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I'm completely gobsmacked by the criticisms of young Joseph's performance. So far he's nailed the role in all its essence.  He's probably the most age-appropriate ZWJ that I've seen. And I love how he

About to get sentimental on you guys. I think I've finally realized why I'm borderline obsessed with this version of ZM/ZWJ, as opposed to just being a passerby viewer in the previous versions. This v

@kur4p1k4 thank you kurapika for the information. ZM and ZWJ are indeed the best couple beating all the odds. I think they are representing most of us people so we can feel the love.   

5 hours ago, LaurenPanna said:

 

Coincidentally I rewatch it too after i subbed... I want to thank vicious219 for helping to upload, to amend the timing and arrange everything properly and nicely. Deeply appreciate. Its a totally different feeling watching with Eng Subtitles. 

 

I would like to do one more, which episide is the top favourite for every one which has not been subbed yet? 

 

34 & 38 :grimace:

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Found this interesting poll, when JY passed away last year they put a poll in weibo who is the most unforgettable couple? The poll is still open

http://hk.weibo.com/mkt/2018/jingyong/index/2

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I'm actually surprised ZWJ-ZM is the 1st by a huge margin. This poll was taken before the new HSDS comes out

I thought GJ-HR will win since HR was always the fave character by most JY's readers.

Or at least it will be three way between GJ-HR, YG-XLN, ZWJ-ZM.

Definitely not slanted this much towards ZWJ-ZM.

 

 

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54 minutes ago, kur4p1k4 said:

Found this interesting poll, when JY passed away last year they put a poll in weibo who is the most unforgettable couple? The poll is still open

http://hk.weibo.com/mkt/2018/jingyong/index/2

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I'm actually surprised ZWJ-ZM is the 1st by a huge margin. This poll was taken before the new HSDS comes out

I thought GJ-HR will win since HR was always the fave character by most JY's readers.

Or at least it will be three way between GJ-HR, YG-XLN, ZWJ-ZM.

Definitely not slanted this much towards ZWJ-ZM.

 

 

Nice find @kur4p1k4 although you need a China cell phone number to vote! :(

 

Alas... but yeah I was fascinated that "favorite book" is Legend of the Condor Heroes (33%, with HSDS only 25%) but unforgettable couple is ZWJ/ZM (52% with GJ/HR at 22%).... so there is a significant segment of people who like Condor Heros best of all the stories, but ZWJ/ZM of all the couples. Interesting!

 

[Blame Tony Leung, Gigi Lai and the other unforgettable actors/writers/directors who have made the world mad for ZWJ/ZM for so many years!]

 

@jackieusa Joseph has a new drama?  Do you have any other information? Be fun to see him in modern garb... but I get the feeling I'm going to be growling/barking at his leading ladies for awhile because none of them will be Zhaomin....

 

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@kur4p1k4 thank you kurapika for the information. ZM and ZWJ are indeed the best couple beating all the odds.

I think they are representing most of us people so we can feel the love. 

 

Imagine you're a man secretly harbors some forbidden desire to a girl which her status is very very high. In this case ZM is a princess while ZWJ just a rebel leader, he's not just a lowly peasant but someone with a death sentence in his name. They are so much different yet the man quickly extinguished even the slightest hope in him in having her. 

But to his surprise, the girl does not give up easily, she keep pushing even only a bit of hope she's more than ready to bet with everything she has although it almost costs her, her life. ZWJ scared to death that ZM could die under pressure from both sides. He keep asking her to go back home and live her splendid life, but she just persistent and his wall of defense just broken down. After that there's no turning back, he went ballistic on the world, and hell yeah he got the girl. It's like a man got his favorite idol/actress/model/princess as wife. 

 

For us ladies, ZM is the bravest one we could never be. From the moment she got swayed by him, she let herself openly although risking her life on it. She refused to bow down to anyone, she asked everyone to accept her as who she is. She know what she wants and ready to snatch it from everyone although she might face the worst outcome. Even in modern world, we ladies tend to choose the 'safest choice' for man, man in our league. ZM dared to choose ZWJ with his reputations, he is orphan with no wealth, demonic cult leader, womanizer, rebel leader with mysterious personality,  his family and friends scorned her. But she sticked firmly to her choice and she got her man. She believed this man is the one for her and will cherish her as much she cherishes him. How many of us can do or dare the same? I bet not many. In level of braveness, ZM is a dragon and i as a bee look up to in an awe.

 

ZM and ZWJ are the representation of our craziest, darkest, naughtiest, deepest dream but they made it possible that's why so many people love this couple. 

 

Sorry for the long post, everytime i visit this forum everyone here inspired me by new POVs and news. 

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51 minutes ago, LaurenPanna said:

 

Ok will try my best! 

 

And i also must start watching the TVB version starting from tonight as my Minmin finally is appearing!!! 

I’m been waiting too for tonight eps. Minmin arrived.

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Don't ever watch episode 40 with a tired mind  orz

I wanted to throw everyone especially ZR and Ming sect, except YX, ZSF, YL, YBH and RYW (maybe), inside a volcano.

All of them are ar******, ZM really suffered too much, I just want to hide her and put a blanket on her and give her hot chocolate

 

Even WJ is insufferable in here

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7 hours ago, Yitian_fan said:

 

@jackieusa Joseph has a new drama?  Do you have any other information? Be fun to see him in modern garb... but I get the feeling I'm going to be growling/barking at his leading ladies for awhile because none of them will be Zhaomin....

 

This is his new drama going to air on 05/19.  I think he only playing the support role though.:dissapointed:

 

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1 hour ago, kur4p1k4 said:

Don't ever watch episode 40 with a tired mind  orz

I wanted to throw everyone especially ZR and Ming sect, except YX, ZSF, YL, YBH and RYW (maybe), inside a volcano.

All of them are ar******, ZM really suffered too much, I just want to hide her and put a blanket on her and give her hot chocolate

 

Even WJ is insufferable in here

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Is that the episode right after the break up? Yeah, I was so furious with WJ in this episode. He was just so lovey-dovey with ZR at Wudang. URGH. And ZR was so two faced here too. That's why, I still insist that she got away too easy. She lied and lied and lied to everyone about what happened and everyone is so okie-dokie about it. Such hypocrites. 

 

One scene that stood out for me in this episode (if I got it right) is the ZM and her father scene. That is so heart wrenching. Yukee did a good job here. I look forward to seeing more of her acting in the future. 

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For Vietnamese fans, I combined all parts of Vô Kỵ and Triệu Mẫn chatting and drinking together at the restaurant. As you can see, my HSDS captures are biased toward Wuji and Zhao Min scenes. ;)

 

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Watched tvb version for the first time last night 

 

Skipped to the last part to wait for minmin 

 

I understand Cantonese very well and it's my favourite dialect but omg the voice over totally put me off from continuing to watch. They all sound v stagnant. Wuji sound abit cartoon? 

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29 minutes ago, LaurenPanna said:

Watched tvb version for the first time last night 

 

Skipped to the last part to wait for minmin 

 

I understand Cantonese very well and it's my favourite dialect but omg the voice over totally put me off from continuing to watch. They all sound v stagnant. Wuji sound abit cartoon? 

 

Is the mandarin technically dubbed too because it's not their original voices? I know sometimes the actors have different accents depending on where they live, Taiwan vs China etc.

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25 minutes ago, kimmortal said:

Is the mandarin technically dubbed too because it's not their original voices? I know sometimes the actors have different accents depending on where they live, Taiwan vs China etc.

 

Technically yes for most the younger actors I think. I know ZWJ - ZM - ZZR are all dubbed with voice actors.

However for some of the older actors I think it's their original voice like ZCS - XX - YX

 

Depends on the popularity of the actors also. Zhou Xun, the actress in Ru Yi's Palace, her voice is so special she never get dubbed I think.

 

Dubbing is also mostly done if they couldn't get a clean sound of conversation when they shot the scene. So might as well just dub everybody to make sure the conversation is consistent and clear

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28 minutes ago, kur4p1k4 said:

 

Technically yes for most the younger actors I think. I know ZWJ - ZM - ZZR are all dubbed with voice actors.

However for some of the older actors I think it's their original voice like ZCS - XX - YX

 

Depends on the popularity of the actors also. Zhou Xun, the actress in Ru Yi's Palace, her voice is so special she never get dubbed I think.

 

Dubbing is also mostly done if they couldn't get a clean sound of conversation when they shot the scene. So might as well just dub everybody to make sure the conversation is consistent and clear

 

Yes, even if it's original voices it's still dubbing - just that the original actors go back to the studio to dub their own lines.  For Mainland dramas, I think they arrange voice actors for everyone but if the original actor has a suitable voice and is willing to commit extra time, then they can go back and dub as well.  I saw an interview with Zhang Binbin once and he said he's not used to watching himself on screen with a different person's voice, so he always tries to dub his own dramas even though it's hard to fit into his schedule.

 

1 hour ago, LaurenPanna said:

Watched tvb version for the first time last night 

 

Skipped to the last part to wait for minmin 

 

I understand Cantonese very well and it's my favourite dialect but omg the voice over totally put me off from continuing to watch. They all sound v stagnant. Wuji sound abit cartoon? 

 

Agree!  TVB is never good at dubbing.  Everyone sounds "off", especially WJ.

 

Do you watch HK dramas in their original voices then?  I recall when we lived in SG, all TVB dramas were dubbed in Mandarin until we figured out how to convert back to Cantonese on the TV box, haha.

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BTW, just read that due to the popularity of the latest remake of "The Heaven Sword and Dragon Sabre", China is going to remake “The Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain” <雪山飛狐> and there are rumors on casting Lin Yushen (林雨申) as Hu Fei’s father.

 

Full article here - https://www.jaynestars.com/news/china-to-remake-the-flying-fox-of-snowy-mountain/

 

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1 hour ago, achng said:

BTW, just read that due to the popularity of the latest remake of "The Heaven Sword and Dragon Sabre", China is going to remake “The Flying Fox of Snowy Mountain” <雪山飛狐> and there are rumors on casting Lin Yushen (林雨申) as Hu Fei’s father.

 

Full article here - https://www.jaynestars.com/news/china-to-remake-the-flying-fox-of-snowy-mountain/

 

 

If this is true, I’d be very happy. I’ve been waiting for a decent remake of Flying Fox. I liked TVB’s 1999 version with Sunny Chan, even if it strayed very far from source material. It also starred like half the cast of HSDS 2000. :lol:

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2 hours ago, achng said:

 

Yes, even if it's original voices it's still dubbing - just that the original actors go back to the studio to dub their own lines.  For Mainland dramas, I think they arrange voice actors for everyone but if the original actor has a suitable voice and is willing to commit extra time, then they can go back and dub as well.  I saw an interview with Zhang Binbin once and he said he's not used to watching himself on screen with a different person's voice, so he always tries to dub his own dramas even though it's hard to fit into his schedule.

 

 

Agree!  TVB is never good at dubbing.  Everyone sounds "off", especially WJ.

 

Do you watch HK dramas in their original voices then?  I recall when we lived in SG, all TVB dramas were dubbed in Mandarin until we figured out how to convert back to Cantonese on the TV box, haha.

 

Yes, I always watch the Cantonese undubbed version of tvb dramas and I love it. So Cantonese is one of my favourite dialect. But this voice over for HSDS really sound off. 

 

Yeah!!!! I am happy that they finally remake Flying fox. My favourite character is Cheng Lingsu, one of the most intelligent girl in Jinyong universe. Hope they cast a suitable actress for her role. I thought lin shen is more suitable to be miao ren feng instead of Hu Yidao. My personal opinion 

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