bebebisous33 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 @rembrandtz_5e20 Thanks for posting new pictures from the next episode. It seems that JH surprises SH's father with her words so that I can sense that SH's father will like her. As for her future mother-in-law, we can see with her smile that JH has been accepted right away. @Fiona0754 Thanks for the correction. You are right, they looked at the wrong facebook page. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedifferent Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 From the drama official IG - they name it life YOLO 2017 Spoiler BTW, I miss it, does anyone know what is the meaning of the snail? Spoiler Dramabeans recap and comments of E4 is lovely. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmangla Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, bedifferent said: BTW, I miss it, does anyone know what is the meaning of the snail? think she made a comment to her brother? or was it her sis-in-law? about how snails are so lucky because they carry their house with them and cannot be kicked out of their own place or something like that.. can someone correct me if it is wrong.... 6 minutes ago, bedifferent said: they name it life YOLO 2017 what is YOLO? and why is this funny? not sure if I got the reference.... 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedifferent Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, Lmangla said: what is YOLO? and why is this funny? not sure if I got the reference.... YouOnlyLiveOnce , basically it means seize the day, take risk in life even if it's your first cuz it's your only one. Esom who plays Soo Ji posted on her IG Spoiler 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tianaa Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 when both of them run to catch the bus, and then sit in the back, looking tired and confused. JiHo asks if they didn’t agree to not do anything, and SeHee replies, “I think we did.” i cant wait to see when they go to SeeHe's parents @lavender2lovewell i loved him in SUFBB 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shedp Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 3 hours ago, bedifferent said: BTW, I miss it, does anyone know what is the meaning of the snail? The snail became the symbol of the show because it has a permanent house of its own. Snails don't need to find, purchase and pay for a house as they are made with one. Which in the drama, the house is the center of JH and SH's lives and what they struggle with. JH who has always been dreaming and wanting to live in Seoul and struggles to find a house to stay, while SH considers his home one of the 3 important things in his life; his self, kitty and house and will work all his life to completely pay his house's mortgage. The house is their common denominator that let them meet and be connected with each other. In the teaser too, JH said, a snail even has a house but why doesn't she have. And also on the first episode where she was surprised by his brother and his wife with a cake, she wished to become a snail in her next life so she won't ever be kicked out of her home. It implies that a house is the very basic need of both JH and SH. It would be nice to be a snail with a free house and be free of troubles, because as human beings, JH and SH encounter and deal with financial problems almost in the span of their lifetime in order to have their own house. A life very tiring and troublesome. 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sava2sava Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, shedp said: In the teaser too, JH said, a snail even has a house but why doesn't she have. And also on the first episode where she was surprised by his brother and his wife witha cake, she wished to become a snail in her next life so she won't ever be kicked out of her home. I think all her problems will get worst once she marries JH sure she will share a house with him but also her brother and wife will become a bigger problem because the family will think she still supposed to contribute to the house even more now that her husband has a good decent job that pays more then her dad makes.. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valentvcd Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, sava2sava said: I think all her problems will get worst once she marries JH sure she will share a house with him but also her brother and wife will become a bigger problem because the family will think she still supposed to contribute to the house even more now that her husband has a good decent job that pays more then her dad makes.. I really hope it doesn't happen... it will be to cruel and make us angry to watch... I just hope many cute, happy, funny moments on up coming episodes.. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sava2sava Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Just now, valentvcd said: I really hope it doesn't happen... it will be to cruel and make us angry to watch... I just hope many cute, happy, funny moments on up coming episodes.. @valentvcd Yes we will get those funny moments from our couple even more from him when he starts to do things out of the unexpected of his character.. (especially when we see him analyzing why he has done something that married men would do. LOL It's going to be hilarious) Back to the brother and wife they will come begging I bet the father will want her hubby to help get his horny but a job. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherryblossomkawai Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 I love watching the preview for Monday-Tuesday episode. SH says : doing things beyond tenant-tenter relationship is unconfortable. I am thinking maybe he will realize that they can't control their relationship and growing affection. Pretty sure he will regret his words when JH will try to distance herself. 5 hours ago, rembrandtz_5e20 said: SH, JH and Kitty... Photo credits in image Hide contents This face.... it's like he's having an epiphany. Maybe it's too far fetch but waiting is killing me!! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camichi Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 The other face of Lee Min Ki. I like these songs too much. Its hot. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jongski Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Done watching episode 4. Finally. I enjoyed this episode as SH and JH gets to slowly feel each others presence in that there's still that boundary and detachment as the marriage is only for their financial needs and gains. But I feel as the drama goes, it will change more to love and affection. I'm excited for that. Ep1 Title: Because It's My First 30th Birthday ✓ Ep2 Title: Because It's My First Kiss ✓ Ep3 Title Because It's my First Proposal ✓ Ep4 Title: Because This Is My First Marriage ✓ 1. I'll marry my tenant. I'll marry my landlord. The choices SH and JH made both benefited their intentions and suit ( should I say sooth) their needs. SH have this cold detachment personality that was best explained by @bebebisous33 in her previous posts. He's got that demeanor but he's actually considerate and shows concern. Case in point, inside the the bus he asked JH to take the empty seat first, she was saying no but he insisted. Afterwards he sad on the empty far from her on the other side, didn't even glance at her but just fidget with his phone all the while JH looking at him. Pondering. Another one. HeJH asked for 50 dollar discount to the rend, he nanosecond thought about it but said yes. He asked JH is she's sure of her decision about marriage to which she gave reasons ( no job, conflict with dad) and he understood making him say " it looks like stress level is beyond rental fee". She smiled and nod her head. But what I appreciated the way he wanted to be sure that JH is sure of her decision. Again he was being considerate of how it might affect her. This is part of the conversation I like.... quoting how it was sub SH: " But I was surprised. I thought you considered marriages based on love. It was very unexpected when you chose this marriage based on tenancy. " JH: "Well, just like you said.... love and affections aren't something I need for at least two years. What I need right now is that room. SH. I decided to marry my tenant today. I know it's not a choice an ordinary person would make. " And that... I feel ...is a compliment to her. JH: "To be honest... I really wanted to try it..once. Marriage." Aww. the way she said this, it feels like she doesn't think she'll get married.. so she wants to try it once. SH: "I found... a very unusual woman as my wife . Again this I feel is backhanded compliment. " I feel throughout this marriage contract ( for 2 years) I'm going to say it will be SH who will feel first the love and affection for JH. He will resist it at first ( because he is that kind of guy where everything is processed and calculated with end result that favors his purpose). But as they live together, spend time. Something will happen and he will find himself falling for him. It will be the same for JH but I think SH will be the one to first feel something. 2. Domestic bliss. Serene comfort.Thanks to 50-dollar discount. SH and JH felt like calm and serenity of the arrangement the morning after. Best decisions they mad that suited each others need w/o the complications of love.. FOR NOW. Ha ha. JS waking up refreshed to brand new day after the marriage conversation. Leisurely eating breakfast.... JH: "It's so delicious. The Food. The night too. I haven't had such sweet morning in a long time. It's just as the saying goes... I can hardly support myself, how can I date and love in this state? I don't even have 5,000 dollars for deposit." SH woke up to feeling comfortable looking at JH eating breakfast, was asked if he wants but he said he's okay with 'americano'.... SH: "I feel so comfortable. Both kitty and I. It's been a long time since I had a peaceful weekend. I don't have to suffer through blind dates.. and get stressed about recycling. By giving 50-dollar discount, I gained such a valuable serenity. Yes marrying my tenant was the answer" Her eating dining table, him drinking coffee in the living room couch. So this is how it would look like peaceful detachment. SH, the efficient one, already processed what 2 year marriage will be like with a tenant showed it to her, (Meet the parents, wedding hall, dress, photo shoot, honeymoon...) well. That's if marriage ordinary, based on love.. but theirs is a different kind So he said they will skip those. SH doing that process, makes me think tt the very least, he must have thought so or what and how it be like if he gets married. For now It's a contract based on needs but not based on love. .. but soon it will be. We can't wait. Could be the 3 episodes before drama ends. 3. Dad's a jerk. SH doing something of of his norm. That says it all. How I feel about the JH father.. His eyes will have dollars sign flashing if he find out NSH is well off. Rich. Has money. At least that's how it is. During the meeting with the father. We can understand that he wants JH to marry someone that is good financially so he asked questions about work and was impressed with SH doing IT work with his office located between LG and Samsung- because that's how the father seems to want to hear. SH not used to these kind of behavior fumbled panicked and in doing so....promised guy must promised to bride's father (courtesy of HR.. but I don't why she's an expert in marriage, tho. Hah) 4. "It was all worth it despite what I had to do". Aww. Again going back to what I said about SH how he's always concern and considerate. So in the morning before going to work, he gave payment for gifts spent for the father. JH: "Don't worry. I'll pay for it. You had a rough time yesterday." JH asking if his knees are okay. SH staring at her.. SH: " I think.. you were pretty wise yesterday. For marriage, meeting parents is actually the most important part. Because you made the right decision, it all really went well. It was all worth it despite what I had to do". SH growing up I see sense of prim and proper decorum. He is how he process(es) things. How you are a person today stems from how you are a child growing up. I would like to see just teeny back story of his childhood. He then went on to say it's time to hell his family as well. SH: "My family is patriarchal too. But it's like having two bosses with one of them assisting the other one" JH: "Is you mom the one assisting?" SH: "Yes. That's why I'm trying to pass the ball to my mom first" SH then asked to take a selfie with her first as it would be more convincing than just sending text message. The scene had me laughing cos he never once smiled. He just had that serious forced to make a selfie look. Ha ha. @bebebisous33 I'm glad I tag and asked you to watch this. Even before Ep 4 was shown, I remember you actually explained in your first post how there could be the similarities of JH and SH relationship with their respective fathers.. How the fathers are more prominent in as far as decision making and when it concerns son. You knew and sensed it already. You're good. 4. "I'm marrying this woman" Brief scene of sending text message to his mom. He knew as soon as the message was read, she will call. And she did. Again, I'm not too sure how well SH mom will react to JH but I think.. she would like someone .. 'social status'. I think. 5. Dream high. Aim high. But love normally. The end narration of JH. After the showing us how life was like with her two best friends. Their dreams and aspirations. HR wanted to get married have kids as she's at the age were giving birth could cause problem while SJ, she's been dreaming to become CEO all her life. So she works hard day and night but still.. she's just an employee. And JH..... she saw how her two friends were affected by something they can't seem to achieve. HJ opted not tell about her marriage to SH. HR wants to get married badly, SJ doesn't want marriage until she becomes CEO. HJ different from the tow whereas her dream is to become an excellent writer. She learned to live life as it is. She is in touch with reality. She knows this is where she is at. This is how she should act. How she should work things out. At the end of the day, amongst the three, she is the lucky. Love and affection will come gradually. It's slow progress but.. little by little she will live life in normalcy. JH: "I might be living to avoid the worst thing that could happen tomorrow. You don't marry someone for love anymore. That's for the rich people these days. Now we are... we just wanted to live normally. To do that, we have to do something. " I like this episode as we saw through each character's personalities.. I felt bad for SW doing everything to please HR buying the sofa despite the price and ( he probably used savings) I also felt bad for SJ. she's been working too hard to achieve her ambition. She tries to please co workers, tries to be at the beck and call of the boss ( to be on his good side). Some times you do these things to get end results. SJ has that kind of strong personality. How will she when she's with MSG.. I can imagine already. MSG be likes.. yes ma'am kind of.. hahaha. Imagine if the start up company really goes very big! and she ends up getting married to him As for HR. I got irritated with her me, myself and I whine. Like shuddap! SW did so much. He had the right to get hurt and walk away. She now has to win him over again. I can also imagine a scenario where in SH mom is not warmed up to JH and this will make SH care more for her. Defend her, and will fall for her eventually. Yeah. I am my own scriptwriter. Ha ha. just indulge... it's actually what I want to happen And I'm thinking wedding for the three girls at the end of the drama? wedding hall, dress, photo shoot, honey moon.... Yes? No? This good drama made me do a long post. 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b4l01 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 After dealing with RL, I’ve finally watched episode 4 with sub. Wow! The thread is moving fast that I had to backread several pages. I really enjoy reading your analyses, views, and opinions. It gives me more reason to love this drama. @stroppyse , as usual your insight about JH’s mother made me somehow understand her position in the family. Before reading your post, I actually felt the same like @Jillia. @bebebisous33, thanks for pointing out about how JH could have lived up to her father’s expectations and realized why she was given that name. Now it made sense to me why she used to smoke before. With her personality, I really can’t believe that she was once a smoker. Episode 4 for me reflects the three friends’ pursuit of their own dream. HR with her long time goal to be married, SJ to be a CEO and JH to be a writer and to find a place of her own. For now, all of them are going through the same predicament having their dreams still to be attained. JH’s decision to marry her landlord is her way of pursuing her dream that is for her to continue living in Seoul thus giving herself a span of at least two years to achieve her ultimate dream. Among the three, I find SJ to be the strongest so it’s sad to see her being harassed by her colleagues and helpless. All she could do is refrain herself from doing something not good for her own career and avoid them as much as she can. I just wish she’s sleeping with men in her own will not because she’s giving sexual favor for the sake of her goal which I find possible. With HR, I understand why majority is upset with her reaction when her expectation of proposal from WS didn’t happen. Just what SJ said, she should have at least considered the effort made by WS and SJ considering SJ is a busy woman. Most of all, she should have not embarrassed WS in front of her friends. I find her crying immature. But unlike her friends, HR has a very simple dream and that is to get married. We really cannot say that she’s a complete loser for she has at least a job. So I understand her disappointment because for her that will complete her happiness. Besides, they’ve been in a relationship for 7 years. (She actually reminds me of the second female lead in Fight My Way) I cannot blame her totally for not telling directly to WS her intention for them to get married already for I believe somehow in the past she was able to convey her desire for marriage. And maybe she’s among who believe in the traditional way that a marriage proposal should come from the man and should not be initiated by the woman. And for WS, he at least should have sensed this being with her for a long time. The problem with their relationship that I am seeing is WS’s view on marriage. In one of their conversation, WS said that marriage is not for everybody. So maybe he’s one of those who don’t believe in marriage. Or maybe it’s his just present belief because for now, he is not financially stable. And HR on the other hand, should know the situation very well and not expect marriage proposal from him for the meantime. She needs to divert her attention to keep herself from thinking of marriage because the more she chase it, the more she'll get hurt. I cracked up too during SH and JH family dinner. It was really hilarious. And my most favorite scene was when SH said he will not let JH’s hands get wet. He said it with his eyes closed and seemed mortified. After that, he slumped to the floor weakened by what he said. LOL 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebebisous33 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 @jongski Thanks a lot for the compliment! I am glad that you liked my analysis. But I can definitely return the compliment. This comment Quote she saw how her two friends were affected by something they can't seem to achieve. JH opted not tell about her marriage to SH. HR wants to get married badly, SJ doesn't want marriage until she becomes CEO. JH different from the tow whereas her dream is to become an excellent writer. She learned to live life as it is. She is in touch with reality. She knows this is where she is at. This is how she should act. How she should work things out. was eye-opening. You are so point on. While SJ and HR are unhappy because of their respective dream that seems to dictate their life, JH is even willing to give up her dream (becoming a writer), since she has experienced that her dream doesn't match reality. She gets aware that her dream was more a fantasy. In the end she is much more realistic as she is able to accept it, whereas we can see that HR is so focused on the marriage that she has even overlooked her boyfriend. Her dream has blinded her to reality. For her, marriage has even become more important than him and her love for him. I guess, this comes from the way JH was raised. She has learnt to adapt herself and fit in her new situation. She has been more rational and pragmatic. As for SJ, she wants to become a CEO, yet she is not trying to find someone else in order to create her own firm. Look at MSG, he did it with the help of SH as he was well aware that himself alone (MSG) would not be enough. I had already pointed out that SJ could definitely work with SW. He has the ideas, while she has a lot of experience. In other words, all of them (Jh, HR, SJ) have thought that their dream can only be achieved on their own, without the help of others. SH is different from all the others because his dream was based on reality and not fantasy hence he will experience what he had never expected to experience. As long as you have no expectation, there is no disappointment... therefore SH will never regret marrying JH since he has such low expectations: no love, only comfort and peaceful cohabitation. Nevertheless, I am quite sure that SH will be the one who supports JH so that she can make her dream come true. He brought her the scripts back. Married with someone like SH (financially stable), JH will have more power. @b4l01 Thanks for the compliment! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakura2016 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 24 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said: SH is different from all the others because his dream was based on reality and not fantasy hence he will experience what he had never expected to experience. As long as you have no expectation, there is no disappointment... therefore SH will never regret marrying JH since he has such low expectations: no love, only comfort and peaceful cohabitation. Nevertheless, I am quite sure that SH will be the one who supports JH so that she can make her dream come true. He brought her the scripts back. Married with someone like SH (financially stable), JH will have more power. but things will start changing than his 1st plan which can make him feel uncomfortable at 1st but I can't wait to see him experiencing new kind of life and feelings he didn't plan for!! that's me too!! cr: @dmtroll 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nubianlegalmind Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Quick episode 4 thoughts... Her family is so oppressive towards her. I was beside myself with her father and brother acting all shook about them living together. Umm, excuse me, but brother dear has a live-in wife with a shotgun baby on the way. At least JH has a degree and a career and so does SH. Does her sister-in-law even work? The hypocrisy was suffocating. Her poor friend! Let this be a lesson, if you call yourself an adult, be able to communicate what you want in a relationship. She knows he is still working towards a better life. She knows that them living together has created all kinds of red flags. He has gotten comfortable, she has too, but that comfort has kept them from progressing like most couples. Here he is about to get into more debt buying her a couch she wouldn't shut up about and it was an analogy for marriage. *sigh* Most men aren't that smart. The corporate friend is such an inspiration. Even she mentioned that she wished the other friend had goals outside of marriage. It hit me then, that a LOT of women are afraid of becoming their mothers, aunts, grandmothers, and other women they watched growing up. Meanwhile, Ji Ho is sitting on a landmine. She IS getting married. LOL! And it is an arrangement that both of her friends could probably understand. I think this drama is also tackling the marriage issue in Korea right now. Millennials in Korea aren't getting married like generations before them. Most can't afford to get married, like the couch friend. Others have chosen to focus on their careers like the corporate friend. Frankly, what JH and SH are doing makes a lot of sense. They get along well, they share the same ideas on spending and living, but they have chosen to not allow love to cloud their arrangement. I say chosen because I believe they both have feelings for one another, they just don't realize it. They both thought about that bus stop kiss. I also found it interesting in the preview that SH asked his colleagues if they thought he was gay. Why would that matter if he had no thoughts on getting married in the first place? But he does think about women, like any other straight red-blooded male, and he is aware of it now thanks to JH, whom he also said was pretty and he also surmised that she was the most perfect roommate. For someone so technical like him, that sounds a lot like love. My favorite part was when she finally told him that she quit her job. He barely blinked before he was telling her, very confidently that she would find work somewhere else. She seemed a bit surprised by this. He was also agreeable to going down on the rent for her. Yep, he's got it bad. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denny Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 We are way overdue for this romcom. We haven't had a Korean series as enjoyable, quirky and funny as this in a long time. I'm looking forward to the inevitable romantic development and I expect the ride to be as good as the first four episodes. I also expect SH's hair style to undergo a renaissance. 11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddeokbokkii Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 59 minutes ago, nubianlegalmind said: Quick episode 4 thoughts... Her family is so oppressive towards her. I was beside myself with her father and brother acting all shook about them living together. Umm, excuse me, but brother dear has a live-in wife with a shotgun baby on the way. At least JH has a degree and a career and so does SH. Does her sister-in-law even work? The hypocrisy was suffocating. Ah!, I'm guessing that you're not Asian. I think it's time for someone to explain this bit about Asian culture. Especially to those people who are not familiar with it. Most Asian families are very traditional and conservative. For an unrelated man and woman to live under the same roof before marriage is considered taboo in Asian culture. In Western countries, it's common for couple to living-in together before marriage. But, this is a big "no no" in most Asian countries. Asian families are very strict against these type of living arrangement. This is the very reason why he proposed to her the fake marriage, so they can continue living under the same roof together. I hope this helps those of you who are not familiar with Asian culture to understand some of the thing that going on in this drama. Her friend(Ho Rang - I think) that living with her boyfriend, I don't think her family know that she is living-in with her boyfriend. I could be wrong, but I doubt it. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramanoona Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Dramas are a reflection of the society it's based on. Well, except for the fantasy themed dramas. I agree with @ddeokbokkii that living together in Asian culture (like in Korea) is not encouraged. Circumstances occur when things are expedited (such as JH's brother and his gf because of pregnancy) and you could see that the only reason for a quickie marriage was 'abe' or the woman being pregnant. (in the mind of JH's brother) Times are changing and many couples may be living together but I bet that most times, the parents are not aware of the situation (thinking back to Father is Strange and the big hooha when one daughter was discovered to be living with her boyfriend). JH and SH may be having the most practical reasons for marriage but I think they will have the most fun time trying to figure out where they stand in the marriage. To get things moving, perhaps it's time for more skinship. LOL. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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