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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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After watching interactions between QH and ML,,,I dunno if its only me, but I dont feel anything on them, like having a SLS...maybe bcoz Im so eager to watch her interaction with GTY:tounge_xd: ep 14 is just so funny:grin:...

I just read the above interview,,and I knew it that this drama can be reflected into real life..I mange to watch everything without fastforwarding eventhough some ep's got me sleepy...(Coz I watch these around 9pm though:tounge_xd:)...bcoz I want to understand everything without missing anything, that's why when Im watching it raw,my eyes is focusing on each charcters face..I want to see their emotions...verry well...and while I watch it with sub; my eyes is on the sub:D.

Some viewers/commentors that this drama is very slow, but for me its ok.

Some also out there insisting that This drama is an Idol drama...(like what the eck:rolleyes:do they have a common sence?)..

Ok thats it for now..untill the next ep..

And congratulations for breaking 1% rating for the latest ep..jia you...

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Oh my god the end of episode 14 was hilarious due to all the crying and then sad due to minister asking if any would follow him what a good scene. 

43 minutes ago, heatherbee said:

After watching interactions between QH and ML,,,I dunno if its only me, but I dont feel anything on them, like having a SLS...maybe bcoz Im so eager to watch her interaction with GTY:tounge_xd: ep 14 is just so funny:grin:...

I just read the above interview,,and I knew it that this drama can be reflected into real life..I mange to watch everything without fastforwarding eventhough some ep's got me sleepy...(Coz I watch these around 9pm though:tounge_xd:)...bcoz I want to understand everything without missing anything, that's why when Im watching it raw,my eyes is focusing on each charcters face..I want to see their emotions...verry well...and while I watch it with sub; my eyes is on the sub:D.

Some viewers/commentors that this drama is very slow, but for me its ok.

Some also out there insisting that This drama is an Idol drama...(like what the eck:rolleyes:do they have a common sence?)..

Ok thats it for now..untill the next ep..

And congratulations for breaking 1% rating for the latest ep..jia you...

 

I think if we all knew nothing of ML and GTY we would feel something its because we already know they married and child on the way etc.. 

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I like what the director said about wanting the viewers to feel like they are in the setting of the drama and that time period. You get that feeling a lot and you can feel all the characters. I watch the episodes raw and subbed because I don’t want to miss the little nuances a phrases here and there that gives away how the characters’ hidden thoughts. I don’t think the supporting cast is overshadowing the main cast at all since this is all a build up to ML and GTY’s character growth. No SLS for me because even though GH is handsome and sweet, he’s too naive. He’s the quintessential carefree noble heir so there’s nothing too special about the character for me other than that he’s caring to ML and that they did awesome picking ZYL (good looks and good acting).  He always gets everything he wants so not getting to be with ML is going to be the life obstacle the he must overcome.  If ML were allowed to be with him, she wouldn’t be able to be herself because her true character would overshadow GH. 

I think the audience’s reaction to GTY is as expected since most people want the pure knight in shining armor main lead (like GH) so it’s hard for them to handle GTY’s character. In a lot of dramas, you get a clean male lead because even if the female antagonist claims he slept with her and got her pregnant but it’s all usually a lie by the female antagonist. This ones different and realistic. The male lead was tricked but they had a relationship with consequences that he is taking responsibility for. 

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Did GH try to make a promise in the ancestor hall in ep 17?? Watching it raw so I’m not understanding everything.  If so, the character contrasts between GH and GTY is clear in this drama when you compare GH trying to make a promise at the ancestor hall to the pledge GTY made in the previews. One has a lot of power behind it and one doesn’t.

 

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2 hours ago, dito said:

 

Oh man... chinese viewers sound like total fuss pots. Criticizing the grammer, FSF...character is not likeable? (didn't get it) and ZLY??? And the support cast is over shadowing them?? Heavens....give them a break. The drama is 70+ episodes.....its still laying the groundwork for the important developments in the lead characters life....the turning points for them still to come.

I just recently said that the drama is moving faster than I expected.....there are a lot of story threads bound together with the leads....the story does not belong to just ML, GTY and QH..... 

ZYL and FSF and in general every popular actor has alot of anti just ignore that crap.

 

I do get what they are saying though the support cast is over shadowing them currently but its building up. 

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2 hours ago, hello210 said:

I like what the director said about wanting the viewers to feel like they are in the setting of the drama and that time period. You get that feeling a lot and you can feel all the characters. I watch the episodes raw and subbed because I don’t want to miss the little nuances a phrases here and there that gives away how the characters’ hidden thoughts. I don’t think the supporting cast is overshadowing the main cast at all since this is all a build up to ML and GTY’s character growth. No SLS for me because even though GH is handsome and sweet, he’s too naive. He’s the quintessential carefree noble heir so there’s nothing too special about the character for me other than that he’s caring to ML and that they did awesome picking ZYL (good looks and good acting).  He always gets everything he wants so not getting to be with ML is going to be the life obstacle the he must overcome.  If ML were allowed to be with him, she wouldn’t be able to be herself because her true character would overshadow GH. 

I think the audience’s reaction to GTY is as expected since most people want the pure knight in shining armor main lead (like GH) so it’s hard for them to handle GTY’s character. In a lot of dramas, you get a clean male lead because even if the female antagonist claims he slept with her and got her pregnant but it’s all usually a lie by the female antagonist. This ones different and realistic. The male lead was tricked but they had a relationship with consequences that he is taking responsibility for. 

 

I also liked that the director put a lot of thought and effort in framing a scene and filming it. Like he said he kept the cameras far away so that the actors felt they were having real conversations and not get distracted by the cameras. Sometimes the actors didn't even know where the cameras were. He also encouraged them not to follow the script blindly, to improvise and go with their feelings when saying their lines....thats one of the reason why the scenes feel so real. 

He also said something else I liked...that GTY was introduced in the novel very late but in the drama he's present from the start..because he wanted to show that the fate of these 2 characters is entwined together.

I also watch the raw episodes first,  both web and TV version and then binge 4-5 subbed epis together.

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   @dito That sounds like a good strategy but I can’t seem to control myself when I see an episode fully subbed. 

 

@ForgottenSoulx  I Gifed the ending scene with all three woman crying to Sheng Hong. Fist I GIF Big Madam’s reaction to when je ask her if she was A Lon shark. It was so hilarious. I loved it to pieces so I had have that scene in my computer . Lol lol 

 

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4 hours ago, hello210 said:

I like what the director said about wanting the viewers to feel like they are in the setting of the drama and that time period. You get that feeling a lot and you can feel all the characters. I watch the episodes raw and subbed because I don’t want to miss the little nuances a phrases here and there that gives away how the characters’ hidden thoughts. I don’t think the supporting cast is overshadowing the main cast at all since this is all a build up to ML and GTY’s character growth. No SLS for me because even though GH is handsome and sweet, he’s too naive. He’s the quintessential carefree noble heir so there’s nothing too special about the character for me other than that he’s caring to ML and that they did awesome picking ZYL (good looks and good acting).  He always gets everything he wants so not getting to be with ML is going to be the life obstacle the he must overcome.  If ML were allowed to be with him, she wouldn’t be able to be herself because her true character would overshadow GH. 

I think the audience’s reaction to GTY is as expected since most people want the pure knight in shining armor main lead (like GH) so it’s hard for them to handle GTY’s character. In a lot of dramas, you get a clean male lead because even if the female antagonist claims he slept with her and got her pregnant but it’s all usually a lie by the female antagonist. This ones different and realistic. The male lead was tricked but they had a relationship with consequences that he is taking responsibility for. 

 

I like GTY a lot to be honest. I feel bad for his circumstances and he seems like a great guy just misunderstood.

 

GH is sweet but lacks backbone imo.

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56 minutes ago, mrsyooknit said:

 

I like GTY a lot to be honest. I feel bad for his circumstances and he seems like a great guy just misunderstood.

 

GH is sweet but lacks backbone imo.

Yeah, GTY’s character hooked me from the beginning with the pitch-pot challenge and how he helped Xiao ML with getting the doctor. Kid had to fight the servants...darn Concubine Lin. Loved it when ML was like 2nd Brother is with 2nd Uncle? Good...even if 2nd Brother doesn’t have the people, 2nd Uncle can handle it...and she said it without hesitation. 

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3 minutes ago, hello210 said:

 Loved it when ML was like 2nd Brother is with 2nd Uncle? Good...even if 2nd Brother doesn’t have the people, 2nd Uncle can handle it...and she said it without hesitation. 

I agree. It shows that even now she trusts him at a certain level.  

 

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51 minutes ago, fra8 said:

I agree. It shows that even now she trusts him at a certain level.  

 

@fra8..... She does trust him and knows he is smart. After all in the drama he helped get the physician to help her mom. 

11 hours ago, zenya22 said:

episode 14: Sheng Hong just found out that Big Madam is a loan shark and concubine is a thief and embezzler. Poor Minister Sheng

Sadly @zenya22 .... I knew the Sheng Hong is still a dumb man. He is still  spending the night with Concubine Li even knowing she isn’t trust worthy. But at least he doesn’t completely trust her now.

 

 

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I am so loving  episode 17.  Sheng Chang Feng was caught red handed talking to one of Ming Lan’s New maid. Ming Lan purposely made sure they got caught. Lol Lol  she is so smart.

 

I can’t believe that Sheng Hong punished Ming Lang. I also saw a shadow outside her room. I wonder will we ever find out who was there spying on her. 

 

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I also wonder will they ever let us see the (Fox) who lied to Gu Ting Yu. We never saw the persons face but I believe it is  LITTLE MDM QUIN (his ain’t), that little witch. She did a great job having the father hate the son. Every time she says good things about the son, it only makes the father hate him even more. I really wish the father would come to regret Hating his son ( accomplish). 

 

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Do I have it right??? Status of where these maids come from???? Damn these maids need to be put on a chain...... 

 

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I just watched Episode 17 where that shameless hussy came to Minglan's friend's house to cause a ruckus and causing her grandma to fall sick.  She was just so hateful and fake.  No shame at all and I am wondering how GTY did not see this.  I wish he could so he knows exactly what kind of person Man Niang is.  I feel like slapping her hard and she is even worst than Mo Lan.

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Manniang's true face will be exposed tonight. Can't wait to see manniang's performance tobextricste herself from ershu wrath. Lots and lots of groveling, more lies and do not forget crocodiles tears. B)

 

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Manniang's true face will be exposed tonight. Can't wait to see manniang's performance tobextricste herself from ershu wrath. Lots and lots of groveling, more lies and do not forget crocodiles tears. B)

 

Thanks for the info @leeza77

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Manniang's true face will be exposed tonight. Can't wait to see manniang's performance tobextricste herself from ershu wrath. Lots and lots of groveling, more lies and do not forget crocodiles tears. B)

 

omg really?! so he will know discover everything about her tonighttt? 

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6 minutes ago, bulubulu said:

omg really?! so he will know discover everything about her tonighttt? 

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First, ML told him about manniang visit to her friend house. Ohh.. During the fight with ML ershu said maybe i just marry you. And ML retorted i will not marry you eventhough i will become a nun. Maybe this the starting point where ershu thinking of marrying ML. (Notes: this dialoques were improvised by zly&fsf on the sport and it was better and more real than the original script) 

2nd, the nanny told him about manniang pawned her jewelleries. Then ershu confronted manniang. 

 

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1 minute ago, leeza77 said:
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First, ML told him about manniang visit to her friend house. 2nd, the nanny told him about manniang pawn her jewelleries. Then ershu confronted manniang. 

 

letsss goo Minglan and Nanny !! so when he confronted her, did she admit it then?  That will the scene where he said to Manniang that don't she only wanted to be his main wife?

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