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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] Meteor Garden 流星花園

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18 minutes ago, kokodus said:

Ohhh @lan_lan You are such a sweet heart. I really didn't want to watch the raws but I'm left with no options now because if Netflix keep this up we will end up being very behind in the coming weeks. Sighhhh. 

 

@Table122000 Thanks for sharing that recap site. 

 

You're welcome @kokodus 

Yeah-  From what @Lan Lan said, it looks like maybe Netflix will be an episode behind the live airing from now on so they don't get into another situation where they are ahead of live schedule. But, at least it's only 1 episode. According to that recap blog:

Live Ep. 31=Netflix Ep. 30, so Live Ep. 32 should equal Netflix Ep. 31. Guess we will have to wait until next week to see if any schedule changes are permanent.

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28 minutes ago, Table122000 said:

 

Also, for the person who asked about the Netflix schedule:

Subbed Episodes are posted Wednesday-Friday at Netflix. It's usually 2 episodes a day to match the 2 episodes a day schedule in China,  for a total of 6 episodes a week, but these past 2 weeks they have only been posting 5 episodes a week because of issues. I'm not sure if this will be a permanent change or not. We'll have to wait and see.

That was me. Thanks! Really hoping we get one more ep today so we can catch up with the raw schedule before they air more episodes next week. Episode 30 left on such a heartbreaking note, will they just let us sit with that until Wednesday? :bawling:

 

Thoughts for Ep 30.

 

The Caina/Meizuo/Terrence actually made me cry. Haha. I don't hate their story, the only thing I hate is that by having them on screen, it means less screen time for DMS/SC progression. Broken hearted Meizuo got me though and I really was happy for Caina for figuring her stuff out. I find her a lot more relatable and less naive/frustrating than SC in the way she navigated her love triangle. But how the hell was Terrence able to build that treehouse without her noticing in what seems like the span of a day. LOL

 

As for Lei/DMS/SC... Based on previews, I thought that the Lei/DMS confrontation scene was going to come after the necklace throwing where he ended up comforting her through her tears. If it had come after, I think I would be more quick to believe that his words to DMS were genuine about wanting to pursue SC because you could really see how upset he was to see SC crying after he found her necklace. But now that I see it came before the necklace throw, his 'I won't let you make her cry anymore' words seem to have less meaning and I'm more inclined to believe that he's just manipulating them to come together. You can see in a few scenes before their confrontation, he was looking at both of them with concern.

 

That said, I agree that it's totally believable that Lei does love SC. I don't think that's coming out of nowhere. This was true in the manga and I do feel it here too in the scenes that another user pointed out above. He's just always been able to put aside those feelings for the sake of the his friends.

 

I mentioned in my previous post that this whole arc seems way more heartbreaking than it was in the manga and I realize why now. Their breakup by the water wasn't preceded by any misunderstandings or fights. DMS knows that she left because she was pushed to by his mom. He questions her ability to be honest and just as she's about to open up to him, he ends it. He knows all this yet he still chooses to break up with her. It makes me so sad.

 

In the manga, this scene was preceded by Makino meeting his fake lookalike cousin on a forced group date. Afterwards she meets with Doumyoji and they fight in their typical way. He thinks shes lying and making up excuses when she brings up his 'cousin'. Yes he chucks the necklace and she goes swimming for it but the next day when he finds out the 'cousin' was not a made up story, he immediately has a 'what have I done' moment and regrets having yelled at her.

 

I don't remember her really ever starting to fall in love with the 'cousin' so the fact that they've swapped him for Lei in MG2018 makes DMS' fear of losing SC much more substantial. His crying scene was just :heartbreak:.  In the manga bus scene when she leaves with Amon, I didn't feel like it was a big deal. The impact seems way bigger now that the person she's leaving with is her first love. I kind of like this change in storyline... it definitely brings on the dramas!

 

 

 

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17 minutes ago, mouse007 said:

 

@enigmatic_zephy I agree, in all the other versions, Lei did have feelings for SC and he makes his feelings known to both SC and Si at some point. I just can't remember if he confesses his feelings before or after the amnesia arc.

Lei never tells his real feelings to SC or DS.. the only one he somewhat confesses to is jiang's character when she comes back to him towards the end.. and that is the only absolute confirmation from Lei to manga readers/ audience about his love ( and kind of reflect back to his past actions)

 

Whenever Lei so called confesses, he is mostly using it as a driver to push DS-SC together.. or the sincerity of the confession is known only to him

 

However, in this drama... i think i see what others are saying, the build up to this moment of Lei's arc is very feeble.. korean version handles it better i think

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23 minutes ago, mouse007 said:

 

@enigmatic_zephy I agree, in all the other versions, Lei did have feelings for SC and he makes his feelings known to both SC and Si at some point. I just can't remember if he confesses his feelings before or after the amnesia arc.

 

I can't remember in detail but I sort of remembering him confessing to her when he follows her to NY after she goes there to chase after Doumyoji. But I can't remember if he openly told her or if it was just a narration in his head. After this is the island arc and then when they come back from that, he gets stabbed and the amnesia arc begins. The whole Amnesia/Umi storyline felt pretty brief and non threatening to me so reading about the mess that is MG2 and DMS/Yesha seems really over the top. If MG2018 keeps staying true to the manga, I don't think we'll have to worry about a repeat of MG2.

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32 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

sorry which elevator scene? the first date?

 

Below is the flow of events that i remember. Feel free to correct me.

 

She falls for Lei, hard. Lei is experiencing confused feelings because on one hand he knows he has always loved Jiang, she is her, he likes her... but on the other hand he is constantly going out of his way for SC , DS likes SC

 

Lei goes to france, SC still really really like Lei, but has decided to give up on him (because of him scolding her and her own sense of inferiority.. and also the face he drew on the wall was SC but she interpreted it as jiang and lei's reply at that moment is cryptic with expressions supporting it. like he knows its not jiang but let's just go with what SC is saying),  because she thinks she anyway doesn't have a chance with lei and more importantly she really wants Lei to be happy. Lei goes to France. DS feelings are growing.. and the boy truly is sincere in his pursuit of SC

 

Him standing in the rain.. moves her.. yes!.. sexual tension

 

However, this in my view was the critical moment, when Lei comes back and takes her on the date.. if he wished to play fair and pursue her, he would have got her ( because at this moment too SC hasn't fallen for DS and still fancies Lei.. i mean come-on she lets a boy kiss her knowing he is not serious about it and basically is playing around with girls to get over Jiang but she doesn't mind it because spending those few moments with him sitting side by side is more important for her ..)

Well I never thought it was SC he doodled in that wall. I need to go and check that scene. It was right after Jing declared that she is going back to France or whatever country and cut her hair, right??? And that's why I thought he drew a girl with short hair. LOL. But yeah one could argue that it's SC....

 

Before Lei comes back from France, Si and SC had another incident where a picture of her leaks in online and everyone accuses her for cheating Si. And she says that she only needs him to trust her and doesn't care about anyone else, and after that chaos got over, he confesses that he likes her and even kisses her, which she doesn't resist....so yeah...Si and SC's relationship started to bloom(lol) before Lei came back and I stick to my previous stand that Lei doesn't have any part in bringing both of them together. Atleast in the initial eps.....he does help them realize their feelings for each other later, which again, would've not been so difficult for them if he hadn't come back and kissed her out of the blue.

 

Don't think I'm hating on Lei, he is indeed a cupcake but I just can't understand why he does certain things. LOL. 

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for the people wondering if RUI/lei actually do confess his feelings directly to makino/sanshai 

here is some scans i posted from the manga few days go while i was curious too

 

 

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also ive been reReading the manga 

and im kinda close to the following 

in the original work rui do actually really fall in love with makino once again 

and even kiss her at some point managing to figure out that his feelings were more than friendship

 

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I kinda wonder how its gonna turnout in this version !?

are they gonna make his feelings legit 

or is he just gonna try to play daredevil by provoking Si jealousy ( we all know its not that hard xD )for him to realise his feelings and motivation back ? 

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, kokodus said:

Well I never thought it was SC he doodled in that wall. I need to go and check that scene. It was right after Jing declared that she is going back to France or whatever country and cut her hair, right??? And that's why I thought he drew a girl with short hair. LOL. But yeah one could argue that it's SC....

oh.. you got me thinking.. will have to check again if its after she cut her hair

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Before Lei comes back from France, Si and SC had another incident where a picture of her leaks in online and everyone accuses her for cheating Si. And she says that she only needs him to trust her and doesn't care about anyone else, and after that chaos got over, he confesses that he likes her and even kisses her, which she doesn't resist....so yeah...Si and SC's relationship started to bloom(lol) before Lei came back and I stick to my previous stand that Lei doesn't have any part in bringing both of them together. Atleast in the initial eps.....he does help them realize their feelings for each other later, which again, would've not been so difficult for them if he hadn't come back and kissed her out of the blue.

lol.. only thing i get from this is.. SC is a PhD in playing hard.. she lets boys kiss her and then claim she has no feelings whatsoever.. and which she probably truly doesn't..

 

people who want to learn how to play hard to get.. lol contact SC

 

 

Serious note, yes you are right about her starting to depend on and DS becoming important ( but i do wonder if it was because Lei had left and she basically had lost her comrade with whom she discussed things and DS was there for her in her embarassing moments.. and that standing in rain did make her realize that DS is a very sincere person)

 

on whether SC could be won by Lei or not.. hmm.. guess we will have to agree to disagree here..  while i do somewhat get how you view things.. to me it will always be the case where she moved on because she realized she couldn't have what she wanted.. and if she lets another man kiss her (knowing how frivolous it is) while letting another man kiss her (that's shows disregard for the man who kissed her first)..

 

BTW, help me here.. when did she allow DS to kiss her before Lei's kiss - in the bedroom is it when they go on that vacation?

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Don't think I'm hating on Lei, he is indeed a cupcake but I just can't understand why he does certain things. LOL. 

Nah!!!.. I love DS too.. and frankly SC would be irritating girlfriend to anyone but to DS (only because he is such a sweetheart and madly in love with her)...

 

and like i said, i just ship lei with lei himself.. like just make him happy

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I found these videos on YT and thought maybe some of you haven't seen them (i haven't seen them until today). I don't believe they are posted in here. If any of them is a repeat, let me know. Some same cuts but each video have cuts of Dylan Wang and Shen Yue other vids don't have (They looked soo cute together :wub: though).

 

 

 

 

 

Credits to the YT uploaders!

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1 hour ago, rimjayc said:

for the people wondering if RUI/lei actually do confess his feelings directly to makino/sanshai 

here is some scans i posted from the manga few days go while i was curious too

 

 

 

 

I also just went back and read through that volume too to refresh my memory and here are some more confirmations and Makino's realizations afterwards for those curious :)


 

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Rui's confession to Doumyoji in front of Makino. It feels genuine to me.

 

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Makino telling Rui she loves Doumyoji.

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and finalllyyy Makino asking herself if his confession had come earlier, would this have stopped her from falling in love with Doumyoji? She says NO :) I don't know if I agree with her because if her and Rui had become a thing before he ever left for France, I don't think Doumyoji would have pursued her in the same way. His persistence is definitely one of the key reasons he could get her to fall for him. BUT I'm here for her realization cause I'm 100% Makino/Doumyoji DMS/SC. I like Rui, but not for her.

 

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Reading all of this again now, I wonder if they'll still make Lei follow her to London? It might seem repetitive now that he's already gone through his confession in the current arc.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

BTW, what is the response to this show?

 

I read online, it has low ratings and being criticized a lot on weibo??

 

i thought this would be a sweep away success.. atleast no less than love so beautiful

I think it was just in the beginning (I had doubts myself in the beginning lol) but it has a lot of views on mango tv (3 mil?) (where it streams online; that's on top of being aired on Hunan TV - and apparently the ratings on TV are decent as well, on par with other popular dramas), and the OST is selling well. It's definitely not a flop though domestically seems to be less of a runaway success? There could be other metrics too, like buzz online, etc. Internationally, I'd definitely say it's a success :D 

 

@feliset I like your point about the change; it does make it that much more dramatic/heart wrenching. Separation due to misunderstanding (external factors) is fine, but separation due to the couple's own decision (internal) is much more realistic and impactful.

 

That said, they could have thought through the Lei character better. To me, his confession to SC in New York (in the manga) was so memorable. This scheming violin playing confession is just so lame -_- 

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Hi, I just wanted to ask does anyone know what the song that Lei played for Shan Cai at F4's graduation is called?

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@feliset totaly agree with you my friend

i actually felt the same thing rereading that chapter 

 

and im sure if rui managed to express his feeling strngly from the start 

domiyoji wouldnt have been that persistant ( as mush as he got after rui left for paris) he loves his bestfriend and f4 was too mush to destroy that friendship and

he showed it way too many times ( like when he talked about how sorry he felt for rui when he destroyes hisfavorite toy .. and never foegave himself) (or when on their hightschool years when he leaded them si proudly)

 

as for this 2018 version im pretty sure we are having something close to that again ( lei going to london to get back sancai) since there is that scene in the ost MVs ect where lei her clearly standing next to the car ready to get in together in london whle SI is standing there too 

Around 1min10 :

 

 

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37 minutes ago, rimjayc said:

@feliset totaly agree with you my friend

i actually felt the same thing rereading that chapter 

 

and im sure if rui managed to express his feeling strngly from the start 

domiyoji wouldnt have been that persistant ( as mush as he got after rui left for paris) he loves his bestfriend and f4 was too mush to destroy that friendship and

he showed it way too many times ( like when he talked about how sorry he felt for rui when he destroyes hisfavorite toy .. and never foegave himself) (or when on their hightschool years when he leaded them si proudly)

 

as for this 2018 version im pretty sure we are having something close to that again ( lei going to london to get back sancai) since there is that scene in the ost MVs ect where lei her clearly standing next to the car ready to get in together in london whle SI is standing there too 

Around 1min10 :

 

I don't think DS can or could function without SC.. she is the only girl he actually ever liked..

 

DS reaction would have been the opposite.. he would have distanced himself from f4 and this life overall.. he would have gone away because it is impossible for him to see SC romantically involved with someone else..

 

don't forget that whole robot thing comes much later.. in all versions, when this fight is going on DS VS SC and Lei..  there is one moment before the showdown when DS asks SC to say she likes him and he will call off the whole competition.. and his torturing of Lei... in this drama, that is replaced with the scene in front of his house, he gets off the car and runs to hug her

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1 hour ago, insertusernamehere said:

@feliset I like your point about the change; it does make it that much more dramatic/heart wrenching. Separation due to misunderstanding (external factors) is fine, but separation due to the couple's own decision (internal) is much more realistic and impactful.

yes exactly! I'm just so devastated that he would do that. It'll definitely make their reunion more meaningful though.

 

@rimjaycoh... well then. Haha. Not sure how I feel about having to witness another lei triangle. I have the feeling that maybe SC and her cluelessness won't really understand the meaning behind his actions in the current arc so that will leave room for him to spell out his confession to her in London.

 

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I'm soo behind on this drama. Been busy these past couple days, will have to catch up on the weekend.

 

But man they portray Lei's character really good in this one. He loves them both and even though he's gonna be the one who hurts the most, as along as the two people he loves are happy. Lei, you are too nice. I've always liked this character in this whole meteor garden series. :)

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15 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

I don't think DS can or could function without SC.. she is the only girl he actually ever liked..

 

DS reaction would have been the opposite.. he would have distanced himself from f4 and this life overall.. he would have gone away because it is impossible for him to see SC romantically involved with someone else..

 

don't forget that whole robot thing comes much later.. in all versions, when this fight is going on DS VS SC and Lei..  there is one moment before the showdown when DS asks SC to say she likes him and he will call off the whole competition.. and his torturing of Lei... in this drama, that is replaced with the scene in front of his house, he gets off the car and runs to hug her

There's a "robot thing"? That sounds quite interesting lol. I did read the above persons scans of the scenes where SC is asked about Lei and if she likes him etc, I hope that's how it plays out in the show too. I feel SC and DS have such a turbulent confusing but amazing relationship. I ship them more than any TV couple. Idk how I'm going to feel when this is all done and over with. Re-runs for months lol.

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39 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

I don't think DS can or could function without SC.. she is the only girl he actually ever liked..

 

DS reaction would have been the opposite.. he would have distanced himself from f4 and this life overall.. he would have gone away because it is impossible for him to see SC romantically involved with someone else..

 

don't forget that whole robot thing comes much later.. in all versions, when this fight is going on DS VS SC and Lei..  there is one moment before the showdown when DS asks SC to say she likes him and he will call off the whole competition.. and his torturing of Lei... in this drama, that is replaced with the scene in front of his house, he gets off the car and runs to hug her

 

I feel maybe DS could have learned to let it go if SC and Lei got together somewhere between the first time Lei saves her from DS' bullying but before the accidental kiss that led to those misunderstandings and forced rooftop kiss. Who knows though, our boy DS is pretty crazy lol.

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