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[Drama 2018] Something In The Rain / Pretty Noona Who Buys Me Food, 밥 잘 사주는 예쁜 누나

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11 minutes ago, jus-ash said:

 

Seriously,  13-14 years? in Witch's Romance? Whoa! Didn't realize. I enjoyed that drama - it was nice to have an intelligent strong leading lady who stood for no nonsense and kicked ar*e.

And her sudden loss and then unwavering determined search for her mom was really heartbreaking. 

I so was shipping the couple, as were folks elsewhere in other forums - Dramabeans, and a couple of others ... with folks writing that they wished a little more couple moments were given to them.

 

 

 

I think you’ve confused Witch’s Court and Witch’s Romance. :) 

 

As for noona romances, I’m definitely not saying that they don’t exist. They do. Just that they are still not seen as the norm. It may be that the entertainment business is a front runner in this trend as older women are still seen as desirable since so many actresses are attractive, talented, and beautiful even as they age. But even in the entertainment world, having the women be the older of the pair, especially by any significant years is not considered the norm. And it starts with the women themselves who find it harder to accept having a younger boyfriend/husband.

 

in America, it’s called being a cougar, I guess, when a woman has younger partners, with a number of women not liking that concept either. *shrug*  And America is a much bigger country with a much bigger range of accepted pairings than the as-yet relatively conservative society in Korea.

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1 hour ago, stroppyse said:

 

I think you’ve confused Witch’s Court and Witch’s Romance. :)  

 

I DID - realized that after the fact, and edited.  :lol:Enjoyed BOTH dramas too, though not in a head over heels kinda way.

Was like seriously ... they didn't seem 13-14 yrs apart? With the wrong drama in mind.  Actually neither did they in Witch's Romance. Seemed maybe 9-10 yrs apart ....  but wow 13- 14 = timing, is yes quite off then, in life expectations and stages of life. 

 

As for noona romances, I’m definitely not saying that they don’t exist. They do. Just that they are still not seen as the norm. It may be that the entertainment business is a front runner in this trend as older women are still seen as desirable since so many actresses are attractive, talented, and beautiful even as they age. But even in the entertainment world, having the women be the older of the pair, especially by any significant years is not considered the norm. And it starts with the women themselves who find it harder to accept having a younger boyfriend/husband.

Yes definitely less conventional. But just saying compared to What's Up Fox Days ... it's just seems LESS of a huge deal in 2018.  Esp when it's only 5 years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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in America, it’s called being a cougar, I guess, when a woman has younger partners, with a number of women not liking that concept either. *shrug*  And America is a much bigger country with a much bigger range of accepted pairings than the as-yet relatively conservative society in Korea.

"Cougar" I think refers to a HUGE age gap type (more like Witch's Romance age gap) - where lady is could be akin (age wise) to being his mom ... less of an insignificant 5 yr age. Can you imagine gorgeous SHG being called a cougar? to her baby faced husband?  :lol:

 

 

Speaking of more Noona-Dongsaeng romance ... wasn't Ha Ji-won also older than Hyun-bin in Secret Garden? Or he was just emotionally stunted?

 

 

 

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@jus-ash In real life, HJW is a few years older than HB, but not sure age was a factor at all in SeGa. 

 

I’ve heard cougar used to refer to anything more than a few of year’s age difference. I’ve been told that a woman isn’t if they could have been at college together, but anything more than that is one. But this isn’t my definition by any means. Nor is it a term I use.

 

Changing topics a bit, looking at all the stills makes me happy to be watching an adult romance rather than too-young leads with chasre near-kisses or some weird alternate world where the OTP has to be untested virgins despite being in their 30’s. :D 

 

 

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Totally in love with this drama!!! Please let me know if you guys have a website to livestream the drama!!!! Cant wait

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Subb for ep 4 is out. You can watch it

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Anyway I am new here but is crazy about this drama...does this thread do the live recap for tonight? I like to join. Or do you have any live stream for me to watch?

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@stroppyse @kaoriharang JA and the question of marriage:

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For instance, if GM had proposed to JA instead of cheating on her, JA probably would have married him. In a way, JH is right that JA got lucky that GM made such a big mistake. 

You are right to point out that but let us not forget that JH has been misjudging JA-KM's relationship from the start. JH thought and has been told that JA was very passionate with KM. First, he heard that KM broke up with JA because he described her as "Konjac" and JA was devastated. He thought that her pain was connected to her love for KM, yet in my opinion he was not right. JA was feeling down as another person was criticising her again. 

From my point of view, the moment JA started dating KM, her mother's comparisons and reproachs increased. KM let her feel inferior. As time passed on, JA started losing confidence... hence the break-up didn't really surprised her. That's why I believe that the relationship was getting nowhere and JA knew it. JA knew that something was coming hence SK supported her over the phone. JA was feeling burdened all the time with KM. Notice how she bought a dress and shoes in order to make a good impression but deep down, she was anxious and anticipating some bad news. That's why she never mentioned marriage... her mother and KM had made her feel insecure and unworthy. She didn't feel the need to marry him. Yes, if he had proposed, she might have agreed but not because of love or her wish to get married. 

 

As for JH, his anger, jealousy and frustration towards KM reveal his own insecurity. Since he has a false conception of JA-KM's relationship, JH is scared that JA might go back to KM. For JH, KM only made one mistake (and now two mistakes). But the relationship between KM and JA was not good at all even before the break-up. It had a negative impact on JA. In my opinion, deep down JH also knows that he has less to offer than KM (family, social status aso) and their relationship will encounter more hardships. On the other hand, JH is definitely more mature than KM in the end. KM acts like a spoiled child. He only chose JA because the other left him and someone showed an interest in JA. That's not love at all. He actually looks down on JA and her family. Despite his cheerful teasing, JH is much more mature and level-headed than KM as he had to grow up faster due to their family situation. His insecurities about how to confess indicate that he was really serious about JA. He knew that once he starts dating her, it can not have the same meaning than dating a younger girl. Marriage is in perspective for JA... and for me, JH is well aware of that. He was happy to hear the comment of JA's father which gives us a clue that he already has the intention to marry her. 

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Zombie waves to @supergal99 ..yeayyyy I plan to tag you before the airing tonight...yeayyyyy I am happy that you come here...pls stay here with me...I am new here... 

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38 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

@stroppyse @kaoriharang JA and the question of marriage:

You are right to point out that but let us not forget that JH has been misjudging JA-KM's relationship from the start. JH thought and has been told that JA was very passionate with KM. First, he heard that KM broke up with JA because he described her as "Konjac" and JA was devastated. He thought that her pain was connected to her love for KM, yet in my opinion he was not right. JA was feeling down as another person was criticising her again. 

From my point of view, the moment JA started dating KM, her mother's comparisons and reproachs increased. KM let her feel inferior. As time passed on, JA started losing confidence... hence the break-up didn't really surprised her. That's why I believe that the relationship was getting nowhere and JA knew it. JA knew that something was coming hence SK supported her over the phone. JA was feeling burdened all the time with KM. Notice how she bought a dress and shoes in order to make a good impression but deep down, she was anxious and anticipating some bad news. That's why she never mentioned marriage... her mother and KM had made her feel insecure and unworthy. She didn't feel the need to marry him. Yes, if he had proposed, she might have agreed but not because of love or her wish to get married. 

 

As for JH, his anger, jealousy and frustration towards KM reveal his own insecurity. Since he has a false conception of JA-KM's relationship, JH is scared that JA might go back to KM. For JH, KM only made one mistake (and now two mistakes). But the relationship between KM and JA was not good at all even before the break-up. It had a negative impact on JA. In my opinion, deep down JH also knows that he has less to offer than KM (family, social status aso) and their relationship will encounter more hardships. On the other hand, JH is definitely more mature than KM in the end. KM acts like a spoiled child. He only chose JA because the other left him and someone showed an interest in JA. That's not love at all. He actually looks down on JA and her family. Despite his cheerful teasing, JH is much more mature and level-headed than KM as he had to grow up faster due to their family situation. His insecurities about how to confess indicate that he was really serious about JA. He knew that once he starts dating her, it can not have the same meaning than dating a younger girl. Marriage is in perspective for JA... and for me, JH is well aware of that. He was happy to hear the comment of JA's father which gives us a clue that he already has the intention to marry her. 

 

you made a good point chingu about KM and JA's relationship.

KM and her mother really put her down all the time that eventually that relationship was going to snap regardless of whether or not JH was in the picture.

 

Sadly JA did not put her foot hard enough which was why she got all this drama. Plus the fact that her mom chose not to listen to her.

 

I think it is normally for JH to think of marriage rather early on. I mean he isnt that young that marriage is not in this immediate future. So the whole idea of JA-JH's relationship was rather levelled? They started a little but on the wrong foot but quickly took care of them when they confirmed each other's feelings for each other quickly and straight forward.

 

For once, there is not much beating around the bush. JA may have struggled a bit with her feelings towards JH, nothing wrong with that.  But the attraction was there from the start. Thats why I was so pleased that it was JA that took JH's head first, she needed to make the move. JH was still in a grey zone as to how JA felt about him.

 

1 hour ago, stroppyse said:

@jus-ash In real life, HJW is a few years older than HB, but not sure age was a factor at all in SeGa. 

 

I’ve heard cougar used to refer to anything more than a few of year’s age difference. I’ve been told that a woman isn’t if they could have been at college together, but anything more than that is one. But this isn’t my definition by any means. Nor is it a term I use.

 

Changing topics a bit, looking at all the stills makes me happy to be watching an adult romance rather than too-young leads with chasre near-kisses or some weird alternate world where the OTP has to be untested virgins despite being in their 30’s. :D 

 

 

 

 

I know that when it comes to age, the idea of noona-young man is not uncommon in Korea. But overall age is always a factor for women especially. sorry to do a general sterotype.

 

haha that is true, well this is an adult romance so we should see more you know better kisses :tongue:

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@bebebisous33, I don't necessarily disagree with most of your assessment, however, I think that JA was really into GM earlier in their relationship, by JA's own admission, plus her brother saying how JA and GM were so lovey-dovey all the time, not to mention her coworkers' comments. It's just that after a year, the relationship had started to break down, it seems because GM just wasn't as much into JA any more. JA knows something is wrong, and she's expecting GM to break up with her. Frankly, I"m not sure that JA really thought too much about whether she was still in love with GM. At 35, there is intense pressure to get married, not just from one's family, but also from other people around her. I don't know that JA would have inspected her own feelings clearly to see whether she really wanted to marry GM herself, rather than worrying about whether GM still wanted her.

 

However, without GM having acted the way he did, I think JA would have gone on to marry him, because it was the thing to do, because she had once been in love with him, because everyone around her including her mother would have been happy for her. Maybe it wouldn't have been because she really, really loved him any more, but it probably would have been because it was past time for her to get married, and everyone around her would have expected her to get married. Remember, she had a personality which wanted to please when we first meet her. 

 

But as we both agree, JA knew when she went to meet GM after buying a new dress and shoes that GM was probably going to break up with her. And, per KS' instructions to not lose to GM, meaning don't let him get the best of her or be able to look down on her, she buys a feminine dress and shoes. Btw, I loved KS' reaction later that all JA did was to buy some clothes rather than to arm herself for war against him, which probably would have been a complete makeover with stiletto heels that she could dig into his foot as she disposes of him, rather than allowing him to break up with her. :)

 

I think JA never brought up marriage because the relationship had already started going sour, meaning she felt she was losing his interest, and she wasn't confident that she could get him to propose to her. And her mother's expectations being what they were, JA didn't want to start that conversation. They also mention in the drama that GM is not JA's first boyfriend. So, her mother has had raised expectations that JA would get married before only for JA to break up for whatever reason.

 

Anyway, other than disagreeing that JH has an entirely wrong idea about JA and GM's relationship while they were dating, I think the rest of your assessment is pretty on. Initially, I had wondered if JH had had a crush on JA when they were younger, but actually, I think that when JH comes back from America to see JA again, he is looking at her with fresh eyes rather than the eyes of a younger brother.

 

I do think that JH is serious about JA, and that he is totally in love with her. He knows her after all, though he's rediscovering her as a woman rather than as his older sister's friend. JA is insecure being the younger man with less to offer JA and her family of those qualities that Korean society values and that he understands that JA's mom at least also values highly. He is also insecure of whether JA takes him seriously, not just as an attractive younger man that she's attracted to as well, but as a serious partner for life.

 

Anyway, I do think that JA and JH are very good for each other. JH helps JA be more self-confident and not feel the need to follow the rules and please people. I think that JA can help JH overcome some of the darkness that we've seen in him and help ground him.

 

 

 

 

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Ops ops sorray @Jusyedi dun have any link to watch live.

 *whisper* me juz a lurker here. :grimace: was juz flying past :tongue:

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Ok chill i m sure u will enjoy this thread coz i see alot of nice chingus here too ...heee

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@stroppyse I don't see any disagreement between your post and mine. I know that JA was in love with KM in the past but the passion disappeared as KM never took care of JA. In my opinion, he always made her feel inferior which changed the dynamic in the couple. JA allowed him too many things. When JH appeared, JA had already stopped loving KM and was just with him because they had been together for so long. That's why I wrote that JH had a false conception of JA-KM's relationship. They had already reached a dead-end, yet JH misunderstood JA's clothing at the dinner. Actually, she wanted to insult KM but JH thought, JA was dressed up in order to impress him. 

JA was in pain because KM made her feel that she was the reason for the break-up. He blamed her which is quite harsh as he was the one who was cheating on her. KM has never protected her from her harassing superiors too. He never intervened, while JH pays attention to her workplace and her well-being. KM had always been self-centered in the end.

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today is April 13, and i’ve checked netflix but still not there. I think it’s not available in ME for the time being :huh:

 

south east asia got it but not in middle east oh why :bawling:

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I wish Netflix would figure out how people in US actually follow kdramas live. It's dumb to wait to release it until it's over. People like me just find a way to watch it before they release it, cause I want to watch it live so I can enjoy the show along with the rest of the world and hear opinions on the show rather than having it feel like everyone is watching and I have to steer clear to avoid being spoiled. 

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Looks like we where right, netflix owns the rights to this drama. It still kinda sucks because it will only be available in Canada one week after the drama is done.

 

Im not trying to knock down all the hard work the rubbers did but I haven't watched the subbed episodes yet because from the clips I've seen online the translation some of you are doing here is way better.

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I am in Australia and usually I am sad because a lot of what I want ot watch isn't available in my region on Viki or Netflix.  I feel like I hit the jackpot on this one because Somthing in the Rain is on my Netflix and I can marathon all 4 and be ready for 5 and 6!  Yayayyaayayayayay!

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1 minute ago, WinCee said:

I am in Australia and usually I am sad because a lot of what I want ot watch isn't available in my region on Viki or Netflix.  I feel like I hit the jackpot on this one because Somthing in the Rain is on my Netflix and I can marathon all 4 and be ready for 5 and 6!  Yayayyaayayayayay!

Good for you.

when it will be available on Netflix for ep 5? Will it be like tomorrow ?

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