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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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28 minutes ago, matrim said:

True, stepmom won't stop until all GTY's heirs are dead. My point is, after the divorce ML would return to Sheng Household and leave her son in GTY manor (I don't think she has the right to keep the son as he is the legitimate heir to GTY.). So it makes no sense for stepmom to go all out to kill ML as she is no longer Madam Gu and guardian of GTY's heir. As GTY's main concern is ML's safety, I reckon this is the best solution for GTY to keep ML out of harm's way.

And he's going to protect the heir? Ml returns to sheng.. Then the heir will be under stepmom control. Doesn't make sense. Stepmom will surely kill the heir. 

Then, what about ml's reputation. It will be destroyed if the divorce happens 

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4 hours ago, matrim said:

More proof that the emperor is not what he appears.

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The actor who played the emperor commented on wb "I swear to Chairman Mao (Chinese version of I swear to God) that the emperor is smart." :joy:

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Yeah. I think he did all that blustering about GTY to trick the Gueifei knowing that she’s been working for ED. The Who prison thing has to be part of a bigger plan. In that BTS, it looked like ML was also there on the sidelines with the Emperor and GTY.

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Auntie Kang's husband was not involved in the negotiation of the poison incident because if he knew he will divorce Auntie Kang for sure.

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14 hours ago, sava2sava said:

 

@dito  :w00t::w00t:  This has made my morning.. I'll start my day with a smile on my face.. Thanks.. Atleast the wife has more guts then he.. I don't think QH has ever held a sword not how to wield one.. 

 

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Where can i find this preview please?

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33 minutes ago, matrim said:

True, stepmom won't stop until all GTY's heirs are dead. My point is, after the divorce ML would return to Sheng Household and leave her son in GTY manor (I don't think she has the right to keep the son as he is the legitimate heir to GTY.). So it makes no sense for stepmom to go all out to kill ML as she is no longer Madam Gu and guardian of GTY's heir. As GTY's main concern is ML's safety, I reckon this is the best solution for GTY to keep ML out of harm's way.

 

To me, getting the title for Third was always a red herring as this was always more. She had almost 20 years when she could have gotten rid GTY and Eldest brother but she didn't. She was an unloved wife who resented the son of the woman he loved and the son he actually loved, but she knew their value. So she consoled herself by being 'Queen Bee' of the Gu household.

 

That soliloquy in the ancestral hall was revealing. What she resented was ML's assumption of power. If she gets rid of ML she gets back her Queen status and can twist the screws on GTY and son. She even wanted Eldest's widow to adopt just so she could be Queen again.

 

She knows her son is too stupid and talentless to run the family. Not only will they become a laughing stock, but he would probably quickly lose the title over something stupid. The title for Third was kind of a last resort. 

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24 minutes ago, leeza77 said:

And he's going to protect the heir? Ml returns to sheng.. Then the heir will be under stepmom control. Doesn't make sense. Stepmom will surely kill the heir. 

Then, what about ml's reputation. It will be destroyed if the divorce happens 

As GTY proposes amicable seperation, I think he must have thought through the consequences. Their son would be looked after by Chang Momo and Tu Erye in GTY manor, and maybe with the help from State Uncle Shen and Madam Zhang. They and stapmom live seperately and I see no reason for the heir to be controlled by her. As for ML's reputation, it's of secondary importance at the moment for the power struggle is reaching its climax and a life and death matter for those involved. The priority would be survival, anything else is not that important.   

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@matrim @leeza77 

I do wonder if stepmom was still the threat then though. Or were they dealing with someone bigger and more powerful, ie ED. 

If it's ED, she might want to rid her problem at its roots, ie. Getting rid of everyone in Gu household..

If so, the son would be implicated either way and there's probably no way he could escape. 

And it just became a case of trying to save who he can, Ming Lan. 

Because with amiable separation, she will no longer be a Gu, and even if his "Crime" was severe enough to implicate generations of the family, she would still be spared. 

 

Just my speculation. 

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I watched one preview that Molan was shocked that Ming Lan was able to give birth in a midst of a fire surrounding her. That is resilience, Miss Molan.

 

Auntie Kang's mother appealed to the Empress Dowager but I think it is for the second crime ... setting the Gu House on fire. Empress Dowager I doubt can help her.

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13 minutes ago, Jackie1048 said:

I watched one preview that Molan was shocked that Ming Lan was able to give birth in a midst of a fire surrounding her. That is resilience, Miss Molan.

 

Auntie Kang's mother appealed to the Empress Dowager but I think it is for the second crime ... setting the Gu House on fire. Empress Dowager I doubt can help her.

Old Madam Wang appealed to ED to punish GTY for he killed her daughter. ED's attitude was unfathomable as she only said I had lost all my children but you still got two.

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10 hours ago, frenchfan said:

I actually pitied SH main wife.  Being sold out by her own mother in other to protect auntie Kang.  It was sad when she discovered that her mum favors her elder sister and would happily let her shoulder the blame for the poisoning.  In fact Marquis Kang did not even come for the "hearing" and let his in-laws dealt with their family.  That just shows how much he value her.  You could see that Elder brother Kang and his wife have been suffering for years always covering for auntie Kang's misdeeds no doubt at Grandma Wang's command for she is very much the matriach and boss here.  

 

Of course I just love how GTY come to save his wifey......despite possible punishment from the emperor.  That is love.  He consoled her when she cried.  That part was so emotional. I am also happy to see Danju getting married in her finery.  It was even more eloborate than Molan's wedding LOL.  

 

The Sheng should have killed Linniang's maid when they had the chance.  YOu could see that Molan really wanted Minglan (her own sister) to die in childbirth in fire.  She is even worst than her mom.  Guess, you can't trust beautiful faces.   

 

 

But but.. her face is not even beautiful!!!!

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14 hours ago, frenchfan said:

The Sheng should have killed Linniang's maid when they had the chance.  YOu could see that Molan really wanted Minglan (her own sister) to die in childbirth in fire.  She is even worst than her mom.  Guess, you can't trust beautiful faces.   

@frenchfan  Of course she wanted her dead.. Molan is jealous of ML she had to see her downfall.. ML couldn't stand the fact that the elaborate life she thought to have would come from the count she married only to be disappointed that her younger sister is living the life she's supposed to live no matter whatever she do she could never outshine ML.. Molan never really saw Ming Lan has competition to her beauty and all the men she admired had a crush on ML.. I know her husbands mom have to be throwing in her face how much of a virtous women Ml is over her when all she do is probably begs for her husbands attention who by now probably not givig her the time of day.. Him being disappointed in the pretty package all wrap up nicely on the outside but not worth two nickles rub together.. I hope he finds out how evil and vicious her heart really is to wish her sister and child dead all because of her jealousy.. I see her heart becoming more evil then Evil Step Mom and Aunt Kang.. 

  

20 hours ago, dito said:

Lin niang's maid still kept in the Sheng house is biggest writing fail for me. Didn't SH order all of Lin niang's servants to be sold out? How come she's still around to cause trouble. Moreover, Da niang will never keep anyone loyal to Lin niang in her house. The writers were getting out of ideas it seems. 

@dito  This is what I didn't understand also. she should have been killed with the other two girls or the first one to be sold iout of the hime to the slave dealer. Keeping her there should have been a reminder for CL or Sh was looking at her to have to some strange on the side with no strings attach.. The is one of the biggest mistakes Danning could have made.. She should have gotten rid of CL servants..

 

20 hours ago, frenchfan said:

Ohhhhhhhhhh so much excitement!  So it seems like the Emperor was angry that GTY came home to save his wife from the fire and maniac who tried to kill her and the baby?  So he would have preferred GTY to first come to him and pay his respect while his house is being burned to the ground and the lives of his wife and son at peril??????? :rage:

I am so dissapointed with Molan.  I had hoped that she will turned a new leaf but nope.  She has to follow in her mom's footsteps.  Aie aie aie....no hope for her then.  I can only anticipate heavy downfall for her too!  

@frenchfan  I think after seeing how big the fire was she was a Lil disappointed that ML and her child wasn't dead.. What is going on with step mom son. ?

 

@USAFarmgirl  Hi Good seeing you here..

20 hours ago, frenchfan said:

Molan married to the 6th son of a marquis.  He himself is not a marquis although from a noble family.  Whereas GTY has been granted the marquisade of the family since his elder brother died without heir.  I believe it was also a title granted to him by the emperor himself so it irked her no end.  A "Shu" daughter married above her social status, someone rich and someone who truly cared for her well being. Minglan has also been granted a title by the Emperor so it is like rubbing salt into her wound.  :kiss_wink:

@frenchfan Molan always thought she would be placed in ML position.. ML name is a household item and the nobles go to woman when things happen.. Molan was never granted and audience with the ED or the Empress and before ML even married GTY she was at the polo match trying to shine to be noticed but ML stole that thunder to.. I think if she had known GTY personally setup that match just for ML she would have never went even step mom was there putting on airs only to paint her step son as some horrid man.. Did you notice the look on step mom face when the Empress bethored GTY the hair pin.. I guess she knew then there was no chunking salt behind his back would work the the Empress..

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14 hours ago, Sirry Usly said:

I know this is kind of harsh but I think point I kind of just want them to kill off Molan. I'm sick of her and I'm over it. 

@Sirry Usly  I tell you I don't miss her when they don't show her in any of the scenes..

 

11 hours ago, minglan1 said:

Big Madam's disappointment don't seem to stop.Neither her mom,son or husband are too perturbed for her feelings. All of SH's wives had a terrible ending.If only he had managed his household better, the ending might not have been so bitter.

@minglan1  CB said it well to GTY mnanage your house first before you try to handle things in court.. This is why I don't get why SH is standing himself up in court head held high to the sky like all is well..

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IMO, ep64 uncut is one of the most electrifying eps in the drama. The clash of words, swift change of plot directions and magnified personalities all keep you at the edge of your seat.

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Have to applaud Old Madam Wang, another master manipulator, whose silver tongue not only confused SH, but almost caused ML to lose ground. Had it not been CB's timely return, the result would have been quite different. Very glad CB's part was kept in the drama, definitely his highlight moment. Kudos to CB, Old Madam Wang, SH, Big Madam, Grandma, ML and GTY for their brilliant performance. :heart:

 

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I have a question. In one of the epis maybe 56/57 why did stepmom look scared/ worried when she found out that the eunuch her son was meeting was from ED's palace. I thought she would be happy to know she and ED have similar goals and would jump at the chance to suck up to ED by helping her.

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@dito Probably because one wrpng move can cost him his status or even his life. If ED is after GTY, she won't spare his relatives most likely, doesn't matter that they are against him. In those eras it was safer and better to pull the weed of by it roots.

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14 minutes ago, dito said:

I have a question. In one of the epis maybe 56/57 why did stepmom look scared/ worried when she found out that the eunuch her son was meeting was from ED's palace. I thought she would be happy to know she and ED have similar goals and would jump at the chance to suck up to ED by helping her.

No, eunuch Li whom GTW met was from emperor's palace. Stepmom wanted her son to realize that eunuch Li was also ED's pawn and what eunuch Li hinted at was GTW and stepmom to help ED frame GTY. But the stupid son didn't have a clue. Stepmom was worried because they had just missed a chance and had to wait more.  

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From zly's weibo. Her own experience, Pregnant woman really powerful. :D

 

 

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In the process of shooting, I think Minglan’s belly is running around. This is hanging up. Pregnant women can’t have such good physical strength. I have a fake belly. I’m tired and even talking, but the director said that pregnant women are very powerful. I can still run, ride a horse... I am half-confident, now, it’s really [嘻嘻]like walking like Minglan, so good.[嘻嘻]
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