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[Drama 2018] The Third Charm, 제3의 매력

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Thought i'll drop a last note. I truly loved all the OSTs in this drama. Have them on replay mode in my playlist too. But, i really hate how the drama is going, in these final few eps. Guess im going to drop this drama from ep 13 onwards. I think Esom is a good actress, unfortunately YJ as a character hit all the wrong notes for me. I understand losing a child is painful, but i dont think getting ur ex-bf to heal the pain is right. It feels kinda selfish. Sorry not sorry, i just cant like YJ or support her totally. JY is a nice guy. But sorry, i also cant like how he's a pushover for YJ. The story/characters doesnt make sense to me, so i cant continue watching, or i'll end up super frustrated. I dont blame any of the actors though.. and i think they all acted their part really well. I put 100% blame on the writer. The story and characters are just too messed up for me to root for any of them and its all just a big disappointing drama. Loved the OSTs though. To all, have fun til the end! Not long to go now.. 

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Just came to add a little something I was thinking about while watching ep 13 but didn't notice until now. It's a little strange that JY didn't mention YJ is his ex to his fiance. I can understand why, but I feel sad about that. 

 

The real JY would have shared it... 

 

As far as I've watched the drama, it's very realistic and close to real life. It's messy and sometimes illogical but everyone has their own reasons for choosing their actions, even if it is not easily understandable to others. 

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1 hour ago, 122am said:

Just came to add a little something I was thinking about while watching ep 13 but didn't notice until now. It's a little strange that JY didn't mention YJ is his ex to his fiance. I can understand why, but I feel sad about that. 

 

The real JY would have shared it... 

 

As far as I've watched the drama, it's very realistic and close to real life. It's messy and sometimes illogical but everyone has their own reasons for choosing their actions, even if it is not easily understandable to others. 

Pretty sure his fiance knows YJ is his ex. Didn't she see the photoshoot pictures in the magazine that time? All the other cops around him saw them. 

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20 hours ago, chickfactor said:

 

Joo-Ran goes to see a doctor. Exam results seems like she has a cancerous tumor. (NOOOOO!) Back in her car, she calls YJ, but hangs up and calls Soo-Jae. He says to come to eat with her, but sounds busy.

 

Later, she sits there while he's on the phone arguing with CEO about the casting of his next movie. JR scolds him for rejecting the idol actor, and calls him a snob. Then she complains that he is selfish and only thinks about his own problems and never thinks about her. He says that all she does is get dumped by her blind dates and how is that a big deal? (Ouch.) She leaves tells him that he is selfish and stuck-up. Goes to her car and breaks down crying.

 

[End of Part 1]

 

JR is spot on about SJ.  He is totally self-centred.  I remember after JY broke up with YJ and SJ called him up to thank him for helping him proof read his script for the competition.  He didn't even try to console JY but went on about himself.  

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2 minutes ago, vladlola06 said:

Ep 14... I had very strongly thought about this possibility, but I didn't think that writers would dare ... :unsure:

What happened? 

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Ep. 14 - recap

 

Young-Jae comes home, looks at the Thermos that Joon-Young gave her, leaves it on the counter.

 

Joon-Young is dressed up, ready to go to Se-Eun's home. His parents are fussing over him. Very cute and sweet. Se-Eun comes and they leave. Joon-Young is driving. He says he's nervous and thinks that her family will scold him for letting her suffer for too long. She says that her father is not scary, but he is very cute instead.

 

Joo-Ran's salon. The idol-actor Oh Min-Joon (known as MJ) getting his hair done is the one who wanted to be in Soo-Jae's movie. He complains that Soo-Jae doesn't like him. Joo-Ran says, "Yes, that blind and dumb writer."

 

Auditions for the movie. Bunch of young actors. One of them turns out to be MJ. He's auditioning without telling his managers. We don't see it, but afterwards, he has coffee with Soo-Jae, and SJ tells him that he was good. MJ tells SJ that he has a complex and feels pressure about being an idol, thanks for watching his audition and it's fine if he doesn't get the role, but feels good about having tried everything he could.

 

JY and SE arrive at her family home. Mom, Dad, two brothers. Mom and SE are in the kitchen, JY sits with the men. Photos show that her father and her brothers were all in the military. Eating.

 

One bro: How can you feed your wife with only one table at the restaurant?

Mom: He's a chef, he will obviously feed her well.

Other bro: And why did you quit being a detective? You had the highest test scores.

JY: It didn't fit my aptitude and I enjoy cooking.

Bro: So if cooking stops fitting your aptitude, you'll just quit again?

Father puts his spoon down and says: "bring alcohol."

 

Mother brings him huge cups and soju. He pours a huge cup for JY. JY pours one for him. Father tells him to drink it all at once. JY does. When they leave, Mother gives him honey bread, the men say nothing.

 

After they leave, they talk about JY and it turns out that they all liked him even though they gave him a hard time. They thought he might be a stuck-up Seoul guy but he wasn't. Mom says that his personality is manly, even if his appearance isn't. She says he is pretty.

 

In the car:

JY is worried that they didn't like him, except for Mom. Dad especially did not like him, JY thinks. SE says, "trust me, that's my dad's happy face."

 

Young-Jae's place. She eats the soup that JY made for her.

 

JY hanging out with old detective team members. Lots of hugs. Cute. They end up at a restaurant owned by the bad guy (Gabuchi?) they were all working to catch. He's married to the woman that he loved back then. One of the guys says it took 5 years for them to finally have that team gathering.

 

The guy (who had the date with Joo-Ran) is married and talks to his wife on the phone. Hangs up and says how happy he is and how much he loves his wife. Gabuchi is a deacon at his local church. I think they all go to the same church now? Talks about his fellow criminals betraying him, but he doesn't care because his wife is his everything. JY tells them that he's getting married to Officer Min, who was the hostage when they tried to get Gabuchi. Gabuchi says that he's sorry for grabbing her back then.

 

Married officer says that he let Officer Min go back then, so JY must make her happy. The other young guy says he's the only one who is alone. They all toast to JY's wedding.

 

YJ at her apartment. She washed the Thermos. Gets dressed, puts socks on. Grocery shopping. Buys fresh food instead of just instant. She's buying ingredients for the spicy squid that JY taught her to make. Back at her home, cooking just like how JY taught her. She eats.

 

Gets a phone call. We don't know who. Turns out it's SE. They meet in a cafe.

 

YJ: Why did you want to see me?

SE: I wanted to apologize for my mistake.

YJ: It's okay.

SE: I also had some things to talk about with you. Shall we order?

YJ: Sure.

 

JY at his restaurant, setting the table.

 

Looks like SE told YJ about confessing to JY at the airport. YJ tells her that SE is braver than she looks, and that to win someone's heart, you need courage like that. YJ tells SE that she is cool.

 

SE asks YJ if she is interesting in dating anyone. YJ doesn't answer. SE offers to introduce her to someone, that he is a nice guy, suits her well... but YJ still says nothing. SE apologizes.

 

YJ says, "If it will make you feel better, please introduce him to me." (WOW)

 

YJ leaves. SE looks sad.

 

JY gets a call from SE's dad who tells him JY passed the test to become his son-in-law, and that he should marry her before the end of the year.

 

SE thinks back to her conversation with YJ, is really embarrassed that YJ saw through her so easily. JY calls to tell SE that her father gave his permission and they talk about setting the date for the family meeting soon, says goodnight.

 

Soo-Jae plays basketball by himself and thinks back to MJ and Joo-Ran. MJ talked about how prejudices against being a idol is tough for him. Joo-Ran says, "You think that everyone else is shallow and you're the only deep one. No, you're so wrapped up in your prejudices, so what do you know? You don't know how to give your heart or accept someone's heart, you cowardly bastard."

 

Joo-Ran is standing in front of her closet. Packed a big bag. Soo-Jae calls and she ignores it. He thinks about calling Young-Jae, but ends up not dialing.

 

JY closes his restaurant and SJ shows up on his motorcycle. They have a drink together and JY talks about seeing SJ's movies abroad and how happy he was to hear about SJ's success. SJ calls JY his #3 loyal vassal and wanted to buy him a drink in thanks.

 

[End of Part 1]

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Watching YJ the past couple of episodes has allowed us to see her really struggling and even weak in body, mind and soul and when thinking back it's no wonder.  Her whole life has been having to overcome one loss after another.  She lost her parents then her grandmother.  She had to endure the loss of her brothers legs and the loss of not having JY around her too. Her child which is a loss so great there are no words and a broken marriage on top of all of that.  Now when she is already on her knees with so little of herself left.  She finds out her best friend has cancer and is the one who cuts the hair of her closest friend in that chair.  Having to face time and time again the pain of losing, loss and even regret.  How much suffering can one endure when one feels as if there is nothing left...

 

She makes a call to the last person she knows she should call and yet the only person she can.... 

 

trans:  All credit to ( yurielle zai utube ) 
Ouside, Joon is still sitting and drinking his beer. But then he gets a call. It is an unknown number. He answers it and is greeted by Yong-jae’s voice.
 
YJ – Joon-young, it is Young-jae….I wanted to call someone. But I had no one to call. He lets out a deep breath as he listens.
 
YJ – ….*breathing*…all the people I love….are all sick….are all leaving me.
 
JY – Young-jae, we shouldn’t…
 
YJ – I know….I know, I know….I am also leaving….I am leaving….*glasses crash* …..(Miss! Miss! Is she injured? Miss!)….
 
JY – Young-jae!
 
When it rains it pours and my heart is showered at the moment in tears...:bawling:

 

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[Part 2]

 

JY asks if anything is going on with SJ. SJ says no, just wanted to drink with you.

 

SJ asks if anything is going on with JY? He says that he will marry soon. SJ says that it's about time, and congratulations.

 

SJ talks (at length) about how unlikely fated connections are, and that he prays for SJ's happiness.

 

SJ is paying for their drinks and food and holds out his credit card. The shop person says their machine is broken. JY pays in cash. SJ protests, but JY is happy to pay. Also pays for SJ to get a ride home from a proxy driver. SJ says: "Instead of sorry, I will say thanks." JY smiles watching him go.

 

Ohn parents making their invitation list for the wedding. They complain that JY works alone and doesn't even have co-workers to invite. Then they grumble about Ri-Won not marrying.

 

Ri-Won is dressed and says she has to go out of town for work. Sang-Hyun is disappointed because they were going to go outlet shopping. RW says she's going on the trip with Deputy Uhm (that guy who hit on her at the bar). Then she asks if SH is perturbed. He says yes. She matter-of-factly tells him that if she plans to break up with him, she will definitely discuss it with him first, so there probably won't be discord. So he shouldn't be bothered. Gives him a peck on the mouth before leaving. SH looks... not happy.

 

Officer Go is dressed up to go out on a blind date that SE set him up with.

 

JY cooking at his restaurant. SE and her fellow female officer come in.

 

Young-Jae shows up for her blind date with Officer Go. She's polite.

 

Female officer loves JY's food. Gets call from Officer Go. His date with YJ ended very fast. YJ excused herself and left early, but paid for their meal.

 

Female officer mentions that the blind date was a divorcee, so JY is quietly shocked to find out that SE is the one who set up a blind date with Officer Go and Young-Jae.

 

Female officer leaves.

 

JY looks angry. SE tells him that the food was really good and helps him clean up. JY angrily tells her to stay seated and he will clean up himself.

 

YJ comes to see Joo-Ran at her empty, dark salon. Says, "I felt bad for him, but I just couldn't do it. (blind date) Why are all the lights off?"

 

SE and JY sitting in traffic, in the car together. SE says female officer enjoyed the meal a lot.

 

JY: Why did you set up a blind date for Young-Jae? Just what are you thinking? (angry)

SE: What about you, Oppa? Why didn't you tell me that you dated Young-Jae? Do you know that this is the first time in 4 years that you got mad at me? And the reason is because of Young-Jae?

JY: I'm sorry that I made you concerned. It won't happen again. I will get off here. Traffic looks bad, you should turn around and go another way, drive safely. (gets out of car)

 

Back at salon.

 

Joo-Ran: Do you remember that? We went on a trip to Hong Kong and said that this would look good in our shop? (an antique radio) They both reminisce about how hard they worked to bring that back to Korea.

 

JR talks about her shop and how so much laughter and crying happened here, and how this shop was her husband and child. Then tells YJ that (employee) Noori will take over for a while.

 

YJ asks JR what is going on? JR tells her that she has cancer.

 

Hospital flashback. Dr. tells her that it's stage 3 cancer, surgery is not possible now, but she will get chemo to shrink tumor. Surgery will remove her uterus and pelvic lymph nodes. Her 5-year prognosis is not high. Even if JR is cured, pregnancy will be impossible.

 

JR tells her that she is very angry and scared. Talks about seeing that patient in the bathroom at the hospital and says she thought first about Lee Soo-Jae, and how he must have suffered when he lost his legs, and feels regret about acting like she knew everything when she tried to comfort him, and how he smiled for her anyway.

 

JR requests YJ to cut her hair, because she doesn't want to show anyone or tell anyone.

 

YJ cuts her hair short.

 

YJ tucks JR into bed and leaves. Walks home. Remembers what So-Ri said about how she wanted to eat a lot of rice and become the bright moon. YJ asked why, and So-Ri said she wanted to become the moon because the moon is everywhere. YJ breaks down crying.

 

JY grabs a beer at a 7-eleven and sits outside drinking it.

 

SE parks her car. Finds JY's agenda, where he neatly recorded all his activities. There is a lot with her, like when and what she ate with him, etc. She's happy to see that.

 

JY gets a call from an unknown number. It's Young-Jae. She says, "I wanted to call someone, but I have no one to call." He says nothing.

 

YJ - Everyone I love are all sick, and they are all leaving me.

JY - Young-Jae, we shouldn't (contact each other...)

YJ - I know, I'm going. I'm going...

 

You hear noise, and you hear other people in the background. It sounds like she collapsed?

 

JY frantically calls YJ's name.

 

[End]

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Whatever others might feel and I still love JY most. I do like Ho Chul and can feel his genuine love for YJ and their daughter. He is also suffering a bad fate at the hands of the writers. I would have liked to see their backstory, especially how he finally won YJ's heart. Third charm is really not charming at all. Feels like they spent it all on the first and second charm part. 

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Hello. Exccuse me my ignorance, because I have not watched several episodes yet, but JY doesn't know about the death of YJ's daughter? He doesn't know why YJ has that deep sadness? Thanks.

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17 hours ago, angelwingssf said:

 

 

I hope I did not come across as crass by saying that he did not do anything for her.  He did and this is something no one knows how to take care of.  He lost his child too, and he needs to grieve.  It would have been better if they grieved together.  But they could not - because the connection between them was Sori.  They should have stayed together and after a while they could have divorced.  But that might not be possible for some of them.  The presence of that other person also brings about pain and suffering.  It is something one cannot have a cookie cutter recipe for it.  Every individual case is different.  We can certainly say that YJ is going through depression, seeing her child killed that way (even though they did not show it) and every time she probably closes her eyes, she can see it like a movie that keeps playing without a pause button.  Only time heals such disasters in life.  

I agree. They couldn't grieve together, though,  not because Sori was their only connection,  but because YJ was so deep inside her pain that she didn't see his. He was there for her,  holding his own back so he could support her, but she wasn't there for him.  There's no question that she's, understandably,  in deep depression, but it's in the same pattern of her previous behavior, where she closes off those who love her, and she sees only her own feelings, but not theirs,  or theirs aren't as important as her own. She doesn't intentionally only take but doesn't give. It just that it doesn't cross her mind to be there for others, except for her brother. She's so deeply inside her own pain that her best friend being diagnosed with cancer becomes her own additional pain,  instead of her friend's. This is her chance to be there for a loyal, best friend who has always been there for her and who really now needs her.  Instead, she is thinking of committing suicide. Her real growth will come if/ when she learns to feel empathy for others. Starting to empathize will also pull her out of her depression and work through her grief. 

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28 minutes ago, kdramasage said:

Whatever others might feel and I still love JY most. I do like Ho Chul and can feel his genuine love for YJ and their daughter. He is also suffering a bad fate at the hands of the writers. I would have liked to see their backstory, especially how he finally won YJ's heart. Third charm is really not charming at all. Feels like they spent it all on the first and second charm part. 

 

28 minutes ago, kdramasage said:

Whatever others might feel and I still love JY most. I do like Ho Chul and can feel his genuine love for YJ and their daughter. He is also suffering a bad fate at the hands of the writers. I would have liked to see their backstory, especially how he finally won YJ's heart. Third charm is really not charming at all. Feels like they spent it all on the first and second charm part. 

***"He is also suffering a bad fate at the hands of the writers." ***

Seriously the BEST, truest comment in the entire discussion of this drama!!! :D Thank you!!!!

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16 hours ago, blackberrypie said:

Thought i'll drop a last note. I truly loved all the OSTs in this drama. Have them on replay mode in my playlist too. But, i really hate how the drama is going, in these final few eps. Guess im going to drop this drama from ep 13 onwards. I think Esom is a good actress, unfortunately YJ as a character hit all the wrong notes for me. I understand losing a child is painful, but i dont think getting ur ex-bf to heal the pain is right. It feels kinda selfish. Sorry not sorry, i just cant like YJ or support her totally. JY is a nice guy. But sorry, i also cant like how he's a pushover for YJ. The story/characters doesnt make sense to me, so i cant continue watching, or i'll end up super frustrated. I dont blame any of the actors though.. and i think they all acted their part really well. I put 100% blame on the writer. The story and characters are just too messed up for me to root for any of them and its all just a big disappointing drama. Loved the OSTs though. To all, have fun til the end! Not long to go now.. 

Actually,  even the OST failed to be complete. How do you have a super popular musical actor of Min Woo-Hyuk's caliber, both in popularity and singing ability, in a significant role in the drama and not have him sing any songs on the OST?  Especially weird since he's so famous for his amazing story-telling ability through his singing. Yet, not even one song by him?!  

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32 minutes ago, tali58 said:

 

***"He is also suffering a bad fate at the hands of the writers." ***

Seriously the BEST, truest comment in the entire discussion of this drama!!! :D Thank you!!!!

Another wonderful drama badly messed up.

I so much loved the beginning of this drama until the writer started playing with our intelligence.

Sometimes when you want to write something on the drama, u wouldn't know where to start.

 

Why do they always do this?

Can't a drama start and end well.

Because it's called the third charm and all about the main leads, the second leads are naturally crucified in order for the main leads to be happy and find fulfilment. If the 2nd leads are bad a bit, we will have reason to bash them. 

 

I enjoyed the first half so much. Will stop watching as it's not making sense to me anymore.

 

That a couple separates because they lost a child is the greatest joke of the century.

Rather than separation, it brings them together.

What happens to conceiving again?

Especially as they are young couples, one of the fastest way to heal is conceive again. But because there is no love, they fall apart like park of cards. Both couldn't console each other.

 

Their marriage was marriage by convenience. 

 

Now, the ex boyfriend want to move on, she is back again.  As what exactly, writer?

Yeah, some successful marriages didn't start with the two being so in love, sometimes like and spark can carry a marriage. The 2nd party can fall in love later.

We should ask our parents and will be shocked how most of them started. So I assume that he will fall in love properly as time goes on. But now, the writer has brought back his ex, made him and the girlfriend argue( something that has never happened before) so we can start seeing the girl differently.  What a weak way to develop a story.

Why give this gap when the guy will still continue to be a fool before her?

The same old story. Wonder what the charm is really.

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I endure the passing of the long week just to await new episodes of the third charm. But for the third week running, the drama has left me drained, depressed, disappointed and wanting to tear my hair out of sheer frustration at how badly the writers have messed up a gem of the drama they had. Why so much misfortune in a rom com?? To say it mirrors the realities of life is also a joke. I have not come across another person who had encountered the same seemingly never ending string of mishaps and bad fortune that has befallen YJ and her family, and now JR too. We are only left with two more episodes. How can the writers reconcile and salvage it now??  Is it bad if I just want a happily ever after kdrama ending for our OTP?? And the other characters too?  제발 

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1 hour ago, kdramasage said:

@0ly40 JY doesn't know about YJ's backstory (daughter + her death). Only that she is divorced from Ho Chul. 

Thanks @kdramasage for the aclaration. When he knows about it, maybe he will want to be with her. I hope they come back later. But I don't know what will happen to the end. :cold_sweat:

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3 hours ago, chickfactor said:

[Part 2]

 

She's happy to see that.

 

JY gets a call from an unknown number. It's Young-Jae. She says, "I wanted to call someone, but I have no one to call." He says nothing.

 

YJ - Everyone I love are all sick, and they are all leaving me.

JY - Young-Jae, we shouldn't (contact each other...)

YJ - I know, I'm going. I'm going...

 

You hear noise, and you hear other people in the background. It sounds like she collapsed?

 

JY frantically calls YJ's name.

 

[End]

 

Wow thanks so much for your recap Chickfactor! The story is really going all kind of directions now...Very confusing and I think it will be very frustrating to watch this episode, writers are killing me with these developments...So SE turns out not to be that sweet and passive innocent in love kinda girl (sorry have always disliked her character from the beginning), she has her sneaky ways too. In stead of just asking JY and have him reassure her, she does things behind his back. Writers, is this your way to prepare us to feel less sorry for her when JY leaves her? Don't worry, I for one would not have felt that for her since it is very clear that JY is with her out of comfort in stead of love and in the end there would be two unhappy people settling together and both wearing a mask. Yes I definately prefer the passionate JY way more.

And how more miserable do the writers want YJ to be(come)? Sigh, not only they are dumping world's drama on her plate and now also make her weak in her actions? She choosing to be in pain is one thing, up till now she stayed true to herself and didn't do anything to sway JY since he moved on. But now the writers have her calling him in despair? *smh*

After watching JY trying hard to contain himself from bursting out in anger with YJ in ep 13, it is clear he is totally not over her. If he was he would not get all worked up, this was way more than just caring for a friend. And his reaction after hearing that YJ was divorced was to flee to Lisbon lol, is he afraid he would behave unethically because of YJ? And the hilarious scene where SH complained to him about a so called 5 yrs ago fling between his GF and her coworker, while in fact he was describing the situation between JY and YJ spot on (and even JY recognizes himself in it I think lol). Though the end of ep 13 made me sad, cos they were in fact saying goodbye to eachother. Hope JY finally wakes up in next episode and stops the wedding planning. Or will the writers make us suffer more till the last 10 min of the show?

 

It will be very hard for me not to drop this drama out of frustration. O question remains what did JY exactly find that YJ had lost and she would try her best not to lose it again? Any hint?

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