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@kellentia Yeah the japanese is good. There is 2 seasons. First one is called Hana Yori Dango(2005). Sequel is called Hana Yori Dango Returns or season 2. The series conclude with a movie. First season has 9 episodes and season 2 has 11 episodes. I love the soundtrack, Especially "Planetarium" by Ai Otsuka.

 

Beware of ending spoiler down.

 

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The thing that makes the japanese ending the best is because Makino(female lead) ends up pregnant in the movie at the end.

 

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15 hours ago, marielou92 said:

so in reponse to those people who are confused with what Daomingsi had plan, here is what I understand on how he will update the Daoming group:

 

Daomingsi will launch a start up incubator platform project which will be just one of the businesses of Daoming group.

 

And this incubator platform project that Ah Si is launching is a managemement consulting wherein they help those entrepreneurs or those small-sized firms develop their own business. 

 

the F3 would also be in partnership with the start up incubator project.

 

Then with the help of start up incubator platform, they will expand the special eight treasure sauce of Shancai, this is just one of the start-up businesses that Daomingsi’s start up incubator platform project will help/improve

 
 
okay that’s it guys!! sorry for the letter size, I’ve typed in my iphone note first then copy pasted it here :D

 

He basically stole Xioami's business plan. Incubate a bunch of startups and collect them under your own ecosystem. All the other big Chinese tech companies do this too, it's not even original DMS :joy:

 

Also sorry Dee Hsu, but this little girl does it better. She's Sinostage Amy and she is amazing!!!

 

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Sigh... With the current issues China is facing, it would have been a perfect time to redo meteor garden. A fresh beautiful cast, massive budget, experienced producer, what can go wrong?

 

Apparently, lots. With the water crabbing of wealth gap and school violence, much of the primary conflict that defines meteor garden is gone. You have a well off son of an entrepreneur vs a daughter of a fledgling takeout business. While there is a difference in level of wealth, It's unclear from this what dao family drive their insurmountable sense of superiority from.

 

Because of this, so many scenes between the main characters make little to no sense. Many scenes just come to be there just to be there, not driven by the characters.

 

Then there's the directing. So many scenes are rough and uneven, breaking you out of the story. Pauses are too long or too short. Camera pans for dramatic effect end up stilted.

 

Then there's the voices. Dubbing to even out accents ended up causing the scene to be acted out twice. Level of voice acting intensity often don't match the actors. The actors are fresh and inexperienced, so they don't provide the level of consistent acting to balance with experienced voice actors. So, in mg2001, HZL's line mumbling, DMS's awkward delivery are consistent with their screen performance and provide awkward charm missing here.

 

All that aside, it would have been a ok drama if it wasn't supposed to be based on Hana yori dango source material. The Shell is there, the spirit is gone

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4 hours ago, Lunkera said:

@kellentia Yeah the japanese is good. There is 2 seasons. First one is called Hana Yori Dango(2005). Sequel is called Hana Yori Dango Returns or season 2. The series conclude with a movie. First season has 9 episodes and season 2 has 11 episodes. I love the soundtrack, Especially "Planetarium" by Ai Otsuka.

 

Beware of ending spoiler down.

 

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The thing that makes the japanese ending the best is because Makino(female lead) ends up pregnant in the movie at the end.

 

 

For some reason I haven’t had my attention drawn to the Japanese one, but I just had a look and DMS looks how I’d expect him to here (but not as incredible as Dylan Wang, usual worshipful phrases/so hot/face melt/dies).  Also, the spoiler bit sounds amazing! I’m still floating around on a MG high, so I think I’ll give it a try too!

 

This is a random clip of Dylan Wang on a game show that made me laugh. It’s Dylan versus some little kid, and he won’t even let the kid win, haha. I love him.

https://youtu.be/qr_0X6NSbwo

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3 minutes ago, cantbreathe said:

 

 

For some reason I haven’t had my attention drawn to the Japanese one, but I just had a look and DMS looks how I’d expect him to here (but not as incredible as Dylan Wang, usual worshipful phrases/so hot/face melt/dies).  Also, the spoiler bit sounds amazing! I’m still floating around on a MG high, so I think I’ll give it a try too!

 

This is a random clip of Dylan Wang on a game show that made me laugh. It’s Dylan versus some little kid, and he won’t even let the kid win, haha. I love him.

https://youtu.be/qr_0X6NSbwo

I just watched that too and was dying laughing that he didn't let the kid win lol. Just what I would expect from him.

 

@kokodus I was wondering where you were! Glad you're back for discussions now that it's over.

 

I'm still gathering my thoughts about those 2 final episodes, LOL. So so so many thoughts. Some good, but mostly bad. Everything post the amnesia fake out has been a miss for me. While I didn't love HYD manga ending, I would have preferred it to what we ended up getting even if it included the real amnesia. I don't have much negative things to say about Eps 1-45, I can't wait for a rewatch.. yet these last episodes have been sooo disappointing. Why would they stick so true to the manga and then totally curve off path and deliver this mess in the end. I also shudder to think what must have been going on in Yoko Kamio's head while watching this week's eps.

 

I'll get more in depth with my thoughts later when I can process it more.. haha.

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1 hour ago, auroragb said:

Sigh... With the current issues China is facing, it would have been a perfect time to redo meteor garden. A fresh beautiful cast, massive budget, experienced producer, what can go wrong?

 

Apparently, lots. With the water crabbing of wealth gap and school violence, much of the primary conflict that defines meteor garden is gone. You have a well off son of an entrepreneur vs a daughter of a fledgling takeout business. While there is a difference in level of wealth, It's unclear from this what dao family drive their insurmountable sense of superiority from.

 

Because of this, so many scenes between the main characters make little to no sense. Many scenes just come to be there just to be there, not driven by the characters.

 

Then there's the directing. So many scenes are rough and uneven, breaking you out of the story. Pauses are too long or too short. Camera pans for dramatic effect end up stilted.

 

Then there's the voices. Dubbing to even out accents ended up causing the scene to be acted out twice. Level of voice acting intensity often don't match the actors. The actors are fresh and inexperienced, so they don't provide the level of consistent acting to balance with experienced voice actors. So, in mg2001, HZL's line mumbling, DMS's awkward delivery are consistent with their screen performance and provide awkward charm missing here.

 

All that aside, it would have been a ok drama if it wasn't supposed to be based on Hana yori dango source material. The Shell is there, the spirit is gone

 

??? At least they added some depth to the source material. Sure it wasn't perfect, but what do expect from such an outdated ridiculous story?

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I found an interesting article about the original source manga Hana Yori Dango. It gave me a lot to think about in terms of how successful this drama was in staying true to the themes of the source material (as listed in this article), since there was a lot of debate  among viewers and manga fans about the changes made in this drama due to Chinese TV restrictions. Anyway, one thing I learned is the meaning of Tsukushi's name in Japanese. I didn't know it was an actual weed/food source.

 

https://www.npr.org/2011/04/15/134563204/head-over-heels-for-boys-over-flowers

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4 hours ago, auroragb said:

All that aside, it would have been a ok drama if it wasn't supposed to be based on Hana yori dango source material. The Shell is there, the spirit is gone

 

3 hours ago, rocky689 said:

??? At least they added some depth to the source material. Sure it wasn't perfect, but what do expect from such an outdated ridiculous story?

 

@auroragb While I agree with you that this drama version has its flaws, and I will say the toning down of the bullying did make the first few episodes a bit hard going for me personally, I disagree that the drama doesn't carry the spirit of the source manga. I think the spirit of the manga is still there, and it did delve into the themes of the manga.  How well the manga themes were explored is a matter of opinion, and I respect that you felt this drama did not do a good job with that.  But I do believe that the spirit of the manga was kept. 

 

@rocky689 I agree with you that the drama did try to add depth to the source material, along with updating a story that was begun 25 years ago,  and did the best they could dealing with the Chinese TV restrictions. Frankly, this manga storyline has a lot of problems  and there were criticisms of scenes as being too silly or outdated in the drama that were pretty much shot for shot remakes of scenes in the original manga.  I liked some of the changes that they made here in MG2018 as it helped with making the story fresh.

 

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On 8/31/2018 at 1:11 PM, kokodus said:

Ok I can't be the only one who thought the whole wedding ploy was completely ridiculous. I just wanted a simple, straightforward yet beautiful wedding. What is it with Daoming Zhaung's sexy dance and F3 proposing and all that?? I would've preferred a prom dance or the graduation dance with all the F3 members for this. Seriously so awkward and off putting. Honestly they didn't have to trick  SC to marry him, she already agreed to marry him. They could have done a straightforward wedding like in the Japanese version. And where are their parents?? SSighhh. The more I think about it, the more I feel that they messed it up big time. They gave us plenty of post wedding scenes to make up for the disastrous wedding. Even though they were all just PPL scenes that they had to force in the ending. I'm fine with that though. I have to say that the J version had the most beautiful and satisfying ending ever. I had high hopes that this show's ending will be like the J version.

 

Sigh, but it's ok I think MG 2018, for me, surpassed the J version already when they decided to not include the amnesia version. LOL. Not only that, there were plenty of other small and big plot points that made this version far more superior that it's counterparts. If I had to list them all, I'll be here all night. LOL. 

 

@kokodus my thoughts exactly. I actually laughed when DMZ started dancing because it was just so ridiculous. I’m happy we got a wedding scene but I’m disappointed with how it was done. Like you, I just wanted a simple and beautiful wedding. It’s funny you were looking for their parents because I had done the same! SC’s mom made a point of saying how family is important in a marriage and they’re not at the wedding?! I also didn’t think it was necessary for DS to trick SC because like you said, she had already agreed to marrying him. The wedding came off as very gimmicky and immature. I would have preferred a traditional wedding where SC is walked down the aisle by her father and handed off to DS and then being wed in front of their parents and their friends. 

 

I’m glad they showed us a little bit of postwedding life but was kinda disappointed that it’s mostly PPL. The one thing I did like about it was the bit where DMF attempted to cook breakfast for them and where she tells them about her plans of travelling. I kinda liked that we got to know a little bit more about her in the last episode. 

 

I, too, did not care for the hunger strike here. It honestly didn’t move me. I guess the point they were trying to make here is that DS and SC would rather die than be apart. I was also disappointed that F3 couldn’t think of a way to support SC other than attempting to give her food. I mean they could have stood with her or kept her company or maybe gave her some cover for the rain? And why did it take so long for Lei to remember DS’ “secret” plan? Oh and the part where Lei goes “who knows DS email?” How could you NOT know if you guys have always been so close? Just plain weird. 

 

@insertusernamehere I laughed so hard reading your comments because they’re so true!! Hahaha especially the part where you say “didn’t DMS have a contingency plan? Like what if he actually died?” Hahaha! If he already had a plan prepared, then why did he resort to the hunger strike? Couldn’t he have tried to show his mom his plan first? 

 

And guys, just wondering here but did any of you actually understand what the plan was? Honestly it sounded like a bunch of mumbo jumbo to me. To me, it basically said this “the only way to move forward is to let go of the past and to find creative ways to evolve. I did a lot of research and basically we can be anything to anyone and my friends (F3) can achieve anything considering Ximen is tea expert, Lei is genius musician and Meizuo (I don’t even know what he does) can convince anyone to invest.” 

 

I mean honestly couldn’t understand what was so great about it because it didn’t really explain what it was! And somehow it will also make SC’s special squid sauce sell like crazy. Lol

 

 

 

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18 hours ago, cantbreathe said:

 

I noticed that too! I think the shot was sudden and did introduce Lei as a creeper who was just standing hunched waiting for them. Also, this is very ungentlemanly of me (haha), but I think it was also the shock of Lei looking weirdly unattractive in the shot. How? What?? Who are you and what have you done with Guan Hong? 

 

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And @starry58 YEAH!!! I’m gonna fangirl Dylan so hard on every drama he’s on forever and ever now. He was the most charismatic and hot DMS. Although, granted, I haven’t seen the other HYD adaptions. I just... can’t, the 2001 F4 just look so dated to me. Like I just LOL looking at their hair. I think I’d die watching them strut around. 

 

@cantbreathe Hahahaha!! I literally cried laughing at your comment because I was thinking the same! Like the camera couldn’t even focus on his face properly and he did look so unattractive and creepy!! It made him seem like such a stalker too! 

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I also laughed at that lei scene. That scene and their first dance looked like it was shot on a mobile phone. We've gotten some pretty amazing cinematography in other eps.. what happened here? haha.

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12 hours ago, kokodus said:

Since I've been avoiding this thread for the past 1 week in fear of getting myself spoiled, I missed spazzing about some important squeee moments. So i'm going to do it now. Hehe. 

 

The MAJOR squeeworthy moment for me in this finale week is definitely the 520 roses scenes. I was screaming and kicking my pillow so wildly that my mom got worried. hahaha. The best part about the whole scene is when SC calls and complains to him that there are only 519 roses and orders him to give her that missing one rose, no matter what. And the fact that Si knows that SC will count and check whether there are 520 roses and planned to hide one rose so that he can give her that by himself. Hella swoony. 

 

I liked the scene where he wore that green shoe to the uni and SC looked at it with such nostalgia. And his reply when she asked why he wore that was even more amazing. He wore that green shoe so that she can find him easily amongst the crowd. ./SWOOOOOOOOON. LOL. And then Mei zuo and Ximen's usual roleplay had me in stitches, of course. Hahaha. 


When I first watched the door scene I was too mad at SC to appreciate how awesome Si reacted to her. This is the scene where you can really tell how much Si has grown. Some 10 to 15 eps before, when SC said the same thing, he threw a fit and behaved like the whole world has come to an end. But now even without seeing her face to face he could see through her and read her like a book. From pestering her all day to confess her feelings out loud to understanding that SC will never not hate him or fall out of love with him. That right there is not character growth, but relationship growth. The whole scene was beautifully done actually. 

 

@kokodus lol you can tell I’m just catching up here because I’m reading all the posts one by one and trying to respond. Haha!

 

but yes, I thought the roses were such a nice touch because it showed how much DS knew SC. He knew she would count them which is why he saved the last rose. Question is - how long was he standing out there waiting for her to finish? Lol she said she counted it 800 times! 

 

I also liked it when he wore the green shoes so she could find him in the crowd. And I also loved that when SC was being annoying at the door, he saw through her and calmly talked sense into her. 

 

Which is why the whole wedding thing was so upsetting! It made DS seem

immature! And what was up with DMZ kicking him too? 

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Just wanted to share this BTS video because it reminded me of the good points of the show despite the disappointment that was the last few episodes. I really like this scene and the BTS is just as good or even better. They are such cute puppies!

 

 

 

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I don't know if I should feel glad or sad that I've now finished watching MG2018. But one thing is for sure, I want to say that I want to file a complaint against the production for their imprudence resulting in damage to my sanity and in emotional breakdown. #ImOkay #NoNotReally #HowToMoveOn

 

Thoughts about the last two episodes:

 

• Flashbacks took more or less a total of 15-minute screen-time. Yep, I literally counted it because what else am I supposed to do apart from skipping? Lol. Though it's nice to look back, as mentioned before, it would've been better if this was used for new scenes. Example: to properly transition to the wedding part. 


• I'm still confused as to why AhSi is hell bent in marrying Shancai first before saving their company. They could've possibly avoided the hunger-strike if he shared his secret plan first. Anyone who could share their thoughts about this? 


• Speaking of the wedding, I only have one question. WHYYYYYY? When AhSi asked SC's hand from her parents, it was said that they value relationships between families (or something like that) There are people in the wedding who aren't supposed to be there, yet the parents are nowhere to be found. 


• The wedding prank is acceptable to me, if and only if the parents were there. I mean I find it funny when the parents connive with the craziness of their child/children, 'no? 


• I felt so warm and fuzzy during the post-wedding scenes. The life that they deserve. Yes, even with the PPL lol. 

 

Thoughts about the drama as a whole:

 

I'm in love with it. I can't just say I love it. Because they're a whole different thing. When you're in love, you know there are flaws but you still accept them. I can throw rants here and there about scriptwriting, execution and all that, but at the end of the day I know I'd still go back and watch. 

 

I cared less if it was really faithful to the manga or not. I just want to enjoy it. I admit that most of the time I'm getting too technical whenever I watch a film or a drama (I finished a degree in media/communication arts and can't really just avoid it) that I often forget that the reason I'm watching is to enjoy and escape reality for a while. 

 

For me, I'd say that MG2018 is by far the best adaptation of HYD. It made me feel a lot of things, I cried with the characters, I laughed and got frustrated even. Also, the actors/actresses owned their roles. They really got a very good chemistry. The relationship/friendship between F4 was also highlighted, something that wasn't given a focus in other versions. I live for the bromance, aside from SC and DMS love story. 

 

Okay, this is getting too long, I'm so sorry for writing a whole essay lol but really, I think I can write a whole gd of a novel regarding my thoughts about this drama. 

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I just finished it!!! Wow it was a really funny and great drama!! I really like this version. I am so happy they all have a happy ending, especially our OTP :)!!! At the end of ep 49, it is really nice to see 

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F4, Shancai and the guy singer and director to come and sing the song!!!

They wrapped up the drama very nice!!! I'm going to miss F4, especially our puppy, Ah Si!!! 

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OH MAI GAD!!!!!! @7psyche7 That bts is everything!!!!! Why do they have to be such cute puppies???? Now I can't even tell whether they were acting or just been themselves throughout the drama. Seriously having doubts now. I think the director also sensed the natural chemie between them and let them do whatever they wanted. LOL.

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4 hours ago, 7psyche7 said:

Just wanted to share this BTS video because it reminded me of the good points of the show despite the disappointment that was the last few episodes. I really like this scene and the BTS is just as good or even better. They are such cute puppies!

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I really :heart: this BTS. Helped to foster their chemistry and yet you know that they are just friends.  *peace*

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Sorry in advance, I cannot remove the video from the quote

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Am feeling a little bit empty after finishing MG yesterday.  Reading your thoughts here helps alot. Looking forward to the next one maybe another 15-20 yrs from now!! Thanks :D

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I've made peace with that strange ending. I'm just going to pretend that those nonsensical and illogical stuff in the last few eps didn't happen at all. II'll skip those scenes whenever I rewatch this show as well, so after a period of time, I'll forget it ever happened at all. LOL. The wedding for me starts with their wedding kiss and everything after that was really satisfying. There is no PPL in this show, those are the products we use day to day, so you can't accuse them of forcing those onto us. LOLOL. I totally need that soy milk maker!!!! 

 

Ok alright, fine, let me just go and start my rewatch session. I'm very much excited to start from the beginning. EEEEEEEE. 

 

Edited to add: 

https://www.buzzfeed.com/namjhyun/which-f4-member-is-your-perfect-boyfriend-3l8jd?

 

You guys I totally cheated, because I very well know what answers would get me Dao Ming Si. LOL. 

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9 hours ago, mouse007 said:

 

@cantbreathe Hahahaha!! I literally cried laughing at your comment because I was thinking the same! Like the camera couldn’t even focus on his face properly and he did look so unattractive and creepy!! It made him seem like such a stalker too! 

 Guys i really think that london scene where lei looked extra weird meeting the guys is CGI XD

im almost sure its not weird cinematography 

they just couldnt get darren to film that day maybe or couldnt fly him to london 

so they just had the crappy idea to greenscreen him or something and thought we wouldnt notice( GUYS WE NOTICES ...IT WAS BAD XD)

 

also thank you @kokodus for the quizz xD

always fun

and ofc i got daoming si too ... i really tried to not guess the answers related to him and go with whats true ... still managed to get him somehow haha 

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Initially I saw lots of comments saying that Shan Cai has been over reacting, because this version of Si didn't even do anything terrible, like he didn't step on her phone intentionally, also he didn't send men to harrass her either. Well the problem is that if we compare him to the previous 2001 Ah si, or Tsukasa/Gu Jun Pyo he indeed would seem a 100 times more better. But if we compare him to a normal person like you and me, he does seem to have extreme anger management issues. That scene where he slammed the food on her face was very painful to watch. Also the way he pushed Li zhen away violently. Any guy who grew up with a sister wouldn't be soo violent with other girls. That's what I thought when I first watched it, but I think his violent behaviour can very well be attributed to his mom and his sister as well seeing how they both treat him. His sister means well of course, but I guess he never learnt that he shouldnt hit girls. Not a problem, SC was there to teach him how to behave. LOL. He totally deserved that flying kick imo

 

We can clearly see the flash of regret in his face immediately after he slammed the food on her. He knew what he did was wrong but his hardass self can't apologize or make it right, hence why that flying kick was needed. Hahaha. 

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