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[Drama 2018-2019] Memories of the Alhambra | Recuerdos de la Alhambra, 알함브라 궁전의 추억

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I liked when JW said that he didnt give up on life, and that 

its the game thats crazy, and not him.

Smart and brave.

It is clear that he wont give up, not matter how hard it gets.

 

I dont know if its just me, but JW looks even more sexy, even with that cane. 

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Good evening, everyone!
I will take the time to read your comments from the previous 5 pages, but later, because it is late.
And I'm very interested in giving you my opinion, given my state of excitement after episodes 7 and 8.
It's very difficult, because in fact, I just have to say:
WAHOU!!!! I'm speechless!!!!! Totally on my richard simmons!!!!!
(end of my opinion ^^)


I feel a form of love for the scriptwriter Song Jae-Jung, and I thank her for coming to exist on this earth!
I hope I will have the opportunity to see all her future dramas before I die. (At the same time, it's not very nice, it forces her to die before me).


As I expected, it was not possible to predict how things would turn out.

As I don't have time to detail scenes and details, I focused on a particular quality of her writing.
She knows how to push the limit to the last end.


"Pushing the limit", I mean that when you see a scene as a spectator, you tend to anticipate a reasonable conclusion for that scene, but the writer will surprise you.

For example, if two lovers argue, and their relationship is very important to the story, it is anticipated that they will eventually reconcile. We can "push the limit" by preventing this reconciliation in an unexpected and surprising way for the spectator during the scene, and transfer it to the next scene. It's already a good story. But some writers like SJJ have the art of pushing the limit much further. (Example, in "W", when Kang Chul shoots Yoon-Jo.)

 

In MOA episode 5, there was this incredible scene that ended with the embrace of the two main characters in the rain (and I'll talk about it again when I have time, it's also another type of narrative process, very rare and very difficult to do.). Before this scene, SJJ had "pushed the limit", just as the countdown was expected to end in the hospital room.

 

In episode 7, she "pushes the limit" in the way JW is indifferent to HJ. It starts at the beginning of the episode, when he wants to erase "Emma", and other nasty things. We expected that his coldness was due to his forced escape... and not! (another surprise!)


There is the extremely intense scene where he will find her at her "Emma" shop in the evening, in the rain. Well, now, I admit, I shed a tear so hard it was. We expect their relationship (sentimental?) to start to warm up.
And then, on the other hand, JW never stops being a bastard, with the brother's fake emails. I noted the exquisite and unexpected passage where HJ told him that she understood that it was him and not her brother.


The limit will be pushed back throughout this confrontation in several stages, so that when JW goes by car at the end, and hangs up the phone in front of HJ (!!!!!!!), we finally accept it, and consider that it is definitely a cad that made her suffer from beginning to end. Well done, the limit has been pushed so far that at the last stage, we are definitivly so surprise that we think, ok, now we manage to live with it next time...
..... and at that moment his car stops, inviting JH to climb in..... Oo


richard simmons! richard simmons! SJJ is an incredible source of inspiration. So I watch her drama with passion, intensity and attention to detail, because maybe some of her talent will eventually become natural to me as well.

 

This is my first 7/8 intervention, always full of enthusiasm, be well, all of you!

 

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29 minutes ago, rocher22 said:

Ofcourse  that JW saw the difference between HJ and the

other two women.

HJs teras and care for him were honest.

 

JW can like HJ's tears all he want, but him saying Sujin's tears right after her husband's sudden death as excuses is just reaching. Yura's tears are fake so i get it but Sujin's tears were not for him, it was for her husband. So i dont really understand his comparison. Huhu

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20 hours ago, pattsue said:

- JW is now an alcoholic 

 

I don't think so.
A Korean can be considered an alcoholic from two bottles of whisky a day. ^^

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Gosh aigoo my heart my heart my heart with that i missed you scene ...... no touching no kiss just jin woo saying i miss you makes my heart flutter... aigoo

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2 hours ago, siddy09 said:

Allies can not be separated and I found it strange when the programmer could not change that when he could alter almost everything else. Why is that when it comes to real people, the game goes haywire and doesn't respond? Is it something related to human choice(zombie Cha chose to be JinWoo's enemy and Sec Soo chose to be his ally) whereas being Emma was not a owned/informed decision of HJ and that's why she could be deleted.

 

Good points in your post. Sorry I cut it short to just the bits I wanted to comment on.

 

I also thought that the game goes haywire when it comes to real people. HJ has never played the game. Rather, her face was used for a game NPC.  So, the NPC could be deleted without any issues. However, as you've said, Zombie Cha, Sec Soo are human as are JW, Marco, and SJ, so there seems to be additional constraints on them. What's unclear is how much of it is programming and how much of it is magic. Clearly, some of it is magic since a game death shouldn't translate to real death, though if the drama is going to attempt an explanation, it's probably going to have something to do with neurotransmitters in the brain, I would think. Still, if it's provided at all, it's going to be plenty of handwaving.

 

Btw, I don't think it's clear yet how Marco died, and whether he died in the game or not. If he died in the game and his body was not discovered for almost a year, the body would have been in a state of decomposition, not to mention the little critters that would have been taking bites of the body. So, I didn't think it was clear whether Marco was taken out by the RL thugs or had lost an in game battle that took his life.

 

 

In general, I liked the slower pace of today's episode as we got more backstory, and JW and HJ got to interact more. I was touched when JW thought to himself how much HJ's gestures of caring when no one was watching meant to him when he was so fed up with public displays of emotion meant for show rather than indicative of any true deep feeling. And, I totally loved it that JW told HJ that he had missed her, with the implication that he hadn't been able to wait longer to see her.

 

I know that HJ is mad at JW right now, and I actually think that she's right to be mad at him. I mean, JW did do things without letting HJ know, both in terms of the trouble that SJ might be in as well as buying the game rights in the way he did without HJ actually understanding what she was selling. However, HJ is going to get over her anger, especially as she comes to admit that she needs JW to find SJ, and HJ is grateful to JW for his efforts to find SJ. I think HJ is aware that JW is probably able to do much more than she could, even though I totally understand her need to do something, anything rather than just sitting back and letting others try to find SJ. I'm looking forward to further interactions between JW and HJ, especially after they team up. One question in my mind is whether HJ will enter the game. We've seen that JW doesn't want Park to enter the game since he might not be able to leave. I can't imagine JW will be willing for HJ to risk being in the game, however, there might be circumstances where only HJ, potentially as a stand in for the deleted in-game Emma, can do.

 

Otherwise, plenty of other commentary on episodes 7/8, so I'll leave it here for the moment.

 

One final thought, I'm actually loving how much like a film each episode is rather than a tv drama. The shots, the acting, the sets, the cinematography, it's all so beautifully done. I had some doubts about the plotting based on the writer's previous works, but I think this drama is unfolding in a measured kind of way, with enough reveal to keep us engaged even as it ratchets up the tension and the pacing. This week's episode felt a bit like a calm before the storm.  I'm looking forward to where the next episode will go.

 

 

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Aigoooo, Sesange!!!!,

Finally we will know soon our beloved EXO hide about.

SJ has not logged in for almost a year, he disappeared together with Marco.

My silly brain thought very silly.... very silly now, What if .... let say on the run Marco and poor SJ was chased by the Drug landlord. And Marco accidentally saying that SJ as the programmer got offered 10 million won.

So the bad people killed Marco (because he got no money) and the SeJoo got kidnapped by Italian drug dealer (NOT landlord).

And... in return, That drug dealer boss joined the game and kill CHS and chased JW! :unsure:

 

I know it doesn't make sense Hahaha. Oh I have to wait 7 days for the real answer. Aigoo....:D

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1 hour ago, katakwasabi said:

 

JW can like HJ's tears all he want, but him saying Sujin's tears right after her husband's sudden death as excuses is just reaching. Yura's tears are fake so i get it but Sujin's tears were not for him, it was for her husband. So i dont really understand his comparison. Huhu

 

Well, the implication of JW's voiceover with the flashback scenes of YR and Su Jin was that YR's tears are fake and that Su Jin's tears were shed as excuses so that she could play a victim as well. The flashback of YR was of her "standing by her husband" press show. The flashback of Su Jin crying was before HS had died when Su Jin was being defensive towards JW about leaving him all those years ago and how she and HS had suffered as well rather than being happy while JW only suffered from their betrayal. So, I think JW's cynical perspective towards those women's tears were fine. And, made his appreciation of HJ's sincerity that much stronger.

 

Btw, it was so satisfying when JW had the photos of YR and the manager fooling around while YR was supposed to be in the US taking care of JW sent to YR's manager with the clear dictum that it was time to finish the divorce. I was like "boo-yah". I'm ready for JW to be a single man again. :D

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Btw, at the start of the preview, when JW receives the message from the falcon, the game caption reads "the secret quest that the master has sent from Grenada". That's why JW is convinced that SJ is in Grenada and why he is going back.

 

 

1 hour ago, stargazer187 said:

I feel sad for him in this. Instead of telling this to her. He just let her know that he comes because he missed her. I want HJ to know this too. That he is sincerely thankful to her too. That he is not just a fraud CEO without conscience. 

 

I want HJ to know that as well, but I think JW is wise to take his time rather than dumping everything on HJ at a time when she is in such turmoil herself.

 

Speaking of unexpected, I also had thought that JW was running away when he left without saying a word to HJ and left her on the train platform crying. In the scene, originally, I was totally feeling HJ's pain. However, now hearing that JW had not been running away, rather that he had been making haste to Barcelona in order to try to find SJ, and that in the moment, JW had been sure that he would return to HJ with SJ, I felt so bad for JW. If I wasn't so absorbed in this drama, I might have felt emotionally manipulated by the story. As it is, it served to make me more sympathetic to both HJ and JW, and how the same things looked from their respective sides.

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I think Marco was on the train with Seju in episode 1..Look at the shirt wore by Marco..I think at that time he is already killed and became an NPC in the game..

 

 

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The scene of JinWoo on the roof of the school building, holding Bazooka looks alike weapon, shooting the Joseon's soldiers Whooaaaahh, very cool, and sexy !!:love:

No clip yet, but can someone make a gif from that scene hehehehe.

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Btw, is it just me that I found JW to be incredibly sexy even behind a sniper rifle? All of a sudden, I could imagine Hyun Bin being the sharpshooter Marine that he was when he was doing his service. :D 

 

edit: @PororoQueen, we both were moved to write similar notes about Binnie looking sexy as a shooter and posted at the same time! :lol:

 

 

@pattsue, good eye on Marco possibly already being dead and on the train, btw. I'm convinced. Though, now, I'm really curious to know how Marco died. I had thought that one had to die in the game to become an NPC post-death, but who knows. The interactions between the game and reality are still very, very murky.

 

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1 hour ago, katakwasabi said:

 

JW can like HJ's tears all he want, but him saying Sujin's tears right after her husband's sudden death as excuses is just reaching. Yura's tears are fake so i get it but Sujin's tears were not for him, it was for her husband. So i dont really understand his comparison. Huhu

Ofcourse that JW doesnt like seeing HJs tears.

While he was looking at HJ from the train, he was simply surprised that

someone can be honestly worried about him.

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15 hours ago, stroppyse said:

 

Well, the implication of JW's voiceover with the flashback scenes of YR and Su Jin was that YR's tears are fake and that Su Jin's tears were shed as excuses so that she could play a victim as well. The flashback of YR was of her "standing by her husband" press show. The flashback of Su Jin crying was before HS had died when Su Jin was being defensive towards JW about leaving him all those years ago and how she and HS had suffered as well rather than being happy while JW only suffered from their betrayal. So, I think JW's cynical perspective towards those women's tears were fine. And, made his appreciation of HJ's sincerity that much stronger.

 

Btw, it was so satisfying when JW had the photos of YR and the manager fooling around while YR was supposed to be in the US taking care of JW sent to YR's manager with the clear dictum that it was time to finish the divorce. I was like "boo-yah". I'm ready for JW to be a single man again. :D

Well said. 

Very nice explanation.

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2 hours ago, stroppyse said:

The flashback of Su Jin crying was before HS had died when Su Jin was being defensive towards JW about leaving him all those years ago and how she and HS had suffered as well rather than being happy while JW only suffered from their betrayal. So, I think JW's cynical perspective towards those women's tears were fine. And, made his appreciation of HJ's sincerity that much stronger.

 

That flashback of Sujin's scene was after Cha died. It was when JW came to visit her after Cha's death.

 

I guess from JW's perspective, all the women around him before deceived him or at least made him feel betrayed. When not playing the game, JW doesnt really emote, even in front of HJ his emotions are not really shown, he says things in a robotic manner. So us viewers are free to percieve how he feels however we like until the writer decides for JW to show more emotion in front of a human being. 

 

Edit: actually JW has moments where he show emotion when he's not playing or being haunted by Cha --> whenever he is with MJ. He somehow lights up when he's with her. Their relationship is cute.

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DRAMA: MEMORIES OF THE ALHAMBRA EP. 8

Original Article: [news1 korea] 'Memories Of The Alhambra' Park Shinhye Cries As Hyunbin Reveals Secret Behind The Hostel Purchase 

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1. +1267, -19 A close oppa is going to report it to the press... That's a little too much, that oppa's position is too vague 
2. +564, -14 I don't know why Go Yura's story matters;; Take it out
3.+441, -7 No matter how I see it, this drama is crazy... How could they make a drama like this.. I'm always shocked whenever I watch it. I respect how Korean dramas are developing..
4. +124, -2 Please that oppa that's like her own brother... He's an oppa that's 'like' her own brother, he's not even a part of her family and not her boyfriend too. Why do you keep butting in!!
5. +45, -1 Ah so fun.... Seriously the ending gave me a bit of goosebumps. Seriously fun
6.+33, -1 Wow..... Daebak ending... Crazy
7.+30, -1 Crazy drama... It's amazing seriously.. Gongbang oppa... Stop butting in and just go make guitars!!!!!!
 

Original Article: [osen] 'Memories Of The Alhambra' Hyunbin, To Park Shinhye "Chanyeol Is Alive, I Can Prove It"

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1. +2204, -16 Seriously Hyunbin is getting handsomer day by day...
2. +921, -14 Wow Hyunbin's voice is so freaking sweet... Even when they fought he sounded sweetㅠㅠㅠㅠ How can I wait until next weekㅠㅠ
3.+491, -4 Now I 100% understand why Hyunbin chose Memories Of The Alhambra. Melo, thriller, action, these are all the characters that Hyunbin has played. It completely shows Hyunbin's charms. Conclusion: Please don't rest for a few years and film a drama right awayㅠㅠ
4.+275, -3 Hyunbin is so pitiful, that's why he looks so happy when he's with Minjoo
5. +182, -2 The story is really fresh
6.+52, -0 When Hyunbin-ie said "I miss you" my heart fluttered ㅜㅜㅡㅜ
7.+44, -0 Hyunbin's voice is crazy ,,,,,,,,,
 
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