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[Drama 2018] Shall We Live Together/ Marry Me Now? 같이 살래요

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@ajummapunkinssi @chasen8888Appreciate your responses!

Somehow I still feel ET is too emotional to be a (senior) doctor. How does he cope with his patients' deaths? Does he always blame himself? Docs should have seen more life and death cases than any ordinary folks and they should be aware that they are beyond their control in many cases. 

So he's not ready to be a parent to his own child but is willing to risk as a stepfather? JJH has warned him that it's not easy to raise another person's child (that's the only thing I agree with JJH) but ET is not giving it a thought.

ET knows what his dad has done to cause him much pain as a kid so I am sure he will not follow his footstep. So what's his problem when he's ready to be a parent to ES before the blood scare? For HS, SH seems to be born out of wedlock as he 'didn't have the right and unprepared' for parenthood' so I can understand. For ET, It's too dragging and I can't empathise his plight unless he has hated YH/ES all these while. I want more happy moments of ET/YH/ES, please. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, newyee said:

@ajummapunkinssi @chasen8888Appreciate your responses!

Somehow I still feel ET is too emotional to be a (senior) doctor. How does he cope with his patients' deaths? Does he always blame himself? Docs should have seen more life and death cases than any ordinary folks and they should be aware that they are beyond their control in many cases. 

So he's not ready to be a parent to his own child but is willing to risk as a stepfather? JJH has warned him that it's not easy to raise another person's child (that's the only thing I agree with JJH) but ET is not giving it a thought.

ET knows what his dad has done to cause him much pain as a kid so I am sure he will not follow his footstep. So what's his problem when he's ready to be a parent to ES before the blood scare? For HS, SH seems to be born out of wedlock as he 'didn't have the right and unprepared' for parenthood' so I can understand. For ET, It's too dragging and I can't empathise his plight unless he has hated YH/ES all these while. I want more happy moments of ET/YH/ES, please. 

As a doctor I am sure he has experienced loss and many cases of life and death, he has worked in volunteer cases in countries where access to good medical care are seriously lacking, however, the difference between life and death choices with patients and with your own child are vastly different. As a parent I can’t imagine being in his place. I can’t imagine the feelings he has to be trying to work through and I don’t think it has anything to do with the difference of it being his biological child it not. He was faced with a crisis where he believed he had done harm to his own child (he would have felt that wether it was biological or not with ES) which brought reality to the surface.. I know when I brought my children home from the hospital the happiness and positive feelings I had with them, but I almost lost one of my children one day because of a medical condition. That moment is forever molded in my mind and emotions. That fear of losing them, of making the wrong choice that could have saved them or not.. it brought a reality to me that just daily life did not. I think that’s where he is now. He has been thrown the fact that he is the biological father of a child he didn’t know existed, yes.. he was ready to take he as his own but the shock of the truth was huge, he donated to her possibly poisoning her.. he has no parental rights to her etc.. he has tons of emotions to work through and I think he has every reason to.. I would worry more if he has no emotional reaction to all of it. Although, I do think he should be a little more concerned with her mom because she is having it just as bad if not worse than he is.. 

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As much as I dislike that MY made a deal with WAM, I think MY’s action stem from the time in the past when HS/MY/WAM had that conflict in the shoe store and HS was upset with MY for possibly aggravating the situation for SH. He basically told MY that he can tolerate any offenses against him for the sake of his children’s happiness. I think MY understands what he meant then and is basically acting in the same way hoping that giving in to the covetous MIL would grant SH a certain level of peace and goodwill at home.

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@ajummapunkinssi  I am sorry about your experience. That is part and parcel of life. Anything can happen to anyone as long as you are a human. At this rate, ET will surely not consider having a second child. The message sent to viewers is a negative one too, consider the already low birth rate in developed countries worldwide. 

 

I would prefer ET to be a courageous and positive-thinking man who can give YH (who is ill-fated in love) a happy future soon. He should tell JJH he won't produce any offspring besides IVF ES. JJH would beg YH to marry ET then. 

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8 minutes ago, newyee said:

@ajummapunkinssi  I am sorry about your experience. That is part and parcel of life. Anything can happen to anyone as long as you are a human. At this rate, ET will surely not consider having a second child. The message sent to viewers is a negative one too, consider the already low birth rate in developed countries worldwide. 

 

I would prefer ET to be a courageous and positive-thinking man who can give YH (who is ill-fated in love) a happy future soon. He should tell JJH he won't produce any offspring besides IVF ES. JJH would beg YH to marry ET then. 

 

I really do think that we should give ET some time to deal with his emotions. As a parent myself, I can understand his fear and anxiety even when my child is healthy. There is always a first time for anyone, and this “first time” for ET was really huge to deal with. I’m waiting for him to sort out his emotions and be back, mentally and emotionally prepared to stand alongside YH and fight for their happiness together. 

 

And also, I don’t think ET was always this emotional when dealing with patients. YCK himself said that ET always had a good relationship with his patients and their guardians. We were just not shown these scenes in the drama.

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20 minutes ago, newyee said:

@ajummapunkinssi  I am sorry about your experience. That is part and parcel of life. Anything can happen to anyone as long as you are a human. At this rate, ET will surely not consider having a second child. The message sent to viewers is a negative one too, consider the already low birth rate in developed countries worldwide. 

 

I would prefer ET to be a courageous and positive-thinking man who can give YH (who is ill-fated in love) a happy future soon. He should tell JJH he won't produce any offspring besides IVF ES. JJH would beg YH to marry ET then. 

Ehhh this is an extraordinary situation I am surprise he is having rational thoughts right now.

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I find it so hilarious how shocked DY was when she connected the dots to finally conclude that she and her uncle are dating siblings. LOL I wonder if we’ll have a scene later just for the sake of amusement where the couples are trying to rationalize away the absurdity of their family entanglements. I think ET/YH have the advantage though. 

 

MY must be loaded because from what I understand, her ex-husband’s debts are exorbitant. She must be a saint to take responsibility for his debts. 

 

CSW is a real piece of work but I guess it shouldn’t surprise me that he tried to blame ET for the whole situation including returning to Korea from abroad. 

 

I really want SH to find out about WAM’s deal with MY.

 

Oh so HH gave MS permission to look at JH’s stuff. Well, it’s better that it’s in the open now so the story can move on.

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Simply because you are my child and I am your FATHER...

 

Forgive me...

I can understand the fears that ET has but I am a bit surprised in his dealing and reflecting on being ES's biological father even with all he has been through.  I know he is in shock and just went through a horrible situation and yet a part of me wonders where is that courageous man who picked up ES brought her there and claimed she was his daughter in front of his sister and others.  Where is that man who whispered in her ear and gave her a renewed hope and faith in being  able to trust in a mans words.  Where is that man whom went into that hotel room and quickly wrapped her up and held her ever so close to his chest and took her away from there....

 

I can understand his confusion and I am thankful he went to YH's Dad for advise and understanding.  I just never really thought his character would ever be one, from everything I had seen thus far who would run away instead of facing it head on.  He always seemed so calm and caring that seeing this side of him and in a way his lack of understanding for YH and ES somehow doesn't feel right to me.  ES asking about where he was and him not seeing her after finding out she would be ok.  Forgive me just didn't fit with the man I thought I knew...

 

I know his past and his fathers lack of love for him and his sister left scars that are still not all the way healed if ever.  But what's happened isn't about his past but more about his future and I guess I was hoping that he would be in a way happy about being ES real father even in knowing it wasn't his choice.  Still it gives him rights he didn't know he had and a real chance at giving her the love that she never received from the man she thought was her father.  I always saw ET as her Daddy even before I knew who he really was.  It's not just about blood it's even more about love...

 

I hope he doesn't take long to find his way back the them because YH is struggling and hurting and ES needs his love, comfort and strong arms to hold her too...

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Their are a million reasons why ET should be upset he missed 5 years of his daughter life all those special moments like first word or first step he cant get back

 

But he is more worry about his daughter accepting him since like I mention this situation is very complex no would know how to react its not possible.

 

I mean this was rapid fire for him he found out that  she was his little girl and at that time believe she was sick because of him.

 

I am looking forward to everyone finding out that is going to be amazing.

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2 hours ago, celebrianna said:

I really want SH to find out about WAM’s deal with MY.

 The person I want to know this truth is not SH because she is a bit too soft but KS.  The one thing WAM fears most is losing control of her son, should KS find out about this nature of her and what she did, he will and should take action.  To me that would be more effective in restraining WAM.  HS will find out and get upset about it but will he take action?  SH should know last and side with KS in restraining WAM and not letting her off with said action.  MY does this for SH's/HS's sake but would they be happy about this?  Not sure, but they would be touched because it shows how much MY has embraced the Park family.

 

I swear MY is a multi-millionaire/billionaire she is that financially stable with her varied investments, to help with the ex debts is too much especially with loan sharks who are scum and over inflate the interest rate per second.

 

My language interpretation of the make up scene for DY/JH was wrong but, I guess I got the feeling between them  right.  We all said that JH should have been told from DY in order for him not to misread anything and JH clearly told her that. So now they have 1 secret between them i.e. ET/YH connection to HS/MY as DY connected those dots.  DY is right to be worried because she knows if her parents know they will not allow JH and her to see each other with the family dynamics, its also why ET kept this info a secret, its selfish but understandable.  All's fair in love and family dynamics.  DY is now given the boost from JH to be her true self around him, its not surprising that she lacked confidence especially with the past her, aspects of that is bound to carry over with the new person especially if its around the person that she liked for 10 years.

 

In the case of MS/JH, they need to have a talk like what JH did with ET earlier outside of the house.  One thing for sure is that MS knows that JH did not look down nor mocked him for liking someone or that it was DY.  JH for the most part was civil about it, so a talk scene is more suited for this.  

 

Gone for now.

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2 hours ago, celebrianna said:

I find it so hilarious how shocked DY was when she connected the dots to finally conclude that she and her uncle are dating siblings. LOL I wonder if we’ll have a scene later just for the sake of amusement where the couples are trying to rationalize away the absurdity of their family entanglements. I think ET/YH have the advantage though. 

 

 

Wonder if DY will keep it as a secret from JH just like what JH has done? Hope she is opened about it this time so they can unite to find a solution. Poor couple. Not just have to face one but two big obstacles ahead. ET/YH/MY/MS might have to come to their rescue towards the end of the drama. It's about a family sharing one another's burden afterall.

 

I particularly like the ending music of ep 39 which belongs to the 1960/70s. Match MY/HS couple perfectly. Please change that 'aegyo' song at DY/JH moments. Still get goosebumps with it. 

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1 hour ago, newyee said:

@ajummapunkinssi  I am sorry about your experience. That is part and parcel of life. Anything can happen to anyone as long as you are a human. At this rate, ET will surely not consider having a second child. The message sent to viewers is a negative one too, consider the already low birth rate in developed countries worldwide. 

 

I would prefer ET to be a courageous and positive-thinking man who can give YH (who is ill-fated in love) a happy future soon. He should tell JJH he won't produce any offspring besides IVF ES. JJH would beg YH to marry ET then. 

 

Sorry to partially disagree here. Why couldn't they have another child if they both wanted to? Since they are both doctors, they could easily have a consultation with a genetics specialist and get the information to make a decision one way or the other. ET didn't give ES the graft vs. host disease. Yes, he has a rare blood type, but there's no guarantee the next child would not have a different combination of genes and get a different blood type, right? (I'm not a geneticist or a doctor. But I am a parent to 3 children who have the same father: 2 of whom have the same blood type as dad and 1 who has my blood type.) They need to find out what the odds are and make an informed decision. I agree that if the genetic specialist red-lights the 2nd baby idea, then they should forget about it. But if it's 50-50 or better that they wouldn't have another child with the same issues, I'd say go for it. (JMHO)

However, I fully agree that this sends a bad message about having children, especially in a culture like SK.

I would also prefer that ET gets over his shock ASAP and gets down to the business of how to break the news to ES and protect her and YH from CSW and CHK. I understand he's got a million conflicting feelings, but he needs to take the lead here. YH is struggling too, yunno! ET needs to break this news to his noona too, and he's gonna have to deal with all of her "what will everyone think" mentality. He better be ready for a fight. Sadly, I can't imagine JJH begging YH to marry ET. She's too prideful.  

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ET may have taken his time composing himself to meet with his daughter but as a father and a prospective husband he never hesitated to take action to protect his family. He told CSW to give up on his demands and met up with CSW's sister and made it clear that he knows and will not hesitate to use information about an illegal transgression done by CSW that could destroy Heah Group. He then made a counter demand that CSW give up his parental rights on ES. Sister confirmed with CSW who told sister to give in to all the demands of ET. CSW will move and live to another country but he only asks to go to the amusement park one last time with ES as promised for ES to remember him by. 

 

ET's emotions maybe conflicted after the revelation that he is ES biological parent which made him face realities and the immense responsibilities of parenthood. He had long ago decided that he will not be a parent and have a family because he was afraid of passing the inherited blood disorder and because he was afraid to be a parent like his father who was well respected in his profession but terrible as a father. His sister JJH reaction from  their father's upbringing was to be controlling, selfish and narrow minded that ET and her own family can't have a reasonable discussion with her without an argument ensuing. ET met YH and ES, fell in love with both of them and changed his mind about having a family. He was determined then to be a good parent but may have thought of not having an offspring from his own bloodline. The fact that a child of his own blood was born and now inherited the disorder he never wanted to pass on because of circumstances that were not of his doing, not of his own decision or control frayed on his emotions. He needed to take a break to re establish his priorities. He may have thought and acted tough as ES stepfather before but he is now very scared. He is allowed to be. It understandable that when PSH reached out to him, he responded with a meet and a father/son talk. Beautiful, I had tears in my eyes. Next episodes will be ET/ES meeting and for ET to legally claim ES as his daughter. This will be emotional. Hopefully this will happen next episode.

 

It is a relief that MS/JJH secrets about DY finally divulged. This will test the degree of MS maturity and the strength of their newly founded brotherhood and sisterhood. Surely, HH will be in the middle of it all. MY and PSH were so excited to go home when they learned that MS was at home not on his visit day that they closed up shop and were going home to prepare dinner. I wonder what they will find at home. Will they find a melee involving all three kids? I am thinking this will be funny. I hope it will add to HH story line. I hope that MY will re think bringing back MS irresponsible father and let him stay where he is. 

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@shamrockmomOh, I didn't mean they can't have a second child due to medical problem. From what I deduce from ET's fear, he's psychologically unable to cope with having his own kid after the recent scare and his childhood scar from his father. ES is born not by ET's choice. Given an option, it seems that he won't want any more kid. 

 

@dramaninja "I am looking forward to everyone finding out that is going to be amazing."

This is what I have been eagerly anticipating well before the ES-ET bloodline is established. Disappointed with ET's 'averse' reaction to it even after ES is confirmed as not having that fatal disease. What a wet blanket.

 

 

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4 hours ago, newyee said:

Disappointed with ET's 'averse' reaction to it even after ES is confirmed as not having that fatal disease. What a wet blanket.

@newyeeIt was confirmed that ES did not have the blood transfusion reaction (not disease but an adverse transfusion reaction) that occurs when any family donates blood to family members who need it and can be 90% fatal, and not that she did not have the inherited disease because ES does have the inherited anemia which was confirmed by YH during a discussion with Dr Park episodes ago. Dr Park the pediatrician never said that the inherited anemia was a fatal condition since ES can get blood transfusions when the anemia worsens and she was prescribed anemia medicine. However her blood type is rare and that makes it more difficult but thanks to ET who has her blood type she has a blood pipeline. The inherited anemia does compromise and weaken her immune system and makes her prone to infection. It was the blood transfusion reaction YH was worried about because of the fatality count and ES was showing some symptoms that was possibly caused by blood transfusion reaction. However the ending diagnosis by YH is CMV or generalized infection. ES is getting better, taking her medicines and going home in 2 weeks. 

 

The fear of the graft blood transfusion reaction as the diagnosis because it was an emergency transfusion was what all the run around was all about because no one knew except for CSW that the donor of the blood was the father of the recipient. It is the drama plot chosen by the writers to expose CSW's misconduct and ET as the biological father. It was never explained in the drama why ES did not have the dreaded transfusion reaction. But I will rationalize it  that ES from the beginning was prescribed irradiated blood by her pediatrician to make all donated blood safe for her because of her compromised health.

 

I would not say that ET had an averse reaction but rather a normal one for him given all his history and what he had expected of himself. He just needed time to adjust his mindset. My opinion, it is better for him to get over his anxieties to make better and more rational decisions not effected by pre conceptions and emotions. He is human after all and imperfect

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guys remember how ET did take a break to think after finding himself falling for YH. after having his time out to figure out what to do he was all in convincing her to give him a change. so i think now we gonna see a determined ET after having his time out to settled his feelings and thought. we know when he have made up his mind he is very clear about what he want! Just let him have his time to cope with everything, so he can be 100% there for his two girls :) 

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@zenya22 Apologise for my poor english and usage of vocab :sweatingbullets: . My 'averse reaction' means ET is not responding excitedly to being ES bio dad (so far in ep 39) even after knowing that ES is not poisoned by him. I am not referring to the medical adverse or averse reaction.

I should have written ' unexpected/not so happy response'. :lol: . Sorry for the confusion....

 

I was responding to dramaninja about everyone will be amazed by the news that ET is ES bio dad but I feel that it's disappointing that ET himself is not even excited about it yet so it's quite the opposite to what I've expected. 

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On 7/30/2018 at 5:16 AM, newyee said:

@zenya22 Apologise for my poor english and usage of vocab :sweatingbullets: . My 'averse reaction' means ET is not responding excitedly to being ES bio dad (so far in ep 39) even after knowing that ES is not poisoned by him. I am not referring to the medical adverse or averse reaction.

I should have written ' unexpected/not so happy response'. :lol: . Sorry for the confusion....

@newyeeI understand what you are saying and my clarification is that ES does have the inherited anemia from ET.... which is the "poisoned" blood if you will. The possible fatal diagnosis that YH and CSW were afraid of was the blood transfusion adverse reaction  which did not happen and but she has the inherited anemia since (don't remember) many many beginning episodes ago and it is not fatal. 

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16 minutes ago, zenya22 said:

@newyeeI understand what you are saying and my clarification is that ES does have the inherited anemia from ET.... that is what is making him guilty, emotional and doubtful of himself. The diagnosis that YH and CSW were afraid of was the blood transfusion adverse reaction which did not happen but she has the inherited anemia the "poisoned" blood inherited and it is not fatal. 

Ah-ha! I got what you mean. I will wait for a little longer for ET to get over with it and accept the facts. Can't wait for the Park and Yeon family's reaction to the news. The Parks will be very happy for ES. DY will have a new cousin. JJH?? 

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