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Fanmade video: The story of Ye QingMei.

 

Starring:

Ye QingMei - Sandrine Pinna (Once upon a time in Ling Jian Mountain)

Young Emperor - Zhang RuoYun (Novoland the Castle in the Sky)

Fan Jian - Liu HaoRan (Novoland Eagle Flag)

Chen PingPing - Xu Kai (the Legends)

 

https://video.h5.weibo.cn/1034:4466523381628975/4466525525908764

 

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The novel and the drama are fairly different in how they characterise people, so far I've only read till the place where the drama stops-ish. For one, Fan Xian is far more likeable in the drama, and that's such a big thing that I don't think I will read on further. I'll wait two years for a sequel and hope that the adaptation continues to write Fan Xian as an ultimately good person, despite his flaws. It's a great weakness we have in our heroes. We want him to be good, it's easier to root for him that way - even though we know real humans are much more like the novel characterisation.

 

Things like, let him be good, don't let him die, please let his Shifu be okay, no don't hurt Teng Zi Jun's child. Things like do punish that Yan-boy.

 

Honestly, the most dislikable person in the drama is the singlemindedly brainwashed Xiao Zhan character. I know he's been brought up brainwashed, but seriously. Not to mention the fact that his devotion allows for his own desires, but he uses the greater good to explain away his movements when we can hear his thoughts. In this sense, Yan-boy will never be able to reach what Chen Ping Ping has done. With the way that the first season of Qing Yu Nian ended, I really really have a burning desire to slap Xiao Zhan's character.

 

Many reviewers have mentioned the problems with hypocrisy, and I think that's one very long thread that all the characters except perhaps Ruoruo have. Still, we're quite okay with Fan Xian's occasional blip in a moral compass, because he's generally aligned like a chaotic-good. He's shifting more though, and it will suck when he eventually breaks Wan'er's heart. Before that, I think I'd rather stop, sometimes we need to kill our own heroes.

 

I know the drama can't leave the novel too far, if not there will be critics who condemn the deviation. But maybe one day the dramas can be considered better, an improvement on the novel. It's going to be a long wait, but if the novel is going to end up with

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uh a harem plus no good end CPP

then t.t I cannot take it. I will feel terrible because I know Wan'er will let it happen and be happy because she one-sidedly still loves Fan Xian. And what, I'm still reeling from CCP's semi (okay who am I kidding) - betrayal. Still, we can see the drama going near there. The lines drawn were not clear enough for us to rule it out.

 

Usually I like the twists and turns but the ones here have only made me really sad(?), especially since Fan Xian got pummelled by the multifold betrayals. What a series. Now years to wait and time to go seek maybe something a bit more sweet. I will totally rewatch the first forty episodes, helpfully editing out Yan-boy.

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10 hours ago, epinklyn said:

Fanmade video: The story of Ye QingMei.

 

Starring:

Ye QingMei - Sandrine Pinna (Once upon a time in Ling Jian Mountain)

Young Emperor - Zhang RuoYun (Novoland the Castle in the Sky)

Fan Jian - Liu HaoRan (Novoland Eagle Flag)

Chen PingPing - Xu Kai (the Legends)

 

https://video.h5.weibo.cn/1034:4466523381628975/4466525525908764

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thank you ! it's a such well made fan vid. one of my wish is somewhat see interaction between mom and fx's "dads". really bittersweet and heartbreaking.  no one is plain hero or villain. everyone had legit reason for doing things.  i would say,, if i must point who is the most responsible for all the tragedy, i would say ye qing mei for pushing all those modern ideas and revolution too quickly to an unprepared society. it's too naive on her part. but i understand why she did like that. she wouldn't be Ye Qing Mei otherwise. if i were her, in same situation, i too probably would want to doing things same as her.

 

and I wowed on how different ruoyun as young DadEmperor vs as Fan Xian. even the aura and mannerism were so different!

 

 

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On 1/29/2020 at 8:12 PM, dzareth said:

@MaySenpai33, do spoil me about lord shadow. Did FJ really unmasked him in the book? Does he goes around unmasked in his real identity?

 

Which side of the fence do the divisions of CPP's organisation stand at?

Shadow:

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He is actually SuGu jian’s younger brother. We all know Sugu is a grand master but the story is he killed his entire family for bullying him when he was young. He was actually considered a dumb kid and the family always treated him bad except the shadow younger brother. Ye Qingmei and Wuzhu Met sugu when he was young and taught him the grandmaster ways. And the little brother was taught by sugu since the little bro was always good to Sugu. 

 

But one day Sugu wanted revenge on the family and killed everyone but let his younger brother go. His younger brother was hurt but saved by CPP and he vowed revenge on Sugu Jian. Of course he was saved when Ye Qingmei was alive and Wu Zhu was also the commissioner of the council so the shadow always admired Wu Zhu for his strength. 

 

In the book, the shadow disguised himself often and rarely shows his real face. He is also considered by Sugu the first real disciple of the Sugu arts. 

 

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What I am most curious about is if the drama will end with a harem ending. 

 

In the book, Fan xian and wan’er were both fully aware of the other’s feelings and intentions. Wan’er was incredibly mature and acknowledge that there may be other women in his life. She isn’t heartbroken about it either, more so just mad at Fan Xian’s actions. She made it clear to him to not chase or play with the other women’s feelings if he is not serious about them. 

 

Keep in mind that in that ‘time period’, polygamy was normal. Since Fan Xian was especially of noble descent, all the women are aware of each other and no one shows vindictive jealousy. I like all the female characters in the book and I can see different types of chemistry between all the women and Fan xian. And they are ALL ESSENTIAL to the plot. It’s  like the Deer and the Cauldron where the lead has multiple wives and everyone is harmonious. 

 

But i dont think a harem will happen ‘officially’ since I don’t think Fan xian will marry multiple women. He may only have wan’er as a wife but I am still unsure if any romantic moments will happen with the other females like in the book. The book ended openly with regards to his ‘future wives’ and the drama might follow suit 

 

 

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6 hours ago, MaySenpai33 said:

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He is actually SuGu jian’s younger brother. We all know Sugu is a grand master but the story is he killed his entire family for bullying him when he was young. He was actually considered a dumb kid and the family always treated him bad except the shadow younger brother. Ye Qingmei and Wuzhu Met sugu when he was young and taught him the grandmaster ways. And the little brother was taught by sugu since the little bro was always good to Sugu. 

 

But one day Sugu wanted revenge on the family and killed everyone but let his younger brother go. His younger brother was hurt but saved by CPP and he vowed revenge on Sugu Jian. Of course he was saved when Ye Qingmei was alive and Wu Zhu was also the commissioner of the council so the shadow always admired Wu Zhu for his strength. 

 

In the book, the shadow disguised himself often and rarely shows his real face. He is also considered by Sugu the first real disciple of the Sugu arts. 

 

 

Aaaaaa..... No wonder WZ was able to

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Imitate SGJ's art when they brome into the palace..... 

 

Thanks again @MaySenpai33

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1 hour ago, dzareth said:

 

Aaaaaa..... No wonder WZ was able to

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Imitate SGJ's art when they brome into the palace..... 

 

Thanks again @MaySenpai33

 

Ah yeahhh i forgot about this too! 

 

Thx @MaySenpai33! I have another question though

 

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1. Does Ye QingMei have more than one book about grandmaster's ways? So Si GuJian and Ku He has learned from the same book or different books from the Temple? And also the emperor, i forgot whether you have told about him, have the emperor also learn the grandmaster's ways book from Ye QingMei?

 

2. About Wu Zhu, was he a robot that invented by Ye QingMei?

 

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8 hours ago, MaySenpai33 said:

What I am most curious about is if the drama will end with a harem ending. 

 

In the book, Fan xian and wan’er were both fully aware of the other’s feelings and intentions. Wan’er was incredibly mature and acknowledge that there may be other women in his life. She isn’t heartbroken about it either, more so just mad at Fan Xian’s actions. She made it clear to him to not chase or play with the other women’s feelings if he is not serious about them. 

 

Keep in mind that in that ‘time period’, polygamy was normal. Since Fan Xian was especially of noble descent, all the women are aware of each other and no one shows vindictive jealousy. I like all the female characters in the book and I can see different types of chemistry between all the women and Fan xian. And they are ALL ESSENTIAL to the plot. It’s  like the Deer and the Cauldron where the lead has multiple wives and everyone is harmonious. 

 

But i dont think a harem will happen ‘officially’ since I don’t think Fan xian will marry multiple women. He may only have wan’er as a wife but I am still unsure if any romantic moments will happen with the other females like in the book. The book ended openly with regards to his ‘future wives’ and the drama might follow suit 

 

 

 

I think China Censorship doesnt ban harem thing, and it is a common thing in ancient drama, a hero has so many girls like him and around him everywhere, like you said Deer and the Cauldron, Zhu LiuXiang, Yang Guo, Zhang WuJi, etc.. 

 

And since S1's story is different with the novel but still faithfull with the main plot, so the S2 might follow the same path. About the necessity adding more cast for the harem thing, it still has a chance. We'll see!

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I just finish watching this drama, i must say i'm impressed that everyone has their own story and not just pawn that get killed. each has their own ideas and ideology and they fight it out instead just getting slaughtered by main character. 

I must say in term of politics this is the first time i see a well written one. any other tv series like this ? 

Everyone saying CPP is really bad, but i like him the most. I think he is the most loneliest one. 

I watch Novoland eagle flag, and i want to spit blood seeing the mc behaviour. in wuxia light novel he is the most annoying kind of mc. keep hesitating, get nothing done, and do nothing in the end. i love eagle flag war part,, but aside from that the series is totally trash. If this Joy of life have war part like eagle flag. then it would be the most perfect story i have watch so far.

 

Oh and about harem, i love it, in modern story i would prefer monogamy, but it's historical fiction why cant we see it. i love seeing main character get beating and scolding from his wives. 

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On 2/3/2020 at 1:00 PM, angelangie said:

to me Harem is very vast and i think so far only the King is entitle to have 'Harem' :D hahahah a very very big one infact :D 

 

I think the modern usage of "harem" probably came from J pop culture (manga etc) about a male protagonist with many lovers.  

We use the term "reverse harem" to refer to a woman who has many admirers/lovers like in Scarlet Heart.

 

The original term was used the Indian subcontinent to designate the female space in a household.

 

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While I think Joy of Life is one of the best C dramas I've ever watched... the writing and acting are just top-notch... I'm going to stop at the part where FX leaves for the north and pick it up again when the second series is made and shown.

I've been burnt too many times by incomplete dramas.

 

This is a truly great drama... every minute of every moment counts. I never FF through anything. I can't say that about every drama that I've seen. 

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