YourHighness . Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, haymochi said: They should oh and they should also reshoot the final ep before pissing Japanese viewers LOL, are Japanese viewers going to join us at being pissed off at the ending? Because I don't think they can reshoot it now with everyone being so busy..especially the OTP. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrbrown Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 The thing is, I still don’t understand Buja. Didn’t they show in a preview her being trapped in a coffin or a room? Why didn’t they continue that plot line? Why or why?!! <crying and shaking her fist to the deities of Hwayugi > Instead she went where? Basically nowhere . So Im going to write a dear diary to vent my frustration. Dear Diary, Today I ate pancakes. While I ate them, I thought of Hwayugi and it’s potential. Because heck they go together. Potential 1. Buja, Buja with her unnie. Buja and P.K. Buja where are you? 2. JSM self sacrifice. 3. The OTP self sacrifice reward. The end result? JSM vacation to the underworld. I think Japan would have been better. Man if she knew she would be scraficed regardless, maybe the penthouse scenario would have been episode 10 and above. Or at least lots of kisses. As a viewer, I wouldn’t mind. 4. ASN story arc tied together with the politician. Anyone want to add more? @YourHighness . Netflix should ask the cast to sign a contract similar to Marvel’s world. For the prequel, and sequel. Or a manwha.. Just give us something! 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourHighness . Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 1 hour ago, nrbrown said: The thing is, I still don’t understand is Buja. Didn’t they show in a preview her being trapped in a coffin or a room? Why didn’t they continue that plot line? Why or why?!! <crying and shaking her fist to the deities of Hwayugi > Instead she went where? Basically nowhere . So Im going to write a dear diary to vent my frustration. Dear Diary, Today I ate pancakes. While I ate them, I thought of Hwayugi and it’s potential. Because heck they go together. Potential 1. Buja, Buja with her unnie. Buja and P.K. Buja where are you? 2. JSM self sacrifice. 3. The OTP self sacrifice reward. The end result? JSM vacation to the underworld. I think Japan would have been better. Man if she knew she would be scraficed regardless, maybe the penthouse scenario would have been episode 10 and above. Or at least lots of kisses. As a viewer, I wouldn’t mind. 4. ASN story arc tied together with the politician. Anyone want to add more? @YourHighness . Netflix should ask the cast to sign a contract similar to Marvel’s world. For the prequel, and sequel. Or a manwha.. Just give us something! Actually that scene was Buja trapped in the container when ASN possessed her. It was not a coffin. They did show that scene to us. Ah, so many plots wasted. How about SOG as CEO of M group? Is he just going to disappear from the earth again now that KDS and the threat is gone? If he will be back in the human world..how will they explain JSM's reappearance? Amnesia due to the accident? Does this mean she will get her business back? I dunno about a contract..does K entertainment industry even have such contracts? BTW someone on LSG-OYS shipping thread mentioned that there's a rumor that Winter General claimed the car scene was not supposed to be the ending. Due to time constraint, they had to show it as the ending and apparently for Japan airing, they may change it. No idea how true this rumor is. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taskdramafanatic Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Here is chapter 3 to my fanfiction https://my.w.tt/70rmw2BYcL ....to all the Hwayugi fans who are missing oh gong and SunMi as much as I am... On the side note, the love-love scene from ep 5 was the first clip I saw of Hwayugi and that's what convinced me to watch the drama because I wasn't originally interested in watching it after hearing park bogum rejected the drama. But now I can't see anyone playing oh gong as perfect as LSG. In fact LSG is SOG... Anyhoo and after binge watching the first 8 episodes I was totally and utterly and irrevocably in love with this drama and it's OTP (seriously their chemistry is no joke.). I still go back and watch the scene it was such a gem.... Ahh....good times.... After having my heart broken into million pieces by Hong sisters I decided to write my own happy ending for my OTP... also to overcome my withdrawal syndrome and writing about SunMi and oh gong helps... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haymochi Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Thank you.. *runs off wattpad* My withdrawals symptom is still too strong right now aaah yes, i did read about Park Bo Gum casting at the beginning. I like him too but he is so puppyish and Oh Yeon Seo will look like a nuna to him (although in one of her interview, he did say that she is a fangirl of him as well) i can't imagine other casting for these two cos they have this deep, real, hot, and sexy chemistry that made your stomach churn everytime you see them.Lee Seung Gi portrayal of SOG is just too perfect... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrbrown Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 @haymochi @taskdramafanatic I concur, LSG was fantastic in his role as SOG. PBG is cute/handsome and a good actor, but he doesn’t appeal to me to be honest. Maybe too innocent? <goes in search for his Wikipedia page to check his age> Small interlude. <comes back> Yep, now I know why. I doubt we would have gotten a sizzling, and hot romance story. Thank you LSG for accepting the role instead! @YourHighness . Thanks for reminding me about the scene. I wish she was still trapped tho. Maybe we can play, Where in the world is Buja? Ah yes SOG the cheobol. Rather short lived. But at least 503 couple had a wonderful time at the penthouse. Wasn’t wasted. Phew! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvrels Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 7 hours ago, YourHighness . said: LOL, are Japanese viewers going to join us at being pissed off at the ending? Because I don't think they can reshoot it now with everyone being so busy..especially the OTP. A friend post in Seungyeon forum, the Japan version gonna be edited, the ep 2 delete scene gonna include in the episode and the ending gonna be added, probably Japan version gonna have closure in the end Guys lets pray the ending in Japanese version of Hwayugi gonna has closure and better than original version 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40somethingahjumma Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 16 hours ago, nrbrown said: @40somethingahjumma The ASN story arc had soooo much potential <grumble, grumble> and it pretty much fell flat on its face. After watching the bookseller arc you would think she will be an awesome evil character. Up it’s game format? The exact opposite of JSM etc,etc. But instead we received a 1000 yr old virgin kitten I personally thought JSM should have stopped worrying too much if SOG loved her for real or not. And just go with the flow. Think in the present for SOG, and start thinking a little more on the doomsday scenario of the future. Cause if I had a doomsday scenario forced upon me, I would pretty much try to be happy in the present. But that’s just me. As a second tier villain, ASY was fine. As someone who was capable of disrupting relationships and causing widespread mischief in the city, she would've worked well. I didn't have any problems with her trying to come in between OG and SM... "trying" being the operative word here. Of course no one below the pay grade of a bottisatva can really pull wool over SOG's eyes. I had more than a few laughs watching OG outwit her and making her life a living nightmare while she was in possession of SM's body. All of that is very much in keeping with the spirit of the JttW. Sure she had a very nasty habit of feeding on humans but that didn't seem to translate into anything massively urgent and nobody seemed to notice or care. What would have raised the stakes from my perspective, is if she had called out the dragon earlier and it took possession of KDS who in turned killed her, paving the way for him to be a far more formidable villain. With the dragon feeding off all the negative energy in and around KDS, it could have become incredibly powerful to the point where even the Great Sage would have really struggled to overcome it. I was a little disappointed that the writers didn't do more with the Korea Foundation's roots as pro-Japanese collaborators during the occupation and delve more deeply into KDS' present day political relationships as he heads for the Blue House's top job. Some of that was touched on at the end in a very rushed fashion but in the end KDS seemed to be a mere puppet. The second point you raised was one I mentioned in the early days of the series. I think the romance could have gone either one of two ways. But since they wanted the geumganggo to be a catalyst for love we got what we got. In the end the push-pull with the geumganggo went a bit too long because as we now know, they wanted the geumganggo to save OG's life... presumably informing us in banal fashion that "love conquers all". I still feel that the SM/SJ character was underserviced in this drama only because she was largely the primary vehicle for SOG's transformation into a better behaved monkey. She would take a step forward and then go back two steps in that dynamic, coming across as being indecisive while he would be kept on his toes bemoaning his enslavement. I truly did enjoy the first half of the show which gave me a lot of laughs. When the show didn't take itself too seriously and was very clever about it, it was brilliant. Even the moralizing underlying the ghostbustering was fantastic. But when it started to head towards messianic angst territory while still trying to be humorous, the show started to flounder and the financial restraints showed. Thanks for interacting with me dear. Really appreciate it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haymochi Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, dvrels said: A friend post in Seungyeon forum, the Japan version gonna be edited, the ep 2 delete scene gonna include in the episode and the ending gonna be added, probably Japan version gonna have closure in the end Guys lets pray the ending in Japanese version of Hwayugi gonna has closure and better than original version What???!! This is so unfair.... why do they treat Korean viewers and us this way hmmph...i'm seeing red right now don't tell me they are going to give lots of bts for the otp too? Dvd Dvd where are you?? I need to pre order like right now 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvrels Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 19 minutes ago, haymochi said: What???!! This is so unfair.... why do they treat Korean viewers and us this way hmmph...i'm seeing red right now don't tell me they are going to give lots of bts for the otp too? Dvd Dvd where are you?? I need to pre order like right now I just wish we can access to the Japanese version, so we can see the better ending, also I'm curious about the deleted scene in ep 2 hahaha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haneybee87@gmail.com Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 I think they cut quite a lot of scenes from hwayugi.. Correct me if I am wrong, hongki did post pic in his insta where Pal Gye were in a lockup..I didnt see it in any of the episodes..not sure if it is supposed to be in the drama or not tho.. he wore the same outfit.. i wish I can watch the japanese version if they had diff ending.. I really hope so! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candiilicious Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Glad to hear that they are gonna add in the deleted scenes probably the original ending (If the rumours were true) in jap version! Yes, now im hoping we can have access to jap version too! if not just release the dvd with all the cut bts scene, deleted scenes and the better ending heehe 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toxicblood Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 12:40 PM, YourHighness . said: LHJ will be fine as we saw from the flash of future that JSM had. Yes. Her body rests in Sureumdong..or maybe SOG burned it so that no demon would get in and try to eat her body to gain strength. Sorry @YourHighness . to cut your post short. That's what I'd like to think too that her body is now at peace in Sureumdong. I think SOG doesn't have the heart to burn her though On 3/10/2018 at 12:14 PM, sadpluto said: I don't think he mentioned not finding her corpse. He just said she got in a car accident and her relatives didn't even bother with a proper funeral. We haven't really been told what happened to her corpse. One more unanswered question. I'm getting pissed again. @haymochi I wish there were 2 more episodes as well. I still remember a few weeks ago when we were all confused because one of the websites cited this show having 22 episodes. Some of us were excited that this show might have had an extension, alas it turned out to be false news. Though this show would have benefited with an extension, I guess they had major budget constraints. @sadpluto Your comment made me go back to download newer version of subtitle from Viki!! And it's indeed as you said! LHJ didn't mention not finding her corpse but mentioned her relatives not bothering to give her a proper funeral. Guess it's time to rewatch with newer sub Still I am under an impression that SOG was the one burying her before going off to fight the Black Dragon. Could even think that he sealed her off with his power so that he could retrieve her soul back from the Netherworld afterward. But then he lost his memory. I firmly believe he definitely wouldn't allow anyone to touch her corpse, even more so if it's her heartless relatives who he'd seen firsthand mistreating Sun Mi for her entire human life. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haymochi Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 hours ago, toxicblood said: Sorry @YourHighness . to cut your post short. That's what I'd like to think too that her body is now at peace in Sureumdong. I think SOG doesn't have the heart to burn her though @sadpluto Your comment made me go back to download newer version of subtitle from Viki!! And it's indeed as you said! LHJ didn't mention not finding her corpse but mentioned her relatives not bothering to give her a proper funeral. Guess it's time to rewatch with newer sub Still I am under an impression that SOG was the one burying her before going off to fight the Black Dragon. Could even think that he sealed her off with his power so that he could retrieve her soul back from the Netherworld afterward. But then he lost his memory. I firmly believe he definitely wouldn't allow anyone to touch her corpse, even more so if it's her heartless relatives who he'd seen firsthand mistreating Sun Mi for her entire human life. Judging from SOG character, he won't let anyone go near Sunmi's body. I think other than the pain and memory loss, the reason he sealed Sireumdong was because of that reason too. I don't think he will ever bury her body... he gonna retrieve her soul and bring her back Uurgh stupid writers *sorry*.. still can't believe they wrote such scripts for the last ep. I'm still bitter that Sunmi's miserable life since birth because of her burdensome fate was made into a joke anyhow read that the ending was like that because of the time constraint in when filming the last ep??? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourHighness . Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 10 hours ago, nrbrown said: @YourHighness . Thanks for reminding me about the scene. I wish she was still trapped tho. Maybe we can play, Where in the world is Buja? Ah yes SOG the cheobol. Rather short lived. But at least 503 couple had a wonderful time at the penthouse. Wasn’t wasted. Phew! LOL yeah..that was the only good thing that came off of SOG becoming the CEO of M group. I wonder if having hanky panky without demons with super hearing nearby, is why they made him into the CEO, so he would have the penthouse for the deed. 6 hours ago, toxicblood said: Sorry @YourHighness . to cut your post short. That's what I'd like to think too that her body is now at peace in Sureumdong. I think SOG doesn't have the heart to burn her though @sadpluto Your comment made me go back to download newer version of subtitle from Viki!! And it's indeed as you said! LHJ didn't mention not finding her corpse but mentioned her relatives not bothering to give her a proper funeral. Guess it's time to rewatch with newer sub Still I am under an impression that SOG was the one burying her before going off to fight the Black Dragon. Could even think that he sealed her off with his power so that he could retrieve her soul back from the Netherworld afterward. But then he lost his memory. I firmly believe he definitely wouldn't allow anyone to touch her corpse, even more so if it's her heartless relatives who he'd seen firsthand mistreating Sun Mi for her entire human life. Yeah, I don't think he burned her either..he couldn't bear it since that would be too final..a goodbye of sorts and we all know SOG is a fighter and a rebel. After his heartbreak, I am sure he got angry, we even saw that in the episode when he glanced at the heaven, full of rage before he was shown walking towards the sword to defeat the Dragon. I think we can safely imagine that between those scenes, he had her body hidden somewhere in Seureumdong..a part of me thinks, he won't bury her..he probably encompassed her in a bubble of his power and maybe submerged her in the lake. She died in front of it. The lake would be handy to keep her body unharmed and clean. BTW, I wonder if JSM's relative didn't give her a funeral just because they didn't care about her or also because they got pissed that their meal ticket is gone and they won't even get her inheritance. Whatever it is..they are just vile creatures. The reason I think the ending hurt me so much..even though I know that SOG will break her out of LoD and live with her forever happily is that JSM's life was just so sad, pitiful and lonely. I feel so bad for her. At least Buja had her mother and her love. I have a feeling, JSM lived by herself after her grandmother died. Her uncle must have refused to take her in. After so much pain, she died in vain..that was too painful for me to bear. If only I had seen her happy, I would have let the show go but the ending showed JSM dead and SOG alone but off to get her. We never got a resolution, a closure. 7 hours ago, candiilicious said: Glad to hear that they are gonna add in the deleted scenes probably the original ending (If the rumours were true) in jap version! Yes, now im hoping we can have access to jap version too! if not just release the dvd with all the cut bts scene, deleted scenes and the better ending heehe How I hope this comes true. But when will the show air it's last episode in Japan? How long do we have to wait? Maybe the ending needed CGI and the team didn't have enough time for it so rather than give us a half baked scene, they cancelled it altogether and showed us that crappy sunset drive scene? Edit: Can someone pm me links for raw episodes of Hwayugi please? Torrents are also fine. Episodes 1-4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaotome Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 On 3/10/2018 at 3:09 PM, briseis said: So what happened? How terrible it must have been to make OG lose all trust in humans forever? Who betrayed him - a man or a woman? Did OG care for that person? Did he love him/her? I thought they explained this with the story about him stopping the smoke from the mountains and how he did it for attention, not for humankind's sake, and that's why he was punished and the humans didn't care? I think it says something about how much this drama resonated with people (and how empty the ending left us) that this thread is still going strong over a week after the finale aired. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briseis Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 3 hours ago, ladysaotome said: I thought they explained this with the story about him stopping the smoke from the mountains and how he did it for attention, not for humankind's sake, and that's why he was punished and the humans didn't care? I think it says something about how much this drama resonated with people (and how empty the ending left us) that this thread is still going strong over a week after the finale aired. The betrayal was such a huge motivation for OG, explaining why he was the way he was, that it deserved more than a one passing mention. There should have been flashbacks and more depth and more detail. Also, it's inconsistent and contradictory to what was mentioned about it previously - it was said that OG was betrayed by A HUMAN (one specific) not humans - also OG never adressed it whenever SM asked; it also doesn't explain why OG was so affected by the mermaid story. The thing is that throughout the whole story it was shown that this betrayal hurt him deeply, so much that it created a lasting disdain for humans in him. The disdain and hurt was deep but then MW said that OG didn't do it because he cared for humans so logically their betrayal shouldn't have hurt him much. However, the mermaid tale and also how he advises BJ to seek revenge and how he despises humans show that he was hurt. You can get hurt only when you care. Even OG himself said that himself. Therefore this is a huge writing mistake on Hong Sisters' part. Finally, your character mainstory isn't something you mention in the last episode, at a point where it doesn't even matter anymore, like a by-the-way. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourHighness . Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, briseis said: The betrayal was such a huge motivation for OG, explaining why he was the way he was, that it deserved more than a one passing mention. There should have been flashbacks and more depth and more detail. Also, it's inconsistent and contradictory to what was mentioned about it previously - it was said that OG was betrayed by A HUMAN (one specific) not humans - also OG never adressed it whenever SM asked; it also doesn't explain why OG was so affected by the mermaid story. The thing is that throughout the whole story it was shown that this betrayal hurt him deeply, so much that it created a lasting disdain for humans in him. The disdain and hurt was deep but then MW said that OG didn't do it because he cared for humans so logically their betrayal shouldn't have hurt him much. However, the mermaid tale and also how he advises BJ to seek revenge and how he despises humans show that he was hurt. You can get hurt only when you care. Even OG himself said that himself. Therefore this is a huge writing mistake on Hong Sisters' part. Finally, your character mainstory isn't something you mention in the last episode, at a point where it doesn't even matter anymore, like a by-the-way. Actually the word used for human and humans is almost same....so it was just an assumption by the subbers that it was a betrayal by ONE HUMAN. And SOG used to be very narcissistic and the fact that the humans forgot him after he helped them out and got imprisoned that must have stuck in his craw. I am not surprised he felt so betrayed even though he didn't care about humans. But I agree that the show should have cleared up his backstory way before and maybe even showed it to us, instead of using the exposition fairy. Which annoys me because we all watch shows to SEE...if we wanted to imagine, a book would be readily available with a guaranteed happy ever after with all plot threads tied. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaotome Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, YourHighness . said: And SOG used to be very narcissistic and the fact that the humans forgot him after he helped them out and got imprisoned that must have stuck in his craw. I am not surprised he felt so betrayed even though he didn't care about humans. This. If the book is anything to go by, all he pretty much ever cared about was himself and maybe his kingdom on monkeys. And remember how massively callous he was in the first episode? He may have felt betrayed by the humans but it was a childish, narcissistic betrayal. It didn't form who he was, if anything it just probably reinforced his previous notions. I always felt the main point of the mermaid episode was 1) the way the Sun Mi took the mermaid's side once she understood the facts - that, I think, was a huge and unexpected act from Oh Gong's perspective 2) the way he identified with the mermaid in the fact that Sun Mi may choose to not return his love (which he was confronted with again at the end when Jonathan turns up) and the whole "is he as pitiful as the mermaid" question which she answered both of which were her taking huge steps toward him and his point of view. I do think the episode flags the human betrayal issue as something bigger than it ended up being though. They should have either not said anything or explained it right away because the way we heard about it later was deflating. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liting1 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Apparently, someone said TVN won't make a season 2 if there's only 1k voters. They want 1 million in order to make a season 2. Haha. Crazy. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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