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6 minutes ago, katakwasabi said:

 

Exactly. I was sad when he opened the 1988 gang file. Huhu. I really dont want TJ to kill himself. But i like the theory that he joined the past, but did not change anything.

 

Anyone here watched the original UK version? Did the 1988 gang really exist like the korean version? 

 

 

If you have the chance to change the past, would you if the past was pleasant and you knew the future is bleak? I don't think he wants to change the past, more to live with something his heart identifies with.

 

There was a gang... @40somethingahjumma would be able to answer that. :)

 

2 minutes ago, aisling said:

 

If he was in coma, it wouldn’t explain how he knew all accurate details about 1988 people and cases. If he time travelled, it wouldn’t explain why he was lying in a hospital all the time and didn’t disappear. I’m not sure how that ending will effect my love for this drama. I had hoped they’d come up with more logical explanation.

 

Well, I think we are supposed to believe that he was in a purgatory phase while in coma (near death) where he met all the souls of the dead.  He didn't time traveled.  All the policemen and women who died while on duty, they souls are not freed and trapped.  They need resolution to move onto heaven.

 

Preview E16 finale

 

 

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@triplem as much as i ship NY and TJ and adore the 1988 gang, i still dont want TJ to kill himself. He needs counseling to help combat his feelings of self destruction. Huhu

 

I miss the 1988 gang, but TJ needs a gang in 2018. Mannn, i really dont want him to jump.

 

Anyways, i went around googling brain surgery and found that patients are expected to stay 2 to 5 days after brain surgery, exact length depends on many factors (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/neurology_neurosurgery/centers_clinics/brain_tumor/treatment/surgery/post-surgery-care.html). So maybe it is possible for TJ to be fine quickly after getting shot in the head, and having brain surgery :ph34r:? It still doesnt make sense to me, but LOM does not really make sense anyway hohoho. He has no head scars, and his hair is as long as it has ever been heh.

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8 minutes ago, bedifferent said:

Well, I think we are supposed to believe that he was in a purgatory phase while in coma (near death) where he met all the souls of the dead.  He didn't time traveled.  All the policemen and women who died while on duty, they souls are not freed and trapped.  They need resolution to move onto heaven.

Yes ,  I had this idea a few episodes back...not sure if the rest were real , but that his soul was in some sort of purgatory in order to find closure for his dad's death. in some ways he was "destined" to meet the 88 gang because they were all involved with his dad's case and also KHS / KMS case . 

2 minutes ago, katakwasabi said:

@triplem as much as i ship NY and TJ and adore the 1988 gang, i still dont want TJ to kill himself. He needs counseling to help combat his feelings of self destruction. Huhu

 

I miss the 1988 gang, but TJ needs a gang in 2018. Mannn, i really dont want him to jump.

 

Anyways, i went around googling brain surgery and found that patients are expected to stay 2 to 5 days after brain surgery, exact length depends on many factors (https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/neurology_neurosurgery/centers_clinics/brain_tumor/treatment/surgery/post-surgery-care.html). So maybe it is possible for TJ to be fine quickly after getting shot in the head, and having brain surgery :ph34r:? It still doesnt make sense to me, but LOM does not really make sense anyway hohoho. He has no head scars, and his hair is as long as it has ever been heh.

What i was hoping for originally was that the 88 gang was a projection of the people in the present. So he somehow will meet a  Na Young or a DC. But so late in the game it would be hard to bring that into the story

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8 hours ago, triplem said:

Yes ,  I had this idea a few episodes back...not sure if the rest were real , but that his soul was in some sort of purgatory in order to find closure for his dad's death. in some ways he was "destined" to meet the 88 gang because they were all involved with his dad's case and also KHS / KMS case . 

 

What i was hoping for originally was that the 88 gang was a projection of the people in the present. So he somehow will meet a  Na Young or a DC. But so late in the game it would be hard to bring that into the story

 

Yes, I remember you were very close to figuring it out :lol: TJ got over his trust issues and disappointment of not knowing why.  I think the drama's ending (if they are going this route and not throwing us for a loop late) is quite spiritual.  TJ got the chance to see and us the chance to know there is an afterlife.  One which we can have a full life, a happy one, such as our current one.  There is no question or fear of the unknown.  For TJ, he will be alone once his mom pass away.  We don't live forever but if he can choose an afterlife to continue on, this ain't bad.

 

Stay tune for the romance with Na Young.

 

Ratings (AGB Nielsen)  E15 (8/3/18):  4.657%

 

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Ep 15 subs are out! Lets try to arrange taejoo's timeline B). This timeline is based in my assumptions so it may be wrong, please feel free to comment :D

 

Earlier half of 2018

I really dont know which month taejoo was shot. So i tried to find clues in ep 1 and found this interesting tidbit: TJ arrived in 1988 in February, 207 days before 1988 olympics which is 23 February 1988. The 1988 olympics started on 17 September 1988. 

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April - May 2018

The expiry date on KMS's milk cartons were in April and May 2018. 

 

June 2018

I assume TJ woke up on 3rd June 2018, coinciding with the 1988 gang's date of death. However, the news clip shown on the TV at the hospital was an event that happened in May - President Moon visited US.

Spoiler

 

Based on the assumption that TJ woke up in June or late May and he was in a coma for a month, maybe it can be assumed that he was shot in late April or early May 2018.

 

July 2018

No info. I assume TJ is recuperating after brain surgery. His mom did say something about outpatient treatment. And it gives time for his hair to regrow hehe

 

August 2018

One of the latest murder victim was killed or found on 7th August 2018.

 

 

 

 

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After watching with subs, I get a feeling he will go back to 1988.

 

I suppose death is like one long dream.

 

EDIT: I am preparing tissues and strengthening my heart for the finale.

 

 

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I guess it is really the first time i wish and fear for an ending the same time.

Checking the original I was prepared - but I was thinking the whole time if I like this ending or not... and still I am not too sure. BUt in the real time TJ now is lost and lonely and I love his Gang and even his heart is captured somewhere else - but on the other hand - his Mum will be heartbroken.

A still beautiful old lady...

 

Am i ready to let go today? No !

I will rewatch the latest Episode now - I was so damn tired when the subs came out - and I feared I can only watch a few minutes than I will fall asleep - but this show is so good It kept me on the edge of my seat for nearly the complete time - but in the last ten minutes - I lost it...

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About the finale...

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Well, seeing the previews, it seems like they chosed the end of the original series, seeing that TaeJoo wants to go back to 1988...

 

Spoiler

The sad news is that in the sequel (Ashes to Ashes), the main  lead reads the files of the uk version of HTJ (the BBC original lead) and it says suicide... Like, I don't know if it is a limbo or a "mind travel", but both options had HTJ's body ALIVE, and in the end, there is no body (live) to contain the mind/soul/whatever of HTJ whether in the present or the past or in the limbo... which means that he really dies :tears:

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, katakwasabi said:

Ep 15 subs are out! Lets try to arrange taejoo's timeline B). This timeline is based in my assumptions so it may be wrong, please feel free to comment :D

 

Earlier half of 2018

I really dont know which month taejoo was shot. So i tried to find clues in ep 1 and found this interesting tidbit: TJ arrived in 1988 in February, 207 days before 1988 olympics which is 23 February 1988. The 1988 olympics started on 17 September 1988. 

 

April - May 2018

The expiry date on KMS's milk cartons were in April and May 2018. 

 

June 2018

I assume TJ woke up on 3rd June 2018, coinciding with the 1988 gang's date of death. However, the news clip shown on the TV at the hospital was an event that happened in May - President Moon visited US.

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Based on the assumption that TJ woke up in June or late May and he was in a coma for a month, maybe it can be assumed that he was shot in late April or early May 2018.

 

July 2018

No info. I assume TJ is recuperating after brain surgery. His mom did say something about outpatient treatment. And it gives time for his hair to regrow hehe

 

August 2018

One of the latest murder victim was killed or found on 7th August 2018.

 

 

Actually he got shot in April. If you noticed in the beginning of 1st episode, TJ got mention the date that he was recording of his findings.  And also they showed the calendar in his apartment when his mother called to say his father's prayers coming soon. 

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Episode 14

As heroin hits the streets of Manchester for the first time, CID and DCI Hunt want culprits for the smuggling, the dealing and the ensuing violence. This becomes difficult when Annie is kidnapped by the smugglers. As Sam tries to get to the source of the influx of this deadly drug, he finds himself intractably drawn to a beautiful young woman who was witness to a heroin-related shooting... and who, he later realises, is the mother of his girlfriend in the future. At the same time, Sam's 'visions' reveal that his girlfriend has decided to stop visiting him in hospital, as she can't keep waiting for him to wake up.

 

Episode 15

In spite of DCI Hunt's testimony, a seemingly water-tight court case fails to put away a local gangster accused of breaking a boxer's hand. Unable to cope, Gene turns to alcohol but soon finds himself in a spot of bother. When it appears as though Hunt may have killed someone, it's up to Sam, torn between Gene and his replacement, Frank Morgan, a DCI who actually uses Sam's modern police techniques and vocabulary, to help him out.

 

Episode 16

Sam learns that an operation is to be conducted on him in the future to try to remove a tumor and revive him from his coma. He is told by Morgan that he has to remove the cancer in the police force first. Hence, to return to 2006, he has to gather incriminating evidence on Hunt in 1973. However, the lines between reality and delusion are blurred when Morgan reveals to Tyler that Tyler is actually undercover. During a botched sting operation, Sam returns to the future, but decides to jump off a building to return to the past again where the life and people he knows exist.

 

If you read the ep14,15 and 16 UK version, quite different from the Korean storyline. 

 

I am hoping still that TJ will be able to move on... I am scared to watch the finale.. 

I cannot believe next week no more Life on Mars.. So fast this drama has come to its end.

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Four more hours to go!

Thank you everyone for sharing your thoughts about LOM (Korean edn). I don't think I have plans to watch the original series it is based on. I have to say that this drama was well-written with all the strings which may seem tangled in the beginning, however we see them unravel and the story becomes clearer.

 

I, for one, would say that if TJ thinks that his life (2018) has not much meaning and he prefers the life in 1988, it is a decision he makes.

I think the little romance he has with NY is sweet as he is the first to appreciate her sweet smile and her quick brain (poor unrequited NS). In cold scientific light, one can speculate that TJ most likely had seen these cold case files and saw the file of these dead police officers and during his time in limbo, he lived a life in 1988 with these characters. If he does intend to join them, I don't think it is to change the past but to live the present with DC, YG, NS and NY.

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And the way he looks at NY - my hardened non-shipping heart melts.

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Just saw ep 15.The end had me heartbroken. 14 episodes with the gang and now we find out they all died. I guess u can't have both a brilliant drama and a happy ending.

And I have a question. How come HTJ's mom doesn't remember him being in 1988 as an adult? I mean, KMS remembers him and he was only a kid then, but his own mom doesn't. 

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19 minutes ago, sheelatpsfm said:

 

Actually he got shot in April. If you noticed in the beginning of 1st episode, TJ got mention the date that he was recording of his findings.  And also they showed the calendar in his apartment when his mother called to say his father's prayers coming soon. 

 

Thank you for the info. I was wondering when he was shot. I might have overlooked that scene hehe

 

Did you guys know that PSW gained 10kgs for this role :o. I came to LOM only knowing him, because i watched manXman before. I'm glad i decided to watch LOM too. 

 

And i'm so glad that a lot are praising LOM. 

https://melohwa.blogspot.com/2018/08/life-on-mars-ep-15-is-jung-kyung-ho.html?m=1

 

[Life on Mars] Ep 15 Is Jung Kyung Ho going to go back to 1988 to save his colleagues?

 
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Article: Naver 'Life on Mars' Jung Kyung Ho reads Kwak Jung Wook's files.. "So it wasn't a dream"
  • Han Tae Joo (Jung Kyung Ho) wakes up in 2018 and realizes everything he had experienced in 1988 really did happen. 
  • Serial murderer Kim Min Seok (Choi Seung Yoon) gets arrested along with his brother that was supposed to be dead back in 1988. 
  • Han Tae Joo finds out that his team mates in 1988 had died on that day when he was about to save them before waking up. 
 
1. [+204,-1]
Ah, they're all dead. ㅜㅜ
 
2. [+110,-3]
Ah, this crazy drama.. it's too interesting. ㅠㅜ
 
3. [+63,-2]
Seems like they are going to follow the original series... but I can understand it.
 
4. [+56,-3]
A happy ending please... Please do a different ending from the original series.
 
5. [+53,-2]
My heart hurts just looking at the chief smiling. ㅠㅠ Even the OST is sad. What do you mean last episode..  ㅠㅠ I want to see more.
 
6. [+20,-1]
I teared up when I saw that Dong Cheol died... I was hoping for everyone to be alive.
 
7. [+16,-0]
This is too much. ㅠ What do you mean everyone died... ㅠ
 
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  • Park Sung Woong was so passionate that he gained 10kg in weight for his role in Life on Mars. 
  • Kang Dong Cheol is becoming another one of his life character after Lee Joong Gu in New World.
  • His acting is getting more appreciation from viewers. 
 
1. [+1023,-5]
Joong Gu-hyung's acting is no joke.
 
2. [+672,-6]
Life on Mars is so interesting~ People who didn't watch it, please watch it. People who likes time warps, detective stories, mysteries, I strongly recommend this drama~ It was fun watching the drama being serious and adding comical elements in the story.
 
3. [+396,-13]
I didn't watch from the beginning yesterday, so I was curious. But while I was curious what happened after last week's ending scene, Jung Kyung Ho was looking over the documents, seeing the word 'died on duty' I was so sad and shocked. 'Died' was written on Park Sung Woong's character, my tears flowed out. It was so sad. The scene where they fought with the gangsters got overlapped.. I guess we can see that again tonight. Everyone suddenly disappeared into thin air, I felt so empty.
 
4. [+256,-5]
If they went with Im Chang Jung for the role, I'm ready to go back to 1988 
and change Detective Kang to Joong Gu-hyung nim.
 
5. [+210,-9]
His role in New World was so strong that it came to my mind everyday. But in Life on Mars, he was a totally different person! He even gained weight for this role. ㅋㅋㅋ I beccame a fan. Jjang!
 
6. [+178,-9]
Seriously, rather than a 430 billion Lee Byung Hun in Mr Sunshine, Life on Mars is so much better in terms of their cinematic quality and acting. This is this year's best drama.
 
7. [+72,-0]
It's sad that today is the last episode. Articles for Life on Mars are rare, that's a pity too.
 
8. [+70,-8]
Life on Mars is a great drama. Amongst all of the dramas this year, this is the best. The acting, casts, script, are all great. 100 times better than 430 billion won Lee Byung Hun in Mr Sunshine.
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"You can't change the past but you can learn from the past and change the future."

 

That I suppose is the lesson that the returning HTJ learns as he finally lays hands on the elusive "manicure killer", KMS. He didn't travel back to the past in the way we understand time travel a la Back to the Future. I believe the better description would be that he relived the entire experience in order to gain an insider's understanding of the events and background to KMS' killing spree in the future. In that regard this reminds me of one of my favourite Star Trek: TNG episodes, "The Inner Light" in which a key character from the Enterprise gets transported into an alien time and place and ends up living a lifetime in that world to gain insight into a civilization whose end had come. There were no survivors of that race, all that was left were memories in a probe for passing travellers to stumble onto. But he was more than just a passive bystander. He really lived it all in the space of an hour. 

 

Like many others along the way, this was an excellent episode and a better than decent wrap up of the Manicure Murders. TJ wasn't transported to 1988 to change history but to find more clues or link them in a coherent fashion to make sense of the difficulties in solving the case in 2018. There was no hope of saving KMS and all the women he murdered... tragically... all that could be done was to prevent further carnage that he and his brother wreaked. Certainly we aren't privy to the mechanics of this "time slip" event yet but it does make sense that TJ was ushered into that period for very specific reasons beyond the personal. 

 

I don't think the show ever rejects TJ's rigidly scientific approach to crime solving out of hand. What it does is to show that science has its place and can be a great tool but it needs to be part of a larger tool kit in criminal investigations. One of many approaches... whether it be gut instinct, psychological profiling and active leg work. Crime solving is a complex activity involving many kinds of skills and expertise. It sounds like a cliche but team work held together by trust is at the heart of things. There's no doubt in my mind that TJ is still a man of the 21st century despite the fact that he finally managed to bond with the team in 1988. To his credit, his time in a comatose state was a learning experience... to rethink his approach to the investigative process, to take on board the criticisms and alternative perspectives to broaden his own skill set. I loved how they managed to bring DC, YG, NS and NY into the present as voices in his consciousness or ghostly remnants of his memories spending time with them to help him think through the case.

 

I also really liked how they brought Seo Hyun back in this. It's a lovely repudiation of the 1988 chauvinism in that it showed that women can run investigative teams efficiently and men can learn to work under the leadership of a woman who is good at her job and delegates tasks effectively.  She certainly runs a well-oiled machine. It was also good to see TJ's mother in 2018... I believe the actress was in Tunnel as well as the professor that raised the female lead.

 

One of the greatest regrets that I have regarding this show is that I won't get to see TJ and NY go undercover as husband and wife. I had really hoped that they would give us that much but alas that was not to be. ;) But that doesn't of course diminish what this adaptation has achieved. Not one whit. 

 

 

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I forgot to mention too... as a sometimes ukulele player, I was thrilled to bits that Israel Kamakawiwo'ole's rendition of "Over the Rainbow" was featured in last night's episode. Of course a salient reference to Wizard of Oz and Dorothy returning from her time in Oz. Here's me hoping that that reference will point to an ending that's more like the WoO than the BBC one. Heh. :D

 

 

@Dramanoona

To be fair I think there was a lot more development in 1988 than 2018 so we're naturally more attached to the characters in that era. ;) But TJ had to return to 2018 to help the solve the case... what he does now that all of that is done and dusted will be interesting. I'm wondering if they'll give us another twist from the BBC ending. It may not end up being what we think. 

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