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Hi @rubie and fellow Sunshiners - hope it's OK to post the following:

 

Yesterday, 19 October, "Mr Sunshine" was mentioned on KBS2 childcare programme "Trio's Childcare Challenge".  Assistant "nanny" Hwang Chi Yeul (singer of OST No: 15 for the drama) visited one of the filming sites at Gochang. He was hoping for a female guest to help him look after eight (!) children for the day.

 

Here is an excerpt where Mr Sunshine is mentioned:

 

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On 9/22/2019 at 6:13 PM, freeze said:

I am so angry seeing Aeshin push Eugene away saying she wants him to live (I desperately want them to be fighting together). But then I have some thoughts. Just like Eugene once said "I’m worried for myself", Aeshin wants him to live mostly because she's worried for herself.

 

Before Eugene came, saving Joseon was all what she devoted her life to. Falling in love with Eugene had never been a part of her plan. She wanted to be with him but could not abandon her ideal. Since then, the target of her life may have gradually shifted to being together with Eugene in a freed Joseon. She was acting selfishly when pushing Eugene away knowing he wanted nothing else than to be with her because she was having a fragile hope that one day they could be together, when Joseon is freed again. That hope might give her strength to stay alive. She wanted to have someone to think about, knowing that he was somewhere thinking about her too.

 

 

Great point! I'm still a little on the fence with how to view Ae Shins actions in some of the later episodes. While it is completely understandable and natural to do everything in your power to protect your loved ones, it was still not her decision to make. In some way, her pushing him away and thereby hurting Eugene immensely is not totally different from Dong Mae cutting her hair without asking for her consent first in order to protect her (but of course it's not nearly the same extreme and there is absolutely no excuse for his behavior). Both acts were done out of love, but in a misguided way and both inflicted a different kind of harm. That is not to say that Ae Shin is not allowed to break up with Eugene if she wants to, but she choose to take on a lot of responsibility when giving Eugene a home to finally belong to. Eugene feeling like he never belonged anywhere and the sense of worthless he felt because of that was always his biggest source of pain and so deeply rooted inside of him that he only could commit to her completely when she offered him a place at her side. In retrospective I feel like she didn't fully understand what this act really meant to Eugene and I do fault her for the way in which she tried to cut him out of her life. While I get that her intentions were meant to protect him, by then she should have known Eugene well enough to know that not even death would be more painful for him then to be left alone again and tossed aside like that. 
I mean, Ae Shin made it clear from the very start that Joseon always came first, and while in a way that is a little sad, given how devoted Eugene is to her, at least she never pretended otherwise and no one can fault her for that. However, Eugene didn't ask her to choose him before Joseon, he merely wanted to walk the same path as her, no matter where that might lead them and she never until that moment make it seem like she wouldn't accept that. 

That being said, of course Ae Shin is only human and I love that she is not a perfect character who constantly makes the right decisions. It makes her way more realistic and it is a logical reaction on her part. She just witnessed the loss of her whole family. It's hard to expect her to act all rational. But where she definitely lost many points in my book was her cold and short farewell right after they arrived in Japan. If Eugene hadn't stopped her their last moment together would have been nothing than a few cold words from her. Making the goodbye so short was solely for her own benefit as to not make it any harder on herself, without taking into account what kind of impression that would give to Eugene and how much pain and doubt it would cause him. That was definitely her most selfish act in the whole show for me.

 

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I love this show so much! It's not only my favorite KDrama (which isn't to say much) but my favorite show in general. I'm generally more a fan of character driven atmospheric storys and man, this show really delivers in that regard. I've rarely seen a story that delivers such a dense atmosphere. From the visuals to the music to the story portrayed, it is so rich. The characters are all have their own story to tell and the supportive relationships the 5 main characters form is simply beautiful and inspiring to watch. I wish there would be more stories that focus on those positive human emotions and how people come together and help each other in times of struggle - especially in historical settings we don't see something like that very often. I prefer this above all those gritty and dark storys we often see in a setting like this. 

The cinematography here is outstanding, but even better is most of the time spot on editing. There are many movies and shows that have nice visuals these days, but here the pictures don't simply look nice, they are full of visual storytelling and symbolism. Combined with the great editing and music it often almost looks like a poem come to life. I've never seen anything quite like it before even with movies that mainly focus on visual storytelling. I'm not even gonna start on the clever and deep way the dialogue is written, because then I would probably never stop talking. 
 

That aside, I'm not really a fan of romance, because mostly it's done in a really shallow and cliche way but the love story presented here is probably the best depiction of love I have ever seen. They show how powerful the simple act of holding each others hands or hugging someone can be when in modern days these things have become such a mundane thing. There is no need to show them kissing, because everything they have done during the show portraits their deep love for each other far better. 
In a way, they were comrades first and then lovers, just like people in real life should not only be in love with each other, but best friends as well. Showing how they slowly fall in love and get to know each other better was bittersweet to watch. It was especially beautiful to see how they learned things about themselves and the world from each other and helped each other to grow and become better versions of themselves. It's refreshing that by episode 9 they already made their feelings for each other clear and it wasn't the typical will they/wont they for the whole show.

 

Good performances from the whole cast, but especially from Kim Tae Ri and Lee Byung Hun. KTR has such a refreshing and unique face and presence and she really is a natural. She really shines especially in her more naive and vulnerable moments. I'm really looking forward to seeing more from her in the future. She deserves all the praise she got for this.
LBH definitely was the star of the show for me. He probably had the most thankless job out of the main cast, especially in the beginning. His character often was extremely restricted in the way he could express himself, but even in moments when he was completely stone faced, he just radiated emotions and I could always feel that there was some stronger emotions brewing beneath the stony facade. In the moments when he was able to freely show emotions it is beautiful to watch. I've rarely seen an actor who is able to express such a huge range of emotions in such a deep and convincing manner. The things he can express with his eyes alone. His micro expressions and general presence do the rest. 

 

Overall a really wonderful show. It will take a long time until I might find something that will surpass this one.
(Also, still surprised how this absolute gem and DOTS could come from the same writer. That's what I call progress)

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Hello @BlancheNeige, welcome to Soompi forum and very happy to see you here. It's so good to read such a wonderful Mr Sunshine analysis.. even after more than a year it ended.. we're still unable to forget this superbly spectacular series and probably never will. dontcare.gifIt's really hard to find something that surpass Mr.Sunshine for all the reasons you have listed. It's enlightening to read the observation.. particularly coming from Ae Shin's standpoint as she's been somewhat mistakenly assumed during the series. This drama definitely made the viewers feel what were in each of the main protagonists' thoughts that evoke such strong reaction every time.

 

Undeniably the strong emotion lingers on.. even just by seeing the captures of Eugene & Ae Shin and the rest of the clan, how we'll ever forget.. the intense heartbreaking portrayal and that ending..

 

Hope that you will visit other threads as welll and continue to share your expressive thoughts with us.

 

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October 23, 2019

 

Child Actors an Essential Element for a Popular Drama

 

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Little giants are encouraging the popularity of dramas.

 

The active parts played by little actors are remarkable. "When the Camellia Blooms" Kim Kang-hoon (Kang Pil-goo), "The Tale of Nokdu" Park Da-yeon (Hwang Aeng-doo) and "Pegasus Market" Um Tae-yoon (Jji-ae) are some of the scene stealers we are talking about.

 

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Kim Kang-hoon is just as good as any grown-up actor with his performance. He played solid roles in "Mr. Sunshine" as little Lee Byung-hun (Eugene Choi) and in "Hotel Del Luna" as little Yeo Jin-goo (Goo Chan-seong). In "When the Camellia Blooms" he plays Pil-goo, Gong Hyo-jin's (Dong-baek) son who is mature, but pure at heart.

 

In the previous episode, he realized that Kim Ji-suk (Kang Jong-ryeol) is his father, but couldn't help but be overwhelmed as he ate. He argues that he's almost 10, but he loves it when Kang Ha-neul (Hwang Yong-sik) gives him the 'plane ride'. Thanks to Kim Kang-hoon's performance, the love triangle between Gong Hyo-jin, Kang Ha-neul and Kim Ji-suk's characters expands to the meaning of 'family'.

 

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Park Da-yeon and Um Tae-yoon have less acting experience compared to Kim Kang-hoon, but they are just as good. Park Da-yeon, who plays Jang Dong-yoon's (Jeon Nok-doo) betrothed-wannabe and an adorable glutton, is the love messenger between Jang Dong-yoon and Kim So-hyun (Dong Dong-joo). She's also very fluent in the dialect that she has to portray, almost to a point where she could actually be a local. It turns out, the little actress is from Seoul, but her mother and grandmother are from a district with a dialect, and that's where she gets her talent from.

 

Um Tae-yoon even has a trending phrase. He is the youngest member of the 'human cart' tribe in "Pegasus Market". It's his trademark to make a small heart with his fingers and say 'sattu!'. His round eyes, plump cheeks, and small lips enable him to form various expressions, and he is also very fluent in the tribal language, which sounds Korean, but isn't. They say that he's just as adorable a little star on set.

 

 

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16 hours ago, rubie said:

Little Eugene Choi is doing well in 'When the Camellia Blooms' mrs.jpg

 

Mrs Haman is in 'When the Camellia Blooms' too :D

 

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This series is also available for streaming on Netflix. I am at episode 6 right now. Overall it's a pretty good one, with warm and lovely romance plus some thriller.

 

However, Mr Sunshine sets the bar too high, now all other dramas I watch seem to be missing something.

 

On 10/21/2019 at 11:32 PM, BlancheNeige said:

LBH definitely was the star of the show for me. He probably had the most thankless job out of the main cast, especially in the beginning. His character often was extremely restricted in the way he could express himself, but even in moments when he was completely stone faced, he just radiated emotions and I could always feel that there was some stronger emotions brewing beneath the stony facade. In the moments when he was able to freely show emotions it is beautiful to watch. I've rarely seen an actor who is able to express such a huge range of emotions in such a deep and convincing manner. The things he can express with his eyes alone. His micro expressions and general presence do the rest. 

 

I cannot count how many time I am impressed by his micro expressions :star:

 

Like in episode 8, when they met each other again at the apothecary (the scene of their first hug). He said 'I thought I'd miss you again' and when Ae Shin replied with "Me too", he was stunned (yeah, this micro expression was priceless. I wasn't even sure that I saw the movement on his face, but I could absolutely feel it :o). The guy must have been coming to the place occasionally (knowing that place was her hideout) hoping he could see her by chance, but he didn't expect and couldn't quite believe that Ae Shin was doing the same thing. 

 

I love how the writer didn't try to show all the details and leave it to us viewers to interpret what happened through her characters'  expressions and conversations.

 

*Note: I am re-watching this series with my friend (She watched it the first time) and I found small details that I didn't notice before. I am so glad that at the second time watching, the show still gives me brand new feelings.

 

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On 10/21/2019 at 11:32 PM, BlancheNeige said:

Overall a really wonderful show. It will take a long time until I might find something that will surpass this one.
(Also, still surprised how this absolute gem and DOTS could come from the same writer. That's what I call progress)

 

I watched several other series written by KES. And I feel like in those series, she targeted viewers' emotion and expectation to decide on the script. But she seems to put all her heart to the script of Mr Sunshine for the sake of the script itself and that makes the story absolutely outstanding with no cliche and no fan service (Just my personal opinion)

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Hi @freeze, really good to see you here and read your thoughts. :) You're absolutely right, our amazing Haman daek is also rocking it in 'When the Camellia Blooms'.. I kinda forget to mention her as I've seen her in 'The Light in Your Eyes' as well as in 'Parasite'... doing awesome job in both and few other dramas as well. Award-wise, she's likely the most successful one of all considering her projects shown after Mr.Sunshine. All of them are doing well indeed.. we obviously can't help reminiscing every time seeing the actors elsewhere than the Sunshine Land. :lol:

 

Reading Kdrama news mentioning series coming back with Season 2 makes me sigh for Mr Sunshine. Obviously it will never happen (even if the cast declines at first, they can change their minds) but with that ending.. the possibility is totally impossible. :tears: 

 

Anyway, thanks so much to you and @BlancheNeige again for wonderfully dissecting the performance of Lee Byung Hun as Eugene Choi. Some comments have ridiculed him acting with restrained emotions and expressions of the character he's playing. Unfortunately to be deemed good, one has to scream, shout and be excessive instead. Hope all of us will be able to join the discussion when his new drama 'Here'  airs next year. It'll be great to gather again all the Sunshiners and enjoy seeing him on the small screen again.

 

Another Mr.Sunshine alumni who is doing fabulous is Eugene's student Jang Dong Yoon in 'The Tale of Nokdu'.. and clearly it's hard to miss the similarity (coincidental or not :P) shown in these captures picked up by fans.

 

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On 10/25/2019 at 11:56 AM, rubie said:

Hello @BlancheNeige, welcome to Soompi forum and very happy to see you here. It's so good to read such a wonderful Mr Sunshine analysis.. even after more than a year it ended.. we're still unable to forget this superbly spectacular series and probably never will. dontcare.gifIt's really hard to find something that surpass Mr.Sunshine for all the reasons you have listed. It's enlightening to read the observation.. particularly coming from Ae Shin's standpoint as she's been somewhat mistakenly assumed during the series. This drama definitely made the viewers feel what were in each of the main protagonists' thoughts that evoke such strong reaction every time.

 

Undeniably the strong emotion lingers on.. even just by seeing the captures of Eugene & Ae Shin and the rest of the clan, how we'll ever forget.. the intense heartbreaking portrayal and that ending..

 

Hope that you will visit other threads as welll and continue to share your expressive thoughts with us.

 

Thanks for the warm welcome! I don't even know why it took me so long to finally post on here, but reading all those old posts really makes me wish that I already was here when the show aired so I could share my thoughts with all the sunshiners who were active during those days. Glad to see that some are still here to this day. I've been mostly active on tumblr over the last months posting my analysis and metas for this wonderful show, but the fandom there is so dead by now, I feel like I'm talking into a void.

 

From all the posts I've read from back when the show aired, I feel like some people really didn't treat Ae Shin fairly. Maybe the problem is that no matter how romantic Mr. Sunshine is, it isn't a romance drama like most typical KDramas. For a typical romance drama, I would have other expectations as well but I think the show made perfectly clear from early on that this wasn't that kind of drama. I think KES has done a wonderful job with Ae Shin, giving us a heroine that is strong, but not overbearingly so, who has a soft and naive side and real goals that aren't self motivated in any way, but she's also allowed to have faults. Even with typical strong female characters, we hardly ever get such a range of things. Sure she is treating Eugene a little unfairly now and then. It's frustrating and heartbreaking to watch, but that actually makes her more human and not a badly written character as some people suggest. I hate how women are held to higher standards than men in some ways. I also wish that she would have behaved differently in some scenes, but she is only human like all the other characters, and making choices we as the viewers don't personally agree with doesn't make her a badly and inconsistent written character.

On the other hand, male characters are held to higher standards in different ways as well. I've read my fair share of comments about people calling Eugene a weak and spineless man, who doesn't deserve a strong woman like Ae Shin. This particularly coming from people who think she would be far better matched with Dong Mae makes me question what some people deem as real strength for male characters. Eugene lacks in terms of typical male values like pride, possessiveness or violent tendencies. He is untypically demure, insecure (in certain situations), soft and subservient for a male character and shows far more feminine traits than all the other characters. That's something we hardly see in fiction and it's a little sad how some people call those (typically feminine) traits a weakness and think he's a wimp. People always cry that they want strong female characters. But for one, you can't have a strong female character and pair her off with someone aggressively male, that just doesn't work, and it's also a little hypocritical to expect reshaping of outdated gender norms only for female characters but make fun of it as soon as the same concept is used for male characters :/

 

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Anyway, thanks so much to you and @BlancheNeige again for wonderfully dissecting the performance of Lee Byung Hun as Eugene Choi. Some comments have ridiculed him acting with restrained emotions and expressions of the character he's playing. Unfortunately to be deemed good, one has to scream, shout and be excessive instead. Hope all of us will be able to join the discussion when his new drama 'Here'  airs next year. It'll be great to gather again all the Sunshiners and enjoy seeing him on the small screen again.

 

Not to be judgemental because I know like any art, acting is very subjective to some degree, but the people who complained about LBH not putting any effort in his performance don't seem to know much about acting and types of different acting styles that are required depending on characterization. Not saying anything about those who simply don't like him, because that's totally fine. If you like an actor or not has only partly to do with his acting skills. There are immensely skilled actors who I don't like as well, but that's a matter of taste and I would never call them bad actors. So yeah, like any art it is subjective to a degree, but calling LBH a bad actor is as wrong as calling Daniel D. Lewis a bad actor.
LBH can be extremely expressive when he chooses to be, but this role required him to be subtle and sometimes even expressionless. It's part of his character. Eugene simply doesn't know how to express himself in the beginning. He was part of the military for a long time and clearly didn't form any human connections aside from Kyle (the only person with whom he is extremely expressive even in the beginning. No idea how people didn't catch that) so it's only logical for him to be extremely closed off. It's unfair to compare his performance to that of others who are allowed to show their characters expressing themselves more freely. And I honestly can't name many actors, even in hollywood, who would be able to do this kind of subtle acting. LBH is a character actor, they hardly ever do the over-expressive showy acting like many actors do. Sadly, there are not many actors who are able to do this kind of acting, so I guess people are just not used to it (maybe it's good that I only got here after the show aired. I would have done nothing but arguer with people lol)

 

I'll definitely be here for "Here"! I've recently watched Live (one of the very few kdramas I was able to finish) and I'm really excited to see what he is able to do with a more slice of life character. Hope that new drama will be more like "Live" than "It's ok, that's love"

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On 10/26/2019 at 7:43 AM, freeze said:

I cannot count how many time I am impressed by his micro expressions :star:

 

Like in episode 8, when they met each other again at the apothecary (the scene of their first hug). He said 'I thought I'd miss you again' and when Ae Shin replied with "Me too", he was stunned (yeah, this micro expression was priceless. I wasn't even sure that I saw the movement on his face, but I could absolutely feel it :o). The guy must have been coming to the place occasionally (knowing that place was her hideout) hoping he could see her by chance, but he didn't expect and couldn't quite believe that Ae Shin was doing the same thing. 

 

I love how the writer didn't try to show all the details and leave it to us viewers to interpret what happened through her characters'  expressions and conversations.

 

*Note: I am re-watching this series with my friend (She watched it the first time) and I found small details that I didn't notice before. I am so glad that at the second time watching, the show still gives me brand new feelings.

 

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I love that scene when they first hug! His almost expressionless face in that scene really tells so much about where his character is emotionally in that moment. On first watch I was a little surprised that he didn't hug her back in that scene. It took me a while to realize that he wasn't able to emotionally be completely invested in their relationship by then because he didn't trust her to really accept him for who he is. Great how they mirrored this scene with the later one in the apothecary when he finally was able to hug her back. Eugene in general is not a talkative character, so his acting in those moments really is all we have to get where he is emotionally.

 

I think my favorite scenes that really showcase his talent for subtleness is when he asks her to do love with him (the realization on his face the moment she takes is hand and they touch for the first time. It is so subtle, but you just see that this moment shook him to his core and that 2 seconds after going along with his plan of using Ae Shin for his revenge, he already realizes that he's far too deep in and won't be able to do it. You can totally see how this realization makes him uncomfortable with his own feelings as well. The whole scene is full of subtle moments like that) and the scene when they have their confrontation on the ice (that's actually my favorite scene in the whole show because it's the turning point for both their characters. It is noticeable before that scene that Eugene has a lot of complexes with his past as a slave and that he isn't able to see himself as being worth more than his former status, but in this scene it gets especially evident. His whole monologue doesn't even give new information to the viewer, because we already know all the stuff that went down that day. But simply the way his voice breaks more than once and how he sometimes has to practically force himself to say certain words is so heartbreaking to watch and tells much more about how he views himself than 10 pages of info dump in dialogue could. He doesn't even give Ae Shin the chance to react properly. He went into that confrontation with his mind already made up about how Ae Shin would react to his revelation and that's just such a classic case of subconscious thought manifestation, it's really sad to watch. Simply the way he hesitates and is barely able to say the words "[What was it that shocked you, what the noble man said,] or was it my origin" tells so much about his character. If I had to point out my favorite moment acting wise, it would be that one.

 

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Yes I love that as well! The show strictly uses the show don't tell approach and that's so refreshing. Especially in recent years movies and shows mostly do it the other way around, always spoon feeding us information and it's really easy to get used to this approach, even tho it is not how it should work. I actually needed some adjusting to get used to finally seeing something more mainstream that required me to think about the deeper hidden meaning behind words and actions. It's easy to write some parts of the show off as lazy writing or simply not logical, when in reality in most cases it is just done in way that requires the viewer to make connections to different scenes and think about stuff without getting it spelled out for them (which doesn't mean that the show is completely free of some improbable events happening ...)

 

How is your friend liking it so far?(I've watched it the first time with my sister and it took away a little from my joy of watching it to see that she wasn't moved by some of the stuff happening at all lol).
I've seen the show 4 times by now and I still find new stuff every time I revisit a scene. Just recently I did some analysis of some of the symbolic clues in some of the scenes and I had some completely new realizations. That's really a sign for the quality of the show.

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19 hours ago, BlancheNeige said:

Thanks for the warm welcome! I don't even know why it took me so long to finally post on here, but reading all those old posts really makes me wish that I already was here when the show aired so I could share my thoughts with all the sunshiners who were active during those days. Glad to see that some are still here to this day. I've been mostly active on tumblr over the last months posting my analysis and metas for this wonderful show, but the fandom there is so dead by now, I feel like I'm talking into a void.

 

Truthfully, the pleasure is all ours, it's so good to read your thoughts and well-written description of Eugene especially. :) It's like going through the live recap and discussion all over again. It would be awesome if you were here before, too but better late than never they say and knowing that you've been reading the old posts here are especially heartwarming. This drama will not be forgotten, even if the real-time streaming and recap are over & done with.. the scenes are still fresh in our minds as ever. I think the more we think back about the series, with inputs of fellow fans we will refresh our memory and unlock more treasures.

 

Reading what you wrote.. those comments calling Eugene weak and spineless are just mean & simply demeaning. He was more in control of the situation and never acted out of the ordinary given that he's a high-ranking military officer and at the time a representative of the US in Joseon. I must say that Eugene had inherited the good quality of a gentleman from his mother. Despite being slaves for life to a (an undeserving) family, she brought him up in a positive light and the thoughts of her kept him living no matter how tough things were. Eugene could kill the Kim couple straightaway in revenge but all he wanted was to find his parents' graves. Even that wish was impossible but he still held it in, he has the power but he was not drunk with it to go on a bloody rampage. Instead he got HeeSung's mother to voluntary apologize, kneel and beg for her son's life which is a stronger form of revenge instead. A very meaningful scene, conveying a powerful impact.. while she's not directly at fault, Mrs. Kim acknowledges her family's wrongdoing to Eugene's family.

 

You are absolutely right about Eugene being expressive with Kyle.. he was rather chummy with him, too. That's a strong bond they had.. each would definitely fight & die for the other. Indeed some people thought Eugene was supposedly non-expressive persona with everyone.. they're just being selective, not attentive and never happy that he's the lead who got the girl. no2.gif

 

Please continue to write and share anything about Mr Sunshine here. It's so good to keep the drama-talk going. The crowd may have left the room but the door is always open. :lol: If you've watched other LBH dramas or movies, the threads are readily available or simply drop by at Lee Byung Hun thread where we'd share & talk about everything.

 

Soompi forum is most active at the drama threads particularly during the broadcast duration, after that is mostly on and off but interestingly the twitter Sunshiners are still incredibly active and supportive as well. The fans watch other Kdramas and enjoy those as well but they never stop relating to Mr Sunshine every time.

 

Like this.. when MR.SUNSHINE Meets TALES OF NOKDU :P

 

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~*Meanwhile Eugene Choi watching #TheTaleOfNokdu trailer n poster..* 
Joon-young, My boy. My lion. I left you for two seconds in Joseon alone and this is what you've become? We need to talk. Where's Ae-sin?

 

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October 23, 2019

 

18 Best Korean Dramas of This Decade

 

By Diksha Sundriyal TheCinemaholic

 

The wave of Korean dramas has swept over the world, especially after becoming closely associated with streaming services like Netflix. The stories present fresh faces, different characters, a look into Korean culture and history and a form of storytelling that is not seen anywhere else in the world. These genre-bending shows have lovable characters at their heart and their refreshing take on the world makes them even more alluring. If you are a K-drama lover, you should heed this list of best Korean dramas of the 2010s:


18. The King’s Doctor (2012)

 

17. Bridal Mask (2012)

 

16. Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo (2016)

 

15. Healer (2014-2015)

 

14. Reply 1988 (2015-2016)

 

13. Arthdal Chronicles (2019)

 

12. Guardian: The Lonely and Great God (2016-2017)

 

11. Mr Sunshine (2018)

 

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‘Mr Sunshine’ stars Lee Byung-hun in the lead role. He is known for working in films like ‘The Good, the Bad, the Weird’, ‘I Saw the Devil’, ‘Inside Men’, ‘The Magnificent Seven’, ‘Terminator Genisys’, and a whole lot of other successful projects. ‘Mr Sunshine’ marked his return to Korean television, and the show became one of the highest-rated dramas of the year. It follows the story of a man who had escaped to the United States when he was a boy and now returns to Korea as a US Marine Corps officer. He struggles in belonging to his homeland but also has to jump into action because a dangerous scheme against the country is in the works.

 

10. Stranger (2017)

 

9. Children of Nobody (2019)

 

8. My Mister (2018)

 

7. Good Doctor (2013)

 

6. Misaeng: Incomplete Life (2014)

 

5. Kingdom (2019)

 

4. The Slave Hunters (2010)

 

3. Love Alarm (2019)

 

2. Descendants of the Sun (2016)

 

1. Mother (2018)

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On 10/28/2019 at 4:12 AM, BlancheNeige said:

How is your friend liking it so far?(I've watched it the first time with my sister and it took away a little from my joy of watching it to see that she wasn't moved by some of the stuff happening at all lol).

 

Same here :D I don't want good details to be missed out so I made a lot of efforts to explain things to her but she seems to only care about the overall plot.

 

On 10/28/2019 at 4:12 AM, BlancheNeige said:

While making gifs for this show on tumblr, I also came to the realization that his expressions are sometimes so subtle that they are barely noticable anymore when viewed in such a small format

 

LOL :joy:

 

On 10/28/2019 at 4:12 AM, BlancheNeige said:

I've seen the show 4 times by now and I still find new stuff every time I revisit a scene. Just recently I did some analysis of some of the symbolic clues in some of the scenes and I had some completely new realizations. That's really a sign for the quality of the show.

 

What analysis? What clues? Tell us all. I'm dying to hear about those!

 

On 10/27/2019 at 9:03 PM, rubie said:

Reading Kdrama news mentioning series coming back with Season 2 makes me sigh for Mr Sunshine. Obviously it will never happen (even if the cast declines at first, they can change their minds) but with that ending.. the possibility is totally impossible. :tears: 

 

Maybe some kind of reincarnation like in Chicago Typewriter where they have fragmented memory of the previous life. Anything is possible as long as our writer wants it to be. But I doubt she does.

 

She shot a bullet to our hearts with that ending :tears: and I don't think she would ever take it out. Right now she's probably enjoying the fact that we cannot get over Mr Sunshine even after a year, and maybe many more years to come LOL

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I happened to see a blog post about Mr Sunshine today (It seems Google recognizes me as a Sunshiners and puts this to my daily news suggestions :tongue:)

 

"In today’s Western world where romance has been reduced to flirting-with-then- falling-into-bed with someone, the polite bonding rituals here might seem old-fashioned. But this is 1902: Different rules apply, and restraint is in order. We are given the chance to become reacquainted with the courtships of yore, the realms of Jane Austen, or even Kar-Wai Wong’s In the Mood for Love. The dialogue is spare, the silences vast, the euphemisms copious as we strain to read between the lines or listen to the silences. Eun-sook Kim’s elliptical dialogue is so refined, so suggestive, so sensitively filigreed, that Austen’s dialogue between Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth seems crudely literal by comparison. As we lean into the sweet nothings and somethings of intense romantic communication between two might-be lovers, the hormone oxytocin fairly oozes from the pixels on the screen as we find ourselves falling in love again—with falling in love."

 

Read the full post here: The Intoxicating Radiance Of Mr. Sunshine: What Hollywood Could Learn From A South Korean TV Series (By BROOKS RILEY)

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On 10/28/2019 at 5:06 PM, rubie said:

You are absolutely right about Eugene being expressive with Kyle.. he was rather chummy with him, too. That's a strong bond they had.. each would definitely fight & die for the other. Indeed some people thought Eugene was supposedly non-expressive persona with everyone.. they're just being selective, not attentive and never happy that he's the lead who got the girl. no2.gif

 

Please continue to write and share anything about Mr Sunshine here. It's so good to keep the drama-talk going. The crowd may have left the room but the door is always open. :lol: If you've watched other LBH dramas or movies, the threads are readily available or simply drop by at Lee Byung Hun thread where we'd share & talk about everything.

 

 

Thanks, I'll definitely stop by at the LBH thread at some point and will try to take part of the discussions going on here. It's always interesting to read the perspective of other people ... I mean most of the time:lol:

 

 

On 10/29/2019 at 4:41 PM, freeze said:

 

Same here :D I don't want good details to be missed out so I made a lot of efforts to explain things to her but she seems to only care about the overall plot.

 

 

LOL :joy:

 

 

What analysis? What clues? Tell us all. I'm dying to hear about those!

 

Oh god, same here. I also tried to watch it with a friend once. She claimed that she loves it but she was on her phone half the time, so 90% of the nuances were lost on her. That was so frustrating. Well, guess not everyone can appreciate good art lol

 

Oh well, I wrote some analysis on my tumblr blog. But I have to warn you, they are super long lol. If you are interested despite that, you can find two of them here and here. I have a few middle length ones on my blog as well but I'm mostly posting shorter ones on my twitter account now (in other words, I have no life lol But it's not my fault that there is so much to analyse about this show:lol:)

 

On 10/30/2019 at 5:16 AM, freeze said:

I happened to see a blog post about Mr Sunshine today (It seems Google recognizes me as a Sunshiners and puts this to my daily news suggestions :tongue:)

 

"In today’s Western world where romance has been reduced to flirting-with-then- falling-into-bed with someone, the polite bonding rituals here might seem old-fashioned. But this is 1902: Different rules apply, and restraint is in order. We are given the chance to become reacquainted with the courtships of yore, the realms of Jane Austen, or even Kar-Wai Wong’s In the Mood for Love. The dialogue is spare, the silences vast, the euphemisms copious as we strain to read between the lines or listen to the silences. Eun-sook Kim’s elliptical dialogue is so refined, so suggestive, so sensitively filigreed, that Austen’s dialogue between Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth seems crudely literal by comparison. As we lean into the sweet nothings and somethings of intense romantic communication between two might-be lovers, the hormone oxytocin fairly oozes from the pixels on the screen as we find ourselves falling in love again—with falling in love."

 

Read the full post here: The Intoxicating Radiance Of Mr. Sunshine: What Hollywood Could Learn From A South Korean TV Series (By BROOKS RILEY)

 

Omg I absolutely love this essay. It just perfectly puts in words everything I love about this show. As a classic literature geek myself, I found myself reminded of so many great element from classics while watching the show. It's so rare that stories get told like that anymore. Love the special mention of the dialogue. There are many writers/directors who are able to write good and realistic dialogue (not a fan, but Tarantino for example is a master of dialogue) but in this show the dialogue really becomes a form of art itself. I love almost all aspects of this show, but if I had to pick one thing that stands out the most, I would probably pick the dialogue. I've been learning about storytelling and writing for some years now, but I've never seen anything like this before and was never aware that dialogue could be used in this way. Her reliance on certain words and phrases to create vivid images in the viewers head and strengthen different meanings and themes is really admirable and inspirational. 

Anyway, thanks so much for sharing this with us!

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On 10/31/2019 at 11:52 PM, BlancheNeige said:

Oh well, I wrote some analysis on my tumblr blog. But I have to warn you, they are super long lol. If you are interested despite that, you can find two of them here and here. I have a few middle length ones on my blog as well but I'm mostly posting shorter ones on my twitter account now (in other words, I have no life lol But it's not my fault that there is so much to analyse about this show:lol:)

 

I read the post about symbolism. What an amazing analysis you have there! I will read the other one soon. Those are surely lengthy but I don't mind.

 

I love your analysis of Ae Shin jumping of the wall here. That scene is one of my most favorites of this series that I watched again and again. Eugene walks away in sadness knowing that he would never get the approval from Lord Go and ahead of them is longing and pain, then his woman chases after him and for a moment, makes his heart warm again.

 

This is where Ae Shins act of jumping over the wall to run after Eugene right after he got rejected by her Grandfather because of both his slave status and his American nationality becomes a far stronger meaning. It is in that moment that she finally decides to stand by his side, no matter if society want’s to dictate her otherwise. This is further empathized by Eugenes act of putting her shoe back on and beforehand intimately touching her foot (and her allowing him to do so). It is a clear sign from her side that social hierarchies don’t matter anymore, at least in the face of her grandfather.


** I find the scene of Eugene gently putting her shoe back on the one he's most handsome LOL :D His eyes are full of surprise, delight and love. After all -- as he stated on the last episode 'I risk my life for that shoe of yours' -- this is the moment that marks his new stage in their relationship. He become fully devoted to Ae Shin afterwards with everything he has including his life.

 

I once read that Joseon woman (or maybe only noblewoman -- I don't remember) must not let men see their feet, or footwear and that's why in the tailor shop in early episodes, Ae Shin tries to cover her feet with her skirt when Eugene steps into the trying room. I could not find any resources to verify this; but if it is the case, Eugene putting Ae Shin's shoe back on and Ae Shin letting him do so act as an acknowledge of their places in each other's heart and that seems more intimate, romantic and meaningful to me than any kiss or marriage scene could be.

 

On 10/31/2019 at 11:52 PM, BlancheNeige said:

Omg I absolutely love this essay. It just perfectly puts in words everything I love about this show. As a classic literature geek myself, I found myself reminded of so many great element from classics while watching the show. It's so rare that stories get told like that anymore. Love the special mention of the dialogue. There are many writers/directors who are able to write good and realistic dialogue (not a fan, but Tarantino for example is a master of dialogue) but in this show the dialogue really becomes a form of art itself. I love almost all aspects of this show, but if I had to pick one thing that stands out the most, I would probably pick the dialogue. I've been learning about storytelling and writing for some years now, but I've never seen anything like this before and was never aware that dialogue could be used in this way. Her reliance on certain words and phrases to create vivid images in the viewers head and strengthen different meanings and themes is really admirable and inspirational. 

Anyway, thanks so much for sharing this with us!

 

I love it as much as you do. It describe perfectly what I feel but unable to put into words myself. It's great to hear such deep and detailed analysis more than one year after the series ended, and even greater to know that the series makes it way to a blog of thoughtful writers where TV series is not even the main focus.

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On 11/3/2019 at 6:38 PM, freeze said:

 

I read the post about symbolism. What an amazing analysis you have there! I will read the other one soon. Those are surely lengthy but I don't mind.

 

I love your analysis of Ae Shin jumping of the wall here. That scene is one of my most favorites of this series that I watched again and again. Eugene walks away in sadness knowing that he would never get the approval from Lord Go and ahead of them is longing and pain, then his woman chases after him and for a moment, makes his heart warm again.

 

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it:) I'm a total nerd for symbolism and leitmotivs, so this show really is a dream come true for me. Hard to find anything like that anymore sadly:/

 

I love that scene as well! I'm still amazed every time I watch it how it doesn't come across as totally cheesy romance kitsch. There is a really fine line there but it never crosses it, probably because the emotions are so deep, honest and heartfelt. I've felt especially bad for Eugene in that moment, being rejected by her grandfather for his American nationality AND his former slave status (and as you've said knowing that this would make them being together even more impossible than it already was) and then being told by Ae Shin to leave, thinking she really wanted him to go. The relive and surprise on his face when he saw her running after him gets me every time.

 

On 11/3/2019 at 6:38 PM, freeze said:

** I find the scene of Eugene gently putting her shoe back on the one he's most handsome LOL :D His eyes are full of surprise, delight and love. After all -- as he stated on the last episode 'I risk my life for that shoe of yours' -- this is the moment that marks his new stage in their relationship. He become fully devoted to Ae Shin afterwards with everything he has including his life.

 

I once read that Joseon woman (or maybe only noblewoman -- I don't remember) must not let men see their feet, or footwear and that's why in the tailor shop in early episodes, Ae Shin tries to cover her feet with her skirt when Eugene steps into the trying room. I could not find any resources to verify this; but if it is the case, Eugene putting Ae Shin's shoe back on and Ae Shin letting him do so act as an acknowledge of their places in each other's heart and that seems more intimate, romantic and meaningful to me than any kiss or marriage scene could be.

 

Hard to say when Eugene is at his most handsome lol But the light in this scene really makes him look especially beautiful (as does the love and delight that is so clearly to see in his eyes. His expression is so open and vulnerable in that moment).

As far as I know, only servants and a husband was allowed to touch a woman's feet (so this probably was more a rule for noblewoman) so this scene has a strong double meaning for me (there was a very similar thing in victorian and edwardian era england were it was absolutely scandalous for a woman to bare her ankles, so it doesn't sound far fetched at all) For one, I would say from Eugenes side it is an act of devotion and servitude to the woman he loves and Ae Shin not rejecting him touching her feet (I love how they so clearly focus on him cleaning her foot beforehand) and putting her shoe back on could be seen as a sign that in her heart, s

he already accepted him as her rightful husband. It is a really tender and incredible intimate moment that shows both of them being completely vulnerable with each other and as you've said, no kiss could ever have the same weight as that for me.

 

On 11/3/2019 at 6:38 PM, freeze said:

I love it as much as you do. It describe perfectly what I feel but unable to put into words myself. It's great to hear such deep and detailed analysis more than one year after the series ended, and even greater to know that the series makes it way to a blog of thoughtful writers where TV series is not even the main focus.

 

True! The writer clearly has a vast knowledge about about literature and the arts in general. I've also noticed that Mr. Sunshine is heavily influenced by the classics and a combination of how stories were told back then, but presented in a slightly modernized package (and is also able to go into much more depth in it's creation of characters since we have a much broader understanding of psychology today). It's the kind of story that probably would have been a classic for century's to come, had it been written 100-200 years ago, kinda like Les Miserables and War and Peace. This thoughtful review really brings that across as well.

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We miss you, too... when will we #SeeYouAgain

 

Thank you for the GIF and clip mrs.jpg

 

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On 11/5/2019 at 11:20 PM, rubie said:

We miss you, too... when will we #SeeYouAgain

 

Thank you for the GIF and clip mrs.jpg

 

I like that Eugene kept (proudly) telling people they are married :D And he did in 3 different languages in the span of 1 episode.

 

They were really having their good time in Japan regardless of the chaos.

 

Taking a photo together

 

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Running towards the fireworks, hands in hands

 

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Spending the night together

 

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The reckless man was wildly happy

 

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In Eugene mind, this might look just like a honeymoon to him. Or should I say, a picnic.

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