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@littlemissmiss , thank you for sharing your thoughts....

I agree there things about SS that could have been handled better. While this SS is lovable, they do weakens her ability, and her maturity level in the drama goes up and down.. 
I still love her portrayal of SS, but just like you, I wish her smartness were showcased more. 

On this, I blamed the script writer and the director.. Mo Shan shan had an out of the book feel to her, why can't Sang Sang be like that too? They clearly have the ability to do so, they just won't do it for some reason.

 

@UnniSarah has spoken.. Their bond is pure and strong......... 

I won't say much about Ning Que and Sang Sang's relationship... Yes, things could have been handled better..

Now, I just want to remember what I value the most from them is their bonds. 

For me, the young master-handmaiden thing.... its just words..... outside people in the drama may define it as master-servant, but I think for NQ-SS,,,, its not like that at all... its just words. They're family first and foremost.

Sang sang's care and trust for Ning Que is unquestionably a big part how NQ can go to his height today... its more subtly underplayed because its not flash and bangs.. but its there nonetheless. 

How for Ning Que, he does need Sang Sang's assurance a lot, even on the days before the last battle, he always quietly look at Sang Sang.. and sang sang always gave her assurance, whether its a word of "I believe you" of even a hug. 

What I want to remember about them is this kind of quiet and subtle bond they had. 

 

I like Long Qing haha... I think the actor played him well enough... eventho his hair can be laughable sometimes. LOL.

About Ye Hong Yu.. Sigh.. I like her in the wasteland arc. What the scriptwriter did with adding the romantic undertones is not really necessary... She's an amazing character in the book regardless. 
But, it got me thinking...

You know.. hehe.. for a second there in the drama,, I felt a little guilty because I like Ye Hong yu, and you can see her heartbreak in her eyes, when NQ says SS is the lady of the house... 
And then, she sort of caring to NQ too... which make me feel pity for her... if this is another drama, I would have liked them to be together LOL...
Ning Que of course is cautios of her.. and in fact, he treated her like one of the bros....... 
We know and everyone know this is not going anywhere anyway... the script writer is too creative you guys... on this I can only roll my eyes LOL
And here comes the point of my narration... IMO this is what we should have felt during MSS arc... not that overdone thing that happens in the drama....  Again, they clearly have the ability to do so, they just won't do it for some reason.

I like Mo shan shan but I can't say that I enjoy her arc very much because of this... Sigh.

 

The finale, is a bit dramatic IMO... like what I said to my friends the other day... it made me feel funny and maybe a little sad... but it is so dramatic... haha... if I didn't read the book, I would have been so devastated. Nope nope nope... Sang Sang is just tired, and her sickness resurfaced.:D 

Its still a good ending considering we'll get a second season, eventho I rather wish we have a peaceful ending for this season considering how hard and sad NQ and SS life is going to be later on. 

 

For me EN, is still good drama overall, this is still a good adaptation, with and amazing shots of beautiful scenery and great OST.
Ep 1-12 is the best episode for me, while the quality of the there rest of the episodes can go up and down depending on the story line. Yes, some thing could have been handled better... but I think its not the actors problem rather its in the direction and writing. 

Alas, it is done.. so I can only accept it and move on. 

 

I will miss Chen Fei Yu's NQ, Song Yi Ren's SS, Chen Pipi, and all the brother and sister in the academy.... 

 

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24 minutes ago, n3bula said:

I hope it's mutual otherwise it is not fair for Arthur nor the new cast. 

I hope so too. 

 

51 minutes ago, greenwatch08 said:

Even though I enjoy EN, the writing has been insufferable. SS really got the end of the stick & scrapped to the sideline as second fiddle as a character/romantic interest for NQ. I wanted her to have more agency in her own story arc & the drama hasnt deliver so far. Judging from preview clips, I dont think it will. She gets killed/dies for shock value at the last episode, when this season's conflict couldve been resolved easily earlier on if given the time/episodes to develop & give NQ/SS a more fullfilling ending together.

 

NQ as a character is mostly interesting when he's w/SS or interacting w/others. His character development is bare minimum & stagnant. NQ at ep. 40 is pretty much the same NQ from ep.1. The only difference is he gains new abilites but even w/his newfound powers, his growth is almost nonexistent. The drama doesnt showcase NQ studying/learning enough. At times, NQ comes off as rather dull. He's an alright character but has potential to grow, but its executed poorly in a way thats inorganic. 

 

MSS/NQ relationship definitely cheapened NQ/SS would be 'perfect' transition from childhood friends to lovers. The drama needed to give NQ/SS more in-depth interaction to develop their relationship that goes beyond master/handmaiden & domestic activities/running errands for the first half of the show as individuals/pair. I also dislike SS addressing NQ as master the entire show, even after NQ claims/announce her as his wife, she still calls him master? Its ridiculous. Theres no equalness between them & this makes NQ comes off as overbearing. 

 

The romance couldve been handled alot better but this issue has been mentioned on several occassions throughout the thread, so at this point, it is what it is.

 

Some of the characters needed more

development & better writing/

characterization & screentime.

(Ex: Fuzi literally does nothing for 40 episodes besides eating/relaxing on the side of the river & shows up briefly in dream sequences.)

 

Stuff happens too late & too abruptly. Pretty much my criticism of EN is the writing.

Excellent post!  The fact that the same screenwriter is working on the second season fills me with dread.

 

14 minutes ago, greenwatch08 said:

Yo, I love SS w/all my bleedin' heart and to see a female character, who has HUGE potential for character

growth/development as an individual, gets shafted this way mind boggles me in a displeasing way. 

THIS!  The saddest part for me is that it was at the hands of a female director and female screenwriter that her character was treated this way :( 

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5 minutes ago, raziela said:

I hope so too. 

 

Excellent post!  The fact that the same screenwriter is working on the second season fills me with dread.

 

THIS!  The saddest part for me is that it was at the hands of a female director and female screenwriter that her character was treated this way :( 

I havent been this bummed out over a female/favorite character since Ni Ni's character in Rise of the Phoenix. The writing did a huge disservice to her character in favor of the male lead. It was awful.

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2 hours ago, littlemissmiss said:
Alright. I’ve finished the series and I have thoughts.
 
On Sangsang 
  1. C’mon….Less than 4 episodes left of the series and we literally don’t see her for an entire episode? Um, why? And in one of the episodes, she has less screen time and talking time than YHY? 
  2. Since MSS got out of the picture, the production team has rarely given moments between NQ&SS a backing soundtrack. Every sweet scene with NQ&MSS and NY&YHY gets a “oh-my-flutter-in-my-stomach” song and lovey dovey looks. But scenes with NQ&SS are way too brief. 
  3. I just adore SYR as SS. She’s amazing and so adorable. I’m so happy she’s not the typical looking female lead.
 
On this season
  1. Song Yi Ren is amazing as Sangsang. And Chen Fei Yu did an incredible job as Ning Que. I will really miss this duo. I wish they had more screen time in the last few episodes. Looking back, those first few episodes with them feel so nostalgic, pure, and magical.
  2. The actor for Long Qing was amazing! And he is very well built lol! I hope he comes back for season 2 because it helps with the cohesion even if the male lead changes. 
  3. I agree that the production team kind of butchered their romance a bit because of the emphasis on the other characters. I wished CFY had also made googly eyes at SS as he did with the others. Or a look of relief/gratitude during some of their later scenes because it like he was really her master.
  4. For the last battle, I was really hoping to see 
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    all the Fire Fus when XH entered their lake mansion. That would have looked really epic. 

  5. Why did they make YHY into a love sap? One of the good things about here in the first part of this novel is that she thinks NQ is a pile of crap. 
  6. Obviously, we needed more NQ&SS scenes in the later episodes. You could even just show them slurping their noodles for 5 minutes straight and no one would complain.
 
On SangSang in Season 2:
  1. Our girl SS is a genius and you need to keep all those novel bits in. Yes, she is “lazy,” but when she thinks, she outshines everyone. Here are some of the many gems you forgot in Season 1:
    1. That time when Master Yan Se and Wei Guang Ming were going to fight after the chessboard game gets knocked over and they need to get to business. But she remembers exactly where each piece is and gives them more time to not kill each other.
    2. When she beats Tang Xiao Tang like 129 times in chess and that is why TXT has to jump down the waterfall 129 times. 
    3. She is a freaking living version of Google Maps and is the key reason why NQ is able to shoot XH and win during his battle. 
  2. She needs more screen time. She could be washing vegetables for all I care. It’s just not cool how the female lead has less speaking time and I feel like screen time than the other female leads. Like MSS had like 10 episodes with 10+ minutes in each. I think SS is usually in just 1 or 2 scenes and they are too brief.
 
On Season 2: 
  1. I will watch Season 2. I, for the most part, really like the plot. If they keep the same: Director, SYR, Second Brother, CPP—I’m in. I’m kind of upset at the changes they’ve made, but it sort of balances out with the sweet additions they added with SS&NQ. They followed the story better than most adaptations. The cinematography was great, casting & acting caliber was amazing, and the soundtrack is magical. While I am a proud member of TEAM PETTY AF and want to boycott this on the fact that we get a new NQ, I need to give this outstanding production team a chance. Dylan Wang, in my book, was terrible in Meteor Garden while also having some redeeming scenes, but I am hoping he really improves. And with that...
  2. I want more sweet scenes between SS&NQ. I hope DW makes NQ to be more endearing to SS like how he is in the novel. I thought DW in Meteor Garden was great when it came to caring and thoughtful scenes with the female lead. I hope he doesn’t that exude that high and mighty exterior that I found CFY to have in the later episodes with SS. I’m pretty optimistic about this people lol. 
  3. NQ is definitely not my favorite character in the book. Hell, of any book of that matter. His ONLY redeeming quality is his love for SS. I can take him being shameless, but he is way too flirtatious and is tempted (you can argue even does tempt) with the other ladies. Please change this in the drama lol. You gave us unnecessary and nonexistent NQ&MSS/NQ&YHY arcs. Please give us a more loyal Ning Que! LOL  
 
I have more thoughts. Will come back to share. 
 
Tagging others that I need to read my thoughts lol! @angelangie @UnniSarah @thartie @lynne22 @n3bula

Whoaahh! That was looonnnggg but surprisingly, I've read them all. Lol. I'll be back too to share my thoughts. For now, I still can't say a better statement for I'm still stuck reading the last couple of chapter in the novel and has not been finish watching the drama. My thoughts and opinion for now are still limited. But, I'll be back! #Terminator! Lol

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1 hour ago, littlemissmiss said:
Alright. I’ve finished the series and I have thoughts.
 
On Sangsang 
  1. C’mon….Less than 4 episodes left of the series and we literally don’t see her for an entire episode? Um, why? And in one of the episodes, she has less screen time and talking time than YHY? 
  2. Since MSS got out of the picture, the production team has rarely given moments between NQ&SS a backing soundtrack. Every sweet scene with NQ&MSS and NY&YHY gets a “oh-my-flutter-in-my-stomach” song and lovey dovey looks. But scenes with NQ&SS are way too brief. 
  3. I just adore SYR as SS. She’s amazing and so adorable. I’m so happy she’s not the typical looking female lead.
 
On this season
  1. Song Yi Ren is amazing as Sangsang. And Chen Fei Yu did an incredible job as Ning Que. I will really miss this duo. I wish they had more screen time in the last few episodes. Looking back, those first few episodes with them feel so nostalgic, pure, and magical.
  2. The actor for Long Qing was amazing! And he is very well built lol! I hope he comes back for season 2 because it helps with the cohesion even if the male lead changes. 
  3. I agree that the production team kind of butchered their romance a bit because of the emphasis on the other characters. I wished CFY had also made googly eyes at SS as he did with the others. Or a look of relief/gratitude during some of their later scenes because it like he was really her master.
  4. For the last battle, I was really hoping to see 
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    all the Fire Fus when XH entered their lake mansion. That would have looked really epic. 

  5. Why did they make YHY into a love sap? One of the good things about here in the first part of this novel is that she thinks NQ is a pile of crap. 
  6. Obviously, we needed more NQ&SS scenes in the later episodes. You could even just show them slurping their noodles for 5 minutes straight and no one would complain.
 
On SangSang in Season 2:
  1. Our girl SS is a genius and you need to keep all those novel bits in. Yes, she is “lazy,” but when she thinks, she outshines everyone. Here are some of the many gems you forgot in Season 1:
    1. That time when Master Yan Se and Wei Guang Ming were going to fight after the chessboard game gets knocked over and they need to get to business. But she remembers exactly where each piece is and gives them more time to not kill each other.
    2. When she beats Tang Xiao Tang like 129 times in chess and that is why TXT has to jump down the waterfall 129 times. 
    3. She is a freaking living version of Google Maps and is the key reason why NQ is able to shoot XH and win during his battle. 
  2. She needs more screen time. She could be washing vegetables for all I care. It’s just not cool how the female lead has less speaking time and I feel like screen time than the other female leads. Like MSS had like 10 episodes with 10+ minutes in each. I think SS is usually in just 1 or 2 scenes and they are too brief.
 
On Season 2: 
  1. I will watch Season 2. I, for the most part, really like the plot. If they keep the same: Director, SYR, Second Brother, CPP—I’m in. I’m kind of upset at the changes they’ve made, but it sort of balances out with the sweet additions they added with SS&NQ. They followed the story better than most adaptations. The cinematography was great, casting & acting caliber was amazing, and the soundtrack is magical. While I am a proud member of TEAM PETTY AF and want to boycott this on the fact that we get a new NQ, I need to give this outstanding production team a chance. Dylan Wang, in my book, was terrible in Meteor Garden while also having some redeeming scenes, but I am hoping he really improves. And with that...
  2. I want more sweet scenes between SS&NQ. I hope DW makes NQ to be more endearing to SS like how he is in the novel. I thought DW in Meteor Garden was great when it came to caring and thoughtful scenes with the female lead. I hope he doesn’t that exude that high and mighty exterior that I found CFY to have in the later episodes with SS. I’m pretty optimistic about this people lol. 
  3. NQ is definitely not my favorite character in the book. Hell, of any book of that matter. His ONLY redeeming quality is his love for SS. I can take him being shameless, but he is way too flirtatious and is tempted (you can argue even does tempt) with the other ladies. Please change this in the drama lol. You gave us unnecessary and nonexistent NQ&MSS/NQ&YHY arcs. Please give us a more loyal Ning Que! LOL  
 
I have more thoughts. Will come back to share. 
 
Tagging others that I need to read my thoughts lol! @angelangie @UnniSarah @thartie @lynne22 @n3bula

@littlemissmiss Well said friend. I have not seen all episodes but I did see many complaints about SYR not having enough screen time. Which is ridiculous because she is the female lead. I love her as well and she is my favorite character and actress in the drama. I wonder if there is favoritism among the other actresses which is why they get more screen time. Who knows. 

 

The drama really failed to make NingSang love story as great as the novel. It left to much doubt and I hate it. I know I sound like a broken record saying this but that's how I feel. S1 is done and over with cannot change what's been done. 

 

I do like that SYR isn't the typical loking female lead. I don't know why female leads always have to be the most beautiful etc. What matters is talent and SYR may not be the most beautiful but she is pretty and has talent. 

 

Arthur did a good job as NQ. Yes more nice moments between him and SS are definitely needed for s2. 

 

I believe Dylan Wang did a great job as DMS in meteor garden. The character had many layers and Dylan pulled off every single one in my opinion. For a beginner he was really good and has the potential to become one if the best actors. He has said he hopes to continue growing as an actor. Which I have no doubt he will. 

 

Yes Dylan is great playing a character who is in love, loyal and caring. If he can show good chemistry on screen with SYR we will be in for a treat with their scenes.  That is if the screenwriter and director can give them good scenes to work with. 

 

I have high hopes that S2 will focus on NingSang story cause it is a story about them and not about unnecessary triangles or squares with YHY being thrown into the mix. To be honest I feel that MSS/YHY will be there a lot. So I'm prepared for that. As long as they make NingSang true to their characters I'll be happy. 

 

I enjoy reading your thoughts on EN so look forward to reading some more of your thoughts. 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, UnniSarah said:

@littlemissmiss

I love your post and so well articulated just like @raziela said. I am not good with words and your points are on point.

 

I have no idea if I’ll be watching Season 2 but agree with you Season 2 is about a really cold NQ. Ironically NQ, SS are my favorite character in the drama. I love all FuZi’s disciple.  I always tend to love and favor the most flawed character in any books or drama only if I understand their background. NQ is selfish but he is kind to the people who treats him or SS good. I understand why NQ is so shameless. He is selfish because he raised himself . He chose the path of being ruthless o he can survive. He is shameless and selfish because of what happened at General household. At a young age he learned you can only rely on himself and only love himself. He also found a SS who was there for him, never feared him and just loved him. She was saw the real him because would an evil person raise a child when he didn’t have the means of taking care of himself. He would meet  people but never really relied on them because he doesn’t trust them to stay by his side. Even Blackie who they worked together, wasn’t someone NQ completely trusted. I remember a scene when Black was staring at SS so much that NQ made SS leave the room because he didn’t like the way he looks at SS. His selfishness is the reason he Saved the world. His experience in life is what prepared him to save the woman he loves.

Even though he likes other woman, they can never really be anything other than like. His bond with SS is pure and strong that no one could break it because she will always be his priority .  The first person NQ told he joined the Devil was SS not MSS. 

 

 

Excellent points made here. I didn't know Black did that. It's all about SS/NQ guys. I think we are more qualified to be screenwriter and directors for EN lol. 

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3 minutes ago, n3bula said:

Excellent points made here. I didn't know Black did that. It's all about SS/NQ guys. I think we are more qualified to be screenwriter and directors for EN lol. 

Hahaha. Only you guys can be qualified. I'll be on a side note throwing some comedy on the drama. Lol

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1 hour ago, lynne22 said:

@littlemissmiss , thank you for sharing your thoughts....

I agree there things about SS that could have been handled better. While this SS is lovable, they do weakens her ability, and her maturity level in the drama goes up and down.. 
I still love her portrayal of SS, but just like you, I wish her smartness were showcased more. 

On this, I blamed the script writer and the director.. Mo Shan shan had an out of the book feel to her, why can't Sang Sang be like that too? They clearly have the ability to do so, they just won't do it for some reason.

 

@UnniSarah has spoken.. Their bond is pure and strong......... 

I won't say much about Ning Que and Sang Sang's relationship... I just want to remember that outside of the young master-handmaiden thing.... for me its just words.... what I value the most is their bonds.

Sang sang's care and trust for Ning Que is unquestionably a big part how NQ can go to his height today... its more subtly underplayed because its not flash and bangs.. but its there nonetheless. 

How for Ning Que, he does need Sang Sang's assurance a lot, even on the days before the last battle, he always quietly look at Sang Sang.. and sang sang always gave her assurance, whether its a word of "I believe you" of even a hug. 

What I want to remember about them is this kind of quiet and subtle bond they had. 

 

I like Long Qing haha... I think he's played him well enough... eventho his hair can be laughable sometimes. LOL.

About Ye Hong Yu.. Sigh.. I like her in the wasteland arc. What the scriptwriter did with adding the romantic undertones is not really necessary... She's an amazing character in the book regardless. 
But, it got me thinking...

You know.. hehe.. for a second there in the drama,, I felt a little guilty because I like Ye Hong yu, and you can see her heartbreak in her eyes, when NQ says SS is the lady of the house... 
And then, she sort of caring to NQ too... which make me feel pity for her... if this is another drama, I would have liked them to be together LOL...
Ning Que of course is cautios of her.. and in fact, he treated her like one of the bros....... 
We know and everyone know this is not going anywhere anyway... the script writer is too creative you guys... on this I can only roll my eyes LOL
And here comes the point of my narration... IMO this is what we should have felt during MSS arc... not that overdone thing that happens in the drama....  Again, they clearly have the ability to do so, they just won't do it for some reason.

I like Mo shan shan but I can't say that I enjoy her arc very much because of this... Sigh.

 

The finale, is a bit dramatic IMO... like what I said to my friends the other day... it made me feel funny and maybe a little sad... but it is so dramatic... haha... if I didn't read the book, I would have been so devastated. Nope nope nope... Sang Sang is just tired, and her sickness resurfaced.:D 

Its still a good ending considering we'll get a second season, eventho I rather wish we have a peaceful ending for this season considering how hard and sad NQ and SS life is going to be later on. 

 

For me EN, is still good drama overall, this is still a good adaptation, with and amazing shots of beautiful scenery and great OST.
Ep 1-12 is the best episode for me, while the quality of the there rest of the episodes can go up and down depending on the story line. Yes, some thing could have been handled better... but I think its not the actors problem rather its in the direction and writing. 

Alas, it is done.. so I can only accept it and move on. 

 

I will miss Chen Fei Yu's NQ, Song Yi Ren's SS, Chen Pipi, and all the brother and sister in the academy.... 

 

I always love your posts.  Agreeing with everything you have said here too.  I think you summed up my feelings with these words "they clearly have the ability to do so, they just won't do it for some reason."  That's what I keep coming back too.  Mao Ni gave them a fantastic blueprint in the original story.  I can accept dramas have to change things but I don't think it's acceptable when it changes the essence of the story in the way they chose to and I can't think of any logical reason why they made those choices.

 

There was a lot I loved about this drama: the great cast, the beautiful scenery, cinematography, sets, music, fights but in the end certain writing, directing and editorial decisions left me very disappointed and confused.  It's sad because the early episodes were wonderful but in the end this drama left me with a bitter taste in my mouth.  

 

I'm appreciating all these posts.  One of the reasons I haven't posted for a couple of days is because I've been trying process my feelings towards the drama and why I'm so unhappy with it even though, objectively, I think it was quite a good drama.  It's nice to see I'm not alone in my thoughts and feelings :)

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22 minutes ago, raziela said:

I always love your posts.  Agreeing with everything you have said here too.  I think you summed up my feelings with these words "they clearly have the ability to do so, they just won't do it for some reason."  That's what I keep coming back too.  Mao Ni gave them a fantastic blueprint in the original story.  I can accept dramas have to change things but I don't think it's acceptable when it changes the essence of the story in the way they chose to and I can't think of any logical reason why they made those choices.

 

There was a lot I loved about this drama: the great cast, the beautiful scenery, cinematography, sets, music, fights but in the end certain writing, directing and editorial decisions left me very disappointed and confused.  It's sad because the early episodes were wonderful but in the end this drama left me with a bitter taste in my mouth.  

 

I'm appreciating all these posts.  One of the reasons I haven't posted for a couple of days is because I've been trying process my feelings towards the drama and why I'm unhappy about it even though, objectively, I don't think it was a bad drama.  It's nice to see I'm not alone in my thoughts and feelings.

Yes, There's plenty of things to enjoy about EN. Great cinematography, epic music score, beautiful costumes

/settings, distinctive fight choreography. 

 

The drama would be flawless if it followed the webnovel. And from learning snippets about the book, everything seems to pan out perfectly how Id imagine it would be, for both NQ/SS.

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1 hour ago, greenwatch08 said:

Even though I enjoy EN, the writing has been insufferable. SS really got the end of the stick & scrapped to the sideline as second fiddle as a character/romantic interest for NQ. I wanted her to have more agency in her own story arc & the drama hasnt deliver so far. Judging from preview clips, I dont think it will. She gets killed/dies for shock value at the last episode, when this season's conflict couldve been resolved easily earlier on if given the time/episodes to develop & give NQ/SS a more fullfilling ending together.

 

NQ as a character is mostly interesting when he's w/SS or interacting w/others. His character development is bare minimum & stagnant. NQ at ep. 40 is pretty much the same NQ from ep.1. The only difference is he gains new abilites but even w/his newfound powers, his growth is almost nonexistent. The drama doesnt showcase NQ studying/learning enough. At times, NQ comes off as rather dull. He's an alright character but has potential to grow, but its executed poorly in a way thats inorganic. 

 

MSS/NQ relationship definitely cheapened NQ/SS would be 'perfect' transition from childhood friends to lovers. The drama needed to give NQ/SS more in-depth interaction to develop their relationship that goes beyond master/handmaiden & domestic activities/running errands for the first half of the show as individuals/pair. I also dislike SS addressing NQ as master the entire show, even after NQ claims/announce her as his wife, she still calls him master? Its ridiculous. Theres no equalness between them & this makes NQ comes off as overbearing. 

 

The romance couldve been handled alot better but this issue has been mentioned on several occassions throughout the thread, so at this point, it is what it is.

 

Some of the characters needed more

development & better writing/

characterization & screentime.

(Ex: Fuzi literally does nothing for 40 episodes besides eating/relaxing on the side of the river & shows up briefly in dream sequences.)

 

Stuff happens too late & too abruptly. Pretty much my criticism of EN is the writing.

I agree with everything you said. Especially with the lack of individual character growth. I would have loved to see more important parts of the story that show us why the characters are the way they are. More scenes of SS with her teacher, cultivation etc. Mao Ni did an amazing job writing the characters and the screenwriter/director fell short from showing this onscreen. Part of me wishes they had different screenwriter/director for next season. 

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1 hour ago, greenwatch08 said:

I havent been this bummed out over a female/favorite character since Ni Ni's character in Rise of the Phoenix. The writing did a huge disservice to her character in favor of the male lead. It was awful.

Same! They shortchanged Feng Zhi Wei in favour of making the drama about Sixth Prince's character<_<   

 

But at least she still got  consistent characterisation, screen time and there was no doubt who the heroine or OTP were in that drama which is more than can be said for our poor Sang Sang and NingSang pairing in Ever Night drama :P

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1 hour ago, n3bula said:

NQ is definitely not my favorite character in the book. Hell, of any book of that matter. His ONLY redeeming quality is his love for SS. I can take him being shameless, but he is way too flirtatious and is tempted (you can argue even does tempt) with the other ladies. Please change this in the drama lol. You gave us unnecessary and nonexistent NQ&MSS/NQ&YHY arcs. Please give us a more loyal Ning Que! LOL  

You're right on point! As much as YHY is bad richard simmons everytime I saw her interaction with NQ I had to roll my eyes.. Was the same when it was NQ MSS it looks like NQ is in love with all these pretty women and with SS during later eps he's always got a pissed off looking face on like his mind wasn't really there? ?

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13 minutes ago, raziela said:

I felt the same way! They shortchanged Feng Zhi Wei in favour of Sixth Prince's character<_<   But at least she still got  consistent characterisation, screen time and there was no doubt who the heroine or OTP were in that drama which is more than can be said for our poor Sang Sang and NingSang pairing in Ever Night :P

I agree.

But the ending was so sad. I felt so sad for her. I read somewhere that the novel was more female centric through FZW's character's perspective & she was a more proactive agent in her revenge/story arc & didnt have such a unfortunate end, unlike the drama since she was placed in all those situation mostly due to the 6th prince's cunningness. She didnt get the revenge arc she derserved. 

 

Yes, I like that there was no muddled love triangle. 

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I've seen a few posts on weibo(not sure if official accounts) but MSS will also still be played by the samg actress. In another video found on YouTube it initially said she would be replaced. Makes me kind of worried if some of your predictions were right about her having such a sweet/overly long story with NQ because she's a bigger star than SYR? and they might demand more screen time for her :crazy:

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8 minutes ago, ningsangcpp said:

You're right on point! As much as YHY is bad richard simmons everytime I saw her interaction with NQ I had to roll my eyes.. Was the same when it was NQ MSS it looks like NQ is in love with all these pretty women and with SS during later eps he's always got a pissed off looking face on like his mind wasn't really there? ?

The scene were YHY met SS and NQ introduced her as lady of the house she looked upset. My thought was oh no here we go. She's in love with him too. Then when he fed her I just rolled my eyes. I thought isn't this girl supposed to be a bad richard simmons girl version of NQ? Guess not. 

 

I've avoided seeing MSS scenes. The flashes NQ had while reading her letter are enough for me to skip all their scenes. 

 

In what scenes did you get the feeling NQ had pissed off look while looking at SS? 

 

I think he had some cute looks for her after she came back and they were eating noodles together. Or when he was in the cave and they ate together. I'm beginning to think all eating scenes are cute lol. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, ningsangcpp said:

I've seen a few posts on weibo(not sure if official accounts) but MSS will also still be played by the samg actress. In another video found on YouTube it initially said she would be replaced. Makes me kind of worried if some of your predictions were right about her having such a sweet/overly long story with NQ because she's a bigger star than SYR? and they might demand more screen time for her :crazy:

I heard rumors that Crystal would stay on as MSS. I've never seen this actress before so is she like a big star? Are her dramas very successful? 

 

I really hope they don't give her longer screen time than SYR. No matter how big of a star she is she isn't the female lead. If her agency wants more screen time have her get a role were she is the lead. I find it very unfair for SYR to get second lined for other actresses. Could it be because the other actresses are considered prettier or due to favoritism? 

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55 minutes ago, raziela said:

I always love your posts.  Agreeing with everything you have said here too.  I think you summed up my feelings with these words "they clearly have the ability to do so, they just won't do it for some reason."  That's what I keep coming back too.  Mao Ni gave them a fantastic blueprint in the original story.  I can accept dramas have to change things but I don't think it's acceptable when it changes the essence of the story in the way they chose to and I can't think of any logical reason why they made those choices.

 

There was a lot I loved about this drama: the great cast, the beautiful scenery, cinematography, sets, music, fights but in the end certain writing, directing and editorial decisions left me very disappointed and confused.  It's sad because the early episodes were wonderful but in the end this drama left me with a bitter taste in my mouth.  

 

I'm appreciating all these posts.  One of the reasons I haven't posted for a couple of days is because I've been trying process my feelings towards the drama and why I'm so unhappy with it even though, objectively, I think it was quite a good drama.  It's nice to see I'm not alone in my thoughts and feelings :)

 

I know what you mean..... I too am fine with changes as long as it kept the heart of the story... Sigh... the earlier episodes were very heartwarming... and I guess it raised my expectation too much. There are many good things they did right, but there are things that disappoint me too. I can't say I'm happy with the changes in the latter episodes. But there's nothing we can do... it is what it is... sigh...

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I won't say much anymore, I just want to remember NQ-SS as one of my favorite couple, with bonds thats beyond superficial.

 

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7 minutes ago, lynne22 said:

 

I know what you mean..... I too am fine with changes as long as it kept the heart of the story... Sigh... the earlier episodes were very heartwarming... and I guess it raised my expectation too much. There are many good things they did right, but there are things that disappoint me too. I can't say I'm happy with the changes in the latter episodes. But there's nothing we can do... it is what it is... sigh...

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I won't say much anymore, I just want to remember NQ-SS as one of my favorite couple, with bonds thats beyond superficial.

 

NQ/SS has the best hugs. SS is NQ's precious sack of rice.

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Here's Chen Fei Yu's farewell post for Evernight :bawling:

Here, he said, he auditioned for the role of Ning Que because he love the character that he read from Jiang Ye. Considered Ning Que as a role model, flawed that he is.

There were times I can't believe he is only 17 to 18 when he played this role. 

 

https://m.weibo.cn/status/4322897017390909

 

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