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19 minutes ago, deltos said:

I'm hoping they can pull off the consummation in about 10 minutes.

I would agree with that. First time consummations are always quick. It takes experience to make it last for hours, but enough said on that subject. ;)

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I'm okay with the pacing, but I'd appreciate more scenes of the other couples too. How many almost kisses do we need?

 

Apparently, people are complaining the TinCan kiss looked sloppy. LOL he grabbed him unexpectantly. isn't that more realistic? 

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On 9/29/2018 at 2:27 PM, deltos said:

Unfortunately, it's the trope of BL. You hang around the genre long enough you begin to realize it's the template for writing BL novels and it doesn't change. The minds of the BL writers is at time questionable...( like how did you even think this was right ) ...I will say this, a gay man would most likely never write a "R" scene into a BL novel. Sadly though, fans look forward to that kinda thing...:crazy: And true enough, the novels are worse than the dramas...so yeah I hope they re-construct the kk/tech scene into something that is consensual. 

Oh man, going to look at the source material for some of the Chinese BLs especially was depressing.


The thing about the Thai BLs with questionable stuff, is that it's often not the same "rape" as presented in those Chinese novels, as in, full-on, violent, ick.  It is still written for those turned on by having someone else take total control, but they do things to let you know that the "uke" is just "shy" or whatever, but really in to it.  The thing is, if they don't express their willingness in an overt way, to their love interest, it still gives me the heebie jeebies.  Wish they would stop it. 

 

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Like, Book seemed to have had a crush on Frame before, and he was looking for sex that night.  But he was physically rebuffing and saying no to Frame as the camera cut away.  Gross.   

 

It has more to do with the uke/tsundere convention, I think, than rape, in the minds of some of the authors.  Like, it's "cute" for them to say "no, no, no"!  It seemed like Pete was being a little "tsundere" in the last scene of the most recent ep. (I have no idea what I'm talking about, just discovered all of this this year, have not read any mangas except two after watching the live actions of them, but anyway). 

 

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The two I read were Pornographer and Hidamari ga Kikoeru/I Hear the Sunspot.  I really liked both of those, live action version wise.  And the mangas were fine/very similar to the live action.  I think manga isn't my medium, but enjoying learning about the existence of all this stuff I didn't know existed. 

 

He just said he had needs in the bathroom.  Why is he acting like that?  Because the audience wants Ae to have to "force" him?  But wait, we all know that Pete wants it, so. . . . I can't relate to that in my real life at all, so it makes it awkward.  Do you want to do it, or no?  State what you want! 

 

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On 9/29/2018 at 5:06 PM, 1sitsafetocomeout said:

Honestly... I've seen weirder things happen in real life. In terms of the novel... have no clue. The series is known to change things so this could be a changed scene. The kiss didn't feel like it came out of nowhere to me. I can see the progression.

 

Tin kissing Can is a result of a corruption of his feelings and thoughts. He might have preferred it was Pete but here is the only other person that affects his life in anyway. Can is the only other person that is close to Tin right now even if it is in an antagonistic way (which in itself is very sad).

Can and Tin have been building to some sort of emotional climax from the start. Yet despite Can's physical response (the punch), Tin has never responded to Can physically but emotionally (his conversation with his mirror). This shows that Can has managed to breech Tin's walls (thought I truly think he is not aware of this as yet). 

So when faced with Can's verbal assault on a sore spot in his life, Tin retaliated as he always has. Sure a kiss is physical, but in this case it is about what that kiss represents emotionally. 

Tin is just another type of casanova, the cool/cold one. He doesn't need his fists when his words have power. Look at Ae, decimated by him in just a couple of sentences. He really hits you where it hurt the most. This would hurt Can because it is his first and he lost it to the person he hates the most. The kiss he has been saving for the girl he may one day love... given to the boy he hates. If that isn't revenge, I don't know what is. And it was served so cold too. All Can could do was fret... Poor baby.

As someone who has also been know to over-analyze things that don't deserve it, I found this a very insightful and interesting read. :D I like your interpretation, whether or not it's too deep for the subject matter. 

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On 9/29/2018 at 5:17 PM, deltos said:

So does this mean that we have a two-way " gay for you " trope happening ? :scream:   lol

 

It's totally a two-way GFYCan expressed interest in girls earlier, and of course Tin thinks "kissing a guy is not bad". 

 

I would say that Love Sick was supposed to be the same (Phun/Noh).  But Noh just came off as gay gay gay, not fooling anyone, gay, (to me).  I give people in real life the benefit of the doubt, but in these Thai BLs? ... Nope! Gay! Next! 

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13 minutes ago, mads102030 said:

 

It's totally a two-way GFYCan expressed interest in girls earlier, and of course Tin thinks "kissing a guy is not bad". 

 

I would say that Love Sick was supposed to be the same (Phun/Noh).  But Noh just came off as gay gay gay, not fooling anyone, gay, (to me).  I give people in real life the benefit of the doubt, but in these Thai BLs? ... Nope! Gay! Next! 

I agree! I always felt that Noh was uncomfortable being with Yuri.:D

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1 hour ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

I would agree with that. First time consummations are always quick. It takes experience to make it last for hours, but enough said on that subject. ;)

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  • Ae rims Pete in the bathtub.
  • He tries to finger him because Pete is begging for it, but it hurts a lot.
  • Ae says he's not going to hurt Pete like that and just grinds between his legs.

 

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Their first time is after that (in bed) and they go twice lol. Unrealistic expectations for virgins and for bathtub sex in my opinion.


 


 

 

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Just watched a bts of the room scene at Ae's house and it's so cute the way the actress playing N'yin is giggling in the background as Perth tries to swallow the ice chip and then tries to kiss Saint...:joy:

 

 

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17 minutes ago, winetart said:

Apparently:

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  • Ae rims Pete in the bathtub.
  • He tries to finger him because Pete is begging for it, but it hurts a lot.
  • Ae says he's not going to hurt Pete like that and just grinds between his legs.

 

jZtOL18.png

 

Their first time is after that (in bed) and they go twice lol. Unrealistic expectations for virgins and for bathtub sex in my opinion.


 


 

 

I think Ae has been watching some instructional videos. :joy:

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1 hour ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

I would agree with that. First time consummations are always quick. It takes experience to make it last for hours, but enough said on that subject. ;)

you brought it up ! hours? :phew:

42 minutes ago, checkmatey said:

I'm okay with the pacing, but I'd appreciate more scenes of the other couples too. How many almost kisses do we need?

 

Apparently, people are complaining the TinCan kiss looked sloppy. LOL he grabbed him unexpectantly. isn't that more realistic? 

That's what I mean with pacing...if we move a bit faster, there is time for other cpls..there were at least 2-3 minutes of almost kisses/staring into the eyes.  In film 2-3 minutes is a lot of time. Necktie grabs are always messy..it is what it is...if you don't wear one and have never been grabbed like that  ( which can be sexy as hell - like in WTD..that scene set my computer on fire)  it looked like it looked.:D

 

48 minutes ago, mads102030 said:

Oh man, going to look at the source material for some of the Chinese BLs especially was depressing.


The thing about the Thai BLs with questionable stuff, is that it's often not the same "rape" as presented in those Chinese novels, as in, full-on, violent, ick.  It is still written for those turned on by having someone else take total control, but they do things to let you know that the "uke" is just "shy" or whatever, but really in to it.  The thing is, if they don't express their willingness in an overt way, to their love interest, it still gives me the heebie jeebies.  Wish they would stop it. 

 

Little MIR riff

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Like, Book seemed to have had a crush on Frame before, and he was looking for sex that night.  But he was physically rebuffing and saying no to Frame as the camera cut away.  Gross.   

 

It has more to do with the uke/tsundere convention, I think, than rape, in the minds of some of the authors.  Like, it's "cute" for them to say "no, no, no"!  It seemed like Pete was being a little "tsundere" in the last scene of the most recent ep. (I have no idea what I'm talking about, just discovered all of this this year, have not read any mangas except two after watching the live actions of them, but anyway). 

 

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The two I read were Pornographer and Hidamari ga Kikoeru/I Hear the Sunspot.  I really liked both of those, live action version wise.  And the mangas were fine/very similar to the live action.  I think manga isn't my medium, but enjoying learning about the existence of all this stuff I didn't know existed. 

 

He just said he had needs in the bathroom.  Why is he acting like that?  Because the audience wants Ae to have to "force" him?  But wait, we all know that Pete wants it, so. . . . I can't relate to that in my real life at all, so it makes it awkward.  Do you want to do it, or no?  State what you want! 

 

Yeah the Chinese BL's tend to go all in...very angsty...repressive...The novels..are well what you don't see on screen.  Like in Addicted, one character ws hospitalize because NO wasn't respected.  But hey, he forgave him and they got back to together and it was all good. 2M had one too of the drunken order...much like Techno/KK if that's the way it's gonna be played.

 

Manga reader here...No Pete wasn't tsundere - he was being <shudder> coy. The whole wrap in the blanket thing and yes I thought why you acting like a wife on the wedding nite ? He shut down Ae..Ae said fine and turned over. It was clear to Pete that he blew it so...he went the cuddle route  which usually works. Ae just kept on sleeping or what ever..lol  Tsundere looks like Kit from 2M..classic ! 

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It's totally a two-way GFYCan expressed interest in girls earlier, and of course Tin thinks "kissing a guy is not bad". 

 

I would say that Love Sick was supposed to be the same (Phun/Noh).  But Noh just came off as gay gay gay, not fooling anyone, gay, (to me).  I give people in real life the benefit of the doubt, but in these Thai BLs? ... Nope! Gay! Next! 

 

Arrrrgh...gay- for- you is quite a leap in itself (and demonstrates just how much these authors don't know about men-there I said it) but the I was str8 then you came along and now I'm into a same-sex relationships..but only with you is mindboggling too say the least. Actually Noh was gay- for - you that was part of his struggle - the attraction. Phun was Bi...he had been attracted to Noh for a while..( the novel) so in my mind not quite the same as TinCan.  

Tin is the kinda guy to kiss another guy to make a point ( which he did) and think nothing about it...that's the way he rolls, he does what he wants and doesn't really care one way or the other what other people think.  I think Can is going make him take responsibility for his actions...that will be a new role for Tin and eventually he will crumble and be gay for Can.  :lol:

And my apologies to anyone reading on a phone...replies like this turn into like the longest text stream evah...

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On 9/29/2018 at 5:57 PM, 1sitsafetocomeout said:

- I have to avoid anything sweet this week, my sugar levels are currently off the charts. The looks - jeez these boys can smize as Tyra Banks coined it. Their eyes were saying a lot in this episode. Ae wants to eat Pete and Pete is hoping he will. Ae really is going through a period of uncontrolled lust and he knows it but he can't help it. Pete is much more controlled but Pete also has some experience with liking someone and may have had secret little crushes even before Trump (this name still gets me every time) so his control is a little better. And Pete is also good at holding thing in unlike Ae. I also think this lack of experience is what makes it so easy for Ae to expose himself to Pete because he's still thinking 'we're both guys so it's no big deal' while Pete gets all revved up. I love the shock then the rush to the bathroom. 

Pond's serious face when he's talking to ChaAim so just too smexy. This guy means business and he looks at her with such intensity. Her response was faster than I expected but I'm not surprised that she said yes. Though if they make it far she has her work cut out training him to clean up after himself.

Tin's Mean look (I couldn't help it! Forgive me) after he kissed Can  and liked it gave me shivers. He stole so much power over Can in that moment but it's only temporary Tin... He's going to claim it back and Tin will be his sucker soon.

 

- Oh wait I found a critique but only a little one. Sometimes Pond overreacts to Ae's questions. If he just responded lightly, he would get so much more out of Ae. Still, he's doing a great job as is.

 

- They met each other's parents!!! Lol I love it! Ae's mom was very impressed with Pete and I liked that she didn't hesitate to put him to work. I see that Ae has mentioned Pete but not to the level Pete has mentioned Ae. I am not surprised. Despite loving his family. Ae keeps his own council. I am also not surprised that Ae hasn't told his parents yet. I think it is too soon and I would prefer that they spend time with Pete before he tells them. Like softening them up kind of. I don't know but they make me nervous although they could be just as cool as Ae was when finding out Pete was gay.

 

The hot eyes over the lunch table was hilarious and when Ae dropped his spoon, I just died laughing. Serves him right for undressing Pete with his eyes in front of his mom. Not that Pete minded. He was doing some undressing of his own. 

Also the shrimp references. Ae admitting he wanted to undress Pete. Frustrated Ae... All of it... I feel faint. I think I'm heading for a diabetic coma. I need to rewatch TWM and balance it all out... Later

 

Yours was my favorite reaction this week.  Lots of fun stuff!

 

Oh god, now I'm going to be accusing the guys of "smizing" in my head when they're being adorable at each other.

 

" Ae wants to eat Pete and Pete is hoping he will. Ae really is going through a period of uncontrolled lust and he knows it but he can't help it."  Hahaha, so well put. 

 

"I also think this lack of experience is what makes it so easy for Ae to expose himself to Pete because he's still thinking 'we're both guys so it's no big deal' while Pete gets all revved up. I love the shock then the rush to the bathroom."  Ah, ok, actually, this sort of explains that scene to me better.  Not that I was confused about why Pete rushed to the bathroom, but Pete said something kind of accusatory at Ae, about playing with his heart, before the "I have needs, too" comment, and I didn't quite get what he was referring to.  I mean, Ae was actively trying to jump him all episode.  I guess Pete was specifically referring to how Ae keeps walking around shirtless in front of him without thinking anything of it.  Ae still doesn't get that he's turning Pete on as much as Pete is turning him on, in those rare moments when he's not actually trying to turn Pete on... Haha, gotcha. 

 

"Oh wait I found a critique but only a little one. Sometimes Pond overreacts to Ae's questions. If he just responded lightly, he would get so much more out of Ae. Still, he's doing a great job as is."  This has been driving me crazy!  I so want them to have a serious talk.  I think it would be amazing.  And we know Pond can be serious and give good advice. . . because he has done it. . . for Pete!  But every time Ae buckles and finally decides to try to get advice from Pond, Pond goes overboard and Ae runs away.  This episode was the worst example, but Pond does it EVERY time.  "Oh, did Pete confess to you?"  "Oh, you're going to have sex with Pete?"  Also, his worst advice to date, "Get him drunk".  Though an improvement over his idea to drug them both and lock them in a room together, I guess. . .?  Their best talk was when he found Ae's search history and assured him that he was his friend no matter what, then said he would buy lube for him if he was too shy, while running out the door

 

Hope Ae's family turns out cool with it, when they finally get it figured out!

 

I LOVE Pete's mom.  And Ae and Pete's stares at each other, along with Ae losing control of his silverware, was a definite highlight.  Haha, calm down a bit in front of Mom, boys!  They really need to work off some of that sexual tension before they have any more mutual meetings with their families. :D

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

I think Ae has been watching some instructional videos. :joy:

Of course cause # 1 isn't in the intro....Pond prolly helped with instructional aids:lol:

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3 minutes ago, mads102030 said:

"I also think this lack of experience is what makes it so easy for Ae to expose himself to Pete because he's still thinking 'we're both guys so it's no big deal' while Pete gets all revved up.

Yep pretty much...Pete's been scanning Ae  since the beginning...LOL. It 's actually funny - I've said in my head...dude ! do something stop looking...it gets better. But he doesn't so...we wait  :rolleyes:

 

29 minutes ago, winetart said:

Apparently:

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  • Ae rims Pete in the bathtub.
  • He tries to finger him because Pete is begging for it, but it hurts a lot.
  • Ae says he's not going to hurt Pete like that and just grinds between his legs.

 

jZtOL18.png

 

Their first time is after that (in bed) and they go twice lol. Unrealistic expectations for virgins and for bathtub sex in my opinion.


 


 

 

See now...you gonna have folks running to the dictionary...reading then getting ded.:joy:

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9 minutes ago, deltos said:

you brought it up ! hours? :phew:

:tounge_xd: It's called stamina!!! And, no i'm not going to draw you a diagram!! Use your imagination. :joy:

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2 minutes ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

:tounge_xd: It's called stamina!!! And, no i'm not going to draw you a diagram!! Use your imagination. :joy:

Oh not necessary...I've the the instructional aid up there to lead me to Nirvana:yum:

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26 minutes ago, deltos said:

Manga reader here...No Pete wasn't tsundere - he was being <shudder> coy. The whole wrap in the blanket thing and yes I thought why you acting like a wife on the wedding nite ? He shut down Ae..Ae said fine and turned over. It was clear to Pete that he blew it so...he went the cuddle route  which usually works. Ae just kept on sleeping or what ever..lol  Tsundere looks like Kit from 2M..classic ! 

 

Arrrrgh...gay- for- you is quite a leap in itself (and demonstrates just how much these authors don't know about men-there I said it) but the I was str8 then you came along and now I'm into a same-sex relationships..but only with you is mindboggling too say the least. Actually Noh was gay- for - you that was part of his struggle - the attraction. Phun was Bi...he had been attracted to Noh for a while..( the novel) so in my mind not quite the same as TinCan.  

 

Tin is the kinda guy to kiss another guy to make a point ( which he did) and think nothing about it...that's the way he rolls, he does what he wants and doesn't really care one way or the other what other people think.  I think Can is going make him take responsibility for his actions...that will be a new role for Tin and eventually he will crumble and be gay for Can.  :lol:

Ok, first, I completely agree with you that Phun is 100% bi (novel and show, totally comes across as bi, and obviously attracted to Noh for a while (novel)/from the first episode, and believable with Aim, as well).  So you're right that it's not a two-way GFY, but it is a two-way "first gay relationship and also I'm cool with girls".  And I know that (novel) Noh is supposed to be GFY, or bi, or whatever he is.  But damn if he doesn't come across as GAY on the show.  He starts "dating" Yuri so other girls will stop hitting on him? He doesn't once consider that maybe he could really date Yuri?  He and Yuri have a great rapport.  Why wouldn't he date her, if he really leans towards women?  (PS Huge Yuri fan here.)  He only once mentions a girl who he thinks is attractive that I can think of (some waitress at a restaurant, when he's already head over heels).  His whole, "Phun, I'm not gay, so I can't believe you would think I would consider Earn" speech just falls flat (not the Earn part, but the "I'm not gay" part).  Well, until he says, "The only guy I like is you", then it's all "unicorns and rainbows", as lazy subber would say, and cavities.    But I don't believe his (live-action) a** for a second.  Gay gay gay.  Also, gay. 

 

Haha, thanks for the tsundere explanation, though I still don't fully understand.  But I myself described Pete in that scene as "coy" in an earlier post, so we agree on that.  Was Arthrit, especially Sotus S Arthrit, "tsundere".  I've seen many people describe him that way.  I actually didn't find Kit that hard to win over, compared to how annoying Sotus S Arthrit was (in the skinship department).  PS I liked Sotus S, like, the plot  But definitely one of those who thought their relationship looked silly, acting so "coy" after two years together.  ($hit, still don't know the difference.  May do a bit of research.)

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1 hour ago, deltos said:

Pete's been scanning Ae  since the beginning...LOL. It 's actually funny - I've said in my head...dude ! do something stop looking...it gets better. But he doesn't so...we wait  :rolleyes:

 

Hahaha, so true.  Ae's just been stripping in front of Pete from the get-go.  Poor Pete and his fully-formed understanding of his own sexual orientation coupled with a clueless "who knows what" (so many theories stated on here, gay, bi, pan, demi. . . ) blossoming horn-ball.

 

It gets better, Pete!  Hopefully in episode 9. ;)

 

But, by the way, a combination of aloneww and LBC International's tweets have led me to think that they STILL won't have sex in episode 9.  Specifically, the one that was already shared on here about "following the novel" in terms of pacing, and this one: 

 

"But not in the next one"?  Hmmm. 

 

But like how he's predicting our deaths.  His teasing about the locker room scene didn't disappoint, so. . .

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6 minutes ago, mads102030 said:

Hahaha, so true.  Ae's just been stripping in front of Pete from the get-go.  Poor Pete and his fully-formed understanding of his own sexual orientation coupled with a clueless "who knows what" (so many theories stated on here, gay, bi, pan, demi. . . ) blossoming horn-ball.

 

It gets better, Pete!  Hopefully in episode 9. ;)

 

But, by the way, a combination of aloneww and LBC International's tweets have led me to think that they STILL won't have sex in episode 9.  Specifically, the one that was already shared on here about "following the novel" in terms of pacing, and this one: 

 

"But not in the next one"?  Hmmm. 

 

But like how he's predicting our deaths.  His teasing about the locker room scene didn't disappoint, so. . .

The king of tease 

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6 hours ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

I'm with you there.

 

My gaydar doesn't even twitch with them. 

 

With Mew and Art it was vibrating like an earthquake. :D

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After seeing their first sex scene, I was already kind of wondering if everyone in the scene was straight.:naughty:  Very well done scene.  But I saw some random comment about Mew having a girlfriend and just rolled with it,  telling myself to quit projecting on to actors who are just good at their jobs.

 

Still, they ARE good at their jobs.  Hope they get along with no problems through all of the filming of WTD2.  I am one of those who wants PreeBo to find their way bad to each other, not one of those "they're two toxic" types. . . Perhaps they are, I don't even know, but the chemistry is too good! So you two boys treat each other well and get along so you can still act together next year!

 

 

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50 minutes ago, mads102030 said:

Why wouldn't he date her, if he really leans towards women?  (PS Huge Yuri fan here.)

Not.

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She got on my last nerve...she knew Noh saw her as just a friend and told her as much..but she kept holding on to hope instead of moving on...like Gurl he don't want you...and it wasn't until her CTJ moment at the music room that she realized he was Nevah gonna want her..unless she became he ! It would have been a lot more interesting if Yuri was a guy...lol Kinda like the look on

 

55 minutes ago, mads102030 said:

Was Arthrit, especially Sotus S Arthrit, "tsundere

Yes. Mean might have tendencies...Oat in WTD, even Knock a bit

 

28 minutes ago, mads102030 said:

Poor Pete and his fully-formed understanding of his own sexual orientation coupled with a clueless "who knows what" (

All Pete has to do is take the escalator down to the main floor...he'll know what to do.:phew:

 

35 minutes ago, mads102030 said:

But, by the way, a combination of aloneww and LBC International's tweets have led me to think that they STILL won't have sex in episode 9.

Then I'd suggest you get a copy of War and Peace and start reading...its going to be a long bumpy ride.  :joy:

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