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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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I was always wondering how women can become unbearable psychos like Maniang, Big Madam, and Aunty Kang. I still don't understand Maniang (maybe she's a natural psycho lol) but think I can sympathize a little bit with Big Madam and Aunty Kang here. Failure to receive care and love from their husband obviously contributes greatly to their psycho characteristics and directly influences their "everyone has wronged me" view. But this definitely shouldn't be the excuse for them to project their unhappiness to everyone around them. It's just so wrong and so... pathetic.

 

The actress who plays Big Madam did her role great justice in the raining scene at the worshipping room. I can feel her bitterness, disillusionment, dispair and discontent with her marriage. I mean she's definitely to blame for her wicked business, she shouldn't bottle up her emotions for all those year, put on the fake virtuous mask and eventually turn herself into a monster. But I can't help wonder whether we would have been like her if we were in her shoes. Maybe this is why I feel her evilness is more "reasonable" compared to that of Aunt Kang who hates just anyone because they won't let her have her way.

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36 minutes ago, purplefall94 said:

I was always wondering how women can become unbearable psychos like Maniang, Big Madam, and Aunty Kang. I still don't understand Maniang (maybe she's a natural psycho lol) but think I can sympathize a little bit with Big Madam and Aunty Kang here. Failure to receive care and love from their husband obviously contributes greatly to their psycho characteristics and directly influences their "everyone has wronged me" view. But this definitely shouldn't be the excuse for them to project their unhappiness to everyone around them. It's just so wrong and so... pathetic.

 

The actress who plays Big Madam did her role great justice in the raining scene at the worshipping room. I can feel her bitterness, disillusionment, dispair and discontent with her marriage. I mean she's definitely to blame for her wicked business, she shouldn't bottle up her emotions for all those year, put on the fake virtuous mask and eventually turn herself into a monster. But I can't help wonder whether we would have been like her if we were in her shoes. Maybe this is why I feel her evilness is more "reasonable" compared to that of Aunt Kang who hates just anyone because they won't let her have her way.

...I can sympathize a little bit with Big Madam and Aunty Kang here...

 

GTY is an orphan he shld have been treated with care and respect. Her family clans are also enjoying benefits from assets left behind by GTY's late mum.

 

They made GTY their scapegoat and put all sorts of blame to keep the father away from GTY. Now scheming non-stop to break ML/GTY.

 

There should be no room for any compassion wth these wicked people.

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5 hours ago, leeza77 said:

 My guess is she get help from stepmom.. The ordinary soldier are no match for stepmom craftiness. 

 

Yeah stepmom always steps up her game to cause trouble for GTY and ML. She set fire to GTY's house while ML was in the middle of delivering her baby....which caused panic among the servants and the guards and gave stepmom an opening to send someone to attack ML and the baby.

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5 hours ago, minglan1 said:

The women actors in the drama are very good.They make you loathe and love them with sincerity.

I am also waiting for GTY to be back and take everyone to task for troubling his precious wife. To bother ML was supposed to be his job and no one else.

To add I like evil stepmom and ED.Their villainy is so varied that it makes the show enjoyable.The comic elements that are added to their scenes now and then helps not to make it to heavy.

 

Watching this drama made me go through a lot of emotions : this shows that all the actors and actresses are TALENTED.  They played their role so well that we either love, pity, feel sad for them or hates them. Whoever the director is, bravo!  You made the right choice to choose the actors and actresses for the respective roles.  I read that ZLY was chosen as main actress right from the word go but for the male lead, it took them a while.  They had so many choice to choose from.  FSF managed to carry this role well as he gives you the strong male impression.  Plus he is mature for this role like the writer would have wanted. Bravo to the wole casts!   

38 minutes ago, dito said:

 

Yeah stepmom always steps up her game to cause trouble for GTY and ML. She set fire to GTY's house while ML was in the middle of delivering her baby....which caused panic among the servants and the guards and gave stepmom an opening to send someone to attack ML and the baby.

Let me slap her!!!!!!!  Such an evil woman.  Going lunatic is too easy for her!

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4 hours ago, Jackie1048 said:

I believe the punishment is 50 slaps. I worried more for the Eunuch's hand. He is not doing a good job as the Concubine can still protest at every slap.

 

I believe the evil in women here is the result of the position they are in. Stepmother was married literally to look after the old Marquis children and his love went away together with her dead sister. I think her change over was when she heard the old Marquis praying to meet his first wife in the next life. She had no standing in that family so her life will be seen in vain if she did not scheme for power.

 

Is this in episode 59? I'm glad we get back story to the stepmother (Lady Qin?) because I couldn't exactly understand why she was so insistent on harming GTY. 

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4 minutes ago, paras said:

 

At last, a family who would risk everything for their daughter, and not use her as a commodity. 

The state uncle is guilty of favoring the concubine, neglecting the wife, leave his bum richard simmons

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6 hours ago, Jackie1048 said:

I believe the evil in women here is the result of the position they are in. Stepmother was married literally to look after the old Marquis children and his love went away together with her dead sister. I think her change over was when she heard the old Marquis praying to meet his first wife in the next life. She had no standing in that family so her life will be seen in vain if she did not scheme for power.

4 hours ago, purplefall94 said:

I was always wondering how women can become unbearable psychos like Maniang, Big Madam, and Aunty Kang. I still don't understand Maniang (maybe she's a natural psycho lol) but think I can sympathize a little bit with Big Madam and Aunty Kang here. Failure to receive care and love from their husband obviously contributes greatly to their psycho characteristics and directly influences their "everyone has wronged me" view. But this definitely shouldn't be the excuse for them to project their unhappiness to everyone around them. It's just so wrong and so... pathetic.

 

The actress who plays Big Madam did her role great justice in the raining scene at the worshipping room. I can feel her bitterness, disillusionment, dispair and discontent with her marriage. I mean she's definitely to blame for her wicked business, she shouldn't bottle up her emotions for all those year, put on the fake virtuous mask and eventually turn herself into a monster. But I can't help wonder whether we would have been like her if we were in her shoes. Maybe this is why I feel her evilness is more "reasonable" compared to that of Aunt Kang who hates just anyone because they won't let her have her way.

 

@Jackie1048 & @purplefall94   I had often wonder why would they marry sisters into the same family.. Clearly at that time the GU house was broke.. Was Evil step Mom sent there for her sister child..? The Gu house was on bad terms with the courts wouldn't it have been better if Big Mdm was married off into a different famiy of status and wealth.. Most marriage then was for alliences to form more wealth and power.. Did Big Mdm not know marrying into the Gu house which child hold all the wealth..

 

In my opinion her evilness stemed from her on making.. She went there with a plan to kill all the marquis children leaving her child the only one left.. @purplefall94  Big Mdm didn't just turn evil she was evil from the start, As @Jackie1048 Explain it above seeing the marquis still loving his first wife whom it was someone she couldn't beat nor challenge to fight for the man she wanted because she couldn't win over the dead.. So she learned to pit the two children against each other, Have the father to hate one of his sons while she sit back and reap the fruits of her labor..     

 

When it comes to Mannining..  She not a psycho she's just and evil schemer like Big Mdm.. Mannnining Evil comes from her own plans not coming into fruitation.. So yes her and Big Mdm would like to destroy everything if they can't have what they want.. Aunt Kang on the other hand just hates a Shu daughter living well off then her.. If she had any inking that Molan was more richer then Minglan she would have been in her home trying to set up shop..But I'm sure she did her homework on all the Sheng girls husbands and found MIng Lan was the one to go after..  

 

3 hours ago, dito said:

 

Yeah stepmom always steps up her game to cause trouble for GTY and ML. She set fire to GTY's house while ML was in the middle of delivering her baby....which caused panic among the servants and the guards and gave stepmom an opening to send someone to attack ML and the baby.

@dito  Where was GTY when all of this took place.?  Did all this happen when he was in prison on the ED trump up charges..

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10 minutes ago, nichiwoohee said:

At last, a family who would risk everything for their daughter, and not use her as a commodity. 

The state uncle is guilty of favoring the concubine, neglecting the wife, leave his bum richard simmons

@nichiwoohee  I enjoyed watching that scene also, The concubine is bold enough to try and kill off the kid.. Now with everyone knowing her evil plan it would be hard to marry her off.. 

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10 hours ago, Katrina Abdul Talib said:

Agree.. sometimes wonder how these script writers can come up with such precise wordings! Such creative minds.

 

 

I also agree that this was a brilliant scene and dialogue. The acting of all the characters in that scene was great and believable.  I especially like the part where Aunt Kang tripped and fell! 

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3 hours ago, frenchfan said:

Let me slap her!!!!!!!  Such an evil woman.  Going lunatic is too easy for her!

 

She got much condemnation after the fire. People started questioning her pure and innocent act. GTY being the smart cookie he is, is also someone who likes to hold grudges. When he saw his house on fire....he rushed in to save ML. After everything was under control he went and set fire to stepmom son's house....as retaliation. No one was hurt but the next day when the news about the fire was spreading ...another rumor started that said it was the stepmom who started the fire and to deflect suspicion from herself she burned her own son's house. It was then people started putting things together about stepmom's action....concubines, rumors of ML's bad attitude, GTY's bad reputation  were actually underhanded ways to harm GTY and ML.

GTY went to court the next day with little burns and bruises on his face and hands and asked the emperor permission to official divide the house of Gu.....stepmom, her son, the uncles and aunts...everyone got kicked out of the Gu manor....and were given some part of the Gu property to live on. GTY and ML moved in the manor after renovating it. 

The reason stepmom went crazy was she lost everyone dear to her...her son, her grand children and it was because of her own actions. And the marquis title that she had worked so hard to get for her son was completely out of her hands after her son died and ML gave birth to another son.

19 minutes ago, sava2sava said:

 

@dito  Where was GTY when all of this took place.?  Did all this happen when he was in prison on the ED trump up charges..

 

He was on his salt mines investigation trip.....the one he is on right now. ED fake charges are all newly written for the drama it was not in the book.

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46 minutes ago, sava2sava said:

@nichiwoohee  I enjoyed watching that scene also, The concubine is bold enough to try and kill off the kid.. Now with everyone knowing her evil plan it would be hard to marry her off.. 

 

No need to marry her off, just return her to her parents. I bet the state uncle didnt punish the concubine, that’s why lady zhang’s father is livid. 

I hope they still like minglan, gty is close to state uncle, and I’m pretty sure the zhang wants to severe ties with the shen now

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42 minutes ago, nichiwoohee said:

 

No need to marry her off, just return her to her parents. I bet the state uncle didnt punish the concubine, that’s why lady zhang’s father is livid. 

I hope they still like minglan, gty is close to state uncle, and I’m pretty sure the zhang wants to severe ties with the shen now

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Zhang madam decided to come back to sheng manor.. Seems that she forgave her husband. The concubine was sent off out of the manor.. Maybe she was exiled somewhere, not allowed to set her foot into the city ever again 

 

SH slapped ML tonight.. I'm so angry with SH. Stupid SH. You slapped a heavily pregnant daughter. 

http://p.weibo.com/show/channerWbH5/1034:4335729455869426

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It's rare to see parents like Madam Zhang's. Most of these dramas the daughters are just a chesspiece. State Uncle was too stupid and naive because the concubine is a relative of his late wife. I hope he learns his lesson. Luckily ML was able to save her.

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This is why i wan't him to lose everything. I hope ML & GTY with their family leave the capital in the end just like they did in the novel apparently. Just to get away from all these scheming relatives and nobles.

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9 minutes ago, Lunkera said:

This is why i wan't him to lose everything. I hope ML & GTY with their family leave the capital in the end just like they did in the novel apparently. Just to get away from all these scheming relatives and nobles.

I don't want them to lose everything because life will become hard for them. But I do want them to leave the capital and get away from scheming relatives and nobles. 

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