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14 hours ago, riazni said:

 

 

I also wondered on how DH has (un?)consciously chose JA over chairman, ep 3/4 where  chairman invited DH to eat together..DH said he already had dinner plan (while gazing to JA). I was actually amused on how JA steely gazed could be part of DH’s rejection to chairman’s invitation, but my shipper heart could not resist to think that DH has actually wanted to know more about this young lady through a dinner date, hahaa..(I should say that I only approved this slight leaning into emotional affair of DH and JA in early episode because I couldn’t be more confused and upset on how YH could be so calm on having emotional and physical affair with JY :crazy:)

 

 In the same scene, when chairman asks DH for dinner , I must admire PDH guts to blantantly gaze at jian in front of all those people and refuse chairman. It was at this moment that the camera spans over Do Joon Young for a split second where he gives side eyes which kind of was following in the direction PDH looked. He must have guessed it there itself who PDH gave a look to. 

This was after jian had agreed to get PDH fired. So I have a feeling DJY had enough clues like this in beginning to think that PDH was also in some way falling for jian. He was the only character no matter happy pathetic funny he was, to openly tell jian and PDH that they really do love each other . But of course he had to be a prick by bringing in the sleazy part, but nevertheless he did mention what all of us here wanted to scream out. PDH you fool , you are hopelessly in love with jian!!!!! 

 

During my rewatch, I was trying to analyse different kind of relation that PDH and jian might be having , and one of the common one was being just close friends. Now I am not that close minded of a person to think that a man and woman can’t be friends. 

Of course you can be friends with a guy. I have guy friends. We meet and have a chat and we go on with our lives.and if it’s workplace we have lunch, occasional chats and are basically comfortable around each other. With me being married I won’t actively seek them out to tell my family problems, and if I know if anyone of those guy friend loves me like jian loves PDH either I will straighten him( PDH style) or stay away from him making it clear that 

I am not interested. From this point it becomes difficult to be friends with ur guy friend knowing they love you . You get uncomfortable around them fearing that any of your action could lead them on and give a false impression. That’s how real world works!! 

 

But our beloved PDH actively seeks out jian even after knowing how the poor girl feels for him. Either he is foolish or selfish. I think he is foolish selfish man who still doesn’t acknowledge his feelings and doesn’t want to let go of her because she helps him breathe. 

 

And can you guys imagine telling your partner that there is someone in your life who gives you strength and helps you breathe and is of opposite sex and  pretty/handsome one at that too. And expect them to understand your feelings about them... ha... try that in real world. Thanks PD-nim for giving us a passive aggressive  drama which has left us with a big heartache and terrible longing which we are not able to shake off. And PDH how dare you not choose a romantic movie/ drama as your next act with that smexy walk/ talk of yours !! You are our McDreamy and are just wasting your charms doing endless action movies !!! 

 

Pick up something romantic or just produce one for yourself for our damn sake!!! 

 

Now let me get back to real world and let go off my virtual love for PDH and serve breakfast to my real world spouse !!!!! 

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Did anyone else notice that the only time DH smoked was when he found out the truth about the bribe money? It was when JA ignored him bc he turned down her invitation to buy her a meal?

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I have almost forgotten about this observation by @noor1 until I put up this latest post on the fan site today.  Quoting her: 

I have to add one thing: the drama DID use sexual / sensual suggestive innuendos to frame Dong Hoon and Ji-An scenes together. For e.g. the first time she eats in front of him, she picks a long nugget topped with white sauce and puts it in her mouth while he looks on. 

 

Can anyone still see this scene as purely innocent now? :D

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Oh my eyes !!!!!! I can not unsee this now !!!

i would like to get into PDH mind at that exact moment. 

 

What was jacket pulling all about ? Did it mean she was hot because of what she ate just now which in turn can mean other kind of hot if you look it in sexual way !! 

 

And during their initial two meals DH just stares at her till she completes the meal. Geez... PDH let her have meal in peace without your curious glare piercing right through her.

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1 hour ago, useranon2244 said:

Did anyone else notice that the only time DH smoked was when he found out the truth about the bribe money? It was when JA ignored him bc he turned down her invitation to buy her a meal?

 

Welcome @useranon2244!  You're right that this seems to be the only time that he actually does inhale (exhale).  There are a few other scenes where he thinks of smoking, or just holds the cigarette in his hand but never smokes it.  But here, he is either letting himself enjoy some pleasure or the stress has finally gotten the better of him.

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6 hours ago, sadiesmith said:

I have almost forgotten about this observation by @noor1 until I put up this latest post on the fan site today.  Quoting her: 

I have to add one thing: the drama DID use sexual / sensual suggestive innuendos to frame Dong Hoon and Ji-An scenes together. For e.g. the first time she eats in front of him, she picks a long nugget topped with white sauce and puts it in her mouth while he looks on. 

 

Wow, I never even thought about that.

My take for that scene is always innocent, "The food looks delicious" and "Poor Ji An, she rarely eat this much of food..."

Thanks, for putting my mind in the gutter :sweatingbullets:

Now, I can't watch that scene without giggling like a teenager :lol:

 

From that dinner scene, I was amused by this part

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It was very rude and I love it!

 

I think it shows that Ji An had the upper hand because she knows his secret. And she kind of revels in having a power over these older more powerful men (PDH and DJY), because she's been powerless most of her life...

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@sadiesmith OMG that is some hot stuff. Thanks for clarifying the suggestive part. :lol:

 

Speaking of hot stuff, check out @justamom's fanfic update. My pervy mind can totally imagine them.

 

@ccl82 Odiyaaa? I've compiled Ahjussi's longing looks, like you suggested sometime back.

 

Here are two of my favorites:

 

Their sexiness kills me

 

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Dong Hoon’s had it with subtle stares. Cue blatant stares.

 

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More eye-candy: https://givemeslippers.wordpress.com/2018/07/24/gif-ahjussis-longing-looks/

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4 hours ago, h2ogirl said:

 

@ccl82 Odiyaaa? I've compiled Ahjussi's longing looks, like you suggested sometime back.

 

Here are two of my favorites:

 

Their sexiness kills me

 

Dong Hoon’s had it with subtle stares. Cue blatant stares.

More eye-candy: https://givemeslippers.wordpress.com/2018/07/24/gif-ahjussis-longing-looks/

 

@h2ogirl, I am ruined.  Couldn't stop grinning like a loon all morning.  platonic: you're doing it wrong indeed!

 

And that long stare without blinking totally reminded me of this tag: also someone please tell Park Dong Hoon that humans usually BLINK

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These posts are so amusing :lol: and it’s amusing that we still manage to find these tiny details here and there when it seemed like everything’s been dissected already. Thank you for feeding my MA longing. I don’t know what to say about that not so innocent tempura analysis :sweatingbullets:. I guess Ill pretend I havent seen that haha. 

 

And a kind request if anyone can oblige, I remember @justamom collected the best links to DC inside posts, hopefully that could all get translated one day and be put on the fansite please. Im really interested to read them with the proper translation. Thank you :wub:

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During the episodes initial airing, someone somewhere complained about the lack of continuity in the Dong Hoon-Yoon Hee confrontation ruining the whole impact of that emotional scene.  I now firmly believe that the switching back and forth between the morning events to the confrontation the night before serves a much deeper purpose than just creative editing.

 

Dong Hoon asks Yoon Hee how she could even think to cheat with Joon Young.  Let’s say he was lacking, even when he tried his best, even if she is so unhappy she wants a divorce, why does it have to be with Joon Young?

 

Cut to the scene at Jung Hee’s where he has to wash the breakfast dishes.  Never mind that everyone sees his bruised fingers yet not offers to take over, but to add insult to injury, Jung Hee keeps picking at the "incorrect" way he is doing it, nagging him this way and that, and completely frustrates him.

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Jung Hee: No! Your mom will scold me.  (they do things to appease Omma)

 

Poor Dong Hoon is reminded that his effort is never enough, because this next scene is his telling Yoon Hee that he was afraid she would get mad at him for keeping a messy house, so he always did the laundry and vacuumed the floor before she got home.  But she would come home, retreated to her office, and he wouldn’t even dare turn up the TV volume thinking that she was busy with work.

 

Back to the morning scene with his brothers and the soccer gang.  Jae Chul complains that Sang Hoon is not taking good care of his cleaning van, which was his “baby once.”  

 

Sang Hoon: I treat that car 10 times better than you did.  You just parked him wherever, didn’t you? Well, I park him next to a pretty car every night. ‘Have fun.  Don’t do anything foolish.’ If you park him next to a pretty car, he is different the next morning.

 

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As soon as you turn on the ignition, brrrrmmmm…. He’s all hyped up. (that smirk on DH's face ...)

Ki Hoon: Is that car male?

Sang Hoon: Does it look like a female.  Didn’t you even know its gender? Can’t you feel its masculine nature?

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THAT car’s male.  I never park him next to cars like that.  He gets discouraged.”

 

Is anyone still thinking they are only talking about detergent and cars?  What Sang Hoon says about the van might as well apply to Dong Hoon. His new owner (Ji An?) is treating him 10 times better than his own wife, who has in many ways stripped him off his masculinity.  DH is now comparing himself to Joon Young, that black car that screams macho to the max. Yet Sang Hoon does say put him next to a “pretty car (Ji An)” and he is (ehem…) different the next morning.

 

We know what follows next.  Dong Hoon and Yoon Hee talk about the different things she expects him to be to her, how she hates this neighborhood and his circle of friends.  The camera shows us his bonding with his soccer gang. Inevitably the talk leads to their not knowing how to end this thing they have kept for 20 years.  Cue Ji An at the sidewalk as if to say she is the way out of his mess. @justamom already elaborated on this before.  

 

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I skipped over a few things, but really, someone can write a whole essay on the juxtaposition of these scenes.  

 

 

 

 

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Damn  this drama is made up of so many layers. Few of the recent observations, I couldn’t even figure them

out even if I watched thm multiple times. I guess we can write a thesis on this drama. 

I love how fine PDH looks suited up once he becomes director. His whole form 

gets changed once he got rid of that bag. 

 

Do do you guys know if there are any fanfic in Korean ? I don’t mind translating them and reading them for my pleasure since I am always more hungry for DOng Hoon awesomeness !!! 

 

And how how has been the  response in Japan ? 

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On 7/24/2018 at 7:51 AM, h2ogirl said:

Wow, this is such an honor. I seriously think you're one of THE wisest posters here.

 

Whaat. This coming from someone who consistently has some of the most comprehensive and well-researched posts on this forum. Aww I'm blushing.

 

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I'm not sure I can even acknowledge @sadiesmith's restaurant post. You guys are too wild. :ph34r:

 

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I have two questions for our MA detectives:

 

  1. In this Ep 14 scene, starting at ~ 0:22, what's the song playing in the background? Please post the lyrics here if you figure it out. I can't help but think this has some significance after all the mindblowing commentary on Dong Hoon & Yoon Hee's soundtrack, Joon Young & Yoon Hee's soundtrack and Dong Hoon's Yearning to be Free.
     

     
  2. At Halmeoni's funeral, why does Choon Dae (the custodian guardian) hesitate to hug / comfort Ji An (at the 0:32 mark)? I still can't figure it out after multiple rewatches.
     

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For future reference / rewatches, here are the episode-by-episode playlists of all the official tvN clips for MA, courtesy of uri @miracle525 

 

 

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1 hour ago, h2ogirl said:

I have two questions for our MA detectives:

 

  1. In this Ep 14 scene, starting at ~ 0:22, what's the song playing in the background? Please post the lyrics here if you figure it out. I can't help but think this has some significance after all the mindblowing commentary on Dong Hoon & Yoon Hee's soundtrack, Joon Young & Yoon Hee's soundtrack and Dong Hoon's Yearning to be Free.

    At Halmeoni's funeral, why does Choon Dae (the custodian guardian) hesitate to hug / comfort Ji An (at the 0:32 mark)? I still can't figure it out after multiple rewatches.

 

For future reference / rewatches, here are the episode-by-episode playlists of all the official tvN clips for MA, courtesy of uri @miracle525 

 

 

Did you try using Shazam?  That's the app @africandramalover uses frequently to identify a mystery tune.  I can't even make out if that song is in English or Korean.

 

As for why Choon Dae appears to hesitate, I think he sees that JA is not so alone now.  He probably feels watchful and responsible for her all these years, but now she's got a new father-figure/boyfriend/boss or whatever that guy DH is to her taking his place, and he feels relieved.  He is not hesitating as much as just wanting to take it all in.  That's why he surveys the whole room, and keeps coming back to DH.

 

Here's another person's take on Choon Dae that never fails to make me laugh:

http://parkdonghoons.tumblr.com/tagged/choon-dae

 

@arctichare, one more for you, darling:

https://anditendshowyoudexpect.tumblr.com/tagged/all-work-and-no-play-makes-a-mind-stray

 

 

 

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10 hours ago, h2ogirl said:

I have two questions for our MA detectives:

 

  1. In this Ep 14 scene, starting at ~ 0:22, what's the song playing in the background? Please post the lyrics here if you figure it out. I can't help but think this has some significance after all the mindblowing commentary on Dong Hoon & Yoon Hee's soundtrack, Joon Young & Yoon Hee's soundtrack and Dong Hoon's Yearning to be Free.

     
  2. At Halmeoni's funeral, why does Choon Dae (the custodian guardian) hesitate to hug / comfort Ji An (at the 0:32 mark)? I still can't figure it out after multiple rewatches.
     

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For future reference / rewatches, here are the episode-by-episode playlists of all the official tvN clips for MA, courtesy of uri @miracle525 

 

 

hallo! I'm a lurker for quite awhile...

with my incredible hearings I've figured what the song was....it's Janis Ian - at seventeen

the song lyric fits really well for this series' theme, specially for DH, JH & JA (love) life. reading the song lyric, it make me think and have more understanding of why DH married YH and why his life was so pitiful at this point.

 

I'm still mad at people comments at dramabeans, blamming DH's Mom for YH unhappiness and feeling outcasted from the Hoogye neighbourhood (watching this series from my east asian's social norms POV, YH annoyed me so much)

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46 minutes ago, jujurose said:

hallo! I'm a lurker for quite awhile...

with my incredible hearings I've figured what the song was....it's Janis Ian - at seventeen

the song lyric fits really well for this series' theme, specially for DH, JH & JA (love) life. reading the song lyric, it make me think and have more understanding of why DH married YH and why his life was so pitiful at this point.

 

I'm still mad at people comments at dramabeans, blamming DH's Mom for YH unhappiness and feeling outcasted from the Hoogye neighbourhood (watching this series from my east asian's social norms POV, YH annoyed me so much)

 

 

Welcome!! And thank you! This is such a beautiful song.

 

 

I actually thought the lyrics seemed more fitting for Ji An, who’s felt unwanted most of her life:

 

At Seventeen
 
I learned the truth at seventeen
That love was meant for beauty queens
And high school girls with clear skinned smiles
Who married young and then retired
 
The valentines I never knew
The Friday night charades of youth
Were spent on one more beautiful
At seventeen I learned the truth
 
And those of us with ravaged faces
Lacking in the social graces
Desperately remained at home
Inventing lovers on the phone
 
Who called to say "come dance with me"
And murmured vague obscenities
It isn't all it seems at seventeen
A brown eyed girl in hand me downs
 
Whose name I never could pronounce
Said: "pity please the ones who serve
They only get what they deserve"
The rich relationed hometown queen
 
Marries into what she needs
With a guarantee of company
And haven for the elderly 
So remember those who win the game
 
Lose the love they sought to gain
In debitures of quality and dubious integrity
Their small-town eyes will gape at you
In dull surprise when payment due
 
Exceeds accounts received at seventeen
To those of us who knew the pain
Of valentines that never came

And those whose names were never called
When choosing sides for basketball
It was long ago and far away
The world was younger than today
When dreams were all they gave for free
 
To ugly duckling girls like me...
We all play the game, and when we dare
We cheat ourselves at solitaire
Inventing lovers on the phone
Repenting other lives unknown
That call and say: "come on, dance with me"
And murmur vague obscenities
At ugly girls like me, at seventeen
 
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Just in case the tweet gets deleted etc.  Plus the naver link
 
"Best TV dramas of the first half of the year: Online survey company PMI asked 5,000 men and women in their 20s and 50s
 
1. Prison Playbook (23.7%)
2. Something in the Rain (21.7%)
3. Why Secretary Kim (20.7%)
4. Golden Life (18.5%)
5. My Mister (17.3%)
 
"
 

 

 

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2 hours ago, mylovelystar said:
Just in case the tweets gets deleted etc.  Plus the naver link

 

You’re kidding! Golden life was sh—(expletive which will not be uttered). It started out well then descended into makjang melo. 

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@justamom

 

Allkpop has a writeup on the same survey but only listed the top 3 dramas TT

 

Excerpt:

 

"Online research platform PMI carried out a survey in partnership with survey website Tillion, in order to see which actor, actress, idol group, and drama received the most love from netizens in the first half of 2018!

 

Approximately 5,000 males and females from their 20s through their 50s participated in the survey."

 

https://www.allkpop.com/article/2018/07/netizens-vote-for-their-favorite-actor-actress-idol-group-drama-for-the-first-half-of-2018

 

Off topic: since you are a fan of Jang Ki Yong, here's casting news just in case you missed it:

 

https://www.soompi.com/2018/07/25/jang-ki-yong-kang-ye-won-ma-dong-seok-star-bad-guys-movie/

 

 

 

Just in case the tweet gets deleted etc.  Plus the naver link as original source:

 

"Best actresses of the first half of the year: Online survey with 5,000 men and women from 20s to 50s

 

1. Son Ye Jin

2. Jung Yumi

3. Kim Namjoo

4. Lee Jieun (IU)

 

https://m.entertain.naver.com/read?oid=117&aid=0003083455

"

 

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Hello everyone!  I just wanted to drop by and see if anyone's still here. Lo and behold! New analysis posts are coming in!  Lots to read over the weekend. :)

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