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[Drama 2018-2019] Memories of the Alhambra | Recuerdos de la Alhambra, 알함브라 궁전의 추억

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15 hours ago, siddy09 said:

IDK..but I can't say about how the game killed them in real life. Maybe that's where real world and AR world is merging..I have kind of accepted the theory that JW himself gave..that he killed CHS with his sword and the murder will remain mysterious to the real world because they can not see the game world. Lol..will anyone believe JW if the reason he gives for CHS death is a game duel which ended up in death. I suppose no, hence its a mysterious death. Though I am not sure why Prof.Cha talked about conducting a autopsy when they never intended to do so..I guess writer also wants us to believe JW's reasoning and put all other facts under the rug..-_-

 

I's hard to digest that as a father, Prof. Cha would just let the autopsy (for his own son) slide away just because he wants to protect his company or protect the image of JW.

 

It's hard to accept the concept of 3rd party involvement in the AR game (like sabotaging the other player) can kill a person. I mean, virtually fighting in the game... your character can die but your not your body, right?? - :unsure: Yet, physically SeJoo's body disappear?

 

Just because Kdrama can be full of surprises - I want to suspect CHS's wife - SuJin. There are scenes where SJ cries in front of her father in law/ in front of JW or while CHS and SJ fight - throwing wine on the wall - Even when CHS questioned her about the accidental meeting of SJ and JW, SuJin got too emotional . Is SJ under stress with JW during her first marriage or CHS also abuse her emotionally? Pregnancy blues? Does SJ hate JW? We don't know the real reason SJ left JW for CHS .

Did something happened before the duel CHS with SJ. Could SuJin followed CHS that night ... or her subordinate or ....Marco physically came after the duel?

I'm still thinking about Overdose/Poisoning tho.

 

* Only Park Sun Ho believes that JW some kind of guilty of CHS death after witnessing JW's threat towards CHS.

 

But,.... if this drama is about an AR game, or W type of fantasy drama,  I have to wait for the return of SeJoo's Factor X or Mr X villain explanation patiently.

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1 hour ago, PororoQueen said:

 

I's hard to digest that as a father, Prof. Cha would just let the autopsy (for his own son) slide away just because he wants to protect his company or protect the image of JW.

 

 

Could it be that Dr. CHS is not tge real son of The Prof? Why did the 2nd wife of JW taunt the prof with it?

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Wow... what a novel approach to thinking about guilt, personal demons, second/third chances, and addiction. I can see the fingerprints of Nine's writer in this and resonances of Nine's big themes in this. I have no idea as to the mechanics of why CHS died in the real world... and keep making his appearance as the undead... I have a few theories...  But thematically it feels like the game is a place in which players come to grips with their own insecurities, their emotional baggage and their past sins. Gaming is addictive not only because the player is made to feel that they have something to prove but it creates a world anyone who perseveres enough can be a hero of their own making. It isn't just escapism... it's about egoism too. Control and lack of control. That's why it's so powerful and stirs up deep emotions.

 

The exchange between CHS and JW was very telling as they faced off and duelled off. (Reminded me in part of my Monkey Island days... I'm not much of a gamer anymore. Usually I'm nagging at others to turn off these days.) A bit of trash talk mixed in with genuine anger. So much unresolved tension lying thickly between them that you could cut it with one of those fancy swords they were brandishing. Betrayal, adultery... was it so simple? Probably not. But inexcusable nonetheless. I don't think any of the parties involved was innocent. The game could have been a great opportunity for the two men to clear the air,  but that requires a lot more humility than either of them were prepared to show. I tend to think that CHS continued appearance is less a glitch in the server than something symbolic of regret and guilt. A ghost from the past and an unresolved issue that keep surfacing because the victory is pyrrhic. Because destroying your opponent doesn't really deal with why two people who were besties became rivals in the first place.

 

It isn't that YJW lacks self-awareness. He has it in cynical cavalier fashion. Which hides his vulnerable side. The charm of YJW lies in his blunt, arrogant honesty and his ability to take as much as he dishes out. For me at least. I believed it when CHS said that he was a terrible husband. I don't doubt it. But he has his good qualities too. He certainly didn't need to give HJ ten billion won but he did partly he saw the value of the merchandise. I'm sure HJ would have parted with the hostel for much less than that. Even in her ignorance of what her brother was up to, JW did the right thing by her. Of course, JW isn't entirely forthcoming but if he were really evil CEO of Big Corporate, he wouldn't have made such a handsome offer. When he wants to be sweet, he can be but when he feels like it, his sharp tongue gives sway.

 

It's nice to see the female lead catch a break this early in the piece. Hope it lasts. I don't think I've ever seen PSH in anything before. Not normally a fan of her drama choices. But she's a nice foil to HB's JW. I wondered while watching Episodes 3 and 4 if her brother created the game to help her rediscover her dream and find romance. With the "winner" perhaps? ;)

 

 

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2 hours ago, PororoQueen said:

 

I's hard to digest that as a father, Prof. Cha would just let the autopsy (for his own son) slide away just because he wants to protect his company or protect the image of JW.

 

It's hard to accept the concept of 3rd party involvement in the AR game (like sabotaging the other player) can kill a person. I mean, virtually fighting in the game... your character can die but your not your body, right?? - :unsure: Yet, physically SeJoo's body disappear?

 

Just because Kdrama can be full of surprises - I want to suspect CHS's wife - SuJin. There are scenes where SJ cries in front of her father in law/ in front of JW or while CHS and SJ fight - throwing wine on the wall - Even when CHS questioned her about the accidental meeting of SJ and JW, SuJin got too emotional . Is SJ under stress with JW during her first marriage or CHS also abuse her emotionally? Pregnancy blues? Does SJ hate JW? We don't know the real reason SJ left JW for CHS .

Did something happened before the duel CHS with SJ. Could SuJin followed CHS that night ... or her subordinate or ....Marco physically came after the duel?

I'm still thinking about Overdose/Poisoning tho.

 

* Only Park Sun Ho believes that JW some kind of guilty of CHS death after witnessing JW's threat towards CHS.

 

But,.... if this drama is about an AR game, or W type of fantasy drama,  I have to wait for the return of SeJoo's Factor X or Mr X villain explanation patiently.

dieing is perfectly explainable only if they don't put this bleeding angle to it..

- suicide , heart attack - both work

- there was this game in news a few years back and was driving its players to commit suicide and real life violence (sthg BLUE.. can't recollect), and ofcourse you can always link electric signals from AR devices killing people

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20 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

 

It's nice to see the female lead catch a break this early in the piece. Hope it lasts

you seem so happy with this? you come here just to especially to make this comment, right? you terrible person. 

 

20 minutes ago, 40somethingahjumma said:

she's a nice foil to HB's JW

I know you are not her fan. but can you respect her? she a person. not somekind object. I don't like you use word " nice foil" for her. Please learn to respect a personm And respect & appreciate her hard work. 

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 :kiss_wink:

Wow Today's episode is special

I was thinking if SJ asking help of his sister HJ through JW I mean ; why SJ call JW at the midnight and tell him meet me at hotel and at the same time he chased by someone in the game and the possibility of coming back is less than 5% ,did he want JW to  tell HJ about SJ  call and the game may she can do something   . It is just thinking ^_^

To @40somethingahjumma you are woman right ! So be respectful seriously  bcz she is a park shin hye that you don't like you have to ignore rather than to be rude and disrespectful.

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12 minutes ago, NileRose said:

@40somethingahjumma you are woman right ! So be respectful seriously  bcz she is a park shin hye that you don't like you have to ignore rather than to be rude and disrespectful.

Agree with this:thumbsup:

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anneyong chagiya dheul.... 

 

just finished watching episode 6 (for the 3rd time)

 

uri poor CEO... when I watched ep 1 with him a year after.. on that train with those dirty and bulky sneakers.. I was like.. how in the world he ended up like this? even a year after... he still play that Hunger Game on a train to Granada... why must he comes back there? what will happen later? so so many questions I have in mind.... to the point that I give up and will just wait and see where the Chaka nim will bring us.... 

 

this roller coaster of a nerve wrecking and mind bulging kdrama ride is overwhelming.. Hyun Bin who won best actor back in Secret Garden golden era.. can really portray and embodies such a damsel in distress Yoo Jin Woo.. the expressions.. eyes gazing... the uneven breathing.. the terrifying moments that he could lose his life in any second.. and still nobody would understand why.. Hyun Bin nailed this role... much much better than in his last drama flick (you know what I mean right.. but the drama gave us many sweet kisses hehehehe) 

 

so far this is Hyun Bin’s best role after Kim Joo Won.. a clausterphobic. 

 

I hope... Jung Hee Joo will be Yoo Jin Woo’s lucky charm.. the man suffers so much.. all his money and wealth means basically nothing now... I hope Hee Joo will stay by his side and save him.. ( and please divorce that kkeot baem beeetch actress ASAP ) 

 

Park Shin Hye is one of the most loveliest natural beauty OMG I admire her so much... I like her reality show where she is actually a Master Chef.. . and I went to her family’s Yangchulbuk restaurant in Seoul..  it was masshi sso! if you like to eat inners and organs hehehehe....

 

can’t wait for the next episode... michigetaaaa...... 

 

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Viewers always notice when the hero levels up because the signs are visible. For instance, once JinWoo reached Level 5, the audience immediately took note that he could finally communicate with both the pirates (or mercenaries) and Emma in that Alcazaba Café.

 

But I doubt the audience even noticed when the heroine HeeJoo leveled up.

 

To me, she’s in Level 2. :blink::lol:

 

It has something to do with the clock. Did you notice them? It always strikes 1:16 am.

 

From Episode 1

 

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The news on TV is droning about the success of JOne at a recent tech show but she's oblivious to it as she sleeps. Doorbell chimes. She wakes up and glances at the clock then goes back to sleep. But doorbell rings again so she goes to the door wondering who it can be. She opens the door and he asks, “Did I come too late?” at the lateness of the hour. She asks in return, “How can I help you?” And he replies, “Do you have any available rooms?” Then the church bells toll.

 

From Episode 5

 

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She’s sorting through her office materials. Phone chimes. She glances at the clock. She answers the phone, “Hola” and she hears, “Is this Hostal Bonita?” in Spanish. The caller orders her to get JinWoo. She resists at first but yields after finding out that the caller’s the wife.

 

See that?

 

In the first episode, it was the doorbell that chimed to announce the beginning of her involvement in the game. In the second episode, it was the phone call from the Wife that signaled her "leveling up."  Both times, it was 1:16 am.

 

At the first encounter, she was given the opportunity to say no and close the door on JinWoo. But it seemed like she was caught in a trance and she allowed him in.

 

And I thought that the church bell tolling in the distance was ominous. You see, church bells are rung NOT ONLY to indicate the HOUR (besides at 1:16am, the church bell had no business ringing the HOUR anyway, because it was late by 16 minutes. Ha!) but ALSO announce the DEATH of somebody. That's why we have the term "death knell" and the famous poem by John Donne that goes, "any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."

 

The tradition of ringing the bell is said to drive out the devils hovering and prowling around the area to take control over the soul of the newly deceased.

 

So, here in this kdrama when the church bell tolled, I took it to mean that her brother was "dead" but there was the devil, in the form of JinWoo, lurking around to take over his "soul" or his creative and INTELLECTUAL property, the AR game.

 

And true enough, JinWoo's smile as he and HeeJoo gazed at each other looked charmingly devilish to me. lol.

 

As for the second instance the clock showed 1:16am, I explained it in my blog. Just go over there if you want to read; I don't want to bore people here longer than necessary. 

 

source:  http://bitchesoverdramas.com/2018/12/21/memories-of-the-alhambra-on-heejoos-leveling-up

 

 

 

 

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I love how versatile Memories of the Alhambra is. It has a perfect mix of comedy action suspense thriller horror melo and romance :wub:A big applause to MOA team for delivering first rate production, incredible first 6 episodes. All the casts did a great job. Hyun Bin deserves a special mention for his absolutely stellar role to date. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

Yay! Another exciting week for us. More question than clues as always :P :crazy:

Ep6 ending signifies a transition...location and plot wise.

One thing stood out to me, Heejoo was compelled by her strong feelings for Jinwoo to do that crazy chase stunt. And it's a lovely sight, knowing someone cares that way towards our poor, lost and afraid Jinwoo :wub::wub:

Shinhye & HyunBin's have awesome chemistry! I just can't, aish! 

 

I couldn't even afford to think someone else's feelings. However... - Yoo Jinwoo

 

[FMV]

 

 

cr: immelodyxx & 공쏘

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56 minutes ago, rori0711 said:

I love how versatile Memories of the Alhambra is. It has a perfect mix of comedy action suspense thriller horror melo and romance :wub:A big applause to MOA team for delivering first rate production, incredible first 6 episodes. All the casts did a great job. Hyun Bin deserves a special mention for his absolutely stellar role to date. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

Yay! Another exciting week for us. More question than clues as always :P :crazy:

Ep6 ending signifies a transition...location and plot wise.

One thing stood out to me, Heejoo was compelled by her strong feelings for Jinwoo to do that crazy chasing stunt. And it's a lovely sight, knowing someone cares that way towards our poor, lost and afraid Jinwoo :wub::wub:

Shinhye & HyunBin's have awesome chemistry! I just can't, aish! 

 

I couldn't even afford to think someone else's feelings. However... - Yoo Jinwoo

 

 

Hi there, rori0711. Sorry I wasn't able to respond earlier. Time is my enemy and I can't blog and post on soompi at the same time. :)


I agree all the actors are doing a fine job. They’re doing what they have to do. It’s a succinct script and tight directing. No complaints from me...well, except a recapping. :)  I think a recapper got it WRONG and somebody should alert her for corrections. You see, the Non-Player Character HyungSik does NOT have the ability to open doors. During that encounter in the Armas weaponry shop (by the way, Armas means weapon or firearms in Spanish), it was JInWoo who opened the door for HyungSik. HyungSik didn't open it himself.

 

I wish I can take a screenshot of JW turning the door knob but I'm pressed for time right now. 

 

JW was hiding behind the door and he wanted HS to enter so he could stab him in the back (I know, I know. It’s a metaphor of their relationship. JW was repaying HS in kind for what HS did to him when HS stole his wife.)

 

That’s why in their next meeting in the bathroom, JW was left unscathed. HS couldn't attack because the shower stall door was closed. JW KNEW that. Hence, he was hiding in shower stall. :D

 

HS didn’t disappear because he was moved by JW’s speech. He disappeared because the game was delayed after the 60 seconds pause.

 

Also, during JW's first encounter with the NPC HyungSik (right after he checked out the park bench where he last saw HS), the NPC HS only materialized after JW stepped out of the police barricade tape. It seems to me that any enclosed space will do as his "panic room."  :) And he has to open the door himself or step out of his confinement or boundaries. 

 

A year later, he was still the one opening the door to trouble aboard the train. 

 

 

 

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