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6 minutes ago, mylovelystar said:

Just putting here for posterity 

 

:glasses:

 

 

This was tweeted by instiz today and getting lots of RT

 

What is that scene? Is this where they plan to have their 2 weeks reunion? Hopefully someone will take lots of pictures and post them. 

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@h2ogirl I like your further analysis of soulmate and your presentation of proof that DH and JA are indeed soulmates. How can they be anything else? Except maybe Seoulmates too! (I know tired old joke). I'm looking forward to more analysis of the traffic signals though. It was so fascinating when someone pointed out the Caution: Electricity sign, then the train crossing red light contrasted to the green light over DH's shoulder at the end. Now all these other clues with the traffic lights are popping up. Besides all the ads for products I wonder what other clues/Easter eggs the writer or PD have hidden/planted that we have yet to discover! Keep analyzing guys. It only brings more proof that DH and JA are meant to be together and will be together not only in our minds and eyes but also in the writer's/PD's minds.

 

@justamom is your fanfic titled 'Contact'? I have tried to read more fanfic now that I have caught up with this thread. I think I clicked on the link that someone posted that led to your fanfic but I want to be sure that this is yours. I've read the first two chapters so far and I have enjoyed it very much. It is progressing like I have been hoping. Wishful thinking on my part but it would be great if we could convince the actors to get together and film this. If not you should gather fill-in actors and film this and with some CG work it could look like our beloved actors/actresses. Or it could be animated. I need this to be on-screen so I can be fully satisfied!

Going to read the other chapters tomorrow. Got to get to bed now. (oh, if your fanfic is another title please let me know. Thanks.)

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To our Korean language specialists, sorry for adding these few links to your never-ending list lol. 

http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&no=50126&page=1&search_pos=&s_type=search_all&s_keyword=5화에서

From the pictures and the post, it seems like something about how ki hoon always had an idea that Ji An has preoccupied dong hoon's mind for quite some time. 

 

The below 3 comes from the same writer. 

https://m.blog.naver.com/tavola/221288813855

Don't know what this post is about but it's quite a long one, and I'm just genuinely interested. :D

https://m.blog.naver.com/tavola/221282920761

It seems to be similar to the one @rellea posted regarding the building's construction and strength effect, only that the writer finds a similarity between ep 6 and ep 16. Apparently, it was on ep 6 that dong hoon was shocked after discovering yoon hee's affair and he was watching something on tv like he did on ep 16.

https://m.blog.naver.com/tavola/221282930738

On dong hoon. Just sharing in case it's anything interesting.

 

 

 

 

Was taking a look at MDL and I like what the writer had to say here adding more to the already extensive analysis on Ji An's last words posted on this place.

 

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Y0kwWt.jpg Snowflake:

Thanks for this thread. xD

There are many questions but I want to know what's with the second 'Yes' of Ji An in the end? 

Hi Snowflake. Well, from my perspective, the first yes it's because the time that she spent alone allowed her to find herself. But the second, a more vehement one, is that now, that she found him again, she will become more herself than she already was. Like... he was the missing piece.
Dong Hoon was the first person to know her deep inside. So when she needed to leave him, and start a new life she did it but she wasn't completely happy about it, and I believe that she left a part of herself with him. So the first one she was thinking about herself (bc of the meaning of her name as well) and she made a pause, remembering him, and then she said the second one like: yes, now I'm complete.

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16 hours ago, rellea said:

 

LMAOO Time to change my name, face, and drop off the planet. This is hilarious.

 

I don't have time the translate these right now, but these are some of the post I was thinking about translating if anyone else has the time. If not, I'll try to get to them once I'm free.

http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&no=53468&page=5

http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&no=54017&page=1

http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&no=53799&page=1&search_pos=&s_type=search_all&s_keyword=5화에서

 

 

I thought the first essay, on love, was so beautifully written.

 

Here's my attempt at translating it:

 

We fall in love because of our flaws. When I know your flaws, and you know mine, and what we know becomes connected, your flaws become my pain and mine become yours, it becomes an invaluable, precious love between two people. The kind of love that will never, ever end and can never be severed. That is Dong Hoon and Ji An's love. This love will most naturally lead one to desire contact with the other person's body. But this is very different from normal sexual desires. Yes, normal people desire physical contact for various reasons. But why is it not so easy for us to agree to physical contact with the one we love?

 

If we look at Dong Hoon's misconception of love, he seems to think that his love for Ji An stems from how she helps him overcomes his shortcomings. Ji An, to him, is the only person who can make up for his shortcomings and understand his suffering. Dong Hoon plays the same role for Ji An, but more than helping her overcome her shortcomings, the one who brings personal strength to overcome herself is Ji An. And that makes Dong Hoon eternally grateful towards her. When Dong Hoon extends his hand to her at the end and holds her hand tightly, that could very well be the first time that he faces Ji An and her flaws and exposes his vulnerability to her. Rather than saying it is for Ji An, it is a reflex action stemming from his own hunger (desire). And in Ji An's expression while holding his hand we seem to see a shy smile evading that desire.

 

Undeniably, both have come to stand up on their own. Undeniably, both have also come back to each other, never to part again. Will they get married? That's unknown. Is marriage the greatest expression of love?

 

@rellea not sure I understood everything correctly especially in the 2nd para so please do correct if I made any mistakes!

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@justamom,awww, such beautiful poetic translation, thanks so much:blush:

Wonder why the dc inside shipp them hard just after drama ended, would it good when from start they sense what all soompier felt right?

Anyways is better late than non :)

 

Self complishment hug...

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Initiative printed handshake

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Blushing Ahjussi:tongue:

The girl with sad longing eyes invite her to date...

Dong honaa does your heart beaten so fast.

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He was just like 18 years old boy in love:glasses: a waiting his first date.

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Spoiler

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This was another one I liked.

 

http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&no=54125&page=1

 

What if Dong Hoon and Ji An switched roles at the cafe? This poster thinks the handshake would most likely not have happened.

 

Dong Hoon would have observed her from a distance and thought, how happy she looks. Please continue to be happy. Then feel sad for himself while walking away :lol:

 

@popai5 yes! Thank you for reading. I am happy to write the script if someone else can put together the rest of it!

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3 hours ago, justamom said:

 

I thought the first essay, on love, was so beautifully written.

 

Here's my attempt at translating it:

 

We fall in love because of our flaws. When I know your flaws, and you know mine, and what we know becomes connected, your flaws become my pain and mine become yours, it becomes an invaluable, precious love between two people. The kind of love that will never, ever end and can never be severed. That is Dong Hoon and Ji An's love. This love will most naturally lead one to desire contact with the other person's body. But this is very different from normal sexual desires. Yes, normal people desire physical contact for various reasons. But why is it not so easy for us to agree to physical contact with the one we love?

 

If we look at Dong Hoon's misconception of love, he seems to think that his love for Ji An stems from how she helps him overcomes his shortcomings. Ji An, to him, is the only person who can make up for his shortcomings and understand his suffering. Dong Hoon plays the same role for Ji An, but more than helping her overcome her shortcomings, the one who brings personal strength to overcome herself is Ji An. And that makes Dong Hoon eternally grateful towards her. When Dong Hoon extends his hand to her at the end and holds her hand tightly, that could very well be the first time that he faces Ji An and her flaws and exposes his vulnerability to her. Rather than saying it is for Ji An, it is a reflex action stemming from his own hunger (desire). And in Ji An's expression while holding his hand we seem to see a shy smile evading that desire.

 

Undeniably, both have come to stand up on their own. Undeniably, both have also come back to each other, never to part again. Will they get married? That's unknown. Is marriage the greatest expression of love?

 

@rellea not sure I understood everything correctly especially in the 2nd para so please do correct if I made any mistakes!

Please keep translating these. It’s nice to know their perspective are similar to ours. Im hoping the MA cast will do a special episode:tongue:

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53 minutes ago, ccl82 said:

What he's been up to. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Apparently that was taken before their final episode dinner (same clothes)

 

This one is at a Kia Tigers baseball game:

 

 

Am eagerly awaiting photo of tonight’s party!

 

@nearsea I saw those! They are really long! That's what I was referring to when I said scroll on...and on....and on... Don't think I can translate the whole thing but will see if I can summarise!

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1 hour ago, justamom said:

Apparently that was taken before their final episode dinner (same clothes)

 

This one is at a Kia Tigers baseball game:

 

Am eagerly awaiting photo of tonight’s party!

 

@nearsea I saw those! They are really long! That's what I was referring to when I said scroll on...and on....and on... Don't think I can translate the whole thing but will see if I can summarise!

 

The baseball picture was from two years ago.  LSK is a fan of KIA Tigers.  There has been ZERO news on his activities since the conclusion of MA.  I guess he's been occupied with starting his new film.  Will stalk instagram for glimpses of their reunion party.

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5 hours ago, justamom said:

 

I thought the first essay, on love, was so beautifully written.

 

Here's my attempt at translating it:

 

We fall in love because of our flaws. When I know your flaws, and you know mine, and what we know becomes connected, your flaws become my pain and mine become yours, it becomes an invaluable, precious love between two people. The kind of love that will never, ever end and can never be severed. That is Dong Hoon and Ji An's love. This love will most naturally lead one to desire contact with the other person's body. But this is very different from normal sexual desires. Yes, normal people desire physical contact for various reasons. But why is it not so easy for us to agree to physical contact with the one we love?

 

If we look at Dong Hoon's misconception of love, he seems to think that his love for Ji An stems from how she helps him overcomes his shortcomings. Ji An, to him, is the only person who can make up for his shortcomings and understand his suffering. Dong Hoon plays the same role for Ji An, but more than helping her overcome her shortcomings, the one who brings personal strength to overcome herself is Ji An. And that makes Dong Hoon eternally grateful towards her. When Dong Hoon extends his hand to her at the end and holds her hand tightly, that could very well be the first time that he faces Ji An and her flaws and exposes his vulnerability to her. Rather than saying it is for Ji An, it is a reflex action stemming from his own hunger (desire). And in Ji An's expression while holding his hand we seem to see a shy smile evading that desire.

 

Undeniably, both have come to stand up on their own. Undeniably, both have also come back to each other, never to part again. Will they get married? That's unknown. Is marriage the greatest expression of love?

 

@rellea not sure I understood everything correctly especially in the 2nd para so please do correct if I made any mistakes!

 

 

You are doing a public service by translating all these posts I am telling you. If you guys need any help with setting up the new site, I would be happy to help in any way. 

And what a  beautiful, awfully romantic post. I didn't fully understand the highlighted line but I think the gist was never in all these episodes Dong Hoon initiated anything, it was Ji An who asked for a kiss, bought a slipper for him, which he ignored, it was ji an who asked if he wanted a hug and then he said he was okay without it, and it was always him who wanted to leave first, while leaving halmony in the care center, he was the one running for the bus, as if he didn't want to be alone with her for a longer time. So when on the last episode he asked for a handshake that was a big deal. [He was the one who wanted to stay a bit longer when previously it was always him who would leave first.] In the writer's words, 'it is a reflex action stemming from his own hunger (desire)', wow. As if he is giving her a green signal, he is giving away some of his own emotions, he is saying, she matters, her contributions to his life matters. So Ji An who thought staying in the neighborhood would be a wrong idea since the one for whom she would always take a walk in the neighborhood isn't interested in her. So wasn't it weird that she was immediately going back when her colleagues were calling her? I just realized that she would go back without saying anything if dong hoon didn't initiate that handshake right? So seeing that he cares, she mentions about meeting again. That was like the first ever move from the stoic/hermit park dong hoon lol.

 

And in Ji An's expression while holding his hand we seem to see a shy smile evading that desire. - a shout out to the original writer and to @justamom for the beautiful translation. <3

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My rewatch has progressed to E13. Regarding the oft-quoted OhmyStar article, I strongly disagree about the drama's supposed portrayal of Yoon Hee – Cheating Wife – as supremely bad (and of Dong Hoon, as supremely good.) Even before Dong Hoon learns about the adultery, there is ample evidence of the insensitive way he treats his wife, of how he essentially has given up on the marriage.

 

I think I have said this before... My explanation for the breakdown of their relationship is the decision to send the son off to school and the resulting emptiness of the "new" family home – which leads to Dong Hoon returning to his "old" home. But I admit, this is never spelled out in the drama. Is it just my non-Korean imagination? Does this point ever come up in the DC Inside discussion? What little Korean I know is not enough to find out for myself...

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I don't know how the Korean fans do it...night after night of superb analysis and profound essays on the show! I found this gem tonight

 

It is so long I won't even attempt to translate it but maybe @rellea or @chickfactor can help summarise because some of it is beyond me!

 

"So we say Park Dong Hoon likes Lee Ji An"

http://gall.dcinside.com/board/view/?id=mymister&no=54343&page=1

 

Some of the things mentioned:

- Yeon Hee's shame and realisation that Ji An and her cannot share Park Dong Hoon

- The scene of Dong Hoon dropping Ji An off with his wife at the police station. For him, he's avoiding his feelings for Ji An by "dumping" her with his wife. But look at how the camera pans out to show him watching Ji An as she goes in, and the troubled expression on his face --> anyone have a gif for this?

- Rebuts the essay that @sadiesmith shared earlier about Dong Hoon crying over Ji An's absence. No, he was crying about how pathetic his life is (what I said!!)

- So we say Park Dong Hoon likes Lee Ji An. How about the opposite case? It's way too easy to argue. There's not even any point to arguing. Because Park Dong Hoon is the kind of man who will never say "I like you" even till the very end. He can't say it, to the extent that (hearing it) made him hit someone in the back of the head.

 

 

2 hours ago, nearsea said:

You are doing a public service by translating all these posts I am telling you. If you guys need any help with setting up the new site, I would be happy to help in any way. 

 

I will PM you! @h2ogirl has also offered her help and I will be quite busy from next week onwards so your offer is much appreciated! I actually just activated a wordpress and Gmail account so let's take this forward! @sadiesmith I am assuming you are in. Will need ideas on 

- how to organise content @tiger457_stv any ideas for a content tree? 

- help pick and select the best posts

- design and wordpress formatting help

 

I also just saw a post on DC Inside that the pre order for the Director's Cut is up till 6th June and -gasp- is likely to include the original script for those who order and pay by then @africandramalover did you hear that?? That alone is worth the price for me....apparently it will also include deleted scenes!

 

Now let me figure out how to order....has anyone done this before??

 

@mylovelystar I can't find the original post on the Director's Cut, can you help?

 

Edit: so I just realized I saw the price wrongly. It’s USD$230. What???? Why is it so expensive??

 

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What do you guys think about Ji-An liking DH? She’s said it a lot in the show, others even said it - Joon Young, Jung Hee, Yoon Hee. Do you think she’s meant it in a platonic way? Like just genuinely liking a person for who they are. 

 

Although by the end, I think JA’s feelings developed romantically - seeing the way he was looking at DH. Ive just thought about this because of a recent comment Ive seen in dramabeans. @justamom Id love your opinion :).

 

Im really enjoying these translations so please keep them coming. Two weeks on and it seems Im still not over this drama.  

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Thank you for giving me my daily fix.  I can't seem to watch  anything else but MY MISTER.  I love all the postings here.  I wonder how long we can keep this up.  Thank you!!!

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This has nothing to do with My Ahjussi but I'll insert something about grandma being deaf so you won't boo me off for posting this.

 

So, on some dramas we get a person who has some kind of disease that affects one of the senses. In this case grandma was deaf. We don't know how she became deaf. If she was born that way. If some disease caused the deafness. Or maybe an accident or illness or even a beating by KI's father could have caused it. I think the showcasing of the sign language was great and JA being able to have the speakers on and listen to DH without grandma knowing was also an interesting. I don't know if JA would have listened to DH at home even with headphones on if grandma could hear. (There was a Jdorama that was very popular where the main female character was using sign language. The title had 'twinkling stars' or '1000 stars' in it. It even had a sequel).

 

You could see the emotion of concern and caring whenever grandma signed to JA. And you could see the frustration, fatigue but also love and caring when JA signed to grandma. And that unforgettable scene when JA told grandma that she was so glad/happy to have someone like DH in her life. The signing, speaking, crying and facial expressions. Wow.

 

So, now to the off topic part of this post. This is particularly for @justamom and @africandramalover (I know @justamom is checking in but @africandramalover are you still reading?) I am an eyecare provider so I hate it when some characters are told that they have a certain eye disease that can be treated when in reality with the disease they have nothing can be done to save or regain vision. Or when someone is told that their vision can't be saved when a simple procedure can actually save their sight. So, if you decide that one of your characters will have an eye problem that will or won't be sight threatening I am offering my knowledge so that you get things right. I'll be your script consultant for all eye related matters.

 

I was surprised that only KH had glasses in the family. YH used readers sometimes. The chairman had glasses that didn't fit right. And the other director, the slimy one (I don't know his name) he probably needed them since he worked so hard looking up dirt on everybody.

 

Okay, now back to regular programming. Sorry for the off-topic post. More MA matters please.

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16 hours ago, justamom said:

 

I thought the first essay, on love, was so beautifully written.

 

Here's my attempt at translating it:

 

We fall in love because of our flaws. When I know your flaws, and you know mine, and what we know becomes connected, your flaws become my pain and mine become yours, it becomes an invaluable, precious love between two people. The kind of love that will never, ever end and can never be severed. That is Dong Hoon and Ji An's love. This love will most naturally lead one to desire contact with the other person's body. But this is very different from normal sexual desires. Yes, normal people desire physical contact for various reasons. But why is it not so easy for us to agree to physical contact with the one we love?

 

If we look at Dong Hoon's misconception of love, he seems to think that his love for Ji An stems from how she helps him overcomes his shortcomings. Ji An, to him, is the only person who can make up for his shortcomings and understand his suffering. Dong Hoon plays the same role for Ji An, but more than helping her overcome her shortcomings, the one who brings personal strength to overcome herself is Ji An. And that makes Dong Hoon eternally grateful towards her. When Dong Hoon extends his hand to her at the end and holds her hand tightly, that could very well be the first time that he faces Ji An and her flaws and exposes his vulnerability to her. Rather than saying it is for Ji An, it is a reflex action stemming from his own hunger (desire). And in Ji An's expression while holding his hand we seem to see a shy smile evading that desire.

 

Undeniably, both have come to stand up on their own. Undeniably, both have also come back to each other, never to part again. Will they get married? That's unknown. Is marriage the greatest expression of love?

 

@rellea not sure I understood everything correctly especially in the 2nd para so please do correct if I made any mistakes!

 

My heart went into serious withdrawal mode again after reading this piece:cry:.  I am never getting off on how much I missed My Ajusshi. Thank you for translating @justamom. How come the DC folks never openly supported this duo during the broadcast of My Ajusshi?  @mujay is right, it would have been nice if the Soompiers would have known they also had the same thoughts. Surely people outside from Soompie loved to ridicule us for being "shippers" but I guess the final episode really made the DC folks changed their mind about the love story of Jian and Dong Hoon. 

 

That handshake was pure electricity with the camera zooming. A beginning of something new. DH's boyish smile and Jian's shyness but determination to see him again. It was enough for me to read between the lines that their love was meant to be and would continue to thrive because they had been through the hardest struggles together, so everything else was a piece of cake after the time jump. Those two will eventually live a happy life together. There is no other option for them except each other. No other woman can stir fire into DH's heart like Jian, and no other man can make Jian care or even make her calm down like DH. 

 

 Is marriage the greatest expression of love? It does not matter. People that wants to get married there is nothing wrong with it. But in my opinion, two people don't need to sign a piece of paper just to show their commitment and love for each other. Those marital vows will not prevent a person from lying, cheating, or leave their spouse. DH and Jian already have a strong internal force, a solid foundation built on loyalty, trust, love, and sharing each other's pain. A solid foundation that can withstand the harsh external force.  

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1 hour ago, timidjock0819 said:

Surely people outside from Soompie loved to ridicule us for being "shippers" but I guess the final episode really made the DC folks changed their mind about the love story of Jian and Dong Hoon. 

 

That handshake was pure electricity with the camera zooming. A beginning of something new. DH's boyish smile and Jian's shyness but determination to see him again. It was enough for me to read between the lines that their love was meant to be and would continue to thrive because they had been through the hardest struggles together, so everything else was a piece of cake after the time jump. Those two will eventually live a happy life together. There is no other option for them except each other. No other woman can stir fire into DH's heart like Jian, and no other man can make Jian care or even make her calm down like DH. 

Their bond is really something special. When DH kept saying that JA should call him when her grandmother dies, I assumed he meant he would just come to the funeral. I had no idea he meant he would be there for her, take care of all the stressful details, be her pillar when grief has broken her down and she can’t function. It was so unbelievably touching, and it just blew me away. They say you find out who really loves you and cares about you in times of great need and tragedy, and he definitely loves and cares for her.

 

Besides the wonderfully warm handshake between them, I really liked that they each looked back at each other while they were walking away from each other. When two people decide to break up or never see each other again, they tell themselves to not look back when they walk away from each other. That’s because they have to move on and forget the past. No regrets, and no more thinking about that person or what might have been. But DH and JA both looked back. They are definitely seeing each other again.

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I started my re-watch in earnest last night.  A few things I noticed in first episode and beginning part of second episode:

 

1. After the scene at Sang Hoon's daughter's wedding, after his mom left the wedding hall, DH took out his cell phone, checked his message, and looked upset.  The scene immediately changed to Yoen Hee and Joon Young hugging by the water (very beautifully shot).  His wife's choosing to be away on such an important family event seemed to really bother him, and so it kind of explained the next scene at the kitchen where he only grunted a few words when she asked him how the party was.

 

2. I don't think I ever knew who reported the bribe.  Does anyone know who gave the tip?

 

3. When DH was dragged into the elevator by the two men in suits, that was the first time THE BREATH made its appearance.  Someone upstairs already pointed this out, but his bears repeating.

 

4. The epilogue of episode 1 shows Ki Hoon and Sang Hoon discussing their ajusshi town.  Sang Hoon said something about the ajusshi in his town won't be able to run away with women because he would kill them.  Not to worry bro, Dong Hoon would never leave that town even after he found a girl.  Then SH went on to say a few words about how everything would be easy to understand, that when you eat ramen, it just means you're eating ramen.  Then Ki Hun replied of course it just meant eating ramen, what else could it mean?  Of course we now know eating could mean a lot more than just eating.

 

4.  As excellent as IU was, there were early parts where her greenness showed.  An obvious one was right after she brought the bribe money to Kwang Il's office.  When she left the loan office, at the top of the stairs, just before she looked down at the cars, her expressions were rather blank and I had no idea what she was thinking until people explained that she got concerned because the loan sharks figured out it was stolen money.  

 

That's all for now.

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