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39 minutes ago, ChibiLy said:

I think the scene was important.  Some viewers see FJ as needy and immature. But I think she handled it well. She could have closed up and let her insecurities and resentment build. Instead, FJ bravely expressed her fears to DH. DH could have handled it better by giving her a hug.  The positive is he didn't reject FJ and instead explained the situation to FJ in a objective way. 

 

In this scene, FJ has been comfortable enough in their relationship that she can tell him her inner fears and openly cry. DH on the other hand stayed calm and listened to her, and spoke to her as patiently possible his views. He didn't ridicule her tears nor dismissed her misgivings. 

 

I like how they interacted here, even if FJ was emotional, even if DH still seems remote. 

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On 10/11/2020 at 4:27 PM, Megan said:

I do love how Dong Hua said “他敢。”

it was said with so much promise of death if Feng Jiu died.

Me too! DH doesn't say much, but every word he says counts.

 

On 10/13/2020 at 7:01 PM, Megan said:

Here is a crazy scenario.

say BQ or FJ are having a deadly birthing time. And Zhe Yan decrees that only the mother or child can survive. BQ and FJ choose to save their child and say it outloud. Question is; will their husbands respect their decisions?

I doubt their husband's will respect their decisions. 

YH was barely functional when Susan died. Whereas DH lived miserably without FJ when she disappeared.  

2 hours ago, MayanEcho said:

 

In this scene, FJ has been comfortable enough in their relationship that she can tell him her inner fears and openly cry. DH on the other hand stayed calm and listened to her, and spoke to her as patiently possible his views. He didn't ridicule her tears nor dismissed her misgivings. 

 

I like how they interacted here, even if FJ was emotional, even if DH still seems remote. 

I love their reactions. Both try so hard to understand each other.

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On 10/13/2020 at 11:34 PM, MayanEcho said:

No. Consorts are not concubines. The dictionary itself would expound the meaning and differences between the two.

Ok, I tried researching. I’ve concluded...consorts is just another name for a higher ranking concubine.

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3 hours ago, Megan said:

Ok, I tried researching. I’ve concluded...consorts is just another name for a higher ranking concubine.

 

The difference, Megan, is that a consort is married while a concubine is not. The consort can rise to become an Empress in Imperial China. The concubine may become a consort if she bears heirs to the throne. 

 

The consort is either wife or husband, in particular the spouse of the reigning monarch. For examples in 3L3W, DH is the Prince consort of the Qing Qiu Empress FJ. Sujin was a consort of Tianjun Hao De. 

 

In real life, in UK, Prince Philip is the Prince Consort of Queen Elizabeth II. Duchess Camilla will be Princess consort when Prince Charles ascends.

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Inspired by the Lion King, I have deduced who wakes up first.
Gun Gun wakes up earliest. Feng Jiu normally wakes early but Dong Hua keeps her up at night. I’m guessing a Dong Hua is a definite late riser.

one morning, Gun Gun knocks on his parents’ door.
GG: mother, father, it’s time to wake up!

FJ: your son is awake. Go greet him.

DH: before sunrise, he’s your son.

FJ: then why am I in your bed?

DH: I need my wife more than our son does.

FJ: aha, you just said ‘our’. Now get up and do your parental duty.

DH: duty? What’s that? Never heard of it?

FJ:....

 

 

1 hour ago, MayanEcho said:

 

The difference, Megan, is that a consort is married while a concubine is not. The consort can rise to become an Empress in Imperial China. The concubine may become a consort if she bears heirs to the throne. 

 

The consort is either wife or husband, in particular the spouse of the reigning monarch. For examples in 3L3W, DH is the Prince consort of the Qing Qiu Empress FJ. Sujin was a consort of Tianjun Hao De. 

 

In real life, in UK, Prince Philip is the Prince Consort of Queen Elizabeth II. Duchess Camilla will be Princess consort when Prince Charles ascends.

In that case, did Su Jin literally choose to demote herself from emperor’s consort to Ye Hua’s concubine? Since technically they never got married.

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2 hours ago, Megan said:

In that case, did Su Jin literally choose to demote herself from emperor’s consort to Ye Hua’s concubine? Since technically they never got married.

 

She was not demoted to concubine. Su Jin was bestowed as a side consort to Ye Hua when they arrived back successful against the rebellion of Ling Yu, formalized in the ceremony as official Crown Prince. It's as good as marriage because it was decreed by Tianjun. 

 

While she was recognised as a Princess in Jiuchongtian, Su Jin will always be a consort to anyone she is married to and will never have the status of a concubine.

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This is if you could have items from the 三生三世 universe.

would you rather:

1) have the Sky clan’s soul lantern or Shen Ye’s lantern as your bedside lamp?

2) Feng Jiu’s hairpin or bracelet? Obviously her ring will stay with her.

3) Bai Qian’s magic mirror or special blindfold that protects her sensitive eyes?

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Watching episode 45, there is a scene I don’t get.

when Moye tells Feng Jiu how he had questioned the stupid lie of Aranya’s death, he said the bird clan dared him to cheat it??? What does that mean?

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And I’m guessing from when Junuo said Aranya’s Dream was their retribution...basically it means the eternal winter it caused was their karma?

Finished episode 45. Enjoying most of the DongFeng courtship. Dong Hua made me laugh when he didn’t show any response to Moye’s exhaustion. And I do love those magic hand formations to cast magic. It looks so elegant.

finally Shen Ye shows he cares. I feel sorry for Wen Tian but I also feel like she knew Aranya also liked Shen Ye.

still feel like Junuo didn’t get due karma for not giving Aranya her due justice!

if Dong Hua is strong enough to escape the dream...why can’t he do so now? He wants to take Aranya out and away from Miao Luo.

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4 hours ago, Megan said:

This is if you could have items from the 三生三世 universe.

would you rather:

1) have the Sky clan’s soul lantern or Shen Ye’s lantern as your bedside lamp?

2) Feng Jiu’s hairpin or bracelet? Obviously her ring will stay with her.

3) Bai Qian’s magic mirror or special blindfold that protects her sensitive eyes?

 

1. Neither. Those lamps belong to the one who need it closest to them most.

 

2. Bracelet coz I don't wear hairpins.

 

3. Mirror coz I can use it for "calling". :D

 

3 hours ago, Megan said:

Watching episode 45, there is a scene I don’t get.

when Moye tells Feng Jiu how he had questioned the stupid lie of Aranya’s death, he said the bird clan dared him to cheat it??? What does that mean?

 

Wasn't it that in the sub SMY said he was cheated of the real reason of her death?

 

Aranya was under his care for years and he would know the temperament of his ward. She is not the sort who will hang herself. More importantly, the timing of her death, just a few days after Xiangli He supposedly died in the battle against the Night Owl clan, and coronation of Junou as Queen, is very, very suspicious.

 

Telling SMY that Aranya did, is an insult to his intelligence, and an affront to him being the master of the Princess, and to him as a person, being a Prince himself.

 

2 hours ago, Megan said:

And I’m guessing from when Junuo said Aranya’s Dream was their retribution...basically it means the eternal winter it caused was their karma?

 

They are reminded of the winter that once, the clan neglected and betrayed their princess when they did not do the right thing from when she was thrown to the snake pit as a baby.

 

2 hours ago, Megan said:

finally Shen Ye shows he cares. I feel sorry for Wen Tian but I also feel like she knew Aranya also liked Shen Ye.

 

Wen Tian is aware of what was going on. She's much like Jielu, that even if she also likes Shen Ye, she will help Aranya and Shen Ye to be together.

 

2 hours ago, Megan said:

still feel like Junuo didn’t get due karma for not giving Aranya her due justice!

 

Doesn't having to depose her own mother, living through the winter years after years, and the only main family member left with the memories of Aranya and Shen Ye to haunt her not punishment enough for Junou and justice for Aranya? That the dream ward existed because she also betrayed Aranya during her youth, and Shen Ye for not even telling him Aranya died when she visited him in the shrine?

 

IMO, Junou suffered after realising how much they wronged Aranya, and how she can not make it up anymore with her, and to Shen Ye as well. She was suffering for Meng Hao, even before he realised who is FJ, because she was afraid that her son will go through the bitterness over love if he will go against DH for FJ.

 

Everytime someone is trapped in Aranya's dream, she would be reminded of her role years ago.

 

What should Junou still go through, so that it will be rightly due karma? It might not sound right to make the name of Aranya a taboo, but if it boosts the morale of the clan after losing their seasons and having to live in fear of Shen Ye, then IMO, she did the right thing as their monarch.

 

2 hours ago, Megan said:

If Dong Hua is strong enough to escape the dream...why can’t he do so now? He wants to take Aranya out and away from Miao Luo.

 

It was explained in Ep39 why. Besides of course that FJ is still recovering. In a later episode, what DH tells SMY also shows he cares for Shen Ye. 

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6 hours ago, MayanEcho said:

Doesn't having to depose her own mother, living through the winter years after years, and the only main family member left with the memories of Aranya and Shen Ye to haunt her not punishment enough for Junou and justice for Aranya? That the dream ward existed because she also betrayed Aranya during her youth, and Shen Ye for not even telling him Aranya died when she visited him in the shrine?

 

IMO, Junou suffered after realising how much they wronged Aranya, and how she can not make it up anymore with her, and to Shen Ye as well. She was suffering for Meng Hao, even before he realised who is FJ, because she was afraid that her son will go through the bitterness over love if he will go against DH for FJ.

 

Everytime someone is trapped in Aranya's dream, she would be reminded of her role years ago.

 

What should Junou still go through, so that it will be rightly due karma? It might not sound right to make the name of Aranya a taboo, but if it boosts the morale of the clan after losing their seasons and having to live in fear of Shen Ye, then IMO, she did the right thing as their monarch.

It’s not just the name taboo.

Aranya sacrificed her life to save her people. Now all the current generation knows about her is that she is the cause of eternal winter and a dangerous dream that lurks about. No one knows about her sacrifice because they all say it was her brother who sacrificed himself.

ok, I get that it was what Aranya wanted so her brother could be free, but apparently if people question about Aranya, she died by suicide and was suspected of poisoning the emperor!

is it so hard to honor her memory with something positive?

While Junuo deposed Qinghua, no one can say what her motives were. She could have done it for Aranya, or justice itself.

and despite the winter, the birds are still thriving, Junuo included. It’s not that I want the birds to suffer, but is it so hard to show some mourning for Aranya? At the very least they could offer up some incense yearly? I don’t know. They could mourn for her on her birthday? Death day?

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2 hours ago, Megan said:

It’s not just the name taboo.

Aranya sacrificed her life to save her people. Now all the current generation knows about her is that she is the cause of eternal winter and a dangerous dream that lurks about. No one knows about her sacrifice because they all say it was her brother who sacrificed himself.

ok, I get that it was what Aranya wanted so her brother could be free, but apparently if people question about Aranya, she died by suicide and was suspected of poisoning the emperor!

is it so hard to honor her memory with something positive?

While Junuo deposed Qinghua, no one can say what her motives were. She could have done it for Aranya, or justice itself.

and despite the winter, the birds are still thriving, Junuo included. It’s not that I want the birds to suffer, but is it so hard to show some mourning for Aranya? At the very least they could offer up some incense yearly? I don’t know. They could mourn for her on her birthday? Death day?

 

This is a royal family, but it's convoluted with politicking just the same. 

 

Let's consider the scenarios if Junou prematurely ceded the taboo, which was likely put in place just after she ascended to the throne and the 3 seasons were taken by Shen Ye. Qinghua was still the defacto shadow ruler, and she is the one who most likely pushed for the taboo. 

 

What will that make Junou as the clan monarch? Because removing that taboo will equally give the reasons to disclose her roles until Aranya's demise and of what Shen Ye did.

 

In a family that is beset of acts and tendencies of fratricide, prolicide, mariticide, will Junou and her own family survive it? Moreover, can the clan take more problems when they are vulnerable?

 

You are concerned that Aranya might have been known to the public to have committed regicide, and the reason why there is a dream ward by the pinpo tree, and of continuous winter. But who knows about that? The name is taboo. No one will openly talk of her, thus, the later generation will know next to nil about her.

 

Will Aranya's former servants say anything to correct the misconception, if any? Qinghua likely executed them first while Aranya was jailed. And anyone who opposed her over the taboo.

 

Have you considered why Shen Ye and Wen Tian has to rely on Xi Ze to save her, when Aranya has loyal servants? Because the people closest to Aranya were already gone. Have you considered that the reason Su Moye could not get the right details of her death, it is because there are no people left who might know, other than Xi Ze who is out of reach,  and Junou and Qinghua, and accomplices of Qinghua who will never talk? 

 

Junou herself deposed Qinghua as she finally realised the madness with her. The important thing is she did what is right in that aspect. What the various archmages turned a blind eye to from when Xiangli Que murdered his own brother to be the ruler and to have his pregnant sister-in-law as his wife.

 

Back to Junou, if she removed the taboo too early, what will that bring her and to the clan? Because that will be an admission of her own mistakes. Things in the past that can be used to undermine her rule and in essence, cause her people another or more rounds of upheavals.

 

It's too idealistic to think that the clan will forgive and forget, not when they have to live with unending winter for years. And to live in fear of what the creator of the dream realm can actually do. The other rival clans can also exploit the situation.

 

So Aranya's sacrifice for her clan is unrecognised, and no one utters her name, much less remember her. 

 

But if it meant quiet living, peace, and being safe for the Biyiniao clan, then it is worth the taboo. 

 

The taboo at most had become an empty gesture of defiance against Shen Ye after years passed, but if it has brought stability for the clan, my view would be to keep it. If it would hurt somebody's sentiments, that would be mostly unto Junou first and foremost.

 

What Junou does in private was not discussed in story or drama when it comes to Aranya. But that she didn't build a shrine for her sister's sacrifice?

 

That's not true. It's not the incense sticks she should lit for her in accordance to tradition, but in ruling justly and wisely. It's Meng Shao and Jielu. She stopped the hating in her generation. She did not let it touch her son and niece. In fact, a lot of Meng Shao's and Jielu's character are so much like Aranya.

 

Feng Jiu and Xiao Yan gravely injured Meng Shao when they first fell down, but despite what FJ was telling XY, and Meng Shao's lies to hide his escapades, Junou decided to keep them and hosted them graciously. She might have punished Jielu initially when she started asking about Aranya, but she had a change of heart and advised her well.

 

Meng Shao was very well-mannered, her niece Jielu knows her place. That's credit to Junou, who made sure the children in her family are reared well, a complete opposite on how she and Changdi grew hating their own sister. She had a son that was willing to die for their people and sacrifice for the ones he cares of. She had a niece that young as she is, was still chosen to lead by her own clan, a sign that they trust her and her upbringing. That is a better shrine and remembrance for Aranya, even if it is silent at its best.

 

The taboo was basically over when Dong Hua asked about Aranya. It was also the right time. It was the last time the cycle of Aranya's life would be replayed in the dream realm, and it was time DH and FJ revisited and lived the past lives of their shadows.

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Currently watching episode 46.

Dong Hua says that Shen Ye can say nice things, but Dong Hua, the nice things you are quoting was what you said when Feng Jiu took you flower viewing. So that makes no sense

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Finished episode 46. Loved it for the romance. Though I do feel that it was a comparatively short episode that could have explained things like why Moye didn’t want anybody to know he has toffees, why Feng Jiu called Cha Cha a prophet. Those who read the book know why. But it is kind of surprising to see such comments without proper explanation.

and yes I know why, but I still would have liked to see them act out the scenes.

also, why did Feng Jiu say Dong Hua should compliment her on something beyond her cooking skills if they are talking about potatoes? Does she want him to compliment her on her other traits? Or she wants him to be original and quick relying on easy compliments that she gets from everybody?

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Hello. Does anybody else wonder what might have happened if Zhihe did manage to meet her brother after the Bingcang ceremony?

i mean she might complain and disapprove but I’m pretty sure Dong Hua would just brush her off. “My wife is my business. If you don’t approve, then don’t come to the wedding and return to your post.”

speaking of which, what was Zhihe planning to do when she confronted Jiheng? If she hadn’t seen Jiheng interact with Minsu...um...possibly try to intimidate her?

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6 hours ago, Megan said:

Hello. Does anybody else wonder what might have happened if Zhihe did manage to meet her brother after the Bingcang ceremony?

i mean she might complain and disapprove but I’m pretty sure Dong Hua would just brush her off. “My wife is my business. If you don’t approve, then don’t come to the wedding and return to your post.”

 

Whether or not Zhi He meets her foster brother, whatever she plans to do or how much she protests would be immaterial since DH and FJ are already married before Bincang ceremony. DH is the Prince Consort of the Queen of Qing Qiu.

 

Zhi He is not invited to the reception of course. :rolleyes:

 

6 hours ago, Megan said:

speaking of which, what was Zhihe planning to do when she confronted Jiheng? If she hadn’t seen Jiheng interact with Minsu...um...possibly try to intimidate her?

 

Zhi He doesn't even want others to look at foster brother, so yeah, scaring Ji Heng off is a possibility. 

 

Pretty sure that isn't the first time she warned others off. She can't be that bold without her habitually doing it. She got away with it because she's the Emperor's foster sister.

 

IMO, she hangs on to emphasizing at all times that DH is her foster brother. 

 

I think she is an honorary princess due to her association with DH. Kind of like Sujin when she was fostered by Yancou and Lexu. But what's with these " honorary princesses" overstepping boundaries? :lol:

 

LOL when she was confronting FJ over the robes. "Do not think of bewitching my foster brother!" 

:Megalol:

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