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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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44 minutes ago, dito said:

 

Man I really really hope this is the reason for the punishment and not something that ED planned but planned by the emperor or Huan wang to out ED. Off to watch...

The sl of gty returning without permission granted was in the book and it was the first time ml got angry at him. But the Emperor didn’t know about this.

it’d make sense to spin it differently. But then the emperor should punish cb too. 

I am soooo confused. It could be a plan or it could be another strain in their relationship. I hope it’s a plan.

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2 minutes ago, matrim said:

http://t.cn/EctV7qR?m=4336819493325118&u=5103645868

http://t.cn/EctZwXn?m=4336810887048264&u=5103645868

New trailers. Molan and CL's maid help Aunt Kang to escape and it implies that she even gives a dagger to Aunt Kang to murder ML! :rage: Really can't believe my eyes! What a snake...

Hope molan will get her due.. She's really a snake. Like mother like daughter. 

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How much episodes left do we have? The countdown is nerve wrecking  :sweatingbullets:

 

I’m guessing the downfall wont be long after the birth of their son.. from the preview ml was chasing soldier gty while wearing a headband, with my amateur deduction skill, I conclude the women who wear them are unwell, just like ml and lady zhang after giving birth, also grandma everytime the shengs got into some problem.. or maybe just an accessory :lol:

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10 hours ago, jewelsc said:

I'm sorry, i don't usually support or condone when a woman is being assaulted by a man be it in that era or now but i couldn't help burst out laughing when aunt kang's husband slapped her across her face and i was like "yes..give her another one!!"  such a pity he only gave her 1 :crazy:

11 hours ago, leeza77 said:

Agreed. Ml during the confrontation with Danniang said that Auntie Kang made danniang poisoned grandma and auntie kang will use the secret to blackmail danniang into submitting to her wishes. If Danniang is unable to do so, then Danniang will ask that from CB and Hualan. The whole family will be at the mercy of auntie kang. Danniang was so shocked that it was never crossed her mind the extend of auntie kang evilness. Another blow to danniang is that her grandson is frequently at grandma courtyard. There was huge risk that the child would to be poisoned if grandma gave her the lotus cake that day. This risk has never been foresee by danniang, but not auntie kang. She just proceed with the plan as cb's child is not her grandson. Cruel. 

For that her death is the best. 

 

9 hours ago, m0us3y said:

And the way she deduced Aunt Kang's motives and actions, up to the point that she will use CB and RL's husband to get them to do her bidding..

@leeza77 & @m0us3y  I find it sad that Danning is so easly manipulated by Aunt Kang all because she was raised to be submissive to her and taught that Aunt Kang is better then her.. Danning always had in her mind to do good by Aunt Kang iut would help her get acceptance from her brother and mother.. Sadly enough afterall she had to do for Aunt Kang it never register in her mind because of the help that Mother and Brother gives to Aunt Kang that they are harming her more then helping her.. Even after the fact of her telling Aunt Kang that her and Sh are getting along well.. Just the change of attitude upon hearing this news should gave been warning signs for her..  aunt Kang biggest problem with ML is that no matter what she did ML wasn't going to allow her to just entered her home whenever she like to beg or find fault in something to manipulate and control her.. Aunt Kang got even more furious with every turn she makes ML had block her path just as Big Mdm was.. For these two women to have such a young girl to rip the masks right off there faces was so unacceptable they both had no other choice but to go out for the kill.. 

For SH to say to ML how did she become such as person, He would never understand in her case since young it was kill or be killed.. If CL had got any inkling that ML was on to her she would have killed ML also or sold her off to a brothel long time ago..

 

Well we can say she did learn something from Big Mdm barrowing another knife to kill.. A good wake up call for Danning use her son to stab and twist the knife

 

7 hours ago, hello210 said:

It was funny when QH flinched at GTY's bow....he thought GTY came to fight him.....and wth with QH's wife thinking her husband is a damsel in distress:lol:

@dito  :w00t::w00t:  This has made my morning.. I'll start my day with a smile on my face.. Thanks.. Atleast the wife has more guts then he.. I don't think QH has ever held a sword not how to wield one.. 

 

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7 minutes ago, nichiwoohee said:

How much episodes left do we have? The countdown is nerve wrecking  :sweatingbullets:

 

I’m guessing the downfall wont be long after the birth of their son.. from the preview ml was chasing soldier gty while wearing a headband, with my amateur deduction skill, I conclude the women who wear them are unwell, just like ml and lady zhang after giving birth, also grandma everytime the shengs got into some problem.. or maybe just an accessory :lol:

12 episodes of TV version, 11 episodes of uncut version.

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6 hours ago, UnniSarah said:

Hello chingu

I do love the Empress but there was a scene where I think she intentionally hurt ML by telling her about Prince Huan faced two assassination attempt and her husband saved her son. ML reaction was on point but I wondered if the Empress facial reaction was of guilt or glee to hurt ML because ML told her that she has to fix the problem because it began with her. 

@UnniSarah  I don't think she did this to hurt ML. I'm sure she knew ML hadn't heard any news of what was going on with her husband being with the prince.. I think she told ML first before others would tell her and add they version to it to cause ML to worry that could eventually hurt her child.. I think it was he way to protect ML in return for telling her how to please everyone around and still keep the marriage aliences with the families..

I think if the ED knew ML gave the Empress this idea and out a stop to her gaining more power she would also go after ML regardkess to if she was pregnat or not..

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The emperor is really poisoned by the consort. 

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The new trailer shows that the emperor's rage towards gty for not reporting to him first, after coming back from his investigation of salt business. Emperor didn't even consider that if gty didn't come back on time to his manor, ml will be killed by kang auntie. Such an ungrateful man. Gty is his strongest supporter and the cleverest one. The one he can rely on, but he's listening to his evil consort. Guess, gty is demoted to ordinary soldier because of this. Very sad. A good loyal and talented supporter is treated like this by the emperor. 

 

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Omg crying yingbao is so adorable.. I feel bad thinking that way :vicx:

 

2 minutes ago, leeza77 said:

The emperor is really poisoned by the consort. 

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The new trailer shows that the emperor's rage towards gty for not reporting to him first, after coming back from his investigation of salt business. Emperor didn't even consider that if gty didn't come back on time to his manor, ml will be killed by kang auntie. Such an ungrateful man. Gty is his strongest supporter and the cleverest one. The one he can rely on, but he's listening to his evil consort. Guess, gty is demoted to ordinary soldier because of this. Very sad. A good loyal and talented supporter is treated like this by the emperor. 

 

 

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His son is more ruler material, you cant be an emperor and be a softie. It’s better for gty to be demoted with petty reason, that way his backers (prince huan, state uncle, the generals even duke ying) could still silently support him, rather than him guilty of capital offense

 

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1 hour ago, matrim said:

http://t.cn/Ec53fnZ?m=4336798451093941&u=1897410357

New trailer. GTY and CB's return to the capital is secret and not granted by the emperor. ML is shocked to hear this as it is a major offence. And the emperor knows it too. He gets angry and curses GTY, but at the end his meaningful side glance makes me wonder if he's been playing games all along.

I just guessed it before that maybe the crime GTY would've committed was coming to the city while on official mission for ML.. I never thought it would actually happen.. Omg I hope this is getting interesting 

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Who is this Tu Er Ye (the guy who guards the Sheng house during the poisoning, and who tortured the spy maid? He never mentioned or appeared before but from the trailer, he seems to be very important in the future? 

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2 minutes ago, shihuangdi said:

Who is this Tu Er Ye (the guy who guards the Sheng house during the poisoning, and who tortured the spy maid? He never mentioned or appeared before but from the trailer, he seems to be very important in the future? 

He is the head guard left by gty to guard ml. He appeared before accompanying ml when she went to her farmstead given by grandma. 

 

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3 hours ago, matrim said:

My suspicion too. Emperor's side has fallen into EP's traps time and again. The power game would be too one-sided and wearisome if GTY and Prince Huan continue to not anticipate ED's moves. I also hope he willingly enters the trap as a part of a bigger plan and uses it as a decoy to lure ED side come into the open. In the trailer when GTY talks to ML in prison, he says "Staying with me will be dangerous." and asks for a amicable seperation. I think he is not only referring to his stepmom but ED, who has long been aware of ML's ability as a strategist. I remember the scene when ED hears ML's influence on Madam Zhang and comments that both GTY and ML has become emperor's able hands. Even with GTY out of the way, ML can give advice to the empress and Madam Zhang if needed, so she still will be viewed as a threat by ED. With GTY's absence and nobody else to protect her, she could become an easy target for ED. The above reasoning is on the assumption that ML maintains her conferred title so as a influential noble madam may enter the palace. From this one may deduce that GTY's "crime" is not serious enough to cost him his title but only his position, so in this case the best way to protect ML when he's gone will be an amicable seperation, to pull ML out of the power struggle center. After their divorce, ML would become an ordinary official's daughter and will no longer have the chance to communicate with empress or Madam Zhang, therefore no longer a dangerous threat to ED. And as she is not Marquis Gu's wife any more, ML would be safe from GTY stepmom.  

@matrim  With ML birthing sons even if GTy is exield and they are divorce ML and her children would never be safe from step mom because to her eldest son down to the last son are all in line to gain the marquis title.. Once all of them is dead can the evil step mom gains what she's been after all along...

 

52 minutes ago, matrim said:

New trailers. Molan and CL's maid help Aunt Kang to escape and it implies that she even gives a dagger to Aunt Kang to murder ML! :rage: Really can't believe my eyes! What a snake...

@matrim  I believe it.. Molan is very jealous of ML and even after gaining all her dads attention as a child growing up in the Sheng house and marrying above her status.. Molan can't stand the fact that ML has gotten herself a title and shines brighter then she'll ever be.. Molan always saw herself in Ming Lan shoes wher all the nobles household women holds her in a very high position.. Even thou she married a Count her Count isn't no where near the Count Ming Lan has.. I think she kicking herself in the but because before her mom passed away she tried to get Molan to go after GTY which she refused because of his past.. Now her knowing that Ming Lan husband is a one womens man must be really infuriating her who husband got upteen concubines all bore him a son,, Now that Lil sister has bore the next Gu heir must really be upsetting her.. So yes even thou Aunt Kang did give her mom including herself a hard time.. I could see her using Aunt Kang to get back at Ml all because she won't allow CL plack to be placed in the monestary nor her enter the Sheng household registry.. So killing off ML is away to get what she wants.. Recognition for her Mom.. I'm also wondering has her husband Mom been questioning her about her Mom plack..  

 

29 minutes ago, Suzzy San said:

I just guessed it before that maybe the crime GTY would've committed was coming to the city while on official mission for ML.. I never thought it would actually happen.. Omg I hope this is getting interesting 

@Suzzy San  I'm thinking this also could be a plan from the very start to help pull ED out of power.. It's no way She and her family are not involved in the salt scandal and the high price of salt back then.. GTy could have taken himself out of the equatuon knowing that the info that was collected would directly in pact the ED who would go after him and his family to weaken the Emperor more.. GTY just happen to come along just in time to save wife and child from Aunt Kangs killing.. I hope they find out it was Molan that freed her and give her a good dose of medicine that she needed since childhood.. (preferrably a good spanking in front of her husband MIL and she can do no wrong father) 

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43 minutes ago, leeza77 said:

The emperor is really poisoned by the consort. 

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The new trailer shows that the emperor's rage towards gty for not reporting to him first, after coming back from his investigation of salt business. Emperor didn't even consider that if gty didn't come back on time to his manor, ml will be killed by kang auntie. Such an ungrateful man. Gty is his strongest supporter and the cleverest one. The one he can rely on, but he's listening to his evil consort. Guess, gty is demoted to ordinary soldier because of this. Very sad. A good loyal and talented supporter is treated like this by the emperor. 

 

Totally.

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I guess they add other accusations since I read ml said my husband was framed. Here he did it, he wasn’t  framed.  

I know according to the supposed behaviorof a general, he made a punishable offense. However I agree with what he did.

if he is demoted  because he saved her, ml will go even more nuclear against their enemies.

 

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I think I should stop watching previews. They're stressing me out with whats coming that I can't watch the episodes without getting tense. :cold_sweat:

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Lin niang's maid still kept in the Sheng house is biggest writing fail for me. Didn't SH order all of Lin niang's servants to be sold out? How come she's still around to cause trouble. Moreover, Da niang will never keep anyone loyal to Lin niang in her house. The writers were getting out of ideas it seems. 

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8 hours ago, tinast said:

Oww ic.. i don't remember her since it was a short appearance. Just a few episodes. An assassin

 

She was the Grand Princess in N1. 

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14 minutes ago, dito said:

Lin niang's maid still kept in the Sheng house is biggest writing fail for me. Didn't SH order all of Lin niang's servants to be sold out? How come she's still around to cause trouble. Moreover, Da niang will never keep anyone loyal to Lin niang in her house. The writers were getting out of ideas it seems. 

Sheng manor actually keep the servants from linniang courtyard. Supposed for a while (after molan's incident died down) and to be sold later. 

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