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I enjoyed this show and had fun. But ep 6 happened and I'm starting to pull my hair. The ineptness is just aggravating. The drunk scene was overplayed. Slow burn romance all they want but what did that drunk scene highlight? What did it showcase? Haeri's low alcohol tolerance? Her drunk kissing habit? It was okay the first time, it was a mistake, but even KTW wanted to fire her. In real life that is sexual harrassment. Being drunk does not make her actions okay. Being cute does not make it okay. And she repeated it with Dalgun! Gosh! Control your alcohol consumption! Unfortunately I don't see her drunk Dalgun scene has any character depth. It would have been better if she ranted about her day, how she killed someone, how she let Mr Mole get away and Dalgun was there to comfort her. That would be more believable. That would have gave us character development and a true OTP moment instead of drunk scene. Sigh.

 

Hae Ri not having field experience is one thing...but she could have shown more intelligence and think before she acts. As an agent she was trained for situations, but what she did in ep 6 just highlighted how inept she is. She had no strategy whatsoever. It's fine if Mr Mole got away for whatever future plot there is, but at least make Hae Ri more intelligent in the scene. She was rambling and totally unprepared..... 

 

37 minutes ago, smiletall said:

This story is definitely tilting DGxHR in terms of couple ships, but I cannot wait to see TW reluctantly pine over HR (though I can bet, it will be too late). 

 

I was shipping for fun and I'm fine with my Rock Candy aka Taewoong Haeri ship sinking...it is the fate of a supporting character :tears:. But I will never be fine if they make Taewoong go cray2 and pine for Haeri's affection...it goes against his character so far. I rather KTW be indifferent about Haeri's crush on him, makes more sense characterwise. But I'm all in if they decide to make Hae Ri more capable and pair her with Taewoong. Secret office romance. Wohooo. Hahahahaha!

 

 

 

 

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@cherriesblue, here you go :)

 

[7th preview]
A task force leads by Kang Joo Chul is secretly formed in the NIS.
When the task force found a burner phone that Sang Mi used to speak to Wooki, they realize that Wooki is hiding in a slum in Morocco.
Task force immediately head to Morocco to catch Wooki, and Dalgun secretly follows the task force to Morocco...

 

 

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10 hours ago, katakwasabi said:

I enjoyed this show and had fun. But ep 6 happened and I'm starting to pull my hair. The ineptness is just aggravating. The drunk scene was overplayed. Slow burn romance all they want but what did that drunk scene highlight? What did it showcase? Haeri's low alcohol tolerance? Her drunk kissing habit? It was okay the first time, it was a mistake, but even KTW wanted to fire her. In real life that is sexual harrassment. Being drunk does not make her actions okay. Being cute does not make it okay. And she repeated it with Dalgun! Gosh! Control your alcohol consumption! Unfortunately I don't see her drunk Dalgun scene has any character depth. It would have been better if she ranted about her day, how she killed someone, how she let Mr Mole get away and Dalgun was there to comfort her. That would be more believable. That would have gave us character development and a true OTP moment instead of drunk scene. Sigh.

ha ha ditto. After 5 episodes i really wanted to believe that GHR is infact a double agent and she has been putting on an act to confuse people around her but now i'm almost convince she is something of an airhead. 

 

18 hours ago, lollyminx said:

Haha yes. This was one of the cringey scenes I was talking about. I was like, "Soooooo they're really sending Go Hae Ri ALONE to arrest a HIGH VALUE TARGET? And then Go Hae Ri rushes in and takes out her gun when he was not being a threat? No calling and waiting for backup before the arrest?" 

After HR shot that guy at the safe house she was obviously shaking and all. I believe Dir Kang knew she would fail to arrest him that's why he sent in HR to do the job when he can actually call hq for back up. 

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1 hour ago, imgreatgal said:

ha ha ditto. After 5 episodes i really wanted to believe that GHR is infact a double agent and she has been putting on an act to confuse people around her but now i'm almost convince she is something of an airhead. 

 

After HR shot that guy at the safe house she was obviously shaking and all. I believe Dir Kang knew she would fail to arrest him that's why he sent in HR to do the job when he can actually call hq for back up. 

 

Oh....that's an interesting theory. Dir. Kang is evil mastermind!! I can take that. That makes Haeri more tolerable. Haha.

 

Maybe both Haeri and Dir Kang are evil and just playing with everyone in NIS. *theory running wild*

 

Whatever happens...I hope Ki Tae Woong remains on the right path. 

 

See...SBS shared pics with this caption (google trans)

https://m.programs.sbs.co.kr/drama/vagabond/visualboard/60783/?cmd=view&page=1&board_no=418461

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Hahahaha! :lol:

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@bebebisous33 recap of the early ep is amazing. Yes come to think about it Edward Park seems remarkably calm as the rep of the company who is losing the bid for the government's fighter jet purchase.

 

Yes, everyone besides Haeri and CDG seems to have double roles and there are really no one to trust except 

 

@incoty may I know where can I view that Lee Seung Gi Vlog? Now that I look at that later kiss photo, it seems to be a setting in the hospital and on Haeri side is a wheelchair? and DG side is a walking aid? Now that's getting interesting. 

 

@smiletall Such a lovely long post you wrote. Yes they did mentioned the second part of the show will have more of Haeri, I mean there are only that many car crashes they can do. We seems to have one every ep and sometimes I got a feeling the director has a fetish for flipping cars. 

 

Yes DG seems indestructible, someone mentioned his stab wound in the leg, right they just conveniently ignore it. 

 

Still, the show is really entertaining for me this far. The director is good with editing, his previous work Romantic Doctor Kim was a breezy drama too. I hope by now, with the ratings and viewer's feedback, they will know what the viewers prefer and finetune the scenes editing for the other eps. 

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3 hours ago, Seoulmemories said:

@incoty may I know where can I view that Lee Seung Gi Vlog? Now that I look at that later kiss photo, it seems to be a setting in the hospital and on Haeri side is a wheelchair? and DG side is a walking aid? Now that's getting interesting. 

 

I don't know if he was specifically referring to that scene. It could be another scene.

 

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3 hours ago, Seoulmemories said:

I hope by now, with the ratings and viewer's feedback, they will know what the viewers prefer and finetune the scenes editing for the other eps

 

This is entirely pre-produced. All the editing's been done.

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@incoty thanks for the link. Yes i understand its all pre-produced but the director can still edit the future eps to lengthened or shortened some scenes.

 

Even for netflix, I heatd, the reason why the latest ep is only available internationally, one hour after korean broadcast is because they only get to subbed it as it gets broadcast. Its scary how confidential they keep every ep.

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26 minutes ago, Seoulmemories said:

@incoty thanks for the link. Yes i understand its all pre-produced but the director can still edit the future eps to lengthened or shortened some scenes.

 

Even for netflix, I heatd, the reason why the latest ep is only available internationally, one hour after korean broadcast is because they only get to subbed it as it gets broadcast. Its scary how confidential they keep every ep.

 

Isn't all eps only available an hour after the korean broadcast? I don't think it has anything to do with confidentiality though.

 

They need to get real-time ratings. IMO, releasing the episode on netflix the same time as it is aired on SBS would be detrimental to the realtime ratings. Kviewers are already complaining about the ads. And for the hype Vagabond got, the real time ratings is a big issue. 11-ish% ratings is quite good for current standards but nowhere close to The Fiery Priest ratings which aired in the same time slot earlier this year. I hope Vagabond lives up to its hype even more in the 2nd half and the ratings will be higher.

 

Vagabond fighting!

 

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3 hours ago, Seoulmemories said:

@incoty thanks for the link. Yes i understand its all pre-produced but the director can still edit the future eps to lengthened or shortened some scenes.

 

Even for netflix, I heatd, the reason why the latest ep is only available internationally, one hour after korean broadcast is because they only get to subbed it as it gets broadcast. Its scary how confidential they keep every ep.

in the case of Kdrama shown in Netflix. Netflix usually had bought the exclusive license earlier. So they already had the raw video as soon as it had been edited in Korea and they will subbed it. The reason Netflix only be able to post an hour or few hours after broadcast is to respect the TV station airing the drama in South Korea. They need the real time ratings. That is why Netflix delayed the time to post the drama online. 

 

This is profesionalism. no wonder how early they already got the videos (since this is a pre produced drama), but the subbers of Netflix need to keep it to themselves. They cannot give out spoilers. 

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9 hours ago, katakwasabi said:

Isn't all eps only available an hour after the korean broadcast?

Is it really available after an hour? It seems like a few hours later. There are some kdrama that are available a few hours after the original airing, but others seem to take longer. Like you have to wait half a day for the new episodes. This is what I've experienced with Vagabond. It takes too long compared to other series on Netflix such as When the Camellia Blooms, which updates the episodes earlier. 

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57 minutes ago, lollyminx said:

Is it really available after an hour? It seems like a few hours later. There are some kdrama that are available a few hours after the original airing, but others seem to take longer. Like you have to wait half a day for the new episodes. This is what I've experienced with Vagabond. It takes too long compared to other series on Netflix such as When the Camellia Blooms, which updates the episodes earlier. 

 

To be honest..I'm not sure about the schedule on netflix since I don't immediately watch Vagabond eps as soon as it is available, but I get updates on naver or IG as the ep airs in korea :lol:. I'm also not watching camelia. Heh.

 

But...a few hours later for subs isn't that long. There were times that subs took days, weeks, longer or never. Hahaha. I'm glad kdramas are easily acessible now. The days of downloading each ep, waiting for .srt sub files, hjsplit are long gone, the fansubs were great.

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I feel the PM as the bad guy is too easy. I feel it would be a SHOCKER if the President is really the guy pulling the strings? But even if not, the President is clearly inept and a shakedown is gonna happen in the end. I am still feeling the PM is the "good guy" even though all points him to be bad guy.

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I am not too sure if this has been shared here but I was surprised when I chanced upon a translation.  So, here's my contribution for the day :)

Evaluation by the weapons instructor; Who is the Real Gunman in Vagabond?

Source: http://viewers.heraldcorp.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=44131#_enliple

 

The drama Vagabond which was released through SBS and Netflix on September 20, received a lot of attention since it was produced.  Apart from being a masterpiece, the company has made several new efforts in introducing this full-scale Korean spy drama, both domestically and internationally.  Previously, director Yoo In Sik revealed the reasons he chose Lee Seung Gi and Bae Suzy, namely LSG's military background of the special forces and final casting of Suzy.  Director Yoo even reportedly offered the role of Cha Dal Gun to Lee Seung Gi when the actor was still in military.  For the sake of the totality of the work, the actors underwent tactical training to enhance the deepening of their roles for several months before filming began.  Reporting from Military Professional Reporter Tae Sang Ho, let's find out who is the real shooter in Vagabond based on the evaluation results from instructors who trained the main actors.

 

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Lee Seung Gi (Cha Dal Gun): Trained Gunman

Lee Seung Gi who served in the ROK SWC Army Special Warfare Command, Black Panther, he completed his jump training very well and underwent close combat training without weapons, which is difficult even for ordinary soldiers.  His instructor in the military remembered him as a serious soldier who hardly gave up.  It was proven that he was known as a certified Military Warrior.  When preparing for Vagabond, this aspect of him was revealed to the media.  The training went very smoothly thanks to his extraordinary basic tactical knowledge and familiarity with other types of firearms.  The instructor said he was a well-trained armed man.  Instead of showing concern, the instructor told him "Your character in the drama is a stuntman.  Shouldn't you pretend to be a little amateurish?"

 

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Bae Suzy (Go Hae Ri): An unexpected lady who gets 100 points in martial arts

In terms of physical aspect and appearance, there are definitely no sharp objects or weapons that match her.  Therefore, the firing and tactics instructor for Vagabond was worried whether she could attend basic tactical education before undergoing full-scale training.  But on the field, even though there were many action scenes while filming in Morocco, she was able to do all the scenes without any problems and received a standing ovation from local Moroccan and Korean staff for her success.  The instructor shared his metaphorical impression of her, "The youngest child who was not expected to be better actually received a hundred in school."

 

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Shin Sung Rok (Ki Tae Woong): The Hard Worker

The role of Shin Sung Rok is Ki Tae Woong, head of NIS.  During shooting practice, he was the team leader.  Trained tactical personnel would feel tired when they have to shoot more than 400 shots a day.  But he impressed the instructor by voluntarily learning to shoot more even though he did not use any real weapons.  The results of not betraying his efforts were proven during the shooting process which went on smoothly.  Instructor's evaluation for him, "Gi Tae Woong, a young man from a rich family who really grew up as a leader."

 

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Yu Tae Oh (Jeremy): "What can't you do?"

In Vagabond, Yu Tae Oh who plays an international mercenary named Jeremy, is fluent in English, German, and other languages.  He said he had never dealt with firearms and personally did not like weapons.  But when tactical training took place, he showed extraordinary talent in mastering weapons and tactics.  The instructor said to him, "What can't you do?" It was rumored that he spoke about this for a long time.

 

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Lee Ki Young (Kang Ju Cheol): The Hidden Master

Actor Lee Ki Young plays the role of Kang Ju Cheol, chief instructor of NIS.  He said he didn't often deal with firearms in Vagabond, but he surprised everyone in a shooting scene.  His knowledge of firearms and his abilities are just like an expert.  The staff and weapons instructors in the field were amazed by his shooting skills until he was dubbed the Hidden Master.

 

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Choi Dae Cheol (Kim Do Su): Shooting King / Destructive King

He was the actor who did the most shooting scenes in Vagabond.  He appears as a defector from a North Korean special force named Kim Do Su who tried to kill Cha Dal Gun several times.  He underwent complete weapons and tactical training which includes North Korean dialect and various firearms to fulfill his role.  In particular, in order to match the character of the North Korean defector, he had to practice using special, rarely known firearms such as AK.  The instructor said, "One of his best efforts was that he even treated the instructors barbecue when they had to practice on their own, even on a Sunday."  The instructor called him the King of Shooting or King of Destruction because he has many shooting scenes and there were always explosive scenes in every appearance.

 

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Park Ah In (Lily): Goddess of Death

In Vagabond, Park Ah In plays the serial killer named Lily.  As a murderer, she spends a lot of time training in basic tactics because she has to deal with various weapons.  When there is no regular training schedule, she will borrow a training gun and practice in a moving car.  Lily is a character that is very difficult to digest because she has both weak and strong appearances simultaneously, but she plays it perfectly.  The instructor regarded her as a wild lily.

 

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Ryuwon (Mickey): The Sponge

Ryuwon is the youngest actress to undergo tactical training while filming Vagabond.  She said maybe she was born to use a firearm, but the instructor did not really believe her until she showed the ability behind her innocent face.  The instructor's nickname for her was The Sponge, because she was able to absorb everything well during the training .

 

PS. I am concluding that Mickey was the one who killed Michael.  Look at her build and those lips! ;)

 

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I love how fast paced this drama is, even if it requires suspension of disbelief sometimes :grimace:

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