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Happy New Year everyone!!! 

 

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My Mister was certainly a new and unexpected experience for me the past year: from the show to all the consequent activities that came after -- lots of re-watching, reading around, writing stuff, meeting new online friends..

 

And learning new skills like gif-making! :hooray:

 

Wishing everyone a fun and healthy 2022!!

 

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Happy New Year, everyone! 

 

Glad to see this thread continue almost 4 years after My Mister premiered. I still remember the excitement of anticipating this drama those first few weeks of 2018.

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On 12/30/2021 at 6:26 PM, the_sweetroad said:

So insightful! So great to see the pictures now. It confirms and cements the purpose of the final scene for sure. Commenter UnlikelyCouple1970's on Give Me Slippers said that Ki Hoon's screenplay notes of "Scene 1: A crazy b*** entered my life" was shown immediately before Ji An walked into the coffee shop. So putting together Yu Ra's lines and styling in that movie, as well as Ki Hoon's "introduction" of a new scene, means we have a new love-filled beginning about to start.

 

Ohh yes I didn’t notice that the screenplay notes from Ki Hoon was the cue for the next scene where Ji An enters the coffee shop. And yes, the lines from Yu Ra and now the notes from Ki Hoon certainly “confirms and cements the purpose of the final scene.” Even before I was able to recognize these two cuing scenes, I’m already quite firm that the ending is not an open ending at all, just based on the JA’s and DH’s story arcs, but these two additional clues pretty much puts it beyond doubt.

 

And true to the technique used by the show where many important scenes and events have a parallel counterpart, that screenplay notes is reminiscent of a scene in ep 1 where Sang Hoon was narrating his ahjussi sotry and DH reminded him that the story needs a woman. And Sang Hoon replied “How should she enter the story?” Cue the next scene where Ji An was washing dishes. This time, Ki Hoon’s line went “A crazy b**** entered my life.” The first scene used the word “story,” indicating that the female lead has entered the show’s plot. This time “entered my life” is much more personal and intimate, indicating that in the next scene, the female lead is about to enter DH’s personal life and space.

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I want to supplement @arctichare's beer theory of divorce, which this post collected.

 

SH has a dialogue in EP7:

 

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And the Park brothers drink beer in this scene.

 

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I don't know whether it had mentioned or not before.
But I think these two clues may make the beer theory of divorce more persuasive.

 

Moreover, I think this beer theory would be more persuasive if we could analyze when director KWS use face or back to end the telephone scene.

 

 

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End by DH's face.

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End by DH's back.

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By the way, had the similarity of these two scenes been mentioned before?

 

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They are connected.

These two scenes are shot at the same location, and with the similarly dialogue.

And both SH and JA grasp DH.

 

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SH: Do you like her?

DH: Ki-hoon, stop him. Stop.

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JA: You don't want me to stop? Do you like me?

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Maybe some of SH's dialogue is also worth us analyzing.

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@the_sweetroad, @actionscript

I think I found tree's symbol.

It is from OST8 Forest.

 

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[Pain]

It has grown too big to just leave alone
You need to cut down this tree of pain

 

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JA's pain.

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DH's pain.

 

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[Happiness]

A new leaf will sprout and become your tree
So you can lean on it and rest when the wind blows

 

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So the tree symbol in EP1 to EP16(before the reunion) is JA's and DH's pain.
And in the ending of EP16, the tree symbol becomes happiness.
(I don't know how to say this, but I remember DH's dialogue "let's be happy.")

 

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Note: The lyrics here are from Popgasa.

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On 1/1/2022 at 3:44 AM, YukawaCattle said:

Recently I collected some straight lines and did classification.
I am not a photography major, but in my opinion, the straight lines in My Mister has 5 main usages:


to represent opposition (red), to represent alliance (green), to represent negotiation (yellow), to represent estrangement (blue), and to split-screen (white).

 

This is a great collection of screenshots with straight lines! I especially appreciated seeing the lines that clearly showed opposition (red) and alliance (green), with the overlaps and being "inside" the lines. Great insights!

 

11 hours ago, YukawaCattle said:

They are connected.

These two scenes are shot at the same location, and with the similarly dialogue.

And both SH and JA grasp DH.

 

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SH: Do you like her?

DH: Ki-hoon, stop him. Stop.

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JA: You don't want me to stop? Do you like me?

 

And oh, nice catch. I never noticed the similarity of the scenes or the dialogue, but parallel phrases and sentiments come out of both. Interesting!

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Sorry to bother you guys, but I want to supplement the tree symbol more.

But I am not a good writer.

I only could use lyrics to represent what I mean.

I hope you guys will understand why I re-post this.

 

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[Pain]

 

It might be too hard to endure

It might hurt so much that tears fall

It has grown too big to just leave alone

You need to cut down this tree of pain

 

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JA's pain.

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DH's pain 1. There is a tree on his back.

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DH's pain 2.

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DH's pain 3.

 

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[Rebuild mind]

 

A new leaf will sprout and become your tree

So you can lean on it and rest when the wind blows

Lay down the heavy burden on your shoulder

You don’t have to be in pain anymore

That’s not your fault

 

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[Happiness]

 

The tree will grow and become your forest

So you can run all you want even when the wind blows

Throw away the heavy burden on your shoulder

You can just smile now

Yes, this is your forest here

 

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Note: The lyrics here are from Popgasa.

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20 hours ago, YukawaCattle said:

Moreover, I think this beer theory would be more persuasive if we could analyze when director KWS use face or back to end the telephone scene.

 

@YukawaCattle It’s amazing and quite impressive how you can discover these hidden patterns!

 

I’ve been wondering why in most scenes of DH walking, it’s his back that is shown, but in certain though fewer instances, it’s his front. I never bothered to find the answer, but what you pointed out here makes sense.

 

20 hours ago, YukawaCattle said:

By the way, had the similarity of these two scenes been mentioned before?

They are connected.

These two scenes are shot at the same location, and with the similarly dialogue.

And both SH and JA grasp DH.

 

Another great catch there! The show is littered with parallel scenes and dialogues and with your new discovery here, now I won’t be surprised if every single scene or conversation even by the most minor of characters like the bar ahjussis would have a parallel counterpart somewhere in the show. I’m sure they’d vary in significance, but mind-blowing nevertheless!

 

6 hours ago, YukawaCattle said:

Sorry to bother you guys, but I want to supplement the tree symbol more.

But I am not a good writer.

I only could use lyrics to represent what I mean.

I hope you guys will understand why I re-post this.

 

The additional photos you posted definitely added to my understanding.. I have downloaded Forest as part of my My Mister playlist but never really bothered to check its meaning, as it’s not as popular as the other OSTs. But wow you’re right, the song nicely captured the sentiments of the main characters’ pain and re-growth, and nicely represented by the trees and greeneries in the background as well. If I’m not mistaken, the show only used Forest once and it was to introduce us to the time skip sequence in ep 16.

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17 hours ago, the_sweetroad said:

This is a great collection of screenshots with straight lines! I especially appreciated seeing the lines that clearly showed opposition (red) and alliance (green), with the overlaps and being "inside" the lines. Great insights!

 

I am glad you like them.
Maybe it is a tool that could help me understand every scene more.
So I did some classification and shared it here.

 

17 hours ago, the_sweetroad said:

And oh, nice catch. I never noticed the similarity of the scenes or the dialogue, but parallel phrases and sentiments come out of both. Interesting!

8 hours ago, actionscript said:

Another great catch there! The show is littered with parallel scenes and dialogues and with your new discovery here, now I won’t be surprised if every single scene or conversation even by the most minor of characters like the bar ahjussis would have a parallel counterpart somewhere in the show. I’m sure they’d vary in significance, but mind-blowing nevertheless!

 

Thank you both.
I found them just because I love SH so much, lol.
He is so funny.:1646639759_ezgif.com-gif-maker(1):

 

8 hours ago, actionscript said:

@YukawaCattle It’s amazing and quite impressive how you can discover these hidden patterns!

I’ve been wondering why in most scenes of DH walking, it’s his back that is shown, but in certain though fewer instances, it’s his front. I never bothered to find the answer, but what you pointed out here makes sense.


Stephan always teaches us how to notice every scene.
So I think back, or front also has its own meaning.


In some sense, Stephan is my teacher.

 

8 hours ago, actionscript said:

The additional photos you posted definitely added to my understanding.. I have downloaded Forest as part of my My Mister playlist but never really bothered to check its meaning, as it’s not as popular as the other OSTs. But wow you’re right, the song nicely captured the sentiments of the main characters’ pain and re-growth, and nicely represented by the trees and greeneries in the background as well.

 

I first noticed this photo

 

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and thought maybe it is like this, lol.

 

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So if @the_sweetroad didn't tell me OST, like Dear Moon, hid some information,

I think I wouldn't solve this symbol.

 

I notice the photo is weird because the shadow "touch" JA.
Why JA at the tail of the shadow?
JA could be more located on the left or right side, right?
Why is she located at the tail of the shadow?
So I think her location is "artificial," and director KWS must hide something here.
It bothers me for lots of days until I check OST8.
I am glad I could figure it out.
This is a beautiful symbol that so touches me.

 

8 hours ago, actionscript said:

If I’m not mistaken, the show only used Forest once and it was to introduce us to the time skip sequence in ep 16.

 

Yes, only once.
So it is tough for the audience to connect them, I think.
But I think that's why solving them makes lots of fun.
I think KWS not only makes a drama but also makes a game.
My Mister is a puzzle game.

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It's a couple days late, but happy new year! Discovering My Mister was probably my highlight for 2021 - and a large part of that is all the great discussions here in this thread. Thanks to everyone here!

 

Let's hope that we find something equally amazing in 2022 :)

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I think tree symbol is one of the tools that can help us know that DH and YH are already divorced.
Because YH is one of DH's trees of pain.

 

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Following JA's advice, DH came to the front of YH's workplace.

 

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Note that there is a tree in front of the telephone booth.

 

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Note the last relative position of YH.

 

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So YH=tree

 

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The director re-emphasized through the screen that YH = tree

 

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DH remembered the unpleasantness with YH, and there were a lot of trees around them.

 


Combined this with the lyrics of OST8:

 

[Cut down the tree of pain]

It might be too hard to endure

It might hurt so much that tears fall

It has grown too big to just leave alone

You need to cut down this tree of pain

 

[Rebuild mind]

A new leaf will sprout and become your tree

So you can lean on it and rest when the wind blows

Lay down the heavy burden on your shoulder

You don’t have to be in pain anymore

That’s not your fault

 

[Happiness]

The tree will grow and become your forest

So you can run all you want even when the wind blows

Throw away the heavy burden on your shoulder

You can just smile now

Yes, this is your forest here

 

So we understand that at the end of the story, DH will cut down the tree of pain, rebuild the heart, and grow into a forest of happiness.

 

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DH reunited with JA, smiling brightly, with a greeeeeen background.

 

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DH and JA reunite at the greeeeeen coffee shop.

 

 

Since we have seen the forest of happiness at the end of EP16, which means that DH has cut down the tree of pain, and YH is one of his trees, so we get the fact that she has been cut down, which means that they are divorced.

 

(Process of OST8 is [Cut down the tree of pain]->[Rebuild mind] -> [Happiness], so we can get this result.)

 

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Digression.
JY is also a tree.

 

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JY=tree

 

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By the way, I want to supplement this post.
There is also one connection between EP5 and EP6: ending scene with trees!

 

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Lyrics from popgasa.

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On 1/4/2022 at 4:51 AM, YukawaCattle said:

I think tree symbol is one of the tools that can help us know that DH and YH are already divorced.
Because YH is one of DH's trees of pain.

 

You really are on to something with the trees! It is interesting how often trees show up in the show, especially with Yoon Hee. I'd never noticed them before you pointed them out, but now I will need to look for straight lines AND trees when I next watch the show. :lol:

 

Also, guys, some interesting discussions in the spoiler thread for Episodes 7 and 8 at the Fan Girl Verdict site: https://thefangirlverdict.com/2021/12/29/spoiler-zone-my-mister-episodes-7-8/ . Please join in if you see fit! B)

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16 hours ago, the_sweetroad said:

You really are on to something with the trees! It is interesting how often trees show up in the show, especially with Yoon Hee. I'd never noticed them before you pointed them out, but now I will need to look for straight lines AND trees when I next watch the show. :lol:

Finding them makes lots of fun to me.
I hope you will also enjoy them. :1646639759_ezgif.com-gif-maker(1):

 

16 hours ago, the_sweetroad said:

After the Man v Drama threads (which I thoroughly enjoyed), I'm feeling tired....I feel like I'm talking until I'm blue in the face about lovelines and "evidence" of divorce and DH's attraction to JA.... It's tough to be in the shipper camp. :D Seeing only a platonic relationship between DH and JA would be much, much easier and simpler. :joy:

 

In my opinion, combined tree symbol with beer theory might directly end divorce controversy.

Because the combination of these two is logical enough, I think.

 

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@actionscript

Last time you mentioned the siren's sound also shows up in EP6 this scene.

 

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And EP9 this scene.

 

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This sound 100% is artificial, but we still don't know whether it is a symbol.
But if it is a symbol, it may be connected to the police car or police station.
I remember we hear the sound like that is only from the police car.
No ambulance in this show, right?

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15 hours ago, YukawaCattle said:

@actionscript

Last time you mentioned the siren's sound also shows up in EP6 this scene.

 

And EP9 this scene.

 

This sound 100% is artificial, but we still don't know whether it is a symbol.
But if it is a symbol, it may be connected to the police car or police station.
I remember we hear the sound like that is only from the police car.
No ambulance in this show, right?

 

Good catches @YukawaCattle!

Yes I've noticed the siren sound coming up more and more in my random re-watches of some scenes. There's also one in this scene when he received the slippers from JA in ep 10:

 

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And good observation that we've seen and heard sirens from police cars in the show and not from ambulances!

And it's still a mystery to me on whether they are intentional or not (I'm leaning towards intentional), what they mean or if there's a pattern on when they turn up. Though I'm thinking it's just a novelty rather than something that will radically change our understanding of the show. Perhaps they're fillers to engage our senses during lull moments of some scenes.

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The following is my interpretation for the meaning of "CAUTION: ELECTRICITY."

It is from Yura's dialogue.

 

(EP10)

 

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YR: The cinematographer and the lighting director are all nice. The staff dinner was fun. But Sometimes my heart gives me a jolt.

KH: Should I come over?

YR: No. It's not that bad. Do you remember when you did 100m sprint in school

and how you felt right before the starting pistol went off? You kind of feel electrified. When you scolded me really badly before, I didn't know what to do because the shock was too terrible.

This is only a hundredth of that.

KH: I'm coming.

 

So I guess to PDH in this scene:

 

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the starting pistol=JA says goodbye to him, 

electricity=his terrible emotion before JA says goodbye to him.

 

That's why he doesn't want to hang up the phone.

 

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Because he is too afraid to face JA say goodbye to him.

 

According to this, I think the loveline of DH and JA's new start make sense,

which @actionscript and @the_sweetroad discussed in older posts.
Because Yura's dialogue hides too many important things for the audience.

 

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4 hours ago, actionscript said:

Good catches @YukawaCattle!

Yes I've noticed the siren sound coming up more and more in my random re-watches of some scenes. There's also one in this scene when he received the slippers from JA in ep 10:

 

I also heard that sound at the scene you mentioned after you shared it.

 

4 hours ago, actionscript said:

And good observation that we've seen and heard sirens from police cars in the show and not from ambulances!

And it's still a mystery to me on whether they are intentional or not (I'm leaning towards intentional), what they mean or if there's a pattern on when they turn up. Though I'm thinking it's just a novelty rather than something that will radically change our understanding of the show. Perhaps they're fillers to engage our senses during lull moments of some scenes.

 

And now I think it is not connected with the police car.
I agree with you that it is intentional.
I think it is connected with the emotion described by "CAUTION: ELECTRICITY."
Because in this scene, the symbol shows up again.

 

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I think to LJA  in this scene:

the starting pistol=confess to PDH,

electricity= her terrible emotion before hearing PDH reject her.

 

And the siren sound shows up again at this moment.

 

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So maybe the siren sound=electricity in this show.

 

I think "electricity" is not only the symbol for the bad emotion.
It might be the symbol of any feeling which could shock people.

 

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By the way, I think the symbols in this show have two usages.


For the audience, the symbols help us understand the character's emotions.
But for the character in the show, I think when the character sees the symbol,

he/she is thinking about something.
So I still think DH in this scene is thinking about die.

 

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One reason is, this script has many repeated elements, and we see DH wanted to die when EP5 and EP6.

So by this repeatability, I guess before he finds JA in EP15, he will once again want to die.

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3 hours ago, YukawaCattle said:

So maybe the siren sound=electricity in this show.

 

I think "electricity" is not only the symbol for the bad emotion.
It might be the symbol of any feeling which could shock people.

 

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By the way, I think the symbols in this show have two usages.


For the audience, the symbols help us understand the character's emotions.
But for the character in the show, I think when the character sees the symbol,

he/she is thinking about something.

 

@YukawaCattleI think you've finally solved the siren mystery! :thumbsup:

 

The patterns I'm now seeing are:

 

Electricity symbols seem to point to DH's emotions, of him getting rattled and shocked by the events unfolding before him. In the YR-KH conversation you quoted above, it was YR who said "You kind of feel electrified," referring to KH. So we again take YR to represent JA and KH as DH.

 

The show also tend to use it before the event is about to happen, like focusing on the electric hazard symbol before the phone call with Ji An, warning us viewers a huge shock is about to come to DH. And also in the confession scene of JA at the end of ep 10, the appearance of the electric hazard sign before the whole sequence is predicting the huge shock that would befall DH.

 

The siren is used to reflect JA's emotion, that something has stirred inside her. This time, it tends to play the siren right after an event has happened, like what we have seen so far:

- after DH piggybacked halmeoni

- after the hugye gang walked her home

- after she asked for a hug and was rejected

- when DH was standing on the bridge (so I think the siren was a reflection of what JA was feeling, that's why she was rushing to DH)

- after she gave DH the slippers and was walking away 

- after she walked past DH in ep 10 and her heart was stirring as she prepares to deliver her confession spiel

 

In short, the show used the electric hazard symbol as predictive of DH's emotion, while it used the siren sound as reflective of what JA is feeling. 

 

3 hours ago, YukawaCattle said:

So I still think DH in this scene is thinking about die.


One reason is, this script has many repeated elements, and we see DH wanted to die when EP5 and EP6.

So by this repeatability, I guess before he finds JA in EP15, he will once again want to die.

 

I still kinda refused to accept that DH, this late in the show, is still suicidal. :sweatingbullets:

 

So for me, since the electric hazard symbol is used as predictive rather than a reflection of the past or present, the scene is preparing us viewers to expect a huge shock that's about to come to DH, and true enough, the goodbye phone call came. 

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3 hours ago, actionscript said:

@YukawaCattleI think you've finally solved the siren mystery! :thumbsup:

 

The patterns I'm now seeing are:

 

Electricity symbols seem to point to DH's emotions, of him getting rattled and shocked by the events unfolding before him. The show also tend to use it before and during the event is happening, like focusing on the electric shock symbol before the phone call with Ji An, as if warning us viewers a huge shock to DH is about to come. And also in the confession scene of JA, the appearance of the electric shock warning sign is predicting a huge shock is about to come to DH.

 

The siren is used to reflect JA's emotion, that something has stirred inside her. This time, it tends to play the siren right after an event happened, like what we have seen so far:

- after DH piggybacked halmeoni

- after the hugye gang walked her home

- after she asked for a hug and was rejected

- when DH was standing on the bridge (so I think the siren was a reflection of what JA was feeling, that's why she was rushing to DH)

- after she gave DH the slippers and was walking away 

- after she walked past DH and was probably preparing her confession spiel in her head

 

In short, the show used the electric shock symbol as predictive of DH's emotion, while it used the siren sound as reflective of what JA is feeling. 

3 hours ago, actionscript said:

So for me, since the electric shock symbol is used as predictive rather than a reflection of the past (like in the use of sirens for JA), the scene is preparing us viewers to expect a huge shock is about to come to DH, and true enough, the goodbye phone call came. 

 

So you mean this scenes is for DH, not for JA.

 

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It sounds makes sense.

I collect all scenes with this symbol and find that it always shows up when DH is there.
So it sounds makes sense.


So the siren sound is a symbol, and is for JA.

And electric shock symbol is for DH.
You find a symbol here. :thumbsup:

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3 hours ago, actionscript said:

I still kinda refused to accept that DH, this late in the show, is still suicidal. :sweatingbullets:

 

He doesn't cut down the tree of pain until EP16.
He still feels painful when EP15.

 

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So I think it is possible to trigger his problem here.

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Such a scene always tends to present the character's thinking.
For example:

 

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JA wants to kill people 1.

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JA wants to kill people 2.

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JA wants to kill people 3.

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DH wants to die.

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DH afraid of these two guys.

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DH is afraid that people will look at him.

 

 

So in my opinion,  DH is thinking about something here.

What will it be?

 

If he is just viewing the scenery, he could look at the sky, the wall, or the road.
But he doesn't. He looks at two telephone poles very carefully.
JA is not in the direction in which he looks.
If he is missing her, he will look at the wall on the left-hand side.
But he looks on his right-hand side.
It is weird.

 

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Also, if DH has some experience wants to die,

he might already have some mental illness in usual.
I think we use real-world knowledge to understand these characters is make sense.
Recently I am reading a book:

Dialogue: The Art of Verbal Action for Page, Stage, and Screen,

which was written by Robert Mckee.
He said:

 

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So I think a writer will use real-world knowledge to set their characters.
And thus, we analyze these characters with real-world knowledge makes sense.

 

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I guess he has a mental illness problem that is also based on Signal.
In Signal, there is one and only one murderer sympathized by the director KWS and the writer--Kim Jin-woo.


The writer gives the main character Park Hae-young a dialogue to sympathize with him:

 

"Some people might be monsters from birth, but some turn that way because of human.

If... if anybody reached out to him... Kim Jin-woo, and the deceased victims could have been saved."

 

And if we analyze the setting of Kim Jin-woo, we will find that 

 

1. He is a murderer.
2. Because he met a bad adult in childhood, he becomes a bad guy.
3. He has depression.

 

And we know in My Mister, there are three people be saved:


JA, DH, and KI.

 

JA matches 1, KI matches 2.

So I think DH might match 3.

 

KWS's drama always has some connection with his last drama.

For example, Signal is also an extension of Misaeng in some sense.
So I think it makes sense that My Mister is an extension of Signal for some sense.

So I think DH match 3.

 

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In my opinion, this scene is just like the scene DH sings a love song to JA.
So KWS won't shoot this scene so obviously, or people will understand that DH loves JA.

In usual, a man won't feel such sadly just because a child leaves him.
We all know KWS deals with such loveline scenes very light in My Mister.
This is also a reason I guess DH wants to die.

 

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I hope this fact holds for one reason: this will be a loveline scene.
Because DH will directly show his intense emotion to JA to the audience.

 

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In the last post,
I just want to build up a directly loveline evidence.
If someone asks you guys:

 

"Show me PDH love LJA."

 

Then if we have this fact, we can answer:

 

"He wants to die when she leaves him."

 

I think it sounds very persuasive and powerful, lol.

But if it sounds not make sense is ok.
I could understand that.
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By the way, @arctichare's observation in this post is true.
And I want to supplement this observation:


the red one always represents intense emotion, and the blue one represents calm emotion.

 

Following are the examples.

 

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So yes, PDH with a very intense emotion at this moment.

 

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And according to this blue-red theory, the following picture is meaningful.

 

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It means LJA is with an intense emotion, and PDH is with calm emotion now.

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I think this was mentioned way earlier on this thread (not sure where), so I went digging around the interwebs and finally found it again.

 

The original TVN relationship chart for My Mister had a red line between Dong Hoon and Ji An, and between Do Joon Young and Yoon Hee. Then they revised it twice, finally landing on the chart on the right. In the upper left corner in the new poster, the red line meaning "affection" has also disappeared.

 

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This reporter made note of all three versions of the chart, and was slightly confused. :)https://www.dispatch.co.kr/1210564#_DYAD

 

(Google Translate is OK here, I think, though I still didn't understand some of the English.)

 

So...more evidence that TVN and MM more openly marketed the show as having an "affectionate" (romantic) relationship between DH and JA.

 

On 1/5/2022 at 4:56 PM, YukawaCattle said:

the red one always represents intense emotion, and the blue one represents calm emotion.

 

Whoa! Yes! From the GIFs you posted it is totally true! The two people are not colored the same cinematically, showing a contrast in emotionality. Although, we could also say that in the movie theater Dong Hoon is still emotional, and in the phone booth Ji An is still emotional. But in both of those scenes, the blue-colored person is more resolute and knows what they want to do, and the other person is surprised. Great catch.

 

Also @YukawaCattle I've been thinking about your suggestion that Dong Hoon is suicidal again in Ep 14. For me, because he just had his promotional interview, I don't think suicide is on his mind though he is devastated to learn from Jung Hee that Ji An quit her job. Then of course he gets the actual phone call from Ji An that confirms her departure. But I think the fact that he was ready to compete and fight for the Managing Director position would preclude him from thinking of suicide, especially because he did such a good job at his interview.

 

I'm more inclined to think that the electricity signs are a prediction for the jolt/ shock he's about to receive from Ji An's farewell phone call. :( 

 

 

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12 hours ago, the_sweetroad said:

Also @YukawaCattle I've been thinking about your suggestion that Dong Hoon is suicidal again in Ep 14. For me, because he just had his promotional interview, I don't think suicide is on his mind though he is devastated to learn from Jung Hee that Ji An quit her job. Then of course he gets the actual phone call from Ji An that confirms her departure. But I think the fact that he was ready to compete and fight for the Managing Director position would preclude him from thinking of suicide, especially because he did such a good job at his interview.

 

I could understand what you mean.
But mental illness does not work like that.
The working of mental illness is not such a logical thing.
It could be triggered in any situation just when the patient feels sad.

I remember in EP14 he is totally thinking about JA's leaving rather than his interview is good or not.

I also remember in EP13, from the KH and SH's dialogue, the writer tells us DH is sick.
What is that disease?

 

But I remember DH already has experience wants to die in EP5.
This is before he finds YH has an affair.
I think he already has some mental problems in the story begin.

 

12 hours ago, the_sweetroad said:

I'm more inclined to think that the electricity signs are a prediction for the jolt/ shock he's about to receive from Ji An's farewell phone call. :( 

 

The last time we mentioned tree was a symbol of pain before EP16.


But when the character sees the tree in the show, they won't think about "Oh, this is a pain."
The meaning of a symbol is for the audience.
When the character sees them, there will be a thinking in his/her mind.
And such scenes always show us the character is thinking about something, as in the gif I presented before.


So if he is not thinking about dying, then there will be other thinking in his mind.
But just as I mentioned before.
If he wants to see the scenery, he could notice other things.
If he is missing JA, he could look at the wall on the left-hand side, but he looks at the right-hand side.
And we all could see that he is focused on these two telephone poles.

Moreover, he does not just see the telephone pole with this symbol, 

 

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but also this telephone pole without symbol.

 

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What is that?

 

If he is not thinking about dying, there will be other explanations to this scene.


Suppose he is not thinking about something here.
He just looks at these telephone poles unintentionally.
Then this picture couldn't show that DH is looking at JA's neck.

He just looks at JA unintentionally.

 

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Because these two are in the same logic:

 

"When he looks at something, it means he is thinking about something relative things."

 

This holds, then the other one also holds.
I think there is no selective logic in this show.
After all, this show will keep the consistency of logic to make the audience interpret the story.

 

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In my opinion, 
I don't think DH has a mental illness or wants to die is a bad thing for him.

 

First of all, if DH has a mental illness, then this is why JA is important to him
Because JA could alleviate his symptoms when she was by his side.
I think this is one reason why DH so relies on her and doesn't want her to leave him.
Second of all, he will cure himself in EP16 after crying it out, after all.


And remember he only totally changes himself when he finds JA in EP15

 

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and talks with SW in EP16.

 

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Before that, I think every old thing that happened to him once again shows up is make sense.

 

But this is only my opinion.

Not to accept that is ok.

Thanks for discussing this scene with me.

I just present my inference here.

The main idea here is, if this fact holds, then loveline will be solved directly and very obviously.

For this purpose, I even ask a counseling psychologist for this scene.

He agrees with me that DH thinks about dying at this moment.

 

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12 hours ago, the_sweetroad said:

Whoa! Yes! From the GIFs you posted it is totally true! The two people are not colored the same cinematically, showing a contrast in emotionality. Although, we could also say that in the movie theater Dong Hoon is still emotional, and in the phone booth Ji An is still emotional. But in both of those scenes, the blue-colored person is more resolute and knows what they want to do, and the other person is surprised. Great catch.

 

Thanks.

I hope this fact will persuade more people understand JA's leaving is a big deal for DH,

and DH is not so calm like he present on the surface.

 

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12 hours ago, the_sweetroad said:

So...more evidence that TVN and MM more openly marketed the show as having an "affectionate" (romantic) relationship between DH and JA.

 

Yes, the original setting is this.

 

After solving the tree symbol, I think My Mister is designed intentionally to make the audience watch it twice or more.
Because just as @actionscript mentioned before, the OST8 only shows up once in the ending.
Even if the audience already listens OST8 in the story ending, they won't understand what is tree represented until they find some pictures in the before episodes.

In other words, the audience will not understand what tree represents until they re-watch this show again and again.
So if KWS wants to set loveline, I think he will hide its clues somewhere so that the audience will find it out during multiple times re-watch.
Such a design will keep loveline in the script and dodge the dispute when broadcast for the first time.
I think the crew of My Mister and KWS are so genius after I realize this.

In my opinion, My Mister is really a kind of puzzle game.

 

By the way, I read the older posts in this thread and remember some funny disputes.
It seems some Korean audiences wanted Gong Yoo to replace Lee Sun-Kyun, lol.
But Gong Yoo and Lee Sun-kyun only have four years old gap.
Why Gong Yoo is ok but Lee Sun-kyun is not ok, lol.
And I think Lee Sun-kyun is handsome enough, so I couldn't understand why some people said he is ugly before this show was broadcast.
If Lee Sun-kyun is not handsome enough, I think the facial attractiveness of normal distribution in Korea will be rewritten, lol.

Lee Sun-kyun is a very charming guy for me, after all.

 

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By the way, these two scenes are connected.

 

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Both scenes are in EP3, DH's body and JA's are closed enough in the scene, and DH presents his feeling by tightly grabbing something.

 

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I think it is evidence to show JA has sexual attraction to DH.

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