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@nateko Thank you for the summary!

I need to watch ep 6 to suggest answers!

But about the pace: s3 has been confirmed so maybe the writer had developed the story as one long season of 24 episodes with a pause in the middle rather than treating each own separately?   

 

Preview for ep7!

 

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Additional details from ep.6:

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Na Hong Soo didn't like KW even before the murder of his brother. He and KW's partner weren't real brothers or something (didn't quite understand what exactly they meant by that). Regardless, NHS as somewhat cleared of suspicion because the killer toyed around with him too, they definitely aren't accomplices. 

 

KJ is definitely the next target, not our hacker boy. The killer almost gave out orders to his minions about KJ but luckily his neighbour distracted him. At the end of the episode, KJ received pictures from the killer. KW is seen in all of them and it's from the day of his partner's murder. Then the killer sent her a text, which reads "It was a murder committed together with DKW. Of course, he doesn't remember but tell him it's no use. I took a picture that day." (lousy translation, but bear with me). I wonder why KW collapsed in the preview. Maybe he saw a scene or picture that reminded him of what truly happened that day? 

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1 hour ago, nateko said:
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KJ is definitely the next target, not our hacker boy. The killer almost gave out orders to his minions about KJ but luckily his neighbour distracted him. At the end of the episode, KJ received pictures from the killer.

 

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I wonder why he changed his plans to kill her and send her pics instead?

Maybe to play with her mind and made her distrust Kang Woo?

What makes him feel that she will believe him? He could have taken advantage of Kang Woo's blackout to put a weapon in his hand and take a pic...

 

 

The killer  seemed to have a strange interest for Kang Woo: at one point (in a previous episode) he said that he offered him a chance to get away but Kang Woo chose to crawl back in the den of lions. Why give him a chance to survive? And why did he target his partner? 

 

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36 minutes ago, titania1000 said:
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I wonder why he changed his plans to kill her and send her pics instead?

Maybe to play with her mind and made her distrust Kang Woo?

What makes him feelthat she will believe him? He could have take advantage to one of Kang Woo's blackout to put a weapon in his hand and take a pic...

 

 

The killer  seemed to have a strange interest for Kang Woo: at one point he said that he offered him a chance to get away but Kang Woo chose to crawl back in the den of lions. Why give him a chance to survive? And why did he target his partner? 

 

 

Indeed the killer seemed to somewhat favour KW back then at the boat. He seemed to enjoy KW's anger. Maybe he found him to be similar in nature. KW was pretty open about his own hatred for criminals and that he had a hard time not harming them. That's something that we've also seen in episode 5 with Big Boss. So maybe the killer thought that KW was somewhat like him and that's why he was more lenient before KW dared to defy him. I also wondered how the partner ended up in that mess in the first place. Still have no idea though. Maybe he got money from the wrong person and the killer decided to get rid of him because he was a dirty cop, or maybe they were investigating something that eventually led them to the killer. I'm very curious about what happened back then. 

 

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I missed some parts of the episode because my stream was bad, but I think the killer hacked some of the computers at the police station and heard the conversations of GTT and KJ's specifically. It seems to me that he doesn't quite like the fact that KW is settling with the team. I think he wants to plant seeds of doubt into everyone's minds about KW and his involvement in the murder. I also thought that with KW's blackouts it would be very easy for the killer to manipulate the truth about that incident. Heck even KW himself might believe that he's the one who murdered his partner if played right. 

 
 

 

I must say that even though I enjoyed Mo Tae Gu as the serial killer in the first season, the psycho killer from this season is scarier on many fronts  (props to Kwon Yul).
First, he's a delusional but highly functional psycho. While he keeps the delusion about his mother being alive, he still acknowledges the fact that she's dead, because he keeps the door to her room locked. 
He has an abnormal obsession with human body parts. While Tae Gu collected the hair of his victims as trophies, this one has a crazy fetish. Just look at the pictures of body parts that are plastered on the walls of his basement.
The scene where he met KJ was so disturbing to watch. He analyzed her face - eyes, nose lips and finally settled for her ears. So he basically went out of his way to meet her and decided what parts of her he wanted to collect.
What's the scariest part is the fact that the GTT isn't just dealing with this psycho but with a whole network of like-minded messed up scum that the killer collected. It's scary because it reminds me of real life so much it's horrifying.
I'm familiar with these sick communities as I've once worked with a team that tracked such communities and tried to get rid of them, but man does this ring true. 
The realization that your dealing with so many people and not just one criminal is difficult to swallow because they aren't connected with each other in the real world so it's difficult to track them all individually and the only thing they have in common is their messed up nature. 
That's why I find that the GTT is in more danger than in the first season. They have no idea when and who will strike them while they are tracking the mastermind. 

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46 minutes ago, nateko said:
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I missed some parts of the episode because my stream was bad, but I think the killer hacked some of the computers at the police station and heard the conversations of GTT and KJ's specifically. It seems to me that he doesn't quite like the fact that KW is settling with the team.

 

 

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One reason could be:  he intended to have Kang Woo do the job  to take Kwon Joo's ears, which could be problematic if he finds himself too close to the team. 

 

46 minutes ago, nateko said:

Just look at the pictures of body parts that are plastered on the walls of his basement.

 

Those pics add a stricking visual/set to his basement, to say the least.  

 

46 minutes ago, nateko said:

What's the scariest part is the fact that the GTT isn't just dealing with this psycho but with a whole network of like-minded messed up scum that the killer collected. It's scary because it reminds me of real life so much it's horrifying.
I'm familiar with these sick communities as I've once worked with a team that tracked such communities and tried to get rid of them, but man does this ring true. 
The realization that your dealing with so many people and not just one criminal is difficult to swallow because they aren't connected with each other in the real world so it's difficult to track them all individually and the only thing they have in common is their messed up nature. 
That's why I find that the GTT is in more danger than in the first season. They have no idea when and who will strike them while they are tracking the mastermind. 

   

I don't think those communities exist where i live and i never understood the reason why they seem to be so often mentionned in kdramas. It becomes clearer now that you mentioned your experience. 

I'm scared for the GTT:scream::tears: 

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My thought of ep 6 

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1- most likely kW has a brain problem that explains the blackout and so many things, the problem is he can't show that why,!! I think it has to be related to the reason that if  it  shows up he can't be a cop again, that why he talking medical care in secret. 

I don't know if what scare him is the fact that the problem he had just a danger healthy situation  or the fact it poof he can be a  killer. there so many brain problems that maybe  even make the two explaining right and there even more sickness outside  the brain too, but let me choice brain problem for now

Either ways kW has that problem before what happened, and looking at his untrust of people's character he will never share that with anyone and sure he will hide it more after what happened.

 

2. The killer for sure will make use of that to even make KW himself believe he a killer, kW like the most perfect player in this game that why even Kj didn't understand  why he let him live 3 years ago and we saw he get angry from his man when he attacks kW on his own that night in Ep 1.

 

3. Now the question why the killer has that so much interest on kW?? For sure he interested  in his darkness  but I will go wild and say he knows him from the 

Past, even before that night 3 years ago, I don't know why but I ewatch the scene of that night in Ep 1 and I keep having the feeling it was more like the killer made a stage  for kW to watch more than he brings him to be his victim , it like giving a gift to old friend in the crazy and weird  way of course, maybe I am wrong but that how I feel for now 

 

4.now the killer interested in Kj so much I will leave talking about that later since  I have to watch it with sub make my  thoughts about that 

 

5.most important Kj has grown on kW, I know he has hidden that but for sure he trusts her more now, trust her thought, respect  her smart  minds and want to hear her thought, moreover  she grow on him as partner  and human too, the way she trust, protect  and care for him and others in the team is touching him so much. And the finally care when she made sure to thanks him again and a knowledge that he risk himself to save agent jin even when he dany that, and when she send him food and medical tools to take care of his wound that was a nice and warm touch he even give that soft  face .

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P.s. the most  funny scene when all the men in golden time sitting eating and drinking together and talking and they all talk about team leader Kj  what she will do and what she is and kW  said " are you her fan's club ":joy: yes dear you should meet JH who will kill   you for talking back to her to know how popular this girl, she had all the team men and women in her fans club 

 

 

Edit: omg  I think I get why they show the killer so soon the killer face isn't the most important part of the story 

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The killer has access to the E-SYSTEM   the one wich has every police officer past, secrets especially the dirty one  , 

Now we know how he moving  everything  as he wish .

What scary that that system should be in  deleting  progress  so let me guess the killer is the hight ranked  police officer   or a computer genies   who they trust to delete  the system  that how everything start, how he know which cops he should target  and who the people  they hate theme 

So i guess or that he didn't delete  it on his own , or some higher police officer appointment him in the secret  mission to not delete  the system  but movie it outside for future use.( sure their some will find it hard to lose that kind of powerful tool even if the law say to not use it )  But  no matter how he get his hands on it or why it still there he just use that  for his craziness 

No matter what it all start from the fact that there crazy people who build  system like that on police and treat their collages  as mouses in the trap .:rage:

 

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9 hours ago, titania1000 said:

The killer  seemed to have a strange interest for Kang Woo: at one point (in a previous episode) he said that he offered him a chance to get away but Kang Woo chose to crawl back in the den of lions. Why give him a chance to survive? And why did he target his partner? 

 

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i agree his interest it show a deeper known of each other then what they show us till now 

i had my thoughts about that before but after watching ep 6 with sub i am sure now after hearing how he talk about  him with his mother ( sorry talk to his mother body:fearful: ) i am sure  KW is his first and most important target he not a victim for body part like kj and other  in the killer eyes. it  like  he someone important maybe he the reason why everything start i am afraid about the meaning of talking about "Cain and Abel " as a hint for kw  that never a good sign ( it bad a very bad i think i am starting to think about how this two know each other as children and what the lost memories that KW don't want to remember  and the killer keep talking about :confounded:)

3 hours ago, mandunim86 said:

seems like the killer really want to see GTT kneel begging to be forgiven by him :tears:

it his fav game for now, i think it more about KW now and since the GTT become his family and friends and changing the way the killer want KW to be they become his enemy, he plays on the trust things between them more than harming them he looks more interest in making KW lose everyone and stay alone in the end.

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One reason could be:  he intended to have Kang Woo do the job  to take Kwon Joo's ears, which could be problematic if he finds himself too close to the team. 

 

 

Those pics add a stricking visual/set to his basement, to say the least.  

 

   

I don't think those communities exist where i live and i never understood the reason why they seem to be so often mentionned in kdramas. It becomes clearer now that you mentioned your experience. 

I'm scared for the GTT:scream::tears: 

 

i don't want to think that they exist in the world even but sadly i know that they are. i still waiting to see what kind of psycho this man will be but for sure he still didn't show half of what he is ( fighting golden time team and remember what JH said in season 1 these crazy people think they are special but in the end of the day they just one of the crazy people they get catch  )

9 hours ago, nateko said:

Indeed the killer seemed to somewhat favour KW back then at the boat. He seemed to enjoy KW's anger. Maybe he found him to be similar in nature. KW was pretty open about his own hatred for criminals and that he had a hard time not harming them. That's something that we've also seen in episode 5 with Big Boss. So maybe the killer thought that KW was somewhat like him and that's why he was more lenient before KW dared to defy him. I also wondered how the partner ended up in that mess in the first place. Still have no idea though. Maybe he got money from the wrong person and the killer decided to get rid of him because he was a dirty cop, or maybe they were investigating something that eventually led them to the killer. I'm very curious about what happened back then. 

 

nice a different point :thumbsup: i will go with my thought that the know each other from the past but KW not remembering for now but i like so much your view of things, yeh maybe something KW said that night switch the killer and you right something no, so many things about that night is missing , is the KW partner was really there just for the money he stole??? how they both ending there ??? what happens that night ?? how the killer run and how KW was saved .................

wait a moment i missed something important?????  the killer really helped KW out and saved him before, everyone thought that KW is the killer he was almost throwing on jail all his life, they were so sure and about to close the case but suddenly the killer partner found death with note he admitted he did the crime and that how KW GET OUT EVEN when everyone still think he a killer , why did the killer do that , he could kill his partner and leave normal note that he kill himself, no one ever think that man was a danger i think he did it to get KW out, he kill him in that last moment and make sure he make KW out, he did make him look more like a killer for sure but what was important that he out and he still on the game.

no matter if it has something to do about what happen or said that night or if there more past for this two but one thing for sure the killer really want KW a live  for now, it a game that he thinks KW is his partner on it .

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Episode 6 was both fascinating and bizarre. I'm not a fan of the horror genre and certainly not of the Blair Witch Project and I'm not convinced that Voice 2 has suddenly turned into a supernatural thriller so I'm guessing that the Zombie Girl that's walking around biting people is suffering some kind of medical or mental health condition. That's probably not the most interesting thing that happened in the episode but I'm sure it'll lead to something else more interesting. As intriguing as the serial killer conspiracy might be, I appreciate these individual cases because that's where the social commentary and the emotional core of the show lies... for now at least. And I enjoy the thrill of watching Kwon Joo play the master controller, push the shiny buttons at her finger-tips, give orders to her minions while trying to figure out what's what. 

 

I suppose the bit that fascinated and disturbed me the most is the bit in the lift between Norman Bates and the chairperson of the body corporate. Yeah, sorry about me calling our anarchistic keyboard warrior "Norman Bates"... a convenient nickname for now even though I don't think he's suffering from dissociative disorder. But he was fantasizing about killing her in bloody fashion with garden shears. I suppose he has killed people but so far disguised them as suicides or accidents but does he cut off body parts on his own? Doesn't he usually get someone else to do his butchering for him? Extractions that would be his trophy. He trades on people's hatred but this is one occasion we see his personal contempt playing out both in technicolour as well as black and white.

 

The revelation that Kwan Woo suffers from blackouts does thicken the plot somewhat. Has he become an unreliable narrator of that night's events when his partner was murdered. Was he a party to his death? There are gaps in his memory, he questions his own sanity and wonders about his worst fears... it explains the nightmares and the mirror smashing to some extent. 

 

15 hours ago, titania1000 said:

I think that the character is not as clear cut as this description make it to be: he's not a killer or evil, he has enough empathy to avoid this path but he's still ambiguous as hell and the drama provided plenty signs of the fact he shouldn't be entirely trusted, not even by us, the audience,  who have been presented both versions of his involvement.  Despite, having a global comprehension of the story, i still feel that pieces are missing about him, and i don't know what picture will come out once they will be reunited with the rest of the puzzle.     

 

For me, so far despite his effectiveness on the field, his attitude is still off. I don't think he's committed: his work for the team is not his choice, he saves people because the alternative would be to go back to jail, if he was committed he would have find his place in the team, and would have showed relief at being allowed to do his job again and save people. Instead he  basically asked Kwon Joo to shut down the GTT's service to the public and keep the unit focused on tracking his only interest, showing contempt when she refused! And he did it even after saving the children from a sexual abuser...

 

I realized on rewatch after my previous post on the influence that they have on each other with Kwon Joo, that i'm not as comprehensive as i would like to be.

I'm blaming him for his harsh words thrown to Kwon Joo after the computer attack: she helped him and was one of the rare person to offer him the possibility to explain himself and prove his version of his ex partner death, but he still showed a complete indifference to her difficult position and made a point to taunt her and provoke her to reject her coworkers, her achievement with her team, her values, everything that  defines her and her identity. 

Either he doesn't get her at all / doesn't believe in her idealism (which doesn't make sense because her way is very successfull) or he was just trying to distract her from thinking about the new pic, which probably show him leaving the evidence room,  but in both cases, he showed an insensitivity that is hard to stomach at a point where the entire team is being targeted and under death threat. She asked all the team to come to Poogsan, she hold the responsability of the lives of the people working for the GTT, how could protecting their lives not be a part of the job for him?

It's not about being a hero at this point, it's just about having a bit of gratitude and wanting a human connection with her, and he's not even showing that.  

 

I can't shake either the feeling that even when he's acting like he should, notably with the victims, the positive impression fades away quickly because of how he acts with the culprits: i had a hard time when Jin Hyuk was doing it and i still condemn it.

In ep 5, Kwon Joo had to basically beg him to leave the criminal alive.The all team was clearly disturbed by his attitude when he closed the case but what could they say when he just saved the life of the family member of one of them?

He used his gun carelessly previously in front of the father of the children abused and the two woman present in the room and still put a hostage in danger by shooting at close range in ep5.

And i won't dig on the enjoyment he takes on taunting and beating the culprits. When one of the police officer from the serious crime unit reminded him that police brutality is not allowed anymore, he just turned his anger on him and pushed him!           

 

 

 

Well, I think a lot of it is an act... some of it borne out of fear that he could be a danger to others and it's his way of keeping people at a distance, not to form personal attachments for reasons known only to himself (maybe his mental health issues). I don't see bad manners as necessarily symptomatic of something sinister. ;) As far as I can tell he's just a man who has cultivated a persona so that people will believe certain things about him and stay away. And there's little doubt in my mind that he suffers serious survivor's guilt.

 

I suppose we're meant to think that there's something more to him because he walks on the wild side. He certainly perpetuates the image with a little glee. But I believe that when he's with the little boy... that's when we catch a glimpse of his heart. There's probably something of himself in that boy.

 

To me he feels like a man who thinks he's living on borrowed time... like someone who thinks he's dying of terminal cancer and has only one month left to live. He doesn't want sympathy, he doesn't want friends or be part of something bigger than himself. He just wants to solve the biggest mystery of his life, go somewhere quiet and die alone.

 

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1 hour ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

Well, I think a lot of it is an act... some of it borne out of fear that he could be a danger to others and it's his way of keeping people at a distance, not to form personal attachments for reasons known only to himself (maybe his mental health issues). I don't see bad manners as necessarily symptomatic of something sinister. ;) As far as I can tell he's just a man who has cultivated a persona so that people will believe certain things about him and stay away. And there's little doubt in my mind that he suffers serious survivor's guilt.

 

I suppose we're meant to think that there's something more to him because he walks on the wild side. He certainly perpetuates the image with a little glee. But I believe that when he's with the little boy... that's when we catch a glimpse of his heart. There's probably something of himself in that boy.

 

To me he feels like a man who thinks he's living on borrowed time... like someone who thinks he's dying of terminal cancer and has only one month left to live. He doesn't want sympathy, he doesn't want friends or be part of something bigger than himself. He just wants to solve the biggest mystery of his life, go somewhere quiet and die alone.

 

 

That's how I see KW as well, at least for now. After watching the 6th episode though, I had this thought that it would be mindblowing if the killers accomplice in the Poongsan Violent Crimes unit is actually KW who just doesn't remember what he's doing. I wouldn't be all to happy if they went in that direction thought it would be crazy thrilling. They are pretty specific by saying that the accomplice works in the Violent Crimes unit, but if it's not NHS then there aren't that many suspects left. Actually I'm more suspicious of the detective that's been assigned to the GTT, who worked with NHS before. I feel like that guy is very quiet, reserved and tries not to stand out too much. I'm betting on him for now.  

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14 hours ago, nateko said:

 

Indeed the killer seemed to somewhat favour KW back then at the boat. He seemed to enjoy KW's anger. Maybe he found him to be similar in nature. KW was pretty open about his own hatred for criminals and that he had a hard time not harming them. That's something that we've also seen in episode 5 with Big Boss. So maybe the killer thought that KW was somewhat like him and that's why he was more lenient before KW dared to defy him. I also wondered how the partner ended up in that mess in the first place. Still have no idea though. Maybe he got money from the wrong person and the killer decided to get rid of him because he was a dirty cop, or maybe they were investigating something that eventually led them to the killer. I'm very curious about what happened back then. 

 

 

There's no doubt in my mind that our main killer feeds off the fears of people that he targets. And he gets off on seeing them squirm and begging for mercy. But KW was different... assuming that what we saw in the first part of Episode 1 was an accurate account of what happened... KW fought tooth and nail with his captors. He was defiant to the end, kicking and swearing at the culprits. And even when the accomplice was about to cut off his ankle, he managed to fight his way out of it. Now I can only speculate that our killer has some admiration for KW's indomitable fighting spirit and his unusual refusal to cower in the face of horrifying adversity. Anyone else would have fallen into a heap and cried out to be saved etc but KW reacted in a way that was unexpected to him. We are told that our serial killer is a hunter and perhaps he had admiration for his prey that fought back with courage so he set him free to see how the prey would survive the rest of the hunt. 

 

I think KW's partner was targeted because he was dirty as that would be seen by our killer as as a capitulation to fear... hence a weakness.

 

2 hours ago, nateko said:

 

That's how I see KW as well, at least for now. 

 

I realise that it's necessary to qualify all our statements about KW at this point in time because there are gaps in his knowledge and ours. ;) 

And it would be the biggest twist in Kdramaland this year if KW turns out to be a key member of this anarchistic conspiracy. But KW has blackouts in his memory not complete amnesia so I'm not really inclined to think that he has villainous intentions primarily because of the incredible guilt that he seems to be weighed under. Also I think the show is trying a bit hard to make KW dark around the edges and suspicious in everyone's eyes. I think the same way as KJ... most people think the contradictions in his personality points to his guilt but I think they point to him being a better man than he's been given credit for.

 

Of course, it wouldn't be first time I was wrong. ;)

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[Voice 2] Ep 6 Scary episode with zombies, Kwon Yul tells Lee Ha Na, "Lee Jin Wook is my accomplice"

Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2018

 
Article: Naver 'Voice 2' "Lee Jin Wook is my accomplice.." Evidence shared with Lee Ha Na

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Is he using Do Kang Woo's memory loss...? I thought today's episode was horror. 


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Do Kang Woo at a disadvantage. He can't remember, and the evidence are all pointing toward him. 


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Seems like he figured out that Lee Jin Wook has another personality, and took a picture of that. 


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This is extremely interesting. 


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I get so immersed in Voice 2 too. It's so fun to watch. Today's episode was scary, but it's a life drama. 


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The scriptwriter of Voice is too good. The way she chooses her the cases for her episodes are excellent. She raises awareness for child molestation crimes, have people be careful of voice phishing. For zombies on drugs, she tells people to avoid drugs. What's next? She's great. Thumbs up. 


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Today's was so scary.. The elevator scene with Bang Je Soo (Kwon Yul). 

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Zombies on drugs.. I got goosebumps. 


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Lee Jin Wook is cool. 

 
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Article: Naver 'Voice 2' Kwon Yul induces fear in viewers,'Evil Voice' …Tension   

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She's going to suspect Lee Jin Wook as the culprit again.. Is she going to be frustrating? 


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The ghost is more scary than Kwon Yul. 


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Kwon Yul is making them not trust each other. It makes viewers confused about who 
the real culprit is, which made it more interesting. 


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Seems like he's cutting off body parts separately and attaching them on the person lying on the bed whom he calls mother. 


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The zombie is scarier than Kwon Yul. 


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Looks like they are describing those people living in the apartment these days!! It may not be a murder scene!! But if anyone! Hears that their family members get cursed, 
they would get angry!!!!! Let's live with respect for each other!!

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The BJ filming part was so scary yesterday. 


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It was so scary seeing Bang Je Soo killing the woman... I think it will get even scarier as it goes..
 

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Seems like he's cutting off body parts separately and attaching them on the person lying on the bed whom he calls mother. 
 

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Oooh, I had this thought as well, that the killer is a Frankenstein in the making. Otherwise it's unclear where he keeps all the body parts. 

And it does seem like the killer has special plans for KW. It's like he wants KW to take a central part in his twisted plan and blame him for everything, that's why he was so upset that KW was starting to get along with the team. Another interesting thing is that the killer's mom worked as a hostess in a bar or something, the neighbors even thought that she prostituted herself. Maybe that played a big part in forming the killer's twisted mind. I'd say that the key to understanding the psycho's motivations as well as the key to his demise is all his mom and her story. Mo Tae Gu became what he was partly because of his father, here we'll likely see how the mother, her job and how the people treated her and her son all contributed to shaping him. 

 

As a side note, I really enjoyed KW's and KJ's interaction in this episode. They were cute. 

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The ghost is too scary to me huhuhu

I cannot handle this horror scene. I just like to watch the bright scene like when KJ delivered the lunch box to KW lol

 

I dont think Voice is turned out to be supernatural genre either, but what was going on made me so headache. :confounded:

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1 hour ago, yessy said:

The ghost is too scary to me huhuhu

I cannot handle this horror scene. I just like to watch the bright scene like when KJ delivered the lunch box to KW lol

 

I dont think Voice is turned out to be supernatural genre either, but what was going on made me so headache. :confounded:

I don't think it's anything supernatural. The zombie girl might've been forced to take a certain type of drug, that makes people act the way she did - like a zombie. There's this drug called flakka/bath salts/zombie drug that apparently make one act zombie-like. Here's an interesting article on the subject - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/flakka-what-is-it-florida-face-eating-attack-zombie-drug-austin-harrouff-a7195871.html

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3 hours ago, nateko said:

 

Oooh, I had this thought as well, that the killer is a Frankenstein in the making. Otherwise it's unclear where he keeps all the body parts. 

And it does seem like the killer has special plans for KW. It's like he wants KW to take a central part in his twisted plan and blame him for everything, that's why he was so upset that KW was starting to get along with the team. Another interesting thing is that the killer's mom worked as a hostess in a bar or something, the neighbors even thought that she prostituted herself. Maybe that played a big part in forming the killer's twisted mind. I'd say that the key to understanding the psycho's motivations as well as the key to his demise is all his mom and her story. Mo Tae Gu became what he was partly because of his father, here we'll likely see how the mother, her job and how the people treated her and her son all contributed to shaping him. 

 

As a side note, I really enjoyed KW's and KJ's interaction in this episode. They were cute. 

First I enjoyed kW and kj  too this ep's 

I like your thought about the killer mother, normally when I watch this kind of story I want to know the reason and the story behind psycho but it not the case this time, I think I am more busy trying to understand the our psychopath  detective :joy: no for  real now I am busy with kW back story and his connection with the killer so I guess I will just reading  enjoy everyone  thought about the killer mother this week.

4 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

 

There's no doubt in my mind that our main killer feeds off the fears of people that he targets. And he gets off on seeing them squirm and begging for mercy. But KW was different... assuming that what we saw in the first part of Episode 1 was an accurate account of what happened... KW fought tooth and nail with his captors. He was defiant to the end, kicking and swearing at the culprits. And even when the accomplice was about to cut off his ankle, he managed to fight his way out of it. Now I can only speculate that our killer has some admiration for KW's indomitable fighting spirit and his unusual refusal to cower in the face of horrifying adversity. Anyone else would have fallen into a heap and cried out to be saved etc but KW reacted in a way that was unexpected to him. We are told that our serial killer is a hunter and perhaps he had admiration for his prey that fought back with courage so he set him free to see how the prey would survive the rest of the hunt. 

 

I think KW's partner was targeted because he was dirty as that would be seen by our killer as as a capitulation to fear... hence a weakness.

 

 

I realise that it's necessary to qualify all our statements about KW at this point in time because there are gaps in his knowledge and ours. ;) 

And it would be the biggest twist in Kdramaland this year if KW turns out to be a key member of this anarchistic conspiracy. But KW has blackouts in his memory not complete amnesia so I'm not really inclined to think that he has villainous intentions primarily because of the incredible guilt that he seems to be weighed under. Also I think the show is trying a bit hard to make KW dark around the edges and suspicious in everyone's eyes. I think the same way as KJ... most people think the contradictions in his personality points to his guilt but I think they point to him being a better man than he's been given credit for.

 

Of course, it wouldn't be first time I was wrong. ;)

Actually  I would  said that will never happen but omg  it did happen in kdrams land before  it was the biggest  twists ever since they let that to the end 

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I am talking about gods gift  14 days when they made the lead in the last the killer I know they make him correct that but the shock that he was the killer he was fighting against all the drama and his ending i don't want to talk about 

Okay beside that twists  I will think that the killer really just using kW conditions to make him believe he a killer , I think the killer want him to lose it and really do a murder for some reason and for that to happen he need him to lose his big self control that he was using all his life.

 

By the way i am  enjoying your analysis of what happened that night it good one and it has a big  chance to be right. 

The killer really enjoying 4 things 

1. Killing a dirty police  officer 

2. Make them lose them self in fear and angry and destroy their  soul before killing them ( that why when they kill the team leader they want him to watch himself caus the death of innocent people; to let him suffer  till the end ) 

3. He enjoy collect his victim body part 

4. Really enjoy controling people life and action he acting like God that know what going to happen 

 

So looking at kW personality and his acting that night and after that he  doesn't fit the killer game  roles he made killing him is useless  that not what the killer want since it destroy  his fun :sweat: so that maybe explain  what you said ( kW not a dirty cop as far as we know he the psychopath  who enjoy only catching criminal  and has zero interested  in money, freinds ,connecting and women and if he has that violence  part he was using  it on psycho criminal so as far we know he don't fit that point either )

 

But as I wrote before for now I am more with the thoughts  that the killer know him from the past , they sharing  more connection  sure thoughts  will be more clearor change  with each episodes  I like reading different  ideas that making watching this kind of story is the best

 

8 hours ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

 

 

To me he feels like a man who thinks he's living on borrowed time... like someone who thinks he's dying of terminal cancer and has only one month left to live. He doesn't want sympathy, he doesn't want friends or be part of something bigger than himself. He just wants to solve the biggest mystery of his life, go somewhere quiet and die alone.

 Wow  reading it 

 

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Wow what words you use "he's living on borrowed time" that a great written  but  sorry i hope you wrong about it , and it just he has trust issued especially  in himself that he don't let people get closer fearing what they will see inside him or fearing they can't accept him and he will be hurt ( he more nor liking himself more then not like other) 

It make me think the person who appear hating everything beautiful , he doesn't hate them he just can't love himself enough to alow himself enjoying them

I apologise for it again it enough to think he maybe psychopath and that crany monster after him and maybe kill him or worse make him a monster so I have no heart to think he also face sickness  death :joy:

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this season just ....up my life oh my god this is so complicated, there's a lot of pressure on GTT, i have no words for this psycho really :tears: i will die in curiosity :wacko:

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Look at those beautiful ratings! 

5,4% for ep6!!!!:w00t:

 

 

I'm so pleased! :blush: I would throw a party if i had enough celebration emojis!^_^ 

 

Edit: no celebration emojis but those precious gifs of LHN and KJW with Kwon Yul will do the job! 

 

 

 

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Someone may have posted this theory already because I am late to the party and there are too many posts to comb through but I have a feeling that our main killer's (Kwon Yul) mother is dead and the reason he is collecting body parts is to rebuild her body. It's a little dark and probably overreaching but I wanted to write it just in case this theory proves correct. 

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15 hours ago, nona88 said:

 

Wow what words you use "he's living on borrowed time" that a great written  but  sorry i hope you wrong about it , and it just he has trust issued especially  in himself that he don't let people get closer fearing what they will see inside him or fearing they can't accept him and he will be hurt ( he more nor liking himself more then not like other) 

It make me think the person who appear hating everything beautiful , he doesn't hate them he just can't love himself enough to alow himself enjoying them

I apologise for it again it enough to think he maybe psychopath and that crany monster after him and maybe kill him or worse make him a monster so I have no heart to think he also face sickness  death :joy:

 

Well, it's only an analogy to illustrate a point. ;) I don't really want him to be terminally ill either. :D Especially if he's had such a hard life including a traumatic childhood which I'm assuming that he has. My feeling is that he blames himself for all kinds of things including his former partner's death which is why he doesn't get close to people and why he's so driven to solve crimes. There is most definitely a kind of recklessness about him that seems to come from a desperate sense of urgency.

Anything is possible in the world of drama of course but the probability of him being in league with Coast Guard Killer is low. From what we know it is more likely that our killer wants to play divide and conquer within the police ranks.

 

Still I think the notion that Coast Guard Killer wants to turn KW into a one of his killing monsters has a lot of merit. He saw the anger in his eyes and thought KW would be a ripe candidate for something but KW hasn't danced to his tune in ways he's expected. 

 

6 hours ago, megan11 said:

Someone may have posted this theory already because I am late to the party and there are too many posts to comb through but I have a feeling that our main killer's (Kwon Yul) mother is dead and the reason he is collecting body parts is to rebuild her body. It's a little dark and probably overreaching but I wanted to write it just in case this theory proves correct. 

 

I think that is a possibility since he's always asking his mother to wait for him to finish his business and it does explain why he's kept the body. He doesn't think like the average person that's for certain. ;) 

I've seen other dramas where the psychopathic serial killer of the moment collects parts to build their perfect woman.

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