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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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11 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

He was disappointed that she didn't put up a fight and not accept..If ML wanted she could have.If she had given him the chance he could also manage to not let the concubine enter.But she completly cornered him into the fait accompli.

He had learned in the morning that she pretends being calm in situations because she doesn't care.She cared enough for her mom to break out of that.She didn't do it for him for the concubine incident.

I guess the next episode will shed light on their thought processes when they converse.

ML puts up with her facade and CL for yearsss. 

She puts her foot down no because she can. She knows she can stand up against it now and put an end to it. 

With the concubine business, she can throw a fit and get rid of one more now. But it's the 4th attempt, from all directions. From her 1st day with the maid, to the spy maid, to ED, now this. 

It won't stop. How many times can she say no and/or throw tantrum?

Taking in the woman is one thing, for him to decide whether or not to sleep with them, is another....

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53 minutes ago, Suzzy San said:

Hmm you are also right though, he has learned in the morning that if she cared enough she will put up a confrontation, so he was expecting her to be that way too if she cared, but we also know as viewers, while he doesn't fully know as a character, that while she cared for her mother a lot, she did things silently and only after years upon years did she do something face to face, when they cornered her, so I think she is also working silently until they actually corner her a lot till she do a face to face confrontation with them too.. Hahhahahhahh.. This is so funny.. Wow ML is the only one I know that will wait and remember everything for years till she is fully ready for a confrontation.. Wow...so expected of her.. Right now I think it all boils down to what the script exposes the characters to, if they are not told to know and understand, then someone from the character has to open it for them and make them understand, but it seems this time we might need the help of Changbai to open the first phase by telling him to talk clearly to her and ML for the second phase of making him understand her by telling him her own Pov about her fears, experiences and the norms they must live with.. It's the counseling period now.. Looks like marriage counseling have started way back in history 

You are right too.As. a viewer we get a 360 degree view of everything unlike the characters.If they understand  things so quickly how would the story develop it's plots? I liked how they treated this sequence..It had comic elements with GTY huffing and puffing in being sidelined by dear wife. A poignant note of ML and Danju talking about the predicament of wives and concubines. It was balanced well.

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4 hours ago, m0us3y said:

ML puts up with her facade and CL for yearsss. 

She puts her foot down no because she can. She knows she can stand up against it now and put an end to it. 

With the concubine business, she can throw a fit and get rid of one more now. But it's the 4th attempt, from all directions. From her 1st day with the maid, to the spy maid, to ED, now this. 

It won't stop. How many times can she say no and/or throw tantrum?

Taking in the woman is one thing, for him to decide whether or not to sleep with them, is another....

what you mentioned is also true.

I think of all the options of concubines maybe this ladywas considered the safest in terms of disruptions to their household.

To put a stop to the overzealous attempts at sending concubines something concrete needed to be done,so that this method is deemed unsuccessful.

Hopefully the message will be read that way by the Gu clan and they will give this strategy a break.

 

Replying to your previous comment-

 

In absolute terms GTY has not failed but he belives it to be so.If he thought otherwise the facade to torment his wife some more would have continued..He wouldn't  have let her off this easy for putting him in this predicament given his temperamental nature.

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8 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

You are right too.As. a viewer we get a 360 degree view of everything unlike the characters.If they understand  things so quickly how would the story develop it's plots? I liked how they treated this sequence..It had comic elements with GTY huffing and puffing in being sidelined by dear wife as well a poignant note of ML and Danju talking about the predicament of wives and concubines. It was balanced well.

I do wonder if the woman ML took in has malicious intent tho. 

What I thought was funny was the woman looked pretty please and smug with herself when GTY said he's spending time with her...only to actually have him sitting there ignoring her completely! :lol:

And everytime she tried to approach him he just stood up, opens the door and talks to Shitou. :lol::lol:

That was awkward...

 

But I do feel it was very sweet that in the end he still went back to ML's bed and hugged her to sleep...

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8 minutes ago, m0us3y said:

I do wonder if the woman ML took in has malicious intent tho. 

What I thought was funny was the woman looked pretty please and smug with herself when GTY said he's spending time with her...only to actually have him sitting there ignoring her completely! :lol:

And everytime she tried to approach him he just stood up, opens the door and talks to Shitou. :lol::lol:

That was awkward...

 

But I do feel it was very sweet that in the end he still went back to ML's bed and hugged her to sleep...

The ending was sweet.:wub:

The maid's segment was hillarious.Even xiaotao and Shitou's conversation was sweet. I love the pair.

The way GTY got mad at ML being busy with eating when he was trying so hard to draw attention was simply..:lol:

 

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DramaPandaC-drama Ratings and Celeb Rankings (week starting Jan 21)

 
posted by Anne J on January 28, 2019 1 comment
 
 
 
 
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CSM55 Cities + Online
 
The Story of Minglan hits another high this week as it reaches CSM52 ratings of 1.8%. If my memory serves me right, it's been a long time since a drama has come this close to 2%! It's also been a while to see more than one show above 1% and we've got two more this week as Behind the Scenes reaches 1.1% and Spy Hunter reaches 1.0%. 
 
Minglan and Spy Hunter are also first and third in the weekly top 10 though it's odd that Behind the Scenes didn't make the cut. The final week ratings for The King of Blaze 2 averages at 0.8% though the show is also missing from the top 10. I Will Never Let You Go continues to do well online as it ranks in second place. 
 
Candle in the Tomb: The Wrath of Time,Legend of Hao Lan and Exclusive Memoryare the newly-airing web dramas on the list. 
 
CSM Nationwide
 
The Story of Minglan also leads nationwide with ratings above 1%. 
 
 
 
 
TV Ratings 
 
CSM55 Cities 
 
 
CSM 55 Cities
 
 
 
 
 
 
CSM Nationwide
 
 
CSM Nationwide
 
*The above are mostly primetime shows that air at 19:30 while those highlighted in blue air at 22:00. **Rankings are overall rankings across the shows airing on the same night, regardless of air time. *** Reruns are not included. **** Dramas that air on CCTV (the state television broadcaster in China) are not included. ***** CSM55Cities and CSMNationwide are common tv metrics. 
 
Web Rankings 
 
Top Dramas (7-Day)  
10. Dang Kou
 
Top Celebrities (7-Day) 
3. Yang Zi
5. Deng Lun
6. Wang Kai
8. Ariel Lin
10. Yang Mi
 
 
   
 
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17 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

The ending was sweet.:wub:

The maid's segment was hillarious.Even xiaotao and Shitou's conversation was sweet. I love the pair.

The way GTY got mad at ML being busy with eating when he was trying so hard to draw attention was simply..:lol:

 

Lol.. Ml is a foodie. How can he compete with food??? :joy:

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5 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

Also apparently China has banned Palace drama's now.. My Queen Dugu and Zhao Ge better still be able to air, been waiting age's for these and they would make me feel less empty haha.

 

 Broadcast of palace intrigue dramas like Ruyi, Yanxi etc have been halted after the Chinese government media published an article listing 5 major negative effects of such productions, which include:

 

1. it has become fashionable to idolise the lifestyle of royalty, whereby those who bask in the glory of royalty end up being arrogant

2. The detailed portrayal of palace intrigues will worsen social evolution, which is incompatible with the socialist core values currently advocated by China, and a very real danger

3. Glorifying the era of emperors of ministers, detracting away from the glory of the current regime, the founding fathers of New China, model heroes and outstanding communists

4. Promoting luxury and pleasure, showcasing the extravagant style of the palace, which goes against the country's advocacy of the beautiful tradition of hard work

5. The one-sided pursuit of commercial interests while weakening positive spiritual guidance. Despite the commercial hype and success of such shows, there is no positive significance in cultural development

 

Original news article here.

will it be banned too if they're aired from web online sites? I worry if it is. I think there're a lot of such banned movie and drama that are aired on online sites instead of tv station.  

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First home when I saw he did not sleep with the concubine she was still in the same clothes fully dressed on the bed and he was still in the same spot when he walked out. And second she had to accept the concubine the conditions she had three options she said you either had a concubine that was gifted to you a concubine that was raised or concubine that you know somebody chose and because this was gifted the purpose of this concubine was to cause a fight between husband and wife and he was going to call the fight between the families cuz now he's the head of his family and if he caused a fight between his aunt and any other extended family it would cause more division in the house so she said might as well get it over and done with.

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7 hours ago, minglan1 said:

The confrontation of Yuanrao and GTY was so well done.He didn't go out of his character.He truly believed that GTY has swindled Manninag like him and would do the same to the emperor.He was making sure that no one else is hurt due to GTY by bringing it up in the court.He still lacks foresight like before.

He has blinkers on while arriving at conclusions about situations. It ends up hurting him when things go differently than anticipated.

It does lays the foundation of why ML would have a conversation with him.She is the only one who can make him take a deeper look at how he has been handling things.

 

The tangled relationships would smoothen out.The process has begun.This week is going to be an eventful one in the Marquis household.

Just wish the subbing was faster.

 

Note to self: Never start watching a drama until it is subbed half way through.

 

You’re so right @minglan1, never ever start watching a drama until it’s subbed

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2 hours ago, lilkat75 said:

 A bit off topic but I wanted to discuss a bit about the Emperor, ED and palace politics. So I've read in a previous post that GTY pubically asked for leniency for his GU family on purpose as an elaborate scheme. Do you guys still think that is the case that GTY and the prince are scheming to get rid of the ED's power? For me, I'm a little unsure since ED and GTY's stepmother are both scheming against him but I guess that's the norm for the latter :sweatingbullets: Also, what are anyone's thoughts on the current Emperor? To me, he seems a bit eh, this is coming from the fact that he was refusing to become Emperor even though the previous Emperor was in a precarious situation. Anyways, onto the ED, at first she was fine but as we know, she seems to want to hold onto power. Commenting on her conversation with GTY in much earlier episodes, I think she was mentioning how her husband (the previous Emperor) was generous and benevolent and yet GTY seems to be going back on it (something along these lines...I can't exactly remember but you'll get the gist of it). On this point, I do agree especially watching the scene where the palace maid during the rebellion mentioned how the Emperor didn't say anything when she hadn't done her job of getting the tea. Plus the ED also said that he was forgiving (?) towards the palace servants whenever they made a mistake. However, being a kind Emperor doesn't necessarily make you a good ruler. I say this because he was about to make the heir from the Yong (?) family the Emperor supposedly. Yes, the Yong family had lots of power and connections and we didn't get to see much as of them,  so I can't have quite an accurate grasp of the personality of the Yong heir. However, what I can say is they did abuse power and justice. For example, they had a noble daughter (I don't know her name) kidnapped, raped and made a mockery in the crowds when she was thrown out simply on the basis that the Yong/third princess wants to marry QH. They refused the other family justice in finding the culprit (for obvious reasons) due to their might, connection and power. Furthermore, they held QH's father captive (QH's mother even begged the ED) and threatened QH with ML and her family's disappearance. QH even laughed when he said something along the lines of what has the world/country become with future rulers like this ... ED seems to have ignored/not known this about the Yong family which she has a lot of support from in the current palace politics. If you read this all, thanks it's:D quite rambly and disjointed at times but I find it interesting. 

 

Thanks for mentioning about the palace politicking.I initially thought that GTY and prince Huan had a plan in place for bringing the downfall of ED but not so sure right now.

They did plot to steal the jade seal from her and are aware of her intentions.It seems from the conversation between GTY and prince Huan after MN incident that they are dodging her moves for now.

If it weren't for his ambitious son and GTY's coaxing don't think the current emperor would have ended on the throne.He is a guy who likes a peaceful life without complications.The palace just makes him walk a tight rope of maintaining his balance of power.Given a choice he would prefer the leisurely stroll among his wheat/paddy fields instead.

There was a mention in one of the earlier episodes by GTY that ED is stalling the reforms that emperor wants to implement.She has her own people in positions of power who are corrupt and is unwilling to let them go.

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7 hours ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

Also apparently China has banned Palace drama's now.. My Queen Dugu and Zhao Ge better still be able to air, been waiting age's for these and they would make me feel less empty haha.

 

 Broadcast of palace intrigue dramas like Ruyi, Yanxi etc have been halted after the Chinese government media published an article listing 5 major negative effects of such productions, which include:

 

1. it has become fashionable to idolise the lifestyle of royalty, whereby those who bask in the glory of royalty end up being arrogant

2. The detailed portrayal of palace intrigues will worsen social evolution, which is incompatible with the socialist core values currently advocated by China, and a very real danger

3. Glorifying the era of emperors of ministers, detracting away from the glory of the current regime, the founding fathers of New China, model heroes and outstanding communists

4. Promoting luxury and pleasure, showcasing the extravagant style of the palace, which goes against the country's advocacy of the beautiful tradition of hard work

5. The one-sided pursuit of commercial interests while weakening positive spiritual guidance. Despite the commercial hype and success of such shows, there is no positive significance in cultural development

 

Original news article here.

Owh ooo did not know about these new restrictions. No wonder few chinese dramas are left hangging halfway without English subs.. sob sob.

 

Ep 51.. really broke my heart. I cannot imagine, after years of searching, to discover the child dead! 

 

This Gu family members are simply horrible. Why is GTY still giving them face? Look at Sheng household.. very secretive. (Beating concubine Lin which led to her death and also punishing Molan's 2 childhood maids with death) 

 

Can't GTY be more firm in handling them (discretely). In this respect, I feel GTY is very weak. Yes of 'cos he has to be cautious of his position.. but there are so many ways esp him having so many people at his disposal to do all the dirty work for him. (eg banishing MN).

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1 hour ago, leeza77 said:

Lol.. Ml is a foodie. How can he compete with food??? :joy:

He has no chance.No wonder he was bribing her with food in the trailer.:lol:

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Finally the political aspect is starting to kick in. QH fairs way better as an antagonist to TY. I want to see his transition/change in attitude through the course of the drama, since his scenes mostly consist of hanging around his manor & hopelessly romanticizing ML.

 

Even his earlier interactions w/ ML is quite abysmal. During his family's predicament, I pity him. He's been a dull goodytwo shoes, so it will be interesting how he strays from that image & be more conniving & methodical in the political scene. QH's wife is quite witty herself. 

 

Since his initial appearance & into 40 episodes, his character development has been non-existent. Now that he's part of the imperial palace, it's going to be interesting how QH work his way in favor of the imperial/dowager's power. 

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20 minutes ago, Katrina Abdul Talib said:

Owh ooo did not know about these new restrictions. No wonder few chinese dramas are left hangging halfway without English subs.. sob sob.

 

Ep 51.. really broke my heart. I cannot imagine, after years of searching, to discover the child dead! 

 

This Gu family members are simply horrible. Why is GTY still giving them face? Look at Sheng household.. very secretive. (Beating concubine Lin which led to her death and also punishing Molan's 2 childhood maids with death) 

 

Can't GTY be more firm in handling them (discretely). In this respect, I feel GTY is very weak. Yes of 'cos he has to be cautious of his position.. but there are so many ways esp him having so many people at his disposal to do all the dirty work for him. (eg banishing MN).

 

What would you suggest him do? Kill them? Or imprison them? He's the head of the household now, he has to protect them whether he wants to or not. Anything bad happens to them, he could be implicated too, because technically, they are his responsibility. As long as they behave, there's no reason for him to handle them. MN commits grave crimes towards him, he and ML didn't even dare to touch a hair on her head, but she still manage to bite him in the behind. Right now he can't afford to make any mistake with ED and QH watching him like hawks. Not to mention his scary stepmother, she's already gone around tarnishing him and his wife reputation, they don't need to give her more opportunities to harm them. Remember, the whole capital still thinks of her as a saint, if anything happens to her, it would definitely blamed on him. If he was alone, then he could be reckless, but he has a family now, ML would never let him do anything rash.

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This drama is so nerve wrecking. I get anxious watching it. It's unpredictable too, which makes even more fun to watch. I want TY&ML to pull through together until the very end. 

 

QH still has ML in his heart grinds my teeth. <_< Move on dude. He's like a fly ready to be shoo away w/a bug swatter. He fails in comparison to TY. TY is an A+ in my book & exceeds in everyway character-wise.

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44 minutes ago, minglan1 said:

He has no chance.No wonder he was bribing her with food in the trailer.:lol:

Yes, gty learned his lesson well. Man v food. Food won.. Ha ha:glasses:

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