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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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21 minutes ago, nichiwoohee said:

 

Yes I agree.. yingbao is definitely live up to her immense popularity. Imo mostly c actors/actresses are popular with huge following but subpar (even below subpar, even tho I do like them) acting. But I can say yingbao is good. Maybe not the best, but at least you dont see her over acting or being wooden

 

her best acting is yet to come in this drama, maiden minglan is subdued, wait until she becomes Marchioness Gu and unleash her potential

 

OT, but personally for me, yingbao’s best character is as yin xinyue in the mystic nine. Like how the saying goes “dying is easy, comedy is hard” she really stole every scene she was in

 

 

I watched the drama (mystic nine) just the zly's part. Ha ha. She was only a comeo in the drama but she stole the limelight anf brought herself best actress award. 

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On the matter when Hualan told Molan why the Duchess picked Ming Lan over Molan is due to their character. Even the Duchess said that Ming Lan will never get herself in such a predicament. Duchess said that Molan is a "fox".

 

Molan's mother entered the Sheng's household after getting herself pregnant while Ming Lan entered the Sheng household as a maiden who need to.pay off a family financial debt so there is a difference in morals of the two concubines.

 

I cannot wait for the bubble to burst on Molan about her aspirations to marry into a noble family. Marrying into such family is not an end but the very begining of a lifetime of suffering.

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About rulan, she just a lazy, spoiled girl. Have an 'i don' t care attitude' because everything is easy for her. Still immature and have no ambition at all. That's why she can only be a supporting character. Ha ha. :lol:For molan, she us ambitious and eventhough the way she went for her ambitious is vile, at least she'd fought for her happiness and future. B)

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4 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

I concurred and that’s what I have been commenting in my previous posts (even wrote long pointing out out of logic scenes) that I was a bit disappointed in drama writing for being inconsistent with main theme/ logic of the story of “how tough the life of the women those days and worse if they’re are Shu daughter”.

 

Your argument is not logical. Molan was a shu daughter and she probably had the best childhood in that house. Minglan had an enviable upbringing by her grandmother's side. Shu daughters were disadvantaged when it came to marital and financial matters but their lives were not necessarily 'tough'.

 

Its not a historical drama but a slice of life 'character' drama based on a lightnovel (not historic facts), showing us how the characters are shaped by the sum of their experiences.

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36 minutes ago, Jackie1048 said:

On the matter when Hualan told Molan why the Duchess picked Ming Lan over Molan is due to their character. Even the Duchess said that Ming Lan will never get herself in such a predicament. Duchess said that Molan is a "fox".

 

Its karma that Concubine Lin's moral conduct blocked her daughter's marital chances.

 

The getting prego to enter the household only worked because she was a relative of Old Madam and it was an internal issue, so she got away with it. The entire circle probably knows how she disrupted the household.  Sins of the mother..

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53 minutes ago, Jackie1048 said:

On the matter when Hualan told Molan why the Duchess picked Ming Lan over Molan is due to their character. Even the Duchess said that Ming Lan will never get herself in such a predicament. Duchess said that Molan is a "fox".

 

Molan's mother entered the Sheng's household after getting herself pregnant while Ming Lan entered the Sheng household as a maiden who need to.pay off a family financial debt so there is a difference in morals of the two concubines.

 

I cannot wait for the bubble to burst on Molan about her aspirations to marry into a noble family. Marrying into such family is not an end but the very begining of a lifetime of suffering.

I think Molan doesn't think that marriage is the beginning of lifetime suffering (or happiness), she just don't want to lose to ML (and RL), she doesn't like Liang's 6th son but her only focus is how to get into Liang's family so she can win and her sibling will bow to her because of her new status.

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After the satisfaction of Concubine Lin and Molan's downfall, I will now await GTY's stepmother's downfall. Something about that woman's two-facedness gets me even more than the other women in the show. Grrrrr it annoys me that she's living such a lux life now, throwing parties here and there.

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11 hours ago, mooose said:

 

Its karma that Concubine Lin's moral conduct blocked her daughter's marital chances.

 

The getting prego to enter the household only worked because she was a relative of Old Madam and it was an internal issue, so she got away with it. The entire circle probably knows how she disrupted the household.  Sins of the mother..

"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree" Lin's children's moral are very much the same like hers :skull:

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6 hours ago, cheekychipmunk_stv said:

 

The Dr He seems like a good fit for ML just like QH. They will have a very normal peaceful marriage if he didn't have a cousin crushing on him. Did Dr He reciprocated his cousin's feeling's too? He looks a bit like QH too.

 

 

6 hours ago, m0us3y said:

I don't mind Dr.He too. Like granny said he's very submissive. I like that he just does whatever ML asks him to, including going into the brothel! :D

 

Sorry for cutting your posts.

Dr He was a good fit for ML in every way she wanted. His family was small and peaceful. He had no ambitions other than practicing medicine and being a good doctor. But his biggest flaw was his soft heart, which became obvious when his cousin came to the capital with intentions and he didn't deal with her fast enough. He pitied his cousin as she was a widow/divorced....and couldn't have children...which was revealed later. Thats why she shamelessly threw herself on Dr He. As he was her only option to have a good life in the future.  ML was about to give in and accept her as a concubine when GTY's proposal for Rulan came and turned the whole Sheng house upside down. 

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2 minutes ago, dito said:

 

 

Sorry for cutting your posts.

Dr He was a good fit for ML in every way she wanted. His family was small and peaceful. He has no other ambitions than practicing medicine and being a good doctor. But his biggest flaw was his soft heart, which became obvious when his cousin came to the capital with intentions and he didn't deal with her fast enough. He pitied his cousin as she was a widow/divorced....and couldn't have children...which was revealed later. Thats why she shamelessly threw herself on Dr He. As he was her only option to have a good life in the future.  ML was about to give in and accept her as a concubine when GTY's proposal for Rulan came and turned the whole Sheng house upside down. 

Is that in the novel? Or the show? Proposal already?? :o

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55 minutes ago, leeza77 said:

About rulan, she just a lazy, spoiled girl. Have an 'i don' t care attitude' because everything is easy for her. Still immature and have no ambition at all. That's why she can only be a supporting character. Ha ha. :lol:For molan, she us ambitious and eventhough the way she went for her ambitious is vile, at least she'd fought for her happiness and future. B)

It's good that their character's are like that, if not, the title become "The Story of Minglan, Rulan, Molan, QH and GTY" :tounge_wink::joy:

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8 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

I think Molan doesn't think that marriage is the beginning of lifetime suffering (or happiness), she just don't want to lose to ML (and RL), she doesn't like Liang's 6th son but her only focus is how to get into Liang's family so she can win and her sibling will bow to her because of her new status.

 

Lin niang had the love and attention of her husband but she wanted to climb higher and have more power than the main wife. So she schemed, seduced, and connived all her life in that house. And taught her daughter to do the same to get /snatch whatever she wants from anyone.  

I don't think she'll ever be happy or content in her chosen life. People like Molan and her mother are never satisfied with what they have. They are always greedy for more.

 

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Sure Molan is ambitious and fought for what she wanted. But it’s not something admirable and without merit.

 

Correct me if I’m wrong someone mentioned that Rulan was caught by GTY stepmom with her lover and that’s how it caused an uproar. How did that play out? Why would GTY stepmom even be involved in his marriage when he completely cut off ties with the Gu household. Unless it was someone else from Sheng household or it was GTY nanny.

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12 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

Is that in the novel? Or the show? Proposal already?? :o

Sorry ...forgot to add ...in the novel. The drama is looking like they changed the whole thing and removed the cousin. Not sure yet.

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1 hour ago, leeza77 said:

I watched the drama (mystic nine) just the zly's part. Ha ha. She was only a comeo in the drama but she stole the limelight anf brought herself best actress award. 

 

I burst out laughing everytime she came on, natural as if she’s a comedy actress

 

18 minutes ago, tomo74 said:

I think Molan doesn't think that marriage is the beginning of lifetime suffering (or happiness), she just don't want to lose to ML (and RL), she doesn't like Liang's 6th son but her only focus is how to get into Liang's family so she can win and her sibling will bow to her because of her new status.

 

Pity that she will ultimately bow to minglan the future marchioness Gu :lol:

 

I cant believe we still havent got any lovey dovey scenes between the two leads yet :sweatingbullets: drama better repay us twice the romance after the wedding!

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11 minutes ago, cherubstomato said:

Sure Molan is ambitious and fought for what she wanted. But it’s not something admirable and without merit.

 

Correct me if I’m wrong someone mentioned that Rulan was caught by GTY stepmom with her lover and that’s how it caused an uproar. How did that play out? Why would GTY stepmom even be involved in his marriage when he completely cut off ties with the Gu household. Unless it was someone else from Sheng household or it was GTY nanny.

 

In the book, GTY maintained a polite relationship with his family after he came back. The drama actually went extreme in the family throwing him out and all. GTY's stepmom was involved in catching Rulan coz GTY convinced her to go to the temple to pray or something. Just like ML convinced Rulan to send Da Niang to pray which was actually a scheme to catch Molan. GTY and ML's wedding actually happened in the Gu house....coz the stepmom wanted GTY to marry there. Maybe after he came back successful she wanted to show she's forgiven him and was being a good mother. Maybe the drama will change it.

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Pffft GTY stepmom is something.... I guess GTY will use his stepmom just to get what he wants and after that it’s pay back. Since family is important for marriage arrangements. 

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1 hour ago, cherubstomato said:

Pffft GTY stepmom is something.... I guess GTY will use his stepmom just to get what he wants and after that it’s pay back. Since family is important for marriage arrangements. 

I wonder now if his family gets involved in his fall from grace. So the payback is the very end since I hope the end is happy for them in personal life and political life.

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8 hours ago, mooose said:

 

Your argument is not logical. Molan was a shu daughter and she probably had the best childhood in that house. Minglan had an enviable upbringing by her grandmother's side. Shu daughters were disadvantaged when it came to marital and financial matters but their lives were not necessarily 'tough'.

 

Its not a historical drama but a slice of life 'character' drama based on a lightnovel (not historic facts), showing us how the characters are shaped by the sum of their experiences.

 

I never said that it was goldenflower who did ;p 

7 hours ago, Maria Brimstone said:

After the satisfaction of Concubine Lin and Molan's downfall, I will now await GTY's stepmother's downfall. Something about that woman's two-facedness gets me even more than the other women in the show. Grrrrr it annoys me that she's living such a lux life now, throwing parties here and there.

 

Totally agree when will this lady get what she deserves.

 

7 hours ago, dito said:

 

 

Sorry for cutting your posts.

Dr He was a good fit for ML in every way she wanted. His family was small and peaceful. He had no ambitions other than practicing medicine and being a good doctor. But his biggest flaw was his soft heart, which became obvious when his cousin came to the capital with intentions and he didn't deal with her fast enough. He pitied his cousin as she was a widow/divorced....and couldn't have children...which was revealed later. Thats why she shamelessly threw herself on Dr He. As he was her only option to have a good life in the future.  ML was about to give in and accept her as a concubine when GTY's proposal for Rulan came and turned the whole Sheng house upside down. 

 

7 hours ago, dito said:

Sorry ...forgot to add ...in the novel. The drama is looking like they changed the whole thing and removed the cousin. Not sure yet.

 

Not a big fan of this cousin character so would not mind if it was cut and back then people cared about heir's so if she could not have children im surprised even though Dr He is nice, he would go with her or he does not know yet?

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28 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

I never said that it was goldenflower who did ;p 

 

Totally agree when will this lady get what she deserves.

 

 

 

Not a big fan of this cousin character so would not mind if it was cut and back then people cared about airs so if she could not have children im surprised even though how nice Dr He was he would go with her or he does not know yet?

Spoiler

Unfortunately the cousin existed in the drama. Just saw the trailerB)

 

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