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[Drama 2018-2019] Memories of the Alhambra | Recuerdos de la Alhambra, 알함브라 궁전의 추억

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@Kasmic Omg! Your post had me LMAO at work :joy::joy: especially the crossing street one! Once I’m off work, will be back to join you all ;)

 

@kaoriharang dongseng!! So happy to see you here! 

 

Keep the votes coming in :) I will help keep track of polls too. Remember that this is just for fun. Anyone can join and even if you don’t, it is alright too ;) 

 

 

 

 

 

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@Kasmic LMAOOOOO I'm cracking up! Chanyeol (Se Joo) instead to give us that evil grin how about you back to home soon so my Zinu and Hee Joo can get married.

 

also this is my vote:

Poll No 1 - No

Poll No 2 - Se Joo

 

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12 hours ago, siddy09 said:

 

 

Not the game but Jin Woo is suffering from a psychological condition.  

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I am aware that a few of our friends on this thread have repeatedly hinted towards this possibility since the very beginning of the drama. Jin Woo has often been called as cuckoo, bonkers, nutcase. I was one of those who believed that there is someone out there who is adamantly against Jin Woo causing upheaval in his life . But now I am more inclining towards a psychological  explanation of game and Jin Woo's condition. There are some members here who pointed towards hallucinations. Hallucinations are merely symptoms, symptoms of a much more severe psychological condition. I have actually opted for Psychology as one of my optional subjects in my bachelors program and if I were to diagnose Jin Woo, I would probably diagnose his condition as Paranoid Schizophrenia. 

This is one kind of schizophrenia that is extremely hard to detect as it is marked by extreme suspiciousness and complex delusions. People with paranoid schizophrenia may believe themselves to be Napoleon or Virgin Mary, or my insist that Russian spies with laser guns are constantly on their trail. Have you guys seen the Hollywood movie called 'A Beautiful Mind'; that movie was a classic example of such kind of schizophrenia. That person actually discovered 'game theory' while having constant hallucinations. These people can appear more 'normal' than act incoherent or 'crazy' if their delusions are compatible with daily life. However,  they become hostile or aggressive towards anyone who contradicts their delusions and would probably go to any lengths to prove that they are NOT delusional. 

 

I can now understand why it was not easy to detect Jin Woo's condition even for a Psychology student like me because;

-don't forget that we are still watching this show from Jin Woo's perspective; we are listening only  to what HE wants to tell us

-the writer has cleverly rather smartly encapsulated the psychological condition into this Augmented Reality game(AR is almost like hallucination)

 

I know it's hard to believe but this is one those explanations that has been right in front of our eyes since the very beginning but we have turned a blind eye towards it. People like KSB, police men, Prof. Cha, unfit medical reports all have repeatedly pointed towards this. Also, it has been mentioned several times that there is nothing wrong with the game through all those programming tests. It's only Jin Woo reported that the game is going haywire. And like I said before, such person would not admit that that she/he is being delusional, and would need constant re-assurances; first Seo and now HeeJu are his reassurances that he is not delusional.  Social/occupational dysfunction is another characteristic symptom of schizophrenia and this would explain why some of us have pointed towards the erratic behaviour changes in Jin Woo.

 

What if he was always the 'wolf' that gobbled up everything around him including the little red ridding princess?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My short answer is NO. :)

 

I’ve considered that angle, too, because Jinwoo can be an unreliable narrator. But the recent developments in the story would attest to his sanity.

 

If we deem Jinwoo crazy because he sees this hallucination of HyunSuk,
then Sec Seo is also crazy because he saw and fought the bloody HyunSuk, and
Professor Cha is also crazy because he finally saw what’s been tormenting JinWoo daily for the past year.

 

But we know that craziness isn’t contagious. Jinwoo, Sec Seo and Professor Cha didn’t catch it from each other.

 

They also didn’t collude to become crazy together. Sec Seo and Professor Cha didn’t WANT to be crazy like Jinwoo and see the hallucinations like he did.

 

And Sec Seo said, "He hasn't changed." He meant that Jinwoo remained the same man that he was before he started seeing these crazy hallucinations. That is, Jinwoo was sane and reasonable BEFORE the hallucinations, and he was still sane and reasonable AFTER the hallucinations.

 

Now, I'd give more credence to Sec Seo's words and judgment since he personally knew the guy than I would the opinions of third parties like SangBeom and the traffic police.  THEY weren't qualified to assess Jinwoo's state of mind. 

 

more here: https://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/01/09/memories-of-the-alhambra-episode-12-notes

 

 

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@Kasmic I will admit, when HJ was crossing the street, I was also holding my breath for any sudden appearance of the truck of doom.  :sweatingbullets:

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25 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:

@Kasmic I will admit, when HJ was crossing the street, I was also holding my breath for any sudden appearance of the truck of doom.  :sweatingbullets:

oh ME TWO! 

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8 hours ago, Kasmic said:

Hola! Im so glad I have many interested in the poll. Let's start, I want a flood of zombies to haunt this forum :w00t: 

Let's have 2 polls going :D Thanx @vangsweetie637 for the ideas 

 

Poll question 1 : Will He Joo be apart of the game? Yes or No? Choose one answer and sorry no changes allowed. Make your wise choice. Polls starts now and will end before each episode is aired live. It will reopen after each episode and only if the answer isnt revealed.

 

Poll question 2 : Who is the final key to solve the "Alhambra" game error? Is it SJ, JW or HJ? Choose one character and sorry no changes allowed. Make your wise choice. Polls starts now and will end before each episode is aired live. It will reopen after each episode and only if the answer isnt revealed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

1: YES. 

2. Hee Joo.  (Writernim will always have the female character to be the key to save mankind haha)

 

 

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@Kasmic  thanks for inviting me for the polls.

It does sounds fun!

 

I have only just started watching this and at episode 3 only (though I have read the recaps up to date)..  but I will not take part in the poll since I'm scared of zombies. :lol:

 

Honestly, I like the idea of the AR "game play" but the goal of the game is not explained here right? 

Having read the recaps, it's very frustrating that NPCs are just attacking without provocation and it's rather exhausting for a player to just keep fighting. 

 

And I think I am the only one here who don't really ship the couple as I just find it weird. ;)

I procrastinated watching the drama because i don't really like the female lead and eventually gave in for the AR story plot and Hyun Bin.

 

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@Kasmic nice! That meme is the best!!! :lol: "an enemy has appeared" yes, they're like enemies and I feel always anxious whenever they pull me over the street. I would ask myself, do I forget to bring my licence card or I hope I don't forget to carry it.

 

Yup, that's my question as well. It led me to think that it was programmed to go after him or did I miss some details before or did it go beyond our predictions? Whatever it is, let's hope for it to got revealed more soon. 

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@Kasmic  i would like to join the poll but i just changed my avatar to bunny-hyuk~ i don't want to change it yet. Hahahahaha. I'll give my answers in the spoiler tab cause i want to join in on the fun too~ :lol:

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1. Yes (maybe as a bystander only and not totally active, but she will wear the lenses)

 

2. JW. He will learn what is wrong with the game an fix it! All the best JW!

 

 

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@Kasmic 

 

Thanks for tagging but I loved my dimpled Binnie DP..that said I will still uphold the spirit of the game and if I lose, I will put a zombie avatar.^_^

So my answer..

Poll 1: No she will not play the game(it's too late)

Poll 2: I think JW will find the key to the game mystery..

 

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@Kasmic 

If i right one answer and get wrong one answer. What should I do ?

Should i change half profile :P.haha.By the way hj will wear lens but she will not play.I am dead sure.

 

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3 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

@Kasmic I will admit, when HJ was crossing the street, I was also holding my breath for any sudden appearance of the truck of doom.  :sweatingbullets:

 

2 hours ago, deluluishealthy said:

oh ME TWO! 

 

1 hour ago, hyuuhikari said:

ME ME THREE:D

Here I thought I was the weirdo being the only one who thought..."No, dont run/ cross the road. Have you not watch any Kdrama" Thank heavens it didnt happen. Though I wonder if it was JW whom crossed the road and the server was on 

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2 hours ago, mrsj3n said:

@Kasmic  thanks for inviting me for the polls.

It does sounds fun!

 

I have only just started watching this and at episode 3 only (though I have read the recaps up to date)..  but I will not take part in the poll since I'm scared of zombies. :lol:

 

Honestly, I like the idea of the AR "game play" but the goal of the game is not explained here right? 

Having read the recaps, it's very frustrating that NPCs are just attacking without provocation and it's rather exhausting for a player to just keep fighting. 

 

And I think I am the only one here who don't really ship the couple as I just find it weird. ;)

I procrastinated watching the drama because i don't really like the female lead and eventually gave in for the AR story plot and Hyun Bin.

 

Ep 3 only? Okies I now understand why you cannot participate in the polls. Word of advice, dont procrastinate anymore (thats for housechores)  -- we've only got 4 eps thats 2 weeks left. Try to catch up on the viewing, it's so much better than reading the recaps or watching the spoilers ;) I admit I did felt that the kiss would be rushed but when you watch it altogether and given the context you most likely wont feel weird out.... just my thought but it may differ for you. :tounge_wink:

 

35 minutes ago, katakwasabi said:

@Kasmic  i would like to join the poll but i just changed my avatar to bunny-hyuk~ i don't want to change it yet. Hahahahaha. I'll give my answers in the spoiler tab cause i want to join in on the fun too~ :lol:

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1. Yes (maybe as a bystander only and not totally active, but she will wear the lenses)

 

2. JW. He will learn what is wrong with the game an fix it! All the best JW!

 

 

I love your bunny hyuk...Im kind of in a love and hate relationship with him and Im at war with myself to watch the LE. 

 

Reading this article with google translate.... Oh no looks like I need to prepare my zombie ava by the end of this week  https://entertain.naver.com/read?oid=076&aid=0003366949

 

What did I just read??? :joy:

 

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1 hour ago, vinhnguyen said:

@Kasmic my vote:

Poll 1: Yes

poll 2: JW and HJ

Sorry chingu only one choice for poll 2 - JW or HJ? Which one would you like to lock in? 

 

34 minutes ago, kilumar said:

@Kasmic 

If i right one answer and get wrong one answer. What should I do ?

Should i change half profile :P.haha.By the way hj will wear lens but she will not play.I am dead sure.

 

HAHAHA! I havent thought of that. But I know poll one's answer has been leaked and we will see the confirmation this weekend. As for poll 2 I think that might be longer. So victory or zombie ava still remains for 1 week. zombi-smiley.gif?1292867706yay-smiley.gif?1292867704zombi-smiley.gif?1292867706yay-smiley.gif?1292867704zombi-smiley.gif?1292867706yay-smiley.gif?1292867704zombi-smiley.gif?1292867706

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4 hours ago, packmule3 said:

 

My short answer is NO. :)

 

I’ve considered that angle, too, because Jinwoo can be an unreliable narrator. But the recent developments in the story would attest to his sanity.

 

If we deem Jinwoo crazy because he sees this hallucination of HyunSuk,
then Sec Seo is also crazy because he saw and fought the bloody HyunSuk, and
Professor Cha is also crazy because he finally saw what’s been tormenting JinWoo daily for the past year.

 

But we know that craziness isn’t contagious. Jinwoo, Sec Seo and Professor Cha didn’t catch it from each other.

 

They also didn’t collude to become crazy together. Sec Seo and Professor Cha didn’t WANT to be crazy like Jinwoo and see the hallucinations like he did.

 

And Sec Seo said, "He hasn't changed." He meant that Jinwoo remained the same man that he was before he started seeing these crazy hallucinations. That is, Jinwoo was sane and reasonable BEFORE the hallucinations, and he was still sane and reasonable AFTER the hallucinations.

 

Now, I'd give more credence to Sec Seo's words and judgment since he personally knew the guy than I would the opinions of third parties like SangBeom and the traffic police.  THEY weren't qualified to assess Jinwoo's state of mind. 

 

more here: https://bitchesoverdramas.com/2019/01/09/memories-of-the-alhambra-episode-12-notes

 

 

Hey, 

I am glad that you posted a counter possibility. Also, you are right, drama characters should not be diagnosed, I think I went overboard with that.:unsure: We will suffice with the words crazy and hallucinations.

It did cross my mind that Secretary Seo was the only one who who testified for Jin Woo's sanity when Jin Woo was NOT around that is, he admitted in front of Director Park- a third person. The scene with Prof.Cha in episode 12 is a tricky one because that scene is still shown from Jin Woo's perspective and we know that he can be an unreliable narrator. Hence, the only person who actually vouched for his sanity is HIS own friend/brother/Secretary/ally Seo. And he is dead now! 

The only difference in our views is that, you are giving credence to Seo's testimony whereas I am doubting that now. If I am not trusting Jin Woo's narration, then should I trust his friend's narration too??

 

But I am still open to the game being being flawed theory. Because for the longest amount of time, I was one of those who believed that the game has bugs or is being manipulated by someone. I can understand that Jin Woo being crazy is a dangerous territory and not easily acceptable too, even for me. But as long as any theory answers my questions, I can happily accept it. Cheers and your posts are always an insightful read.:)

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