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[Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] Here to Heart 温暖的弦

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UGH.  Congrats, Yi Xin.  Within the first 3 minutes you have me reaching for the laptop so I can, once again, live recap my reactions.  :lol:

 

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- Dear Yi Xin: When you say that "right now" his eyes and heart are filled with someone else, surely you must have known, it's not right now.  It's always.  His eyes, heart, mind, ears, the list of body parts goes on, have always been filled with one person, and that person is not you.  It will also never be you.  So please for the love of all that's holy and good: MOVE ON.

 

- Wow.  Pan Wei Ning.  You're so weaselly I normally don't like you, but right now?  Your words of harsh reality to Yi Xin.  You're actually being logical and making sense!  If only you actually held some sway over her and she listened to you . . .

 

- Okay, I spoke to soon.  Then you went and tried to kiss her.  That was not cool.  Even from my non-loving-Yi-Xin perspective.

 

- You know what, forget all that I said above about Pan Wei Ning.  I'm just going to say instead that they both need help.  That is all.   Can we get back to Nan Xian and Wen Nuan now, please?

 

- Ask and you shall receive!  LOL!  The way he ran for his turtles . . . adorbs! 

 

- I found an incorrect translation in the Viki subs.  It says Nan Xian asks his turtles, "Do you two think that I don't have any interest in you?"  But what he really asks is, "Do you think that I'm not very bright?"  (As in not having any prospects/future.  Gah, I struggle to find English meanings for certain words sometimes.) 

 

- You know, Wen Nuan should gift him with one of her (many) paintings/drawings of him.  It's something he lacks and I bet he'd LOVE it.

 

- OMG, he tripped coming out of the elevators.  LOL. Oh, you lovesick fool.  With your buns in hand.  :D 

 

- Just tell her, "No, you can't have the little pig buns!!!"

 

- Wow.  That look he shoots Wen Nuan as he walks away from Xiao Dai's desk.  I love the subtle expressions here and there.  It's keeping me on my toes because if i blink, I just know I'll miss something.

 

- Du Xin Tong's boyfriend is way too nice.  And Du Xin Tong . . . you make no sense.  You recognize and honor your boyfriend's talents, but through your own greed, you threw it all away.  And now you're going to feel dissatisfied on his behalf when this is all your own making?!  But at least you do recognize that you were too greedy and vengeful.  Now if you would just let things go and instead focus on becoming a better person!  Unfortunately, I don't think this will be the last wee see of you.

 

- Zhu Lin Lu: Friend-zoned before he even had a chance to confess to her!

 

- I liked Pan Wei Ning better when he was trying to talk sense into Yi Xin.  I hate when he encourages her towards her attachment towards Nan Xian.  Sigh.

 

- Haha, nice!  I don't always approve of Wen Rou and her hot-headed temperament but watching her go up against that annoying cousin of Zhu Lu Lin's is pretty great.

 

 

Episode 13 done!  Final thoughts: Not enough of Nan Xian and Wen Rou.

 

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5 minutes ago, jadore1 said:

I just saw 17/18 raw ..so i need subs to understand everything; however, I  have to admire WN for having guts to come back and come back as NX's assistant . Based on the agony of their break up and his total devastation ...what has changed in 7 years to change that and allow her to come back now i wonder ...i know , i know ..thats why the drama is 36 or is it 38 episodes lol to answer our questions,  but my god some kind of explanation was needed ...i trust you our beautiful WN and i hope you did not do anything stupid because right now i admire him from not hounding you even more. 

 

Perhaps she and her doctor thought she was strong enough now to go back and face her past in order to find her old self. Even if it doesn’t work out at least maybe this time around she could properly put an end to the weight of her past. I think they hoped the best outcome would be that she could go back to his side/reconcile with him. However, you are right...I too wonder what changed now to make it okay for her to believe she could go back to him.

 

4 minutes ago, cheeriekwan said:

I rewatch the confrontation :bawling:

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The confrontation in front of WN's house is really sad. NX walked off thinking she left him for ZLL. To WN - you already have Yixin, why asking this? ZLL- you always been crying for him, 7 years ago and now.

 

That explains the flashback. It’s kind of frustrating to see them hurting each other when honesty would clear up a lot of this confusion. For starters, he is not dating Yi Xin and she is not dating Lin Lu. Just resolving this misunderstanding alone would be less baggage.

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OMG. This drama is so intense! Just found it and watched the first 5 episodes. And Zhang Han's voice is so perfect for the song, 如果没有你. Just listening it and I love everything about this series. This is the first time I looked at the total episodes (35) and thought, It's NOT enough. So many questions to answer.

 

I was so-so with Janine's acting, but for this series, she's perfect. I can feel her heart is breaking when she steals small glances at him. Just wonder if he see her heartaches. I'm praying for a happy ending!

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Xiao Dai  She is a sweet girl but has no manners. I think she needs to mature a bit because she kinda takes advantage of people without realizing. Like the bun incident. She didn’t even wait to be given it she took one and then went for the rest. She then doesn’t even offer it to the person she took it from. Poor Wen Nuan still doesn’t know how to say NO still. I hope by the end of this drama she does. 

 

 

 

Question to mandarin speakers is miscarriage a better term from abortion.

Did Tong Tong lie to her boyfriend? She is a lucky woman to get such an awesome nice guy. She isn’t a good person and I  sometimes wonder how does people like her get so lucky and attract the really good guys. Smh smh 

 

 

 

Director Xiao Pan 

I find this character annoying because I felt he forced himself on YiXin’s life. At times I felt he tried to paint Nan Xian in a bad light. He hardly knows Nan Xian and he chooses to judge him when he does know what their relationship is really like. I will never like this character. I think he is obsessed with Yi Xin it isn’t love.

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WTF is wrong with that actress & bitter *****?! One has a one-sided crush on Nan Xian for 7 YEARS. If a guy hasn't done anything to you in 7 YEARS, move along missy (I'm side eyeing you too Lin Lu)<_<. Same with the bitter ***** there's a reason why you were overlooked for the P.A position, despite being loyal to the company for so long! Dear GOD these women pose a threat to my health:crazy::rolleyes::tongue:

Thank goodness Wen Nuan had the sense not to go along with her request.

 

LMFAo:lol::w00t: at the Manager when it was revealed that the bitter ***** had an abortion, hence faked her "miscarriage". His:- "Have you been watching a LOT of historical dramas on royal harems?!:lol::w00t:

 

Why do I feel there's a noona-dongsaeng type romance blooming between Wen Rou & her boy P.A? I just knew he was going to be her P.A after their restaurant encounter - so predictable. I think she & Lin Lu would be a better fit though...  The scene where Nan Xian came to rescue Wen Nuan from that bitter ***** reminds me of Boss & Me:D

 

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14 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

Question to mandarin speakers is miscarriage a better term from abortion.

 

It's the same phrase (liu chan)  for both meanings, so one's understanding of whether a person means 'miscarriage' or 'abortion', depends on the context in which the word is used. 

 

Here, when the HR director was asking Du Xin Tong about the first incident, she said that there were coworkers could testify that several months earlier she'd undergone a "liu chan shou shu."  Shou shu means operation.  Hence, in this context it's an abortion. 

 

But for the second incident, she's been telling people that because Wen Nuan pushed her, she had a "liu chan."  In this context, it's a miscarriage.

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Finished watching Ep 16.  As I stated yesterday, when I peaked ahead: INTENSE.

 

I also appreciate that, it appears from this episode forward, the end credit song has been switched to Zhang Han's "Without You."  It's perfect. 

 

I really think WN and NX need to take communication lessons from Guan Ti and Xiao Dai.  So many needless misunderstandings if only they didn't let their insecurities, pride, and jealousy get in the way.  Sigh. 

 

Since I'm not going to be around tomorrow evening, I'm off to watch 17/18 without subs.  :)

 

3 hours ago, thephamle said:

Watch it under the dining table while pretending you are listening lol

 

LOL, that would certainly make for an interesting image at the restaurant.  "Don't mind me, just picking up a dropped fork!"  :D 

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@UnniSarah

I'm not a mandarin speaker but my understanding of it is, that bitter ***** lied to her husband that she "miscarried". When the truth is she aborted the baby first. And I agree it baffles me too how life can be so unfair sometimes... I think perhaps her husband saw something in Xin Tong that the rest of us aren't "seeing" like maybe, she's a better person just in his presence? If that made sense. 

I laugh at subs calling Xiao Pan as Little Pan:w00t: I know it's a literal translation but it comes off...weird. 

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This drama really got us hooked like rushing home to watch the new episodes and peeking on this thread to share our thoughts :tongue: Glad that they have new releases every day :D

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52 minutes ago, themarchioness said:

 

It's the same phrase (liu chan)  for both meanings, so one's understanding of whether a person means 'miscarriage' or 'abortion', depends on the context in which the word is used. 

 

Here, when the HR director was asking Du Xin Tong about the first incident, she said that there were coworkers could testify that several months earlier she'd undergone a "liu chan shou shu."  Shou shu means operation.  Hence, in this context it's an abortion. 

 

But for the second incident, she's been telling people that because Wen Nuan pushed her, she had a "liu chan."  In this context, it's a miscarriage.

Thank for answering my questions@themarchioness. Have fun with your friends. 

 

@Latte_Anyday.... I had the same thoughts. Your POV is so on point. YiXin is obsessed with NX and when will she face reality. She knows how painful his memories are of WN and yet she tries to hurt her. I do believe she knows he will protect WN if he can because he is still IN LOVE WITH WEN NUAN. Smh smh 

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Wow.  Yi Xin and her ability to lie without batting an eye will never fail to impress.  I was amazed her nose hadn't reached the door of the restaurant with all the lies she spouted at Wen Nuan.  But I was proud of Wen Nuan.  Even though she was obviously shaken by the lies she heard from Yi Xin, she still tried her best to pretend like it was no big deal and she wasn't the least bit bothered.  I loved that she got in her own little jab at the end when she pointed out that the truest of loves wasn't something that you needed to flash around for the world to see.  You go girl!  Now, if only you had more confidence in your and Nan Xian's love . . .sigh.

 

As for Nan Xian, I do understand where he's coming from -- particularly after he explained his history with Yi Xin in Episode 16 -- and I actually appreciate that he's never one to rush to judgement.  But I think he's presuming too much in not communicating with Wen Nuan.  Having said that, I think he's also holding himself back because he still doesn't know why Wen Nuan broke up with him. 

 

It's a rough situation these two are in, and mostly, I'm just missing the state of happiness they'd reached before all this stuff.  How did we get here?  Weren't we just a few episodes ago gawking at Wen Nuan when he went to Nan Xian's house when he was sick????  Sigh. 

 

I'm fearful too that Nan Xian will now start thinking strange things as well now that Du Xin Ton's boyfriend has gone to work for Dai Zhong.  He surely knows Wen Nuan had a hand in this.  Is he going to get all jealous too?  Gah, I just want these two to TALK.

 

As for Wen Rou, the drama steps up her love line in this episode with the rock concert at the end.  I'm still sad that she and Zhu Lin Lu can't make a go of it.  And I'm not just saying that because if they got together, that would make things super easy and clear the path for Nan Xian and Wen Nuan.  I actually and genuinely think the two of them would make a good couple -- we see how well they get along and work together, whether it's at work or outside of work.  It's just too bad really.  But we'll see what happens with this new employee.  I had to chuckle when I heard the song he was singing though.  I recognized it immediately from the "My Mr Mermaid" OST.  :D 

 

 

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Oh wow oh wow oh wow . . . so much in this episode!

 

First, the birthday party scene where Wen Nuan ended up falling over Zhu Lin Lu.  I knew the minute it happened Nan Xian was going to show up at the door and YUP.  That's exactly what happened.  I half expected him to turn around and leave though, so I was pleased when Wen Nuan noticed his presence and chased after him.  I just wish the conversation that took place after that had gone differently.  I said in my last post, when I commented on Ep 17, that these two needed to communicate.  I can only emphasize that again here!

 

It frustrates me that she's holding back because of Yi Xin.  That really needs to be cleared up.  And how super annoying that just as she asks herself whether she should talk to Nan Xian, he shows up at work with Yi Xin on his arms.  Like, seriously, GAHHHHHHH.

 

I also wonder though how much she really can explain the past to Nan Xian when there are obviously parts of the past that she can't remember.  That's why as much as I recognize that Wen Rou does love her sister, and I think genuinely wishes for Wen Nuan's happiness, I also feel frustrated by her and those wishes of hers.  Because, really?  If things had happened differently in the past, Wen Nuan would be happier right now, and we all know Wen Rou has played some part in this mysterious past.

 

As for Nan Xian, apart from my annoyance that over the fact that he's still got Yi Xin hanging around, my sympathies do lie with him right now.  I can only imagine how frustrating it must be for him to not know the reason for their break up -- and not only that, but to wonder about it for seven years.  Gosh, that's such a long time to be left hanging with questions!  I'm glad he's asking her the questions.  I just wish he'd give her space to answer.  I also wish he'd trust in her and himself.  I wanted to remind him of the drunken words that Wen Rou revealed several episodes back.  Don't be fulled by what you saw in the past and what you see in the present, Nan Xian.  You know there's nothing going on with Zhu Lin Lu! 

 

With all that said, it was nice to finally hear from him his perspective of the past.  It explains so much.  I love that he has Manager Gao to confide in, and I wonder with all this information and his benefit of being an impartial observer, whether he will continue to play the Fairy Godmother roll for these two star-crossed lovers.  I certainly hope so as we know, from the past incident where he sent Wen Nuan running over to Nan Xian's house, that it's a role he plays very well.  :wink:

 

In conclusion, Episode 18 was both frustrating but a revelation at the same time.  My main comfort is knowing that these are all band-aids that need to be ripped off.  Only then can the wounds start to heal, and I do feel like we're making progress.  At least, that's what I'm hoping!  :)

 

 

Sorry, i feel like I've spammed the thread so much tonight!  I'm going to bed now.  :tongue: 

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7 hours ago, themarchioness said:

 

Totally.  It's like the dance sequence from the charity auction event -- when they're together, everything just fades away until it's just them.  

 

I'm so excited because I finally get to leave work and can go home to WATCH.  LOL.  Yes, my friends, I've reached that level of desperation.  Let's not even talk about the fact that I've two friends that happen to be visiting from out of town the same week.  We're meeting up for dinner tomorrow night and it occurred to me that I'll get home too late to do any real watching!!!  I'm in utter agony.  What am I going to do tomorrow night???  Couldn't they have visited last week?  :lol::lol::lol:

That is the power of editing. :wink: Knowing when to fade the background and side characters.

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Hi all.  Thanks to @cheeriekwan hehe hi hi again, i finally found a watchable drama after such a while i must say.  Loving the chemistry between ZH and JC as i did in their The Four in 2015. 

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3 hours ago, gentlelily12 said:

Hi all.  Thanks to @cheeriekwan hehe hi hi again, i finally found a watchable drama after such a while i must say.  Loving the chemistry between ZH and JC as i did in their The Four in 2015. 

Welcome to the thread, you will love it.  Me too a fan of ZH snd JC since The Four. Happy watching ya.

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6 hours ago, themarchioness said:

 

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Sorry, i feel like I've spammed the thread so much tonight!  I'm going to bed now.  :tongue: 

 

We love your analysis @themarchioness  please don't stop...ok you can go to sleep lol....

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9 hours ago, themarchioness said:

Finished watching Ep 16.  As I stated yesterday, when I peaked ahead: INTENSE.

 

I also appreciate that, it appears from this episode forward, the end credit song has been switched to Zhang Han's "Without You."  It's perfect. 

 

I really think WN and NX need to take communication lessons from Guan Ti and Xiao Dai.  So many needless misunderstandings if only they didn't let their insecurities, pride, and jealousy get in the way.  Sigh. 

 

Since I'm not going to be around tomorrow evening, I'm off to watch 17/18 without subs.  :)

 

 

LOL, that would certainly make for an interesting image at the restaurant.  "Don't mind me, just picking up a dropped fork!"  :D 

 

Agreed. All the misunderstandings are driving me a little bit crazy. Now it’s half way through the drama and I’m getting a bit worried because Wen Nuan and Nan Xiang has barely talked about their relationship. Sure we get bits and pieces so far but it’s time to tackle something meatier.

 

Thanks for the points on episodes 17 and 18. Like Nan Xian, I’d really like to know why she broke up with him.

 

4 hours ago, gentlelily12 said:

Hi all.  Thanks to @cheeriekwan hehe hi hi again, i finally found a watchable drama after such a while i must say.  Loving the chemistry between ZH and JC as i did in their The Four in 2015. 

Their very first scene in The Four made me fall hard for them. It was so funny.

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Addicted is the word. You know you are doomed when you just want the raws of 19 and 20 more than the subs for 17 and 18. I just want to know what happens next. Why are they torturing themselves and us??? How hard it must be to just talk everything out and get back together again?? Clearly she came back for him, then why would she let him misunderstand her. And clearly he had been waiting for a whole 7 years for her, now why can't he just clear her relationship with that actress and come back to her. They just don't trust each other. That is the issue. They have doubts. Although I dont know how after that karoake session any of them have doubts about other's love for them. It's clear as day!!!!! She cried, he cried! sighhhhh. I actually don't think Zhu Lin lu or the foxy actress are the hindrances in their relationship, it's themselves. Whatever the reason might be for why she left him 7 years back, why can't she just trust him and tell him the truth. Sighhhhhhh. 

 

I think the major draw for me is it's similarity to Silent separation. I just love these kind of stories. The angst is real. LOL. Even though I feel like throwing things at my screen sometimes, I just love to see the lovebirds finding their way back to each other. And Zhang Han is pretty cool. I honestly never found him attractive before, but this drama changed the impression I had of him. He does things to me now. Lol. I just want to bite his ears off. I know I occasionally have these perverted thoughts. Don't mind me. Lol. 

 

Delurking after a long time. Hello to everyone!!!

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4 minutes ago, kokodus said:

Addicted is the word. You know you are doomed when you just want the raws of 19 and 20 more than the subs for 17 and 18. I just want to know what happens next. Why are they torturing themselves and us??? How hard it must be to just talk everything out and get back together again?? Clearly she came back for him, then why would she let him misunderstand her. And clearly he had been waiting for a whole 7 years for her, now why can't he just clear her relationship with that actress and come back to her. They just don't trust each other. That is the issue. They have doubts. Although I dont know how after that karoake session any of them have doubts about other's love for them. It's clear as day!!!!! She cried, he cried! sighhhhh. I actually don't think Zhu Lin lu or the foxy actress are the hindrances in their relationship, it's themselves. Whatever the reason might be for why she left him 7 years back, why can't she just trust him and tell him the truth. Sighhhhhhh. 

 

I think the major draw for me is it's similarity to Silent separation. I just love these kind of stories. The angst is real. LOL. Even though I feel like throwing things at my screen sometimes, I just love to see the lovebirds finding their way back to each other. And Zhang Han is pretty cool. I honestly never found him attractive before, but this drama changed the impression I had of him. He does things to me now. Lol. I just want to bite his ears off. I know I occasionally have these perverted thoughts. Don't mind me. Lol. 

 

Delurking after a long time. Hello to everyone!!!

LOL I have a weakness for “second chance at love” stories but I have to admit that as soon as I found out last September that these two were going to be leads in a drama again I intended to watch it without even knowing a thing about the story. When I saw the scene of Wen Nuan and Lin Lu wiping the cream from the cake on their faces, it reminded me of last September when it was Janing’s birthday and Zhang Han smeared her cheeks with the cream from the cake but she got him back later by doing the same. It was so funny. I saw the pictures and the videos of her birthday celebration on the set.

 

As to Wen Nuan and Nan Xian’s current impasse, I think Wen Nuan needs to be more courageous. She left England with a purpose but so far she’s too passive. I get that she’s still timid but I think she needs to go after what she wants. Nan Xian needs to stop letting the misunderstanding of his relationship with Yi Xin flourish. I think manager Gao already warned him about this but he doesn’t seem to take it seriously.

 

 

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Welcome @gentlelily12!  I'm really loving the chemistry between the OTP too.  I must confess that prior to this drama, I never really understood the appeal of ZH, but this drama is turning me into a believer!  Haha.

 

@jadore1, thank you, I'm glad you are ok with my live reactions.  I can't seem to help myself.  Someone will inevitably say something that makes me flail around and I just have to say something.  It's no fun doing that by myself, so I'm appreciative of this group.  :)

 

37 minutes ago, celebrianna said:

Agreed. All the misunderstandings are driving me a little bit crazy. Now it’s half way through the drama and I’m getting a bit worried because Wen Nuan and Nan Xiang has barely talked about their relationship. Sure we get bits and pieces so far but it’s time to tackle something meatier.

 

Thanks for the points on episodes 17 and 18. Like Nan Xian, I’d really like to know why she broke up with him.

 

So . . . about the "halfway point" thing.  I know MDL lists the drama as 36 episodes, but the drama's Chinese Wikipedia page says 46.  I think (not certain, but think) that episode lengths differ based on the platform on which it is aired (in other words: online versus television), and that is the reason for the discrepancy.  As the Viki videos are 45 minutes long, using past experience of watching other dramas with episodes this length as my measure, I'm more inclined to believe the 46 number than 36.  Just thought I'd point that out. 

 

As for the break-up reason, I also confess that long ago I read a spoiler someone posted on their blog from the book.  If anyone can't stand the suspense and wants to know it, feel free to PM me.

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