do us all the favor of disappearing to the US with her long lost mom. She obviously think holding on to a man who has not shown her any intimate affection will make her happy for the rest of her life. Big mistake. 

 

No doubt his tolerance for her is limitless because I’m beginning to think that Deranged has to seriously vex him in order for him to overcome his guilt and pity for her. He didn’t even seem upset when she threatened him twice that he can’t leave her easily and that one call to the US will be the end of him. Nevermind he did these dangerous things to save her sorry life. She ignores this and use it to blackmail him because like I have already concluded, she’s an extortionist masquerading as a victim. 

 

I do think that eventually SN, Mobster Chairman and Fake Daddy might join hands to find out JH’s weakness especially if he’s able to find that guy who can testify that Baek Chul killed DY. Mobster Chairman would then lose his power over JH and they will try to get rid of JH through investigating the information that Deranged already hinted to SN or SN will get more information from Deranged by pressing that dummy’s buttons. I have full faith in Deranged that she’ll eventually put JH’s life in danger. 

 

@viyra, I have watched a lot of Korean crime drama and their police and prosecutors are almost always corrupt. So much so that one time I asked my South Korean coworker, who is a consultant who goes back and forth to SK, if the justice system in SK is really like that. He basically said that it’s pretty much like everywhere else in developed countries. However, while US crime shows generally don’t portray the justice system as corrupt, the SK crime shows portray the justice system as overwhelmingly corrupt in a lot of crime shows. The prosecutors are always in cohoots with the rich for career upward mobility and perks and the prosecutors direct the cops so it’s a cesspool in a lot of their crime shows. 

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I would really find no enjoyment AT ALL with this drama if I didn't visit this forum. It has gotten on my sciatic nerve (I used that particular nerve because it sounds good. :)). Ya'll are the best at making me laugh! I didn't really pay attention to what was being said in this episode. I was too busy looking for SeNa's legs/feet. If she were scooting around on ice skates that would have set off the outfit perfectly. 

 

We're down to the final few episodes. By now it should have gotten exciting or something, but naw, it's the same-o-same-o.

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This week's episode were enough boring with this reverse acquisition and business cases. I guess we will get full actions next week (CDB, USpeople, YBCity), because just about 10 episode stayed in 2 weeks (+1). 

What I could appreciate this week: KY-JH moment (about jealousy) and dad-son moments: HotHunk's surprised face is always funny when he found his son in his office or in his arms. I guess in the beginning he was afraid that his son would not like him or he looks at him as stranger (now he is more courageous), but YoonSoo immediately accepted him because KY told a lot of good thing about his dad to their son. This is his fortune, he can thank a lot and lot to KY... I don't know Emily (completely useless character), first I want to know what happened in the US.

Poor JB, she can't push HyunKi off... Blood isn't the most important, she has to think about a lot of children who their parents abandoned and she can give them much love with adoption. But I have premonition, that they will adopt SoYi or in the end JB will be pregnant and KY too at the same time :D I don't think that KY-JH will adopt SoYi (maybe the grandparents or HyunKi--JB), because I didn't see HotHunk interact with her. Although when KY said to Sena that she will beg her for SoYi's adoption, it showed JH-KY option.

 

21 hours ago, viyra said:

I was hoping that Japanese Kilo, Kito or Kiko or whatever his name is, is a hunky as the HotHunk - that ajinomoto guy looks just like HK - no meat at all - glad he's not wearing a suit otherwise,, he would look like HK who looks like a skeleton walking on the streets of Seoul - can't his stylish give him clothes that would fit his body like that of HottyHunky?  He wears clothes that swallow him whole.  Oh, BTW -  I would like to commend JH's stylist - he/she dresses him like someone who's always on the runway.

BTW - the First Female Empress is looking for her wardrobe send it back, Kang Sena.

I thought the same, that japanese guy will be a bit hunk....We were wrong :lol: I'm curious about US people: Are they so frightening and maybe hunk?:P Kang Eun Tak knows how wear clothes: My favourite is light blue shirt (white on collar and sleeve) from 56 episode. And from KY my favourite clothing is brown, long jacket, black blouse with pencil skirt from 62 episode (although they usually dress her with loose and big coat). Shortly commenting Evil Witch's style: I'm sorry but it's horrible (not just that coat, other clothes weren't good).

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4 hours ago, csancsy said:

I thought the same, that japanese guy will be a bit hunk....We were wrong :lol: I'm curious about US people: Are they so frightening and maybe hunk?:P Kang Eun Tak knows how wear clothes: My favourite is light blue shirt (white on collar and sleeve) from 56 episode. And from KY my favourite clothing is brown, long jacket, black blouse with pencil skirt from 62 episode (although they usually dress her with loose and big coat). Shortly commenting Evil Witch's style: I'm sorry but it's horrible (not just that coat, other clothes weren't good).

l dont think they choose their own clothes. That is their stylist arranging and choosing clothes for them. Kang (JH) and Lee (GY) look very nice and stylish in their dressings. Most of their outfit suit them well except Lee's coat is too big for her in recent episode. Lee looks so much prettier than the first half episodes so is Kang.

Hong (SN) looks older with her so thick make-up and dressings. She wore the red coat with belt as l thought look so much like Santa Claus outfit.

 

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On 12/10/2018 at 9:14 PM, Pam_Van Fossen said:

Totally agree with you regarding JH, Emily and GY.  He didn't actually say he was choosing Emily but as you said he did say some things that would put GY off as far as their relationship.  I am sure he felt he needed Emily to live in order to get SN accused of murder but the way he put it was that he could not live without her.  That would hurt.  I am happy that GY is being strong and following through with her revenge.  I know she is not going to marry HG, although, I do believe he could be persuaded if she wanted to go through with it. 

 

 

GY has endured a lot in dealing with JH and his wacko contract wife. She has shown remarkable patience with the constant threats and harassing phone calls from the wacko contract wife. Just for this alone I loathe the wacko contract wife. If she hadn’t done these things to GY I wouldn’t have such strong feelings towards her. After all, JH walked into this mess himself and should deal with it himself. If he’s given a second chance with GY, I think he has a lot to apologize for just for all the things GY had to forbear with from the wacko contract wife. 

 

Also, I’m beginning to feel impatient with JH. I know he feels sorry for the contract wife and has to wait for her to become mentally stronger but I also feel he’s encouraging her dependency on him. In the meantime, I can clearly see now why GY didn’t want YS to meet his father until after the two months. Notice the child has been asking more often now for his father. His grandfather also mentioned that he’s growing excited to see his father so the child has increasing expectations towards JH which to me is not good because he’ll be disappointed. This only make things more difficult for GY because she has to give him answers and worry about the impact on the child. It must have really been foreshadowing back then when JH told GY he wanted to have a child and she objected and said that he comes home late and that means she’ll be the one left taking care of the child. He had promised her that he’ll help out and so she gave in and agreed to them start trying to get pregnant and sure enough she’s the one who ended up raising the child.

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Nothing good to post for tonights episodes, as usual the HK and JB breakup because JB might not get pregnant..i dont understand why this writer put this problem for them in the script actually is like any viewers dont care about what happen to them because honestly from the beginning their relationship is not that special..

Chief Baek went to Jaedong restaurant of course GY see him and also JH went to restaurant also..i also dont understand GY, she must told her parents about this chief baek guy who killed her brother DY so that her parents will pay more attention and not let chief baek enter in their restaurant again...hayyzz really...

 

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Personally I like JB and HG and I want their relationship to work out. I think their relationship is more than “usual” simply for the fact that both are still holding on after two decades and they have a different relationship dynamic when they get along. I’m very annoyed with this stupid writer for doing this to them. My aerobics instructor just had her first baby at 44 years old after getting married at 42 years and trying for a while to get pregnant. So I know it really gets difficult to become pregnant with age but to make it so JB can’t have kids is terrible of this writer after putting their relationship through the wringer so many times.

 

 I saw the clip of Baek Chul going to the restaurant and I was annoyed with GY for not telling her parents anything. I will just assume she will in tomorrow’s episode. They really need to buy a house.

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1 minute ago, celebrianna said:

Personally I like JB and HG and I want their relationship to work out. I think their relationship is more than “usual” simply for the fact that both are still holding on after two decades and they have a different relationship dynamic when they get along. I’m very annoyed with this stupid writer for doing this to them. My aerobics instructor just had her first baby at 44 years old after getting married at 42 years and trying for a while to get pregnant. So I know it really gets difficult to become pregnant with age but to make it so JB can’t have kids is terrible of this writer after putting their relationship through the wringer so many times.

 

 I saw the clip of Baek Chul going to the restaurant and I was annoyed with GY for not telling her parents anything. I will just assume she will in tomorrow’s episode. They really need to buy a house.

But the preview for tom is to sad,,,GY telling emily that she now dont like JH, i think that Chairman Jung tell something to GY because i can see in the preview the SN remainding Chairman jung not to trust the engagement of GY and HK because GY become like a monster or something then Chairman jung talk to GY...hayyzz i think im going to skip watching for this week episode first maybe i gonna watch this week episode on sat ot sun at least 5episode alreadt finish..

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1 hour ago, joan0528 said:

Nothing good to post for tonights episodes, as usual the HK and JB breakup because JB might not get pregnant..i dont understand why this writer put this problem for them in the script actually is like any viewers dont care about what happen to them because honestly from the beginning their relationship is not that special..

Chief Baek went to Jaedong restaurant of course GY see him and also JH went to restaurant also..i also dont understand GY, she must told her parents about this chief baek guy who killed her brother DY so that her parents will pay more attention and not let chief baek enter in their restaurant again...hayyzz really...

 

l agree tonight episode is almost the same......SN getting trick by JH and Koji. Koji is actually a korean guy, he is also taking revenge against Chairman Jung. Luckily, he did not fall SN charm as JH has told him everything about her.

l really dislike to see her always in tears and faint to gain pitiful from man.

lt's sweet and cute that GY told her son about her love affairs with JH when they met.

Chief Baek was threatening GY and JH knew about him was in Jaedong restaurant from K. He quickly went to GY's rescue.

l guess Chairman Jung is threatening GY if she does not marry HK, he will take YB cosmetic from her and not to hand over Chief Baek to JH and maybe about the trouble that he got from America.

ln order to save her company and business and also taking revenge against Chief Baek, she has no choice is to let Emily to have JH.

 

Their revenge will never come to an end. l already feel like giving up. For me, l will just watch next week episode as to see what will happen to JH and GY.

 

 

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@joan0528 and @fansdrama, I don’t even know what to say anymore. Personally I wouldn’t sell my soul or life for any business or money so I really do not understand these characters. Perhaps because I grew up in a free country I have never understood characters letting other people dictate their lives as adults. I’m watching the drama Encounter and it’s pretty much like this too. Well, if GY and HG want to live their lives at the dictate of others, it’s really their choice.

 

Also why does GY have to tell Emily anything though. Emily already claims JH as hers.

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 @fansdrama @celebrianna i think GY is thinking of marrying HK to save JH, also chairman jung is holding CDB if they didnot follow chairman jung order CDB will be out in the story unless JH find and snatch CDB to Chairman jung...but i think from the preview JH know already where they hide CDB..i just hope they can take him because i dont like chairman jung holding GY and YS as hostage so that JH will not be able to touch him or YB city 

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1 minute ago, joan0528 said:

 @fansdrama @celebrianna i think GY is thinking of marrying HK to save JH, also chairman jung is holding CDB if they didnot follow chairman jung order CDB will be out in the story unless JH find and snatch CDB to Chairman jung...but i think from the preview JH know already where they hide CDB..i just hope they can take him because i dont like chairman jung holding GY and YS as hostage so that JH will not be able to touch him or YB city 

Quite frankly it’s time for these villains to get their just desserts. And maybe too this new development will shake up JH because he need to get rid of his contract wife. He’s being too passive and complacent as though he wants GY to continue waiting for the rest of her life. 

 

Still,I really dislike how characters in Korean shows let people control them. It’s the strangest thing for me to watch. I guess this will be up to JH to decide if he wants his son raised by someone else or stay at the side of his contract wife. 

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