[Drama 2018] Life 라이프

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2 hours ago, staygold said:

 

Dr Joo knows a lot more than most people in the hospital. I won't be surprised if he has teamed up with Sun woo to check on the fund transfers in late director's account. I have great respect for Dr Joo's character because he stays on in the system knowing it is flawed. He walks into the OT knowing his chances of success are low. There is so much dedication. His juniors are angry at him. His nurses are asking ER not to send him patients. 

I  like this actor . Especially after SF.  That part where he fell asleep in the OT speaks volumes of his dedication. In the file where Goo was checking his background, it seems he is here temporarily. What’s the significance of that information? 

 

@bedifferent Thanks for the information . Is it possible for a hospital to operate without an ER? How can they close an entire department ? Every hospital in my country has one .

Weekend approaching! I will catch up soon 

[staygold]

21 minutes ago, triplem said:

I  like this actor . Especially after SF.  That part where he fell asleep in the OT speaks volumes of his dedication. In the file where Goo was checking his background, it seems he is here temporarily. What’s the significance of that information? 

 

I understood that the Sangook hospital hires most of its staff( more importantly the department chiefs) from their university itself. Dr Joo came from a small town and smaller hospital. So in some sense he is always an outsider. Someone who rose to the position on the sole basis of his talent n skills and not hospital politics.

 

Here is Dr Joo taking a break from his work! 

 

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cr: https://twitter.com/_a_amm_m_/status/1027797846857113600

 

 

[lingkoo]

[HanCinema's Drama Review] "Life" Episode 6

 

 

A surprising decision by Seung-hyo turns the tables and brings the planned strike to a halt, leaving everyone in "Life"wondering where to go from here, right before they find another obstacle in their way. What has begun as looking like an outrage-du-jour plot waiting for us gets a welcome injection of intrigue, as Seon-woo seems to have a lot more weighing on his shoulders than he lets on, opening a whole new can of works for the drama's mysteries.

 

Seung-hyo (Cho Seung-woo) has been an entertaining character to discover, and this is largely due to the writing's lack of the usually unadulterated idealism we see in other such stories. Seung-hyo is no villain, but he is also not some misunderstood unicorn just waiting to be appreciated in order to stop being a big meanie. He is a businessman who gives you one thing and takes back five, and no number of cute children will change that overnight.

 

 

His next big plan for the hospital comes at a time when a new chapter opens for its inner workings, with the hastily forgotten death of Bo-hoon (Chun Ho-jin) making a comeback to remind us that someone needs to take his place, and how important that position is.

 

This is where we start to see everyone's true colors. Se-hwa (Moon So-ri) and Tae-sang's (Moon Sung-keun) ambition is clear, but I wonder if Kyeong-moon (Yoo Jae-myung) will give it a go.

 

I also wonder if we will finally address the elephant in the room that is the Director's death. "Life" would become very boring, very quickly if not for a main conflict, especially with Seung-hyo's role being more of an antagonist, rather than a villain. We would be left with a constant one-upping between him and the staff, with no main goal to speak of. If Hwajeong Group's involvement and the Director's death have more to them than meets the eye, this story has a focus.

 

 

Which brings me to my opener about Seon-woo (Lee Kyu-hyung) and his role here. We are starting to see the writer's plans for him that I previously mentioned take form. The question is, what are they? Has he been working with someone, perhaps Kyeong-moon, to investigate the death, or possibly provide ammunition against Hwajeong? Nurse Kim  Eun-ha (Lee Sang-hee) has also shown suspicious behavior, so maybe we have a group doing things in secret.

 

If they are, then I wonder if Jin-woo (Lee Dong-wook) will eventually join them. At this point, my assumption that he may simply be an observer of the real protagonists feels very likely, and is perhaps for the better. I just hope that the story has a clear trajectory for him that will not designate him to forced romance unrelated to the main conflicts, something the end of episode six gives me more concrete reasons to worry about.

 

"Life" is directed by Hong Jong-chan and Lim Hyeon-wook , written by Lee Soo-yeon-I, and features Lee Dong-wook, Cho Seung-woo, Won Jin-ah and Yoo Jae-myung.

 

 

 

Written by: Orion from 'Orion's Ramblings'

 

[lianee]

So adorable

 

 

[ladycaedus]

3 hours ago, lianee said:

So adorable

 

 

 

I love the contrast between Wookie’s expression in bts pics and when he acts as Ye Jin Woo ❤️ Shows what a great actor he is ❤️ Can’t wait to see how his character will unfold as the story goes on ❤️ YJW seems to be the quiet and reserved observer right now, but because of the issues arising within the hospital, he’ll slowly start to change and (hopefully) start to actively fight for the hospital and save the day ❤️❤️ Love the realistic approach to his character btw! He’s not the typical active main-stream hero right from the start. No-one’s born thinking like a hero after all. 

[lianee]

 

49 minutes ago, ladycaedus said:

 

I love the contrast between Wookie’s expression in bts pics and when he acts as Ye Jin Woo ❤️ Shows what a great actor he is ❤️ Can’t wait to see how his character will unfold as the story goes on ❤️ As of now, he seems to be the quiet and reserved observer, but because of the issues arising within the hospital, he’ll slowly start to change and (hopefully) start to actively fight for the hospital and save the day ❤️❤️ Love the realistic approach to his character btw! He’s not the typical active main-stream hero right from the start. No-one’s born thinking like a hero after all. 

 

Yes,  Dr. Ye ,  Dr. Joo and  Dr. Lee will have different opinions in some situation.

Can't wait to find out what kind of situation it will be.

[bedifferent]

Official MV for OST 2, Ye Jin-Woo's song.  I love how Dr. Joo turns Dr. Ye's badge around at the beginning of the MV.  Conviction, courage, truth.  All starts with believing and knowing who you are.

 

 

 

 

@staygold Jin-Woo settled for being the cog in the wheel at work with his mind on saving the patients the best as he can.  Maybe it is his personality like you said.  It's what he is good at and study years for, he sees this as his burden for not having suffered the injuries his brother and father did. Many doctors are like this. They are not ambitious or calculative enough to turn the blind eyes toward patients to advance their careers.  Some physicians retire in the same hospital that they started as residents.  They understand the extraordinary in their seemingly ordinary careers.

 

There will be a time when he won't need the imaginary brother to help him say the right thing.  He'll be confident enough to make his own decision without doubting himself and be fine with the consequences.  His hands won't shake anymore. I don't think he will stay forever an observer @ladycaedus 

 

Jin-woo already is curious.  He looked at the hospital book to see how things work with board members.  Hospital president has to approve the elected director's post while the director can oust the president from his job.  This check and balance system is not perfect and can be exploited, which we found out later when Dr. Kim and President Goo decided to join forces.

 

Waiting for the right calling... 

 

@triplem  I don't think the true intention of president Goo was to close the departments.  He used this strategy to peg down his opponents and turn public opinions against the hospital.  He knows fully that physicians will oppose the transfer; voicing even threatening to strike makes them look bad since their reasons are not beyond personal and financial. It's a brilliant move because of the sheer improbability it will happen. I see it as a temporary strategy to buy him time while he is learning to cut cost in other ways.  Know what eventually set all president Goo's plans into actions:  the resident's medication error!  That was his winning hand.

 

Remember how he turned the table on them in the auditorium?  

 

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Are you ready to do the surgery to heal Korea of its illness?  I heard our doctors, who swore to set aside race, religion and social status and to abide by their duties toward their patients...

 

 

 

Many hospitals can choose have trauma center closed (closing the ER would face lots of opposition). In the US, we cannot turn away and have to treat every patient irregardless of their insurance/financial status.  Trauma centers need a lot of support in terms of money, staffing. It's tougher for university hospitals since they are training sites for residents.  They would have to close the ER rotations.  No training, less ER doctors will just compound the problems more down the line.  Less and less primary care physicians.  There need to be incentives for physicians to have interests in the field so they can continue caring for us.  They're only human.

 

A lot of viewers are disappointed that the physicians forgot their Hippocratic oath.  It's not simple as it looks if we see how the national insurance program works in SK.  The reimbursement is higher than the Medical Aid program.  Thus why physicians prefer bigger cities, larger hospitals, as opposed to public smaller rural hospitals where patients are often from lower income groups.  President Goo has already proposed the pay-per-performance tier where physicians are encouraged to use the more expensive treatments/drugs to get higher reimbursements.  Conflicts of interests bound to happen. Physicians dedicated their time, training, money in exchange for a career that will reward them emotionally and financially are caught in the middle.  You can't take the money part away and expect job satisfaction to fill their happiness bank or help them pay back the $$ student loans.  We have to find a way to even out the reimbursements so that it is not a handicap for physicians to practice in rural areas.  This also need to happen to balance out physicians count in the country because it's too crowded in Seoul like No-Eul said.

 

BTW, @staygold the RFID didn't come from the goodness of his heart.  Was a calculated move on Seung-Hyo's part really... The fatal medication error happened because the resident did not have a safety check process in place (no one to double check him).  Usually when that happened, the physicians are required to study the error (mortality conference) and seek solutions to prevent more errors of the same kind in the future.  Seung-Hyo understood this so successfully planted his own solution and trojan horse into the situation.  Yes, on the surface, it looks like he is revolutionary and a savior for coming up with RFID, to help patients.  In reality, he found a way to successfully use his hospital to fund his own drug company subsidiary.  The nurses started to place their trust in this device while becoming attached to its safety promise.  They realized later that a drug company supplied their RFID in exchange for having an exclusive drug contract with the hospital.  One of the RNs admitted that she feels indebted to use the drugs since the RFID helped them.   Mr Goo is a business man through and through.  

 

President Goo is one character that you can't help but be on guard at all time. Dr. Joo already know this. He is rigged with ulterior motives.

 

.... however, it's JSW so I cannot hate him.  

 

[bedifferent]

Fan servicing for a great actor.  Lee Kyu-Hyung & his moments.

 

First off, throwback.

 

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Brothers.

 

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Geometric galore. I'm sure this is intentional.

 

Couch potatoes, ship!

 

 

Healer, heal thy self.

 

 

Inseparable

 

 

 

 

Filming together on the last day.   They both survived.

 

 

Mommy and I.  Absolutely love the actress. Nam Gi-Ae never disappoints.

 

 

Wonder if Sun-Woo will stir them into actions.  He did not let his handicap stop him. What's their excuse?

 

 

Waiting, waiting, waiting... pure unconditional love.  This scene is cute beyond words. Remind me to go pet my dog.

 

Same PPL, different crowd.

 

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[hamaji]

Go seung hyo episode 2 

 

 

 

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[bedifferent]

Dropping off photos of the most favorite Kdrama people for me atm. 

 

Honorable or idealistic? Takes an outsider to see and fix things.  I hope they can meet President Goo in the middle.

 

 

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Take more time to go outside and appreciate the world Dr Ye.  It's fine to go without Sun-Woo.  

 

 

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Passing by his mentor.  

 

 

 

 

 

Stands apart from his peers

 

 

 

Looking for a mentor and friend.  

 

 

One step at a time.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Looking in.  He's like the painful surgery that is needed to remove the tumor plaguing the hospital.  Not a bad guy per se.

 

 

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Don't touch.

 

 

The assistant's look said it all.

 

 

What will they do with the land?

 

 

History best not forgotten.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Did you climb this high up the ladder because you were afraid of losing your job?

 

 

 

 

 

No-Eul

 

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Supporting players

 

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Sun-Woo

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Why the look?

 

 

 

 

All credit: Life JTBC

[Guest]

@bedifferent Secret Forest , Prison Playbook and now this - whatever character Lee Kyu Hung takes on , I find myself drawn to him. I am glad he crossed over from stage to drama. He’s a very versatile & capable actor.

 

While watching eps 3 , some things struck me :

1. YJW is paralysed emotionally . He seems stuck . He uses his brother’s condition as an excuse to not make changes . When No Eul suggested the three of them to go open a clinic by the beach, he uses Seon Woo as an excuse . SW is perfectly capable of looking after himself and does not bear any grudges against his bro.  Why is JW living like he needs to make up to SW? 

2 . for me I think there’s some sort of romantic affection between YJW & No Eul. But it’s also obvious that SW is enamoured by her , which i believe is why YJW holds back. No Eul on the other hand treats SW like a brother, someone she needs to look out for.

3. So SW went to med school . Why’s he in insurance investigation? 

4. Dr Joo - clearly a man of principle with a heart of gold . I liked that he wanted to fight the system the right way with no tricks

5. What’s with the transplant coordinator ( played by Tae in Ho and the nurse ) . He seems obsessed with her . Also he’s the spy !!!!

6. The relationship btwn President Goo & his Secretary are hilarious. I cracked up at how she fangirls over Dr Ye . Greek god !!!

[bedifferent]

YAY @triplem, you are catching up.

 

1) I'm compelled to be protective of Jin-Woo (or maybe LDW) here cuz I think he's hard character to play.  JW unable to let go of the guilt from his childhood that he takes on the responsibility of a caretakers for everyone in his life.  From his brother to patients, he's mentally and physically spent.  I don't think he has any more inclination or energy to go beyond the drill of day to day.  He's too busy to be involved and looked at issues beyond his own until the death of his mentor.  I have to lay part of this on Sun-Woo who clearly clammed up when they are alone and is a totally different person with others.  I wish they find a way to talk about this barrier between them.  Perhaps Jin-woo's career as a physician is a painful reminder of Sun-woo's missed opportunity so he has to mentally make peace with this loss.  On the other hand, did Jin-Woo become a doctor because of his brother's accident?  Choosing to be an ER doctor is a way for him to address his guilt of not able to save his family as a child?  I hope the drama will mend their relationship in later episodes.  

 

2) Yes, there's some flirting and attraction going between JW and No-Eul.  Sounds like the three were childhood friends.  I feel like No-Eul knows JW likes her, I don't see her reciprocated that feelings the same way yet.  She is protective of Sun-Woo like his brother. Agree with his social awkwardness when it comes to the reporter.

 

3) A lot of MDs, nurses, pharmacists work as consultants for insurance companies to process claims and reimbursements.  Insurance companies need specialists to understand the case and verify that the appropriate care was given to patients.  Most are to justify the cost but many also are needed to judge whether the care did not violate patient's rights.  Examples are to protect you from having your teeth crowned for no reasons, having a hip replacement when you don't need it yet, get treated for a disease that you were misdiagnosed.  Bottomline is to make sure the hospitals/physicians don't abuse the system for financial gain.  Theses jobs appeal to people who want to have flexible schedule as you can work from home and don't have to be clinicians on site.  Makes sense that Sun-woo works at HIRC given his disability.  I think his specialty is orthopedic surgery though he is on the ethics review committee.  He was investigating the reimbursement fund that supposedly went into LBH's private bank account instead of the hospital's. Sun-Woo's career translated to how JW relies on him as his voice of conscience.

 

4) Dr. Joo seems too good to be true at this point. I love his character though sad for his personal sacrifices over his family.  Where did he go after they dropped him off?  

 

5) I think the next scandal is going to be organ transplant, specifically the wait list.  

 

6)  I like how the drama showed another way to approach medication error.  ER Chief Lee So-Jung didn't sweep resident Park's antibiotics (mis)charting error under the rug like the Oncology Chief.  She reprimanded and sternly pointed out to him the harmful error (double dosing the patient).  The mistake was made unintentionally since his mind was preoccupied, thus why we see the need to supervise residents in training closely.  He was lucky that someone caught the mistake.  Eating his criticisms earlier about how the oncology resident could have err after so much training.

 

New stills (E7).  JW confronting the deputy director Dr. Kim as the race for the director position heats up.  Suspicious that Dr. Kim has something to do with Seon-Woo's wheelchair status.... Jin-Woo mentioned about a medical error during his long hospitalization after the accident. 

 

 

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Life is like a spiral staircase.  You may think you climbed high but when you look down, you can see the path you walked on.

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[azuwaza163]

I ship No-Eul with Mr Gu. She is intrigued by him, as he is with her. It’s cute that she always makes him startled. I like that No Eul has her opinions/takes on things, instead of just agreeing with her seniors. Perhaps, she is the one who could challenge Gu’s conscience, in a good way. Heck, bottom line they are freaking adorable together lol. JW on the other hand has better chemistry with the reporter. JW & No-Eul are more like best friends who have each other backs. 

[bedifferent]

@azuwaza163 He likes dog, she likes puppy.  Ship sailed.  Mr Goo was all flustered when she rang the intercom, he cannot resist her puppy charm.    

 

Edit:  I forgot to say he ate her sandwich.  Really quick too, was hungry, cuz he wiped the corner of his mouth before entering the office. lol

 

Look at how cute WJA is BTS.  She’s an animal lover and has worked on promoting dog adoptions.  She has the best smile! 

 

Is this the same dog Mr Goo played with?

 

 

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@hamaji  Looks like President Goo has to meet with NHIRC to get clearance for his new drug subsidiary contract with the hospital.  Sun-woo may catch on to the illegal internal scheme. 

 

 

 

[Guest]

Thanks for always clarifying my confusion @bedifferent . I am slowly catching up. Am watching episode 4 ,I want to know why Goo was slightly hesitant in buying the land even though he worked very hard to get the deal through. What’s that whole Seosan Prisoner bit about ?

[bedifferent]

1 hour ago, triplem said:

Thanks for always clarifying my confusion @bedifferent . I am slowly catching up. Am watching episode 4 ,I want to know why Goo was slightly hesitant in buying the land even though he worked very hard to get the deal through. What’s that whole Seosan Prisoner bit about ?

 

Not sure if I helped that much lol.  Am happy you are watching with us. 

 

Here you go, about the Seosan land.  Another social engineering similar to the one in Life on Mars.  

 

Hwajeong CEO wanted to get the Seosan property owned by the Minister of Environment’s father for the new hospital. The elderman refused many offers to sell due to its history and his continuing hope of rebuilding a community there.  He said he was a thug so I am guessing he was part of the ROK Juvenile Pioneering Group who was forced by the Park regime to relocate to Seosan and worked on rejuvenating the land.  Vagrants, ex-inmates, ex gangster were rounded up, forced to work without pay in land reclamation projects.  He even mentioned with shame about mass marriages with female workers. They were promised to receive the land that they worked on as payments but the government refused to acknowledge ownership to many.  The older man’s father was one of a few lucky ones who got the promised parcel.

 

The father continues to live on the barren land knowing that his son is ashamed of their family’s past.  When Goo showed up wanting to broker the deal, he mentioned the man’s stubbornness can cause trouble for his son, a govt official, if he refused to have the hospital for the needy built here.  Goo didn’t quite do his homework (think he was careless and arrogant) about the property’s history.  He realized the personal attachment and its significance after hearing the story yet has to continue with the lie.  The father sold the land thinking his son will lose his post if he doesn’t.  Goo feels a twinge of regrets, his conscience almost made him stop the man from signing.  He finally looked up Seosan on the way home.  I’m not sure what the plan is now that the expansion is on hold.

 

https://www.voanews.com/a/in-s-korea-ex-vagrants-want-land-promised-for-forced-labor/3798751.html

 

[kmsl]

This series made me fell in love with Cho Seung-woo. Would really binge watch Stranger after this. My bff is looking with a \told you so' face after I said this to her 

 

also, me is this ahjumma while watching every episode with Lee dong-wook:

 

[annagriss8]