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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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56 minutes ago, dito said:

 

I think its Changfeng's baby daughter.

In the book she was asking him to beg their father to bring Lin niang back to see her grandchildren. (Not possible in the drama)

But Changfeng's wife was a very smart woman and kept him away from Molan's nasty tricks. As this was just a way to break the peace in the Sheng House. After Changfeng's daughter was born everybody thought CF would be disappointed with a girl child but he was actually very happy. The birth of this child actually mended relations between the siblings. The reason being Changfeng's daughter was the spitting image of Hualan. So Hualan and Minglan got attached to her. Because of this Changfeng's relationship with his other sisters got better. Molan hated that...and tried to sow discord between them...with this bring mommy back trick.

Thank you. I remember the Shengs were talking about Changfeng marriage potential back then, but I thought they didn't end up finding anyone. Glad he managed to find a great lady as his wife. I actually hope that Molan could become nicer after her mother's death, but looks like she is still out to create trouble. So in the novel, Linniang wasn't beaten to death?

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48 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

                             Gong Xi Fa Cai to everyone   

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@UnniSarah..Happy new year to you too and 

Happy New Year To All Our Friends Here.:D

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Little ML's efforts to save her mother were in vain.Life gave a 2nd chance to not let the same thing happen again to her most loved person in the world. Now she is a grown woman capable enough to fight and bring the perpetrators to justice.

Her actions can be termed unfilial.When one has been driven to the brink twice, procrastination on being filial is the last thing on your mind.

If Shen Hong's own mother had been poisoned would he still behave the way he did during this incident?

 

Just the memory of his concubine mother being ill treated led him to defy convention. He treated his concubine with status and rights that befit a main wife.

If it was his birth mother on the death bed DaNiang might not have seen the light next day.

 

ShenHong and ML both were saved and  flourished because old madam Sheng nurtured and supported them.

Yet when the time came it wasn't the son but the granddaughter who sincerely repayed the kindness bestowed.

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1 hour ago, UnniSarah said:

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3 hours ago, nichiwoohee said:

 

When I mtl’d the book I was really moved by what ml said here. As a time traveller she can see how pitiful grandma really is, that “you still have me” is really sad, because in that house they do only have each other

 

I was tearing up after I read this scene. I think when ML pointed it out that granny is not blood related to them it drove home that granny actually was all alone in this world....except for ML.  Basically living in that house on SH's good will.

I remember skipping much of the book during the first reading. What I didn't skip was Granny and ML's scenes.Their beautiful relationship is the best part of this book.

 

3 hours ago, shihuangdi said:

Thank you. I remember the Shengs were talking about Changfeng marriage potential back then, but I thought they didn't end up finding anyone. Glad he managed to find a great lady as his wife. I actually hope that Molan could become nicer after her mother's death, but looks like she is still out to create trouble. So in the novel, Linniang wasn't beaten to death?

 

Lin niang was sent away to a farmstead I think. She was brought back later. But before she was brought back Daniang made her loose her looks. I don't remember reading this but I read a spoiler that said Daniang ordered the servants to starve her for few days and then feed her lard day and night.....so that she becomes fat.  

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1 hour ago, UnniSarah said:

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One of the best scenes in the drama, I think,  is in the ending of episode 60 when the elderly Duke of Ying carried her daughter who just gave birth and was emotionally and physically exhausted and Duchess of Ying carrying her grandchild away from General Shen and his concubine. And ML brandishing that sword. In a way she was able to do what she could not do when she was a child for her mother and brother. She was not going to let another mother and child die. 

 

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13 minutes ago, zenya22 said:

One of the best scenes in the drama, I think,  is in the ending of episode 60 when the elderly Duke of Ying carried her daughter who just gave birth and was emotionally and physically exhausted and Duchess of Ying carrying her grandchild away from General Shen and his concubine. And ML brandishing that sword. In a way she was able to do what she could not do when she was a child for her mother and brother. She was not going to let another mother and child die. 

 

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I agree, episode 60 was the episode that really showcased that not everyone are crude animals. The Duke and Duchess of Ying and their daughter, Grandma, Xiotou and Shitou are welcome reminders in a story filled with vultures picking at GTY, ML and the Emperor. 

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I concur. the Duke and the Duchess of Ying could afford their choice but it was great to see them putting their daughter first, ignoring any practical or formal reason to keep the appearence. I found this couple very moving.

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41 minutes ago, zenya22 said:

One of the best scenes in the drama, I think,  is in the ending of episode 60 when the elderly Duke of Ying carried her daughter who just gave birth and was emotionally and physically exhausted and Duchess of Ying carrying her grandchild away from General Shen and his concubine. And ML brandishing that sword. In a way she was able to do what she could not do when she was a child for her mother and brother. She was not going to let another mother and child die. 

 

                             Go Ahead, Make MY Day!!!! 

Agree. The Duke and Duchess of Ying are one of the few parents in this drama who truly care for their children instead of using them for their advantage. I love how they ask for a separation despite knowing how bad it would look for the family and then bring their daughter to safety. 

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Episode 62 can be said as Sheng Hong and DaNiang getting introduced to the real Minglan. I loved the transition of SH from slapping ML in trying to exert his authority to giving in completely to what his daughter wants. He understood that ML has checkmated him.There was no recourse except to comply.

Poor Big Madam! the understanding still remains beyond her grasp.As they say straight trees get cut first.Even without harboring malicious intent she is drawn in a sinster plot and gets punished for being manipulated.

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12 hours ago, UnniSarah said:

Okay Thansk for sharing this clip @Gina Corporan Rios.

 

I am quite confused to QH’s reaction of GTY’s visits. Since second wife was willing to risk her life to save hubby even though there was no danger, QH will now fall in love with his wife. I guess I can now understand why the writer changed QH so much in the drama. I can be okay with it. It looks like Q will have his happy ending after all. Or I am hoping for that to happen. 

Thank you @UnniSarahI like it. Our QH has grown up, the way he looks at his very nervous wife,  it was not the look of the teenager in love but the look of a man who cared deeply for his woman. Good for him and about time!!!

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I want to give a nod of appreciation to the Empress. She knew the importance of ML's words. After giving it a proper think, came up with a way out. Letting go of her ego, kneeling down while still using her status to gain pardon for her stupid brother. She knew the situation could make or break the emperor's reign. With ED waiting eagerly in the wings for the emperor to make mistakes, Empress had to be the only person who could solve this issue cleanly. 

 

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8 minutes ago, dito said:

I want give a nod of appreciation to the Empress. She knew the importance of ML's words. After giving it a proper think, came up with a way out. Letting go of her ego, kneeling down while still using her status to gain pardon for her stupid brother. She knew the situation could make or break the emperor's reign. With ED waiting eagerly in the wings for the emperor to make mistakes, Empress had to be the only person who could solve this issue cleanly. 

 

She is smart. The women in these drama even the evil ones are generally smarter than men.

i wonder if the Empress is going to help ml during the downfall episodes to repay her . 

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4 hours ago, UnniSarah said:

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42 minutes ago, fra8 said:

She is smart. The women in these drama even the evil ones are generally smarter than men.

i wonder if the Empress is going to help ml during the downfall episodes to repay her . 

 

I hope the empress helps them. GTY and ML have been getting her family out of one mess after another ever since they came to the capital.

But I really wish they hadn't added the downfall storyline. Its already looking quite a bit rushed with one disaster after another happening in their lives. To put it in sequence....after the poisoning is sorted out...ML goes into labor...then the fire....Kang aunt attacks and is killed....then the downfall...banging of the drum...GTY in prison...(maybe before the drum scene)....GTY gets demoted to foot soldier and goes off to fight. ED starts rebellion....ML defends Gu manor. Stepmom again tries to kill them....but her son dies instead. GTY again saves the prince and helps stop the rebellion. GTY gets his position back. GTY and ML decide to leave the capital.

I don't think 14 epis will be enough to show all this.

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11 minutes ago, dito said:

 

I hope the empress helps them. GTY and ML have been getting her family out of one mess after another ever since they came to the capital.

But I really wish they hadn't added the downfall storyline. Its already looking quite a bit rushed with one disaster after another happening in their lives. To put it in sequence....after the poisoning is sorted out...ML goes into labor...then the fire....Kang aunt attacks and is killed....then the downfall...banging of the drum...GTY in prison...(maybe before the drum scene)....GTY gets demoted to foot soldier and goes off to fight. ED starts rebellion....ML defends Gu manor. Stepmom again tries to kill them....but her son dies instead. GTY again saves the prince and helps stop the rebellion. GTY gets his position back. GTY and ML decide to leave the capital.

I don't think 14 epis will be enough to show all this.

I couldnt agree more . And I still would love an episode calm and happy.

It seems instead that until the end in every episode there is a huge problem sigh

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11 minutes ago, dito said:

 

I hope the empress helps them. GTY and ML have been getting her family out of one mess after another ever since they came to the capital.

But I really wish they hadn't added the downfall storyline. Its already looking quite a bit rushed with one disaster after another happening in their lives. To put it in sequence....after the poisoning is sorted out...ML goes into labor...then the fire....Kang aunt attacks and is killed....then the downfall...banging of the drum...GTY in prison...(maybe before the drum scene)....GTY gets demoted to foot soldier and goes off to fight. ED starts rebellion....ML defends Gu manor. Stepmom again tries to kill them....but her son dies instead. GTY again saves the prince and helps stop the rebellion. GTY gets his position back. GTY and ML decide to leave the capital.

I don't think 14 epis will be enough to show all this.

Fret not.  Let's just hope that it will be evenly paced.  I am looking forward to see ML gives birth and banging the drum part.  I like the fact that the Empress respects her enough to ask for her advice to avoid the feud that the ED was anticipating between Shen and Zhang family.  I admire the Empress is humbling herself enough for her brother thereby spoiling the "excitement" that Guifei was waiting for.  Each time I see her, I wanted to slap her.  I hope she loses favour quick and that the Emperor wisen up to where her loyalities actually lies (which is not with him).          

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3 hours ago, zenya22 said:

One of the best scenes in the drama, I think,  is in the ending of episode 60 when the elderly Duke of Ying carried her daughter who just gave birth and was emotionally and physically exhausted and Duchess of Ying carrying her grandchild away from General Shen and his concubine. And ML brandishing that sword. In a way she was able to do what she could not do when she was a child for her mother and brother. She was not going to let another mother and child die. 

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@zenya22  What I find fummy anout this scene between the concubine and her brother is first they lied and said that the Doc left after checking her pulse.. After the confrontation the brother running towards ML saying he was sick and going to die if the doctor left.. I thought these two should have gotten they lie straight was he there for her pulse or her brother health.. I gues the concubine didn't expect ML to have heart enough to hiold a sword to her head nor her playing her dead sister and the Empress role wasn;t going to fly with ML hence her brother went after her and got a dose..  I say the Lil comcubine may have always known in the back of her not to mess with ML..

 

2 hours ago, minglan1 said:

Episode 62 can be said as Sheng Hong and DaNiang getting introduced to the real Minglan. I loved the transition of SH from slapping ML in trying to exert his authority to giving in completely to what his daughter wants. He understood that ML has checkmated him.There was no recourse except to comply.

Poor Big Madam! the understanding still remains beyond her grasp.As they say straight trees get cut first.Even without harboring malicious intent she is drawn in a sinster plot and gets punished for being manipulated.

@minglan1  It was sad to see Big Mdm after all that's happen still couldn't weigh the pros and cons to this incident.. Even her trusted servant said she didn't like that Aunty Kang was hanging around a lot and knew it wasn't nothing good to come out of it.. It took Sh to tell her if she had to comply because ML had the noose around her neck and she still looked dumb trying to protect her sister..

 

38 minutes ago, dito said:

I hope the empress helps them. GTY and ML have been getting her family out of one mess after another ever since they came to the capital.

But I really wish they hadn't added the downfall storyline. Its already looking quite a bit rushed with one disaster after another happening in their lives. To put it in sequence....after the poisoning is sorted out...ML goes into labor...then the fire....Kang aunt attacks and is killed....then the downfall...banging of the drum...GTY in prison...(maybe before the drum scene)....GTY gets demoted to foot soldier and goes off to fight. ED starts rebellion....ML defends Gu manor. Stepmom again tries to kill them....but her son dies instead. GTY again saves the prince and helps stop the rebellion. GTY gets his position back. GTY and ML decide to leave the capital.

I don't think 14 epis will be enough to show all this.

@dito  Just the way you wrote ot sounds a bit rushed I can imagine what it would be like if this is wrote in the drama alsop.. Glad ti hear he leaves the capital with titke and status still intact.. Which means he could come back anytine he likes..

 

Let's hope for a season 2, Showing how they children growing up and how loving GTY is towards his wife..

I remember you said he did fathered a daughter outside the marriage..Did ML bring the daughter in to be raised in the home ? 

 

Also do anyone have the links to episode 64 and 65 raw.. If so could you pls msgs it to me..

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