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@themarchioness :wub: ahhh thankyouuu....

Your description does sounds like a perfect ending for SYJ- CZ , YH-ZZY....... and JZ...

One last question.. If I'm reading this correctly, CZ didn't have a new GF while separated with SYJ right?

The scene where she cried while holding the plant is sad :tears:  

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11 hours ago, lynne22 said:

One last question.. If I'm reading this correctly, CZ didn't have a new GF while separated with SYJ right?

The scene where she cried while holding the plant is sad :tears:  

 

Nope.  (Specific details under the cut.)

 

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When the drama returns to the present in the last two episodes, the first scene we see is CZ helping a pregnant chick walk.  They spy a bar/cafe nearby and he suggests they take a break there.  After he helps her sit down, he goes to the bar/counter to order two juices for themselves.  The person behind the bar/counter turns around and CZ is surprised to find it's SJA, just as SJA is surprised to find CZ in his place.  We learn through their conversations (both then and later) that after his divorce from the cousin, he took some time and then eventually opened this place with investment help from his former father-in-law.  That this is exactly the type of place his cousin always wanted to open, and that it is clearly named with his cousin in mind, does not escape CZ's notice.  SJA shares that by day the business is not bad (it's like a coffee shop vibe during the day), but at night business is really hopping (because it's a bar -- this is why I struggle to know whether I should call it a bar, coffee shop, or what!  :lol:).  He's also developed an app on the side and he tells CZ that SYJ is a regular follower of it.  When CZ asks if they've been in touch this entire time, he says no, but he knows she logs in daily because recognizes her log in information.  SJA also asks CZ about the young woman who's with him, and he explains she's in Shanghai by herself so he's just helping her out as they were friends in uni.

 

After that initial run in between CZ and SJA, we see SYJ having lunch with MYH at the hospital.  They talk about how they're both single and MYH comments that SYJ's mother called her recently to enlist her help in finding a partner for SYJ.  It's clear the reason why SYJ hasn't been able to move on and find someone else, but there's an acknowledgment that time has passed and they're not getting any younger.  At the same time this is going on, we see CZ at the hospital with his pregnant uni friend.  They're trying to find the department they need to go to and CZ suggests they take the elevator to go to some other floor.  Meanwhile, SYJ and MYH finish their lunch and the latter offers to escort SYJ to the lobby.  They exit her office and are standing at the elevator when the doors open and inside are CZ and the pregnant uni friend discussing how his suggestion had been wrong and so they were right back to where they started.  

 

SYJ and CZ's eyes meet.  She takes in the pregnant woman next to him.  He offers no suggestion/explanation.  After exchanging greetings he asks MYH where the department they're looking for is located, and MYH redirects him.  After they leave, SYJ and MYH exchange looks and a few words.  MYH reminds her that a lot of time has passed, and SYJ just says it's fine.  She pretends to be okay, brushes off MYH's suggestion that they take the rest of the day off to be together, and leaves.  But in the parking garage, her rattled state is evident when we watch her drive in the wrong direction of a one-way ramp.

 

After that, she goes home to her mother to seek comfort.  At first she doesn't want to admit to her mother why she's there but later admits she saw CZ with a pregnant woman.  Her mother reminds her that a lot of time has passed and maybe it's time to move on.  

 

While that's going on CZ returns to SJA's place and says he wants his help in putting up a story on his app.  He explains how he ran into SYJ at the hospital and admits to purposefully not doing anything to clear up what he knew would be a misunderstanding.  Part of it was the shock of running into her there, but he also admits that he was curious as to what her reaction would be.  But now CZ wants to make things clear (and has his pregnant friend's permission to share her story in order to do so) and comments that he never imagined there would be a day when he would seek SJA's assistance.

 

So, that night, when SYJ's at her mother's house and after she finds the architectural drawing that CZ had given her years ago and cleaned it from its layers of thick dust, she climbs into bed and pulls up SJA's app.  She sees a picture of the pregnant woman and a bunch of narrative under it.  She calls MYH who's at the hospital (of course).  When MYH answers the phone SYJ asks her if the picture she sent doesn't look like the woman that was with CZ that day.  MYH comments that SYJ must be feeling relieved now.

 

And that is pretty much the purpose of having that pregnant uni friend in CZ's life.  :P 

 

As for the plant scene, it really was sad.  When they show SYJ in the present, in her office, she has lots of potted plants around her and I always wondered if any of those were from that initial plant.  Because even though the pot broke, she could re-pot it!  (If the roots weren't damaged, at least.)  

 

That reminds me though that when CZ did his little event for her at the end.  He apologized for his immaturity and wrong doings in the past, but he also said she wasn't without fault and described her as stubborn and being unable to act all cutesy.  Which is true, but nonetheless made me laugh.  But because it's true, it helped me to see why it was so hard for CZ to understand/know back then just how deeply she did feel about him as well.  Imagine the difference it would've made had he known about her reaction to the plant... 

 

I'm going to have to write another post about their ultimate conflict that led to the break-up.  But now while I'm at work... I should go back to working.  ;))

 

 

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hehehe which episode is all this gif in i dunno but i just thought u guys might like some of the cheesy scenes im seeing from the gif :D i put it spoiler for now :D 

 

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On 12/13/2018 at 8:19 PM, angelangie said:

hehehe which episode is all this gif in i dunno but i just thought u guys might like some of the cheesy scenes im seeing from the gif :D i put it spoiler for now :D 

 

 

Haha, aww... @angelangie those are cute gifs!  Answer:

 

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I'm not sure about the one with them both holding plants.  But the top one is from a scene where they're walking on the campus of JZ and ZZY's school. JZ runs over thinking it's two students making out and then everyone has an awkward moment.  LOL.  I think after that is when the threesome go out for coffee and CZ encourages JZ to go after MYH. 

 

The next three are from soon after CZ and SYJ agree to date.  He walks her back to her dorm one night and he's trying to get his first kiss.  He almost succeeds until others walk past.  SYJ scurries away in embarrassment and CZ is left with a bag of frustration; haha.

 

If memory serves me correctly, the one where he's in bed and kisses her hand is from the morning after they both went to bed feeling hurt by each other.  SYJ helped her ex with a project (because he told her it was for his current company, a.k.a. CZ's family company ) but it turned out to be for his own endeavors.  He found out after his cousin called him out in the middle of the night.  Both of them wonder if SYJ knew the truth, and CZ goes home to find out.  But he doesn't really know what to believe and SYJ is hurt that he would think her capable of betraying him like that.  They go to bed unhappy with each other.  The next morning, she goes to call him out for breakfast, and he tells her that he's thought things through and realizes she had to have been innocent. 

 

As for the one where they're making kissy faces each other, I remember the scene but not the moment.  They didn't have a lot of cute moments together like that (SYJ really wasn't the cutesy type) but when they did, they were suuuuper cute.  :D 

 

 

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I've been wanting to write about the reason for CZ and SYJ's break-up in the drama ever since I finished watching it, but hadn't found the time to do so until now.  As I've mentioned in some of my prior posts, I really liked the conflict in this drama.  (Probably more so than the reason for their break-up in the book.)  But before I get into the specifics, let me back up first and say this.  All the while watching, I was very curious as to what would break them up, because the reason for their break-up in the book was already incorporated into their uni years in the drama, and was never an issue for the OTP.

 

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Basically, when SYJ's mom got sick in the drama, she was still technically* with SJA and CZ was in a continual pursuit.  It made sense then that she would look to SJA and not CZ for the money, as they weren't together, and CZ had no reason to be offended (like he was in the book) that she didn't seek him out when they didn't have that kind of a relationship.  For those reasons, even though SYJ also learned then that her stepfather was working for CZ's family's company, she didn't have to deal with the same type of pride and embarrassment issues in the drama that she did in the book. 

 

     * I say "technically" because during this time, SJA had gone to work for CZ's cousin as part of his senior year internship program and was starting to pull away from SYJ.  In fact, it was because of his strong sense of guilt (knowing that he was going to be breaking things off with her at some point) that he ended up going to the cousin and asking for a loan to give to SYJ.  Of course, since the cousin was interested in SJA, she agreed.

 

When the OTP finally crossed horns a second time, I wondered if that was going to be the reason for their break up, and I was going to be disappointed if it was.  I mentioned this moment already in the post directly above.  Once SYJ is in her senior year internship program, she works for another company that does similar work to SJA's company.  In fact, they cross paths for the first time in a long while when the two companies bid against each other for a project.  After their lives are once again intersected in this way, SJA reaches out to her randomly one day and asks for her help on a time sensitive project.  He promises her that even though it's for his company, it will not conflict with hers and explains the only reason he's reaching out is because he needs people he can trust to get the job done since it needs to be completed quickly.  SYJ agrees to help because she only recently discovered that he helped pay for her mother's surgical fees (and even though he was totally being sketchy with how he used that information, SYJ feels indebted to him). 

 

To SYJ's credit she is incredibly above board when she goes home that night and tells CZ that she's helping SJA with a project.  CZ isn't happy to hear it and wonders if SYJ has been in contact with her ex all this time, but she promises this was a random phone call.  He ends up relenting when SYJ explains that she wants to return this favor and then have nothing to do with him anymore.  Plus, he figures it is a project for his family's company, so even though her working on this project means that she has no time for him for that entire weekend, he deals.  But he still goes to his cousin's house that night and reams out SJA for burdening SYJ like that. 

 

Finally, SYJ finishes the project.  She and CZ go out on a cute date.  Several days later, they have their friends over for a party, and MYH and ZZY spend the night.  That same night the cousin learns from her father that SJA, who's now her husband, has been working on his own project behind their backs.  The father comments that SYJ who was his ex, and is now CZ's girlfriend, also worked on the project and finds it "interesting."  He then leaves the matter to his daughter to figure out, including how she wants to handle it.  She calls CZ and shares the information with him.  Of course he's pissed at SJA; he's never liked or trusted the guy, but he's also upset to think that SYJ helped in this matter.  His cousin asks him to calm down and not act rashly, but he runs home and calls SYJ out.  He confronts her with the information and, of course, she denies any knowledge -- because she didn't know.  He doesn't know what to think and SYJ is in disbelief that he could think of her this way.  They both go to bed unhappy with the other.

 

Meanwhile, the cousin returns to her own home and confronts SJA with the evidence which he cannot and does not try to deny.  When asked about SYJ, he tells his wife that she was never part of the deception.  He explained that "given her personality" there was no way she would've helped him if she'd known the truth, so he lied to her.  That right there is the reason why I was going to be super upset if CZ and SYJ broke up over this matter.  As someone who'd known SYJ since high school and proclaimed to have been in love with her all this time, if he couldn't figure that out about her (and SJA could), I was going to be reaaaaaaally disappointed in him.  Fortunately, after CZ had the night to calm down and think rationally, he came to the same conclusion and apologized the next morning.

 

So, what then, was the reason for their break-up? 

 

Well, it's interesting.  I can pinpoint the moment when it happened, but I don't think that moment was necessarily the reason for their break-up.  Rather, I think it was something that was brewing for a long time that then finally bubbled over when things collided in a perfect storm.  And that's kind of why I loved this conflict so much -- because it was very organic (versus dramatic for the sake of creating drama) and realistic.

 

As I intimated in some of my earlier posts, while CZ and SYJ worked as a couple, they were also very different people.  To put it plainly, they had different "love languages."  CZ was very expressive with his love.  He liked telling her how he felt and doing things for her (such as going out of his way to give her ride to/from work).  There's also no question that he prioritized her over everything else in his life.  I don't want to say that SYJ didn't prioritize CZ; rather, she was just more realistic in her approach.  Sometimes even though you love someone, you have to put other things first, and when you do, that doesn't mean you love the person any less.  It's just all very situational.  SYJ understood that, but CZ didn't quite have the maturity to get that. 

 

Their conflict basically started when SYJ was tasked to head a project.  (This was, for frame of reference, shortly after the SJA Incident mentioned above.)  As head, you can imagine how immersed she was in her work.  She especially wanted to do a good job because of the SJA incident and, in fact, was at the time thinking about leaving the company so she saw this as her way of repaying the company before departing.  If it was up to CZ she'd have just quit right then and there.  He never did like how hard she worked (and we won't even talk about how in one conversation he suggested that she just become a housewife after they married, because if we do, then this post really will never end).  But he dealt with it and SYJ still tried to make time for him as well.  On one particular day, she agreed to go out on a date with him after work, but when the appointed hour came, her boss told her that the external person they were working with on this project wanted to have a meeting.  Left with no choice, she called CZ to delay their date.  He adjusted and said he'd pick her up at the coffee shop after, and SYJ said okay.  On the way to the coffee shop, he started experiencing severe abdominal pain and had to go to the hospital where an acute hernia was diagnosed and he was ushered into surgery.  CZ being the lovesick fool that he was wanted to delay the operation so he could pick up SYJ, but the doctor told him to stop being an idiot -- the longer they waited, the more complicated the surgery would become.  Unfortunately, SYJ had her phone on silent during the meeting so even though MYH kept calling her, she didn't find out about it until CZ was out of the surgery.  To say that he was disappointed to wake up and find her not there would be an understatement.  It didn't help either that when SYJ finally arrived, she brought her boss with her.  (He gave her a ride after they exited the coffee shop and SYJ saw that she had about a million missed messages on her phone.)  The boss was just so condescending; he irritated even me.  He described CZ's surgery as a minor matter and told him that he was lucky to have so many friends around him because when he went through the same thing before, he was on a business trip and so had no one around him.  Anyway, those two things had CZ not happy.  And then, even though SYJ stayed behind to keep him company throughout his recuperation, it was clear that she was also half-distracted with her work.  Because of the project, the company would send people over from time to time as well, and that further irritated CZ.  I felt bad for SYJ.  I know how difficult achieving work-life balance is, and CZ was not helping.  I know he had his needs, but I also thought he could have been a little bit more understanding.

 

Anyway, by the time CZ was discharged from the hospital, they were already on shaky grounds.  On the day of his follow-up appointment, SYJ had an important meeting she could not miss so she arranged for his cousin to take him.  When she told CZ that morning that she'd have dinner waiting for him when he got home, he told her not to worry about him as he'd have dinner with his cousin.  That's why later that evening, when SYJ was about to get off work and was told the external person they'd been working with wanted to take the entire time out to dinner to celebrate the completion of their project, she agreed.  Meanwhile, CZ picked SYJ's favorite restaurant for dinner and then rushed his cousin through the meal because he'd also ordered SYJ's favorite dish as a carry out and wanted to take it home to her.  But when he arrived home, he found the apartment dark.  Worse, when he got to the door, he realized his keys were inside.  He called SYJ's cell phone and her boss answered.  The boss told CZ that SYJ was in the bathroom because she'd had to much to drink.  He reassured CZ though that another female colleague was taking care of her.  CZ was, as you can imagine, pissed.  The boss just brushed CZ aside though and promised he'd send SYJ home soon, but when she returned from the bathroom, he set her on the couch and let her sleep while tucking her phone into her bag.  CZ continued to wait outside his apartment.  By the time SYJ finally arrived home, still tipsy, he was in full rage mode.

 

This is, ultimately, what they fought about. 

 

We could say that the boss was at fault.  Certainly, he was an agent, and his actions did not help the OTP.  But I think even without the boss, they still would have eventually reached this point of conflict.  Maybe it would've been someone else or something else that got them there, or maybe they would've gotten there without any outside help.  But definitely, they would've gotten there one way or another.  Because as I said at the outset, they have two very different styles of "love language." 

 

As SYJ observed to her best friend after the break-up, sometimes CZ's love for her was too all-consuming.  CZ, for his own part, complained to ZZY that he didn't want someone who'd just cook his meals and do his laundry.  He wanted someone who loved him, and would say so. 

 

In their fight with each other, CZ had actually asked SYJ if she loved him, and SJY was shocked that he could even ask such a question.  That's why she answered instead that she was leaving the next steps up to him, and CZ then responded that they should break up.

 

Of course SYJ loved CZ.  It just wasn't in her nature to be overt in her display about it.  CZ, for his own part, needed the reassurance of actually hearing/seeing it (versus just knowing it).  As much as I sided with SYJ in this argument (mostly because I'm more similar to her so I understand her better), I did feel for CZ as I understood where he was coming from.  This is why, for the longest time, I would think to myself that they just needed to sit down and have a proper conversation about their relationship.  But then, all this happened instead.

 

I'd like to think that in the years they were apart, they learned from their past mistakes.  Certainly, they would've learned to cherish each other.  The fact that neither of them were able to move on is a testament to their love for the other and hopefully that means that on this second go around of theirs, SYJ will be more aware of and responsive to CZ's needs.  As for CZ, during his proposal event, he apologized for his past mistakes but also observed that SYJ wasn't without her faults either -- she was stubborn, headstrong, and didn't know how to be cutesy.  His acknowledgment of those facts gives me hope that he has finally matured and grown enough to know and understand that just because SYJ doesn't express her love in the same way as him, it does not mean she loves him less.

 

 

Honestly, I think a lot of what the OTP went through is what a lot of real-life couples have to go through to build a lasting relationship.  It's about learning who the other person; adjusting habits, styles, and expectations;  having understanding for one another; and working with each other.  This is why I really respect the conflict in this drama, and found it so entertaining to watch. 

 

Overall, between the book and the drama, I'd have to say I preferred the drama.  There were a few things I liked better in the book, but in general, I found the drama more realistic.   It gets a thumbs up recommendation from me.  :) 

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The book's core conflict was similar to the drama. The drama also reduced the number of triggers, minimising their effect, but they still had effects, nonetheless.

 

I think it's a decent drama, though I really could use less office scenes. I liked that it focused on SYJ's professional development, however, I think it could have been spread over 5 years instead of a year? half a year? that it took in the drama? It makes it more unbelievable than it is. I'm actually kind of annoyed the focus is on them getting together, rather than get together -> break up -> grow -> get back together. We are barely shown how much they grew outside of the relationship, which is a shame, because that's what I liked about this story?

 

I did like the supporting couples and their conflict but I could do without all the pairing up. It's not that they don't have build up, I just think it'd work more if these characters found their happiness elsewhere. 

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On 11/26/2018 at 4:14 AM, UnniSarah said:

Hello everyone, I havne't been able to find a place tp watch this drama at all. Can someone Help me DM me if you can . 

 

There is now good news as "Never Gone" the drama will be coming to Viki! Yay! There will be subs! Unfortunately, no date given on when the drama will start on Viki so you will need to just keep checking. Here's the Viki link:

https://www.viki.com/tv/36376c-never-gone

 

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On 1/6/2019 at 8:05 PM, Table122000 said:

 

There is now good news as "Never Gone" the drama will be coming to Viki! Yay! There will be subs! Unfortunately, no date given on when the drama will start on Viki so you will need to just keep checking. Here's the Viki link:

https://www.viki.com/tv/36376c-never-gone

 

 

It's up on Viki as of this week, in case anyone's still interested in watching but needed subs!

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On 1/7/2019 at 1:05 AM, Table122000 said:

 

There is now good news as "Never Gone" the drama will be coming to Viki! Yay! There will be subs! Unfortunately, no date given on when the drama will start on Viki so you will need to just keep checking. Here's the Viki link:

https://www.viki.com/tv/36376c-never-gone

 

 

On 1/23/2019 at 1:49 PM, themarchioness said:

 

It's up on Viki as of this week, in case anyone's still interested in watching but needed subs!

Thank you so much!  I had given up on this getting subtitles so this is great news!

 

Quite a few unexpected C-dramas are being subbed lately!  I hope this trend continues :D

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 Hahahaa that coke bottle everytime! Wonder how much they paid.  If I see that again I'll....:lol:

 

I can actually watch a whole drama with just the young Chen Zheng and u YuJin though. I like them teens.

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This drama has a pretty common plot, sort of like Playful Kiss in reverse. My only gripe is the female lead, she has this sour expression throughout & well..it's putting me off from her scenes a bit. Which is unfortunate 'cause there's many scenes of her with Elvis - who thankfully is more expressive & better looking. 

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7 hours ago, Latte_Anyday said:

This drama has a pretty common plot, sort of like Playful Kiss in reverse. My only gripe is the female lead, she has this sour expression throughout & well..it's putting me off from her scenes a bit. Which is unfortunate 'cause there's many scenes of her with Elvis - who thankfully is more expressive & better looking. 

Elvis got same sour faced blank uninterested look treatment fm his wife in "Siege in fog" almost right to the end of the drama.

 

Prolly he is good with these types of roles, always frustratingly having to go all out to pursue his woman? LOL

 

I love his acting.. 

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10 hours ago, jongski said:

I can actually watch a whole drama with just the young Chen Zheng and u YuJin though. I like them teens.

 

Same.  They were my favorite parts of that drama and they were only present in the beginning, LOL.  But I just thought they did a really great job with their parts.

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@Katrina Abdul Talib said:-

 

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Elvis got same sour faced blank uninterested look treatment fm his wife in "Siege in fog" almost right to the end of the drama.

 

Prolly he is good with these types of roles, always frustratingly having to go all out to pursue his woman? LOL

 

 

I didn't finish Siege in Fog & I have a feeling I won't be able to get through this either. While Sun Yi was a slightly better actress, Elvis' female co-star in this seem too stiff(?) She's really bad ok LoL? Plus she looks way mature than Elvis. I kind of like the movie version a bit.

 

As for whether Elvis is good in these kinds of characters, I can't say. Maybe it's his preference. But again there's like dozens of similar like roles as his in many other C-Dramas as well.  

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9 hours ago, Latte_Anyday said:

@Katrina Abdul Talib said:-

 

 

I didn't finish Siege in Fog & I have a feeling I won't be able to get through this either. While Sun Yi was a slightly better actress, Elvis' female co-star in this seem too stiff(?) She's really bad ok LoL? Plus she looks way mature than Elvis. I kind of like the movie version a bit.

 

As for whether Elvis is good in these kinds of characters, I can't say. Maybe it's his preference. But again there's like dozens of similar like roles as his in many other C-Dramas as well.  

Lucky u did not watch SIF ending.. really disappointing. But

 

Elvis performance is superb, very engaging the reason I am following this drama. 

 

Both the young main actor/actress (in school) are adorable and fantastic.. hope to see them in future dramas.

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On 2/12/2019 at 8:40 PM, nanstarrr said:

anyone have the singer name for the ending theme song?

 

nvm, found it:D

Can you link to me? 

@angelangie, I am half way done with this drama.. it's a bit dull for me and the female lead is too stiff.

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