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[Current Mainland WebDrama 2020] Three Lives Three Worlds The Pillow Book 三生三世枕上书

Where do you think Ep 48 will end at?   

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  1. 1. Let' take a poll just for fun since we are waiting. Where do you think Ep 48 will end at?

    • bing cang ceremony
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    • DH and FJ leaving Fanyin Valley
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    • Aranya's battle with the owl clan
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    • DH and SMY peering into the Miaolu glass
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    • Aranya in prison and talking to the mother
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23 minutes ago, orenji_neko said:

PB 2, page 354

 

Dijun raised his hand to rub his forehead. “I called for the Stone of Destiny. It said our fate is too fragile and must not be subjected to too much turbulence. Xiao Bai still has some misgivings toward me… at this time if she remembers I was lying to her in Aranya's Dream, I can't say for sure what's going to happen. This is the only risk I don't dare take. No matter how I think about it, this is still the best solution.”

As a person I still think he could have tried to tell the truth to FJ. Why he was with jiheng and how much he loves her...but nah he chose wrong path:sweatingbullets:

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17 minutes ago, elsanna said:

As a person I still think he could have tried to tell the truth to FJ. Why he was with jiheng and how much he loves her...but nah he chose wrong path:sweatingbullets:

In the novel, he lies a lot. Considering all the risks, I could understand why he chose to alter FJ's memories. But in the drama (as of ep42), 

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he already explained to FJ about why he gave Saha fruits to JH, about him chasing after her into Aranya's Dream because he love her. Their relationship was pretty good. 

I don't know if there will be any plot twist later that will make him want to use that memory-altering medicine. :unsure:

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1 hour ago, atikah sani said:

 

hhahahahhaha sorry DJ I kinda have to side with them cause I was fuming when I read this part in the novel, like I literally wanted to go into the novel and shake him :tounge_wink:

 

You are too kind ... just shaking him only? 

I want to god smack his head a few times for that.

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12 minutes ago, orenji_neko said:

In the novel, he lies a lot. Considering all the risks, I could understand why he chose to alter FJ's memories. But in the drama (as of ep42), 

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he already explained to FJ about why he gave Saha fruits to JH, about him chasing after her into Aranya's Dream because he love her. Their relationship was pretty good. 

I don't know if there will be any plot twist later that will make him want to use that memory-altering medicine. :unsure:

Okay...so drama has already cleared up all the misunderstanding then what will be the reason for their separation this time:wacko:

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25 minutes ago, cheekychipmunk_stv said:

 

You are too kind ... just shaking him only? 

I want to god smack his head a few times for that.

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hahahahahah, after reading more than once, my anger reduce reading that part again and again, but the first time reading TPB novel, i keep on asking, does DJ really truly love FJ cause when he left her at the end for a while for JH, I was like, I dont wanna read this anymoreeee :bawling:

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Just wanted to share an old post @redfoxprincess about her take on DH characterization..

Read her post make me understand more about DH characters in the Books 

 

@xiaoxf @elsanna @atikah sani

 

Firstly, DH’s greatest flaw is that he does not discuss with others before he does things, and from his somewhat rightful (arguable) sense of entitlement is his infamous shamelessness. He’s a steamroller. His kingliness spills over into governing his personal relationships, and this is the cause of much suffering between him & FJ. Even Liang Song his best friend, after DH & FJ return from Aranya’s Dream, suggested DH should openly and honestly tell FJ everything that happened rather than just formulate and secretly feed her the memory-altering pill. There are so many times when he just makes decisions and does things without any communication, which causes many misunderstandings, complicating their weak/doomed fate. When pregnant FJ leaves DH for the mortal realm, she also laments that DH has always just done everything as he wished and she never truly understood him, and still was not sure about how he felt towards herself or Ji Heng. From the very beginning, from his playful flirtatious behaviour towards FJ after YHBQ’s wedding, the hot spring encounter and deliberately walking to her and looking at her naked, at the newly-minted immortals induction ceremony he was openly embarrassing her about the hot spring encounter, when she was drunk taking her to her room and staying with her (when really he shouldn’t have done this himself but as if he would care!), keeping FJ-the-handkerchief trapped in his body and taking her to battle and then causing her to drop into Fanyin Valley, trapping her in his force field for 10 days when he trained her for the competition, switching out the Saha Fruit prize for the Heavenly peaches, contemplating killing Xiao Yan so he could have FJ all to himself, taking on Xize’s identity and continuing to pretend to be Xize when he was with her, (and here’s the worst and also most relevant part) pretending to be Xize and having sex with her - did you know that in many countries this is classified as ‘rape by deception’? He would not be able to claim the defence of ‘mistaken identity’ because he used deception deliberately and wilfully - informed consent from her is not possible. Obviously, we can’t use a 21st century legal lens while reading historical high fantasy, but the point i’m trying to make is that DH is far from perfect, but its his shamelessness and all his flaws connected to the fact that he is the ‘master of the universe’ that we (and FJ) love and hate at the same time. He didn’t ‘forcefully’ rape her, but she also did not give informed consent because he took her by deception. However, he knew how much she loved him all these years and he was absolutely in love with her now, so he saw it as harmless. I was actually quite miffed at this part of the novel the first time i read it, but have come to appreciate how cleverly controversial it is when i put my legalistic mind aside. So for DH to one-sidedly go ahead and legally register their marriage is but one of a continuous chain of decisions he just steamrolls her with. It all culminates in leaving FJ to save Ji Heng the night before their wedding, and fate delivers all its blows to him after that. Does DH redeem himself? Many readers would argue that the 200 years he spent looking for FJ and preparing for his death was his character redemption. He could choose and control everything in life, but he was (very almost nearly) bound to die. Does his character improve after the 200 year separation - especially after FJ gave him a taste of his own medicine by wordlessly leaving him while pregnant, and raising their son without him, and on their reunion, rejects all his gifts and attempts to cut ties with him, and he finds out suddenly that all this time she had been hiding the fact that they had a son? Both DH & FJ’s character development arcs are very interesting, controversial and memorable. This is one of the many reasons i love this book SO MUCH!!!

 

Secondly, and this sounds contradictory, but i think Tang Qi did this deliberately. Despite DH steamrolling all decisions without consulting anyone (with a sense of entitlement that is fit for his status), deep inside, he cares deeply about others. He cares deeply about Liang Song and even Liang Song’s attempts to woo Cheng Yu, and helps him with his dagger design. He cares deeply about Ji Heng’s father and time and time again brought himself trouble because of Ji Heng’s antics. He cares deeply about the world and for millenia has been secretly (only to Mo Yuan’s knowledge) dealing with the Huiming Realm toxins, fighting Miao Luo, sacrificing his spirit essence and cultivation, to save the world. This goes hand-in-hand with him so-called being loveless, desireless and emotionless, not having a care in the world, yet also being the master of the universe, the king who sprung forth from the Blue Sea and unified a warring universe, bringing peace to all. Eventually, this king crosses paths with FJ. He cares deeply about FJ but he makes all decisions for her and treats her a bit like a child he is caring for the whole time. Legally registering their marriage because they had sex is yet another one of those ways in which he cares for her, but does it without communication, without consultation, and without a care for how she feels. Because he had taken her virginity, he takes reponsibility by securing their legal marriage through formal registration. Countless women over millenia have tried to crawl into his bed, yet he tosses them out like rubbish. The first time this entitled yet emotionless king, who has everything and could have anyone he wanted, actually falls in love, it takes him by surprise how hard it is - FJ (as Aranya) advises him to treasure and hold on to this love because it is so hard to come by and grasp onto. Therefore, it’s a big deal to him, because FJ is the first woman he’s been with and his first love and she means everything to him. Registering their marriage literally ‘ties’ her to him! And yet, to abandon her after this would be absolutely reprehensible, as he not only had sex with her, but did it under a disguised identity. Therefore, again, he did the right thing but did it the wrong way. Isn’t this so telling of how we always feel about DH? The conflicting feelings arising from his conflicting character are addictive. He is so bloody flawed yet we forgive him. He is yet another personification of the drama-trope flawed male heroine, but he is extra, extra adorable.

 

 

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4 hours ago, SC2019 said:

There is an up and coming scene between XiZe and FJ where they watch the Yueling flowers and FJ thinks that Xize is Su Moye (with the eye masks on). This is what DJ says when FJ asks him “You said you only want to keep one person in your memory. How was she like?”

 

“Very beautiful,” he told her. “And she'll be even more beautiful when she grows up.” He paused then added: “She has a good personality too.” Then he recalled: “Also very talented. Talented in everything.” And finally concluded: “Everything about her is wonderful.” Then as though he was speaking to himself: “Since I picked her, naturally everything about her is wonderful.”

 

I think someone posted this earlier, but just wanted to highlight it again - simple, sincere and heartfelt, this this is view of her. Naturally, FJ thinks this description is what Su Moye thinks of Aranya; the irony is that this is how she is being described by the man she loves, who she thinks loves someone else. Stay tuned for that scene!

 

 

@springfiry Don't know if you remembered that part, but they changed the scene in the cave where Xize has just fought with the serpent (book) which was changed into Miaoluo (drama), and he confessed to FJ that he is inexperienced when it comes to love/dating/romance, and he needs to learn more. I found that rather hilarious, coming from DJ who is supposed to reign supreme, having to admit that he is lacking in this area. And FJ was so indignant when he said he has to learn (from her?)...:D

@SC2019 I saw that part and remember it! It was so hilarious when he said that and I was giddily giggling away. 

 

I find Vengo acted very well and was not too over the top with the way he said it.

 

I like how DH is teasing her here but yet is honest about his own "life experiences". He truly is sincere about making things up to her. I love all the banter here. 

 

@jimmylyne I love and agree with the analysis from you and @redfoxprincess . Let us not forget that LianSong did say that DHDJ made his way up the hierarchy by not only his fight in wars but also by his wits/intelligence. Having lived so long and being moved by a girl finally, he assessed all odds and decided the best course of action. Sure it was high handed, but as his love for the was so deep, he wanted to ensure all odds were in his favour and within his control. DHDJ didn't get to where he was by being laid back. 

 

I am not sure how they will finally consummate their relationship now, cause FJ knows Xize is DH , so there is no deception there? 

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When they were lying down to wait for the yueling flowers and FJ starts to sing, her voice scare the creeps out of me. I was like what happened to her voice?! The part where she sing at the cave sounds so much better. 

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20 minutes ago, Yori Ten said:

Ah...I see YQT shirtless, so I raised you DH!

 

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Damn.. where did his abs go ?! He looks super fair in the bath tub scene.. and I don't think I saw any hair!

 

Which show is this? I need to watch it asap

 

@katfindlay Glad I wasn't the only one that found the singing  so weird and awkward.  I don't know if it is Reba's real voice or something. But it sounded so unlike the Dub voice

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21 minutes ago, springfiry said:

 

Damn.. where did his abs go ?! He looks super fair in the bath tub scene.. and I don't think I saw any hair!

 

Which show is this? I need to watch it asap

 

@katfindlay Glad I wasn't the only one that found the singing  so weird and awkward.  I don't know if it is Reba's real voice or something. But it sounded so unlike the Dub voice

 

I know right, it was quite cringing to watch lol when DJ ask her to sing at the cave I was like NOOOO... not again... But the cave version does sound like her Dub voice 

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9 hours ago, NOUR ly said:

did anyone know,where i can find eng sub for ep 37-42...saw high quality video but without sub,cant understand....very sad.

Can you message me the link, please?

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52 minutes ago, springfiry said:

@SC2019 I saw that part and remember it! It was so hilarious when he said that and I was giddily giggling away. 

 

I find Vengo acted very well and was not too over the top with the way he said it.

 

I like how DH is teasing her here but yet is honest about his own "life experiences". He truly is sincere about making things up to her. I love all the banter here. 

 

@jimmylyne I love and agree with the analysis from you and @redfoxprincess . Let us not forget that LianSong did say that DHDJ made his way up the hierarchy by not only his fight in wars but also by his wits/intelligence. Having lived so long and being moved by a girl finally, he assessed all odds and decided the best course of action. Sure it was high handed, but as his love for the was so deep, he wanted to ensure all odds were in his favour and within his control. DHDJ didn't get to where he was by being laid back. 

 

I am not sure how they will finally consummate their relationship now, cause FJ knows Xize is DH , so there is no deception there? 

I love this side of DHs .. he's such a great lover.. the way he treats FJ so lovingly ..so caring..his soft voice , softest stare , softest caresses ..and that open mouthed kiss.. Make my heart fluttering..make me feels giddy..:love:.

 

 Agreed with Liansong..:D

 

 DH's thoughts after he give FJ memory altering pill :

"would she hate him when she recalled this period? Off course he had thought of this, it was giving him a slight headache. But unlike warfare's strategies, where counter measures could be arranged in advanced, he could only improvise when the time come. Once he saw her reaction, he would know how to coax her again "

 

Dongfeng's consummation.. another altered..another intriguing new plots , we have yet to see..so anxious :sweatingbullets:

can't wait..

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DH is a complex character, he's not a "perfect hero", and he shatters a lot of drama troupe/romance novel ideals, and shatters FJ expectations too so I get why some people don't like him. he's an "anti-hero". Reading/watching is like seeing a rock learn how to love, how to be a person, and how to communicate. He gets it wrong a lot of the time though he has good intentions.

 

There's a line that accurately describes how he decides what to do, it's like he'd use whatever means necessary regardless of "right or wrong" as long as it was useful he didn't really care

Also when it comes to his XB, he's always surprised by her actions/reactions and isn't quite sure what to do. 

 

He gives himself credit for seeing FJ's potential and worth, but she's the one I think who had "keener" sight  or just as keen as his lol,  he's also a diamond in the rough who FJ polished.

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14 minutes ago, xiaoxf said:

DH is a complex character, he's not a "perfect hero", and he shatters a lot of drama troupe/romance novel ideals, and shatters FJ expectations too so I get why some people don't like him. he's an "anti-hero". Reading/watching is like seeing a rock learn how to love, how to be a person, and how to communicate. He gets it wrong a lot of the time though he has good intentions.

 

There's a line that accurately describes how he decides what to do, it's like he'd use whatever means necessary regardless of "right or wrong" as long as it was useful he didn't really care

Also when it comes to his XB, he's always surprised by her actions/reactions and isn't quite sure what to do. 

 

He gives himself credit for seeing FJ's potential and worth, but she's the one I think who had "keener" sight  or just as keen as his lol,  he's also a diamond in the rough who FJ polished.

Yah just like how he broke yan chiwu 1000 lives formation without even thinking twice:phew:...if it would have been ye hua or bai qain they would have still thought for a second:sweatingbullets:

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