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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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6 minutes ago, leeza77 said:
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Never said she's arrogant.. Domineering attitude can be seen in the trailers when she deal with the issue outside her household. Then there is a scene where ml out-maneuvered the stepmom whilst gty hiding outside (and mimicking) the stepmom white lotus speech. He's guarding her six. 

 

Ahhhh. Just ML being ML then. 

Lol. Domineering by google's definition "assert one's will over another in an arrogant way". Bit more of a bully. 

Hence I asked. Thanks for clarifying! Now I'm looking forward to it! :lol:

I like that she outmaneuver and outwit the stepmom, but not to the extent of being arrogant. 

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3 hours ago, sava2sava said:

 

@Lunkera  I read it was after she had the first child and pregnant with the second one when they poisioned Granny.. This is when they reconnected they're relationship.. No one never said what sex was the second child.. Did she have two boys or just the one.. 

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ML and GTY had 4 sons in a row. When ML was pregnant with the second child GTY hoped it's a girl.

 

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Just now, matrim said:
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ML and GTY had 4 sons in a row. When ML was pregnant with the second child GTY hoped it's a girl.

 

Lol. No wonder the evil stepmom wanted ML dead. 4 sons! Her own son will NOT have a chance at the title she's eyeing her whole life for!! :lol:

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7 hours ago, hello210 said:

similar to WuJi character in CDYY where he was framed for bad alcohol sales to the military).

 

Which drama is this??

 

4 hours ago, minglan1 said:

It was fun to see Molan being ignored /slighted when the girls came to visit after marriage.Her grand dreams of having the Sheng household pamper her because she married into the household of a count as legal wife just went pffft.Counting your chickens before they hatch can be extremely dissappinting.

SH true to his nature reprimanded ML for displaying her higher status during the visit even though she was courteous. Seems to have quickly forgotten that ML saved the family embarrassment by agreeing to marry GTY.Not sure if Autie Kang and DaNiang had anything to do with it.

 

 

Ima say it but can ML stand up to that idiot of a father of her's literally one of the worst characters of the show all he care's about is his own rep, if he died i would give 0 care's. Someone please tell me that she stands up to her father or tells him what she really thinks.

 

2 hours ago, linhlinh111 said:

Yeah right. I'm not sure if I like CB's drama version as much as in the book. In the book he was like the symbol of righteousness, justice and perfection, the pillar holding the Sheng family. He lived strictly by the code of honor, smart, strong-willed and never made a mistake. Damn he's more reliable than any other characters. I wonder where he got his genes from, cuz I'm sure he was nothing similar to Sheng Hong or Daniang. That scene where he caught Rulan with her suitor kinda destroyed his character. Someone as rational and level-headed as CB should never freak out over sth like that. But he's more sentimental in the drama so maybe they're trying to make him more humane by adding a little clumsiness? I like the book version though, just a personal preference.

 

I totally prefer the CB version on the show no character should be written like that.. a character without flaws is totally boring. I prefer his more humane emotions and personality over CB novel version that does not sound human.

 

1 hour ago, nichiwoohee said:

 

Damn. Even though that’s the truth, it must hurt GTY when ML said that

 

 

The audience ask for gty’s naughtiness to make a comeback :P 

 

I like cb’s drama character, fits well with gty’s playful drama character. I cant imagine book cb getting along well with drama gty. I like every comedy part that the drama incorporated. The timely funny music effect, the ml vs fat bandit, cb, sh and danniang quarrels. Makes the drama livelier imo

 

I think ML said that not to hurt GTY but to say that if we divorce there is no future for us , she does not want to leave him. Shes basically asking if he really thinks and believes that. I also agree with everything you said about CB.

 

35 minutes ago, matrim said:
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ML and GTY had 4 sons in a row. When ML was pregnant with the second child GTY hoped it's a girl.

 

 

I hope she has a girl i want the show to change it up ;p 

 

 

https://cdramabase.com/2019/01/20/news-corner-youku-stops-counting-online-views/

 

The online ratings for dramas have been a controversial topic for quite some time as they can easily be manipulated. People suspect that some fans of certain dramas or actors keep clicking on the videos to push the view count up. Following iQIYI, Youku now decided to take measures as well.

 

On January 18, online streaming platform Youku announced on their official Weibo account that they will immediately stop counting online views to create a more positive environment and avoid too much noise. They further explained that the online ratings can’t possibly adequately reflect the worth of a drama and its impact, and definitely shouldn’t be the only means of measurement.

Youku also revealed that the National Radio and Television Administration (NRTA, known as SAPPRFT until 2018) has created a new evaluation system which is currently being tested. They didn’t reveal how the new system works, though.

Youku calls this measure the first step into the right direction and expects more online streaming platforms to follow. They believe that an objective and fair rating system will allow the entertainment industry to shine more.

 

Might be hard for minglan to hit 10 billion views now due to this.

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9 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

Which drama is this??

 

 

Ima say it but can ML stand up to that idiot of a father of her's literally one of the worst characters of the show all he care's about is his own rep, if he died i would give 0 care's. Someone please tell me that she stands up to her father or tells him what she really thinks.

 

 

I totally prefer the CB version on the show no character should be written like that.. a character without flaws is totally boring. I prefer his more humane emotions and personality over CB novel version that does not sound human.

 

 

I think ML said that not to hurt GTY but to say that if we divorce there is no future for us , she does not want to leave him. Shes basically asking if he really thinks and believes that. I also agree with everything you said about CB.

 

 

I agree. ML deliberately said that to tell him she doesn't want it and he probably doesn't want it too, telling him that to also tell him not to send her away just because of some problems... She just want him to gain his confidence in fighting and figuring out solutions to the problems together, instead of protecting her by letting her go and not being with him during his low state.. 

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37 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

Which drama is this??

 

 

 

 

Cuo Dian Yuan Yang with ZLY and Qi Ji (bad guy in Cruel Romance). I think it was ZLY’s first lead role but the drama isn’t as well known as Legend of Lu Zhen which aired after. I liked it. 

 

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https://cdramabase.com/2019/01/20/news-corner-youku-stops-counting-online-views/

 

The online ratings for dramas have been a controversial topic for quite some time as they can easily be manipulated. People suspect that some fans of certain dramas or actors keep clicking on the videos to push the view count up. Following iQIYI, Youku now decided to take measures as well.

 

On January 18, online streaming platform Youku announced on their official Weibo account that they will immediately stop counting online views to create a more positive environment and avoid too much noise. They further explained that the online ratings can’t possibly adequately reflect the worth of a drama and its impact, and definitely shouldn’t be the only means of measurement.

Youku also revealed that the National Radio and Television Administration (NRTA, known as SAPPRFT until 2018) has created a new evaluation system which is currently being tested. They didn’t reveal how the new system works, though.

Youku calls this measure the first step into the right direction and expects more online streaming platforms to follow. They believe that an objective and fair rating system will allow the entertainment industry to shine more.

 

Might be hard for minglan to hit 10 billion views now due to this.

I don’t really understand about the online viewing issues. I get that some fans click multiple time for viewing numbers but I watch shows multiple times when they’re available online because they’re good. :wacko:

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1 hour ago, leeza77 said:
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Never said she's arrogant.. Domineering attitude can be seen in the trailers when she deal with the issue outside her household. Then there is a scene where ml out-maneuvered the stepmom whilst gty hiding outside (and mimicking) the stepmom white lotus speech. He's guarding her six. 

 

I was wondering what he was mumbling about because he looked proud/surprised. 

Just finished watching episode 40 with subs & when GTY said Bai family sends spies to his house my immediate thought was ‘Don’t worry your wife has experience in getting rid of household spies’:joy:

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16 minutes ago, darkphoenix123 said:

I was wondering what he was mumbling about because he looked proud/surprised. 

Just finished watching episode 40 with subs & when GTY said Bai family sends spies to his house my immediate thought was ‘Don’t worry your wife has experience in getting rid of household spies’:joy:

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Ha ha.. In this case she employed the stratagems of war.. Divide and conquer. Getting help fr nanny to cause unsatisfaction within the spies network cause a kitchen war and getting rid all of them in one shot.. Very Powerful our general ml:glasses:

 

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BTW, I'd like to see Shu- used in discussion of concubine born children instead of illegitimate. The latter might cause misunderstanding, as it has a connotation that the child is the result of a love affair outside marriage. In fact both concubines and their children are legitimate member of the family, albeit of inferior status. When there's no Di-son in the family, Shu-son can even become the heir. The best example is Sheng Hong, concubine born son, now head of the Sheng family.  

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I've been reading the novel, but is it possible for people who watched the raws to do a summary of the episode? Lol i am so excited. I do not like to watch the raws because I have no idea what'd being said, and i like the enjoyment of getting the subs. However I like summaries/recaps because it's a simple run-through of the episode.

 

I mainly comment on the episodes on Viki and do a review from there, but I've been reading this forum, for about a week now and finally wanted to engaged with you all. A saw a trailer of Minglan walking by QH and telling him to stop naming his kids after her (which is very freaking weird, like wtf dude :sweat:) I also saw how you guys stated that GTY presents the idea of an amicable seperation and Minglan is like "if you do this, I ain't coming back. Let's protect each other and watch one another's back"

 

These cuteness from GTY and Minglan is wonderful and the fact that GTY does not take a concubine in the future, and just loves Minglan alone is so very comforting. This series has proven to be one of my faves, along with Yanxi Palace.

 

Speaking of Yanxi Palace lol it is obvious Yu Zheng has a muse in Wu Jinyan. 

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45 minutes ago, historicalfictionftw said:

@Ditto very good point, ML might just do they same thing she did at her pavilion with the staff of spies

Seems like she speeds things up a bit this time! 

The last time she had a bit more time to play along with them.

Now she just gets rid of them like that, quick kill. Lol:lol:

 

And then she seems to move on to take care of all the assets?? 

I don't fully understand the previews myself. 

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3 hours ago, nichiwoohee said:

I like cb’s drama character, fits well with gty’s playful drama character. I cant imagine book cb getting along well with drama gty. I like every comedy part that the drama incorporated. The timely funny music effect, the ml vs fat bandit, cb, sh and danniang quarrels. Makes the drama livelier imo

Well, CB in the novel and CB in the drama are completely different characters. Novel CB didn't know GTY when they were young and thus did not become best friends afterwards. He spoke little and usually didn't involve in family matters, but when he did, his words carried weight because he's intelligent and sensible, respected by all family members. This characteristic foreshadowed his important role in the future incident of Grandma being poisoned. Drama CB was good natured, easy going and GTY's best friend, a kind of bridge between GTY and ML. This adaptation also influences GTY's personality, as in the novel he's basically a lone man when he's been cast out of Gu household, without a true friend to talk to. I'm not sure I like drama CB very much. I think there are too many comedic characters in Sheng family, with the only exception of ML and Grandma. 

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7 hours ago, dito said:

But in the drama the proposal was offered to CB, who knew both of his sisters very well...and knew ML was now Di daughter too. The question we are asking here is how could CB not know which sister GTY was talking about when Sheng Hong knew immediately it was ML.

This is why I said the drama writers were wrong to add this scene of the characters being confused as to who was the proposal for, which then created questions among the viewers about the CB's intelligence.:lol:

 

Well from a production point of view I understand.  They probably cut out a lot of HL's husband's scene.  Why hire an actor for days and days to says a few lines. I can imagine a producer saying 'why dont we just let CB bring the proposal, then we can cut out an actor and save?' Kkk. I agree it was wrong to change the characters.  Makes no sense at all.

 

 

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7 hours ago, sava2sava said:

@minglan1  So thats what SH was bent out if shape about.. We all know if that had been Molan he wouldn't have said a word.. Why throw a tiff with her thats her husbands way of pampering her.. If he was so bent out of shapoe take it up with your SIL not her she don't own those carriages..Also in that scene it seems like they were all there to get something from ML and GTY..  I think Big Mdm is envious of ML because she married richer then all the other legit daughters.. 

 

Yes it was wonderful seeing Molan realizing that both sister married better then she.. Molan knew she had to take a back seat to ML who she always thought that would never climb above her.. I think this is what SH is really mad about because in terms of status ML rates higher then him being married into the GU clan.. 

You are right DaNiang has a jealous streak and Molan has been forced to take a back seat.

I am not sure if SH cares about Molan like before in the absence of CL I am guessing this time it is about not making Rulan uncomfortable Aunty Kang and DaNiang might have been responsible in guiding his thoughts that way.

He had to give equal dowry to ML and Rulan so as to maintain the facade among people that both daughters are considered equally legitmate.He wants to keep that up and preserve peace in his household.As GTY said his children,family come second to maintaining his pride and status.

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3 minutes ago, matrim said:

Well, CB in the novel and CB in the drama are completely different characters. Novel CB didn't know GTY when they were young and thus did not become best friends afterwards. He spoke little and usually didn't involve in family matters, but when he did, his words carried weight because he's intelligent and sensible, respected by all family members. This characteristic foreshadowed his important role in the future incident of Grandma being poisoned. Drama CB was good natured, easy going and GTY's best friend, a kind of bridge between GTY and ML. This adaptation also influences GTY's personality, as in the novel he's basically a lone man when he's been cast out of Gu household, without a true friend to talk to. I'm not sure I like drama CB very much. I think there are too many comedic characters in Sheng family, with the only exception of ML and Grandma. 

Well there are so many villains in this drama. So, cb being an easy going characters is good to balance the evilness of those villains. 

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4 hours ago, m0us3y said:

Some people simply can't accept someone that's better off. She's just green with envy and trying to ruin the party. 

If only she knows GTY/ML partnership is like a SWAT team. GTY leading assault team, ML being the sniper at the back. 

Aunty Kang will regret messing with anyone dear to ML. Tsk tsk tsk. 

@m0us3y  CHEERS, This is the best description of this couple that has been described..:)  I love it..

 

CB and Xiaotao  conversation is a hoot but one have to ask is she that densed in the head.. She had no clue to what he was talking about when he was explaining to her about knowing right from wrong one and who to trust who not to trust.. In the end of the conversation she still didn't have a clue..  I can't ship shitou with her he'll have to think for her..But I guess thats what makes her cute because she's not bright at all..  I wonder what Shitou has to say about GTY family herichy now:lol:

 

Wow I didn't know that there was so many that tried to hinder that wedding. All the spies and enemies was all there. I see why so many was so jealous on how he went all out just for the concubine daughter.. I say she desreved every bit of if.. After being treated like the redheaded step child by her on father.. SH look at ML like she was even his child.. He didn't seem to happy about her wedding.. I bet 10 to 1 he was also in that hindring bunch right along with Big Mdm.. She raised RL so spoiled and she choose to be a scholar after all her pain stakingly work.  I guess SH tellig GTY to be a good role model to your children was because of his on guilt that he was never a good role model to her.. It would have been nice if he took GTY aside and told him to cherrish her because he never did..    

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8 hours ago, dito said:

ML and GTY , these 2 really have very weird understanding of courtship. GTY went all out on his scheme to impress ML with his skills. And as a schemer herself, ML would know quite well how much effort, time and money would've been spent to achieve his plans perfect execution....and result. How could she not be impressed? In the book even GTY was impressed by her after seeing her little scheme against her sister Molan.....when she threw mud on Molan's dress to stop her from going in the men's section.

So made for each other, these two.

 

No woman wants to be forced/cornered into marriage. She wants to be asked.  ML was impressed with him but needed a proposal. Thats why the proposal scene was important.  She can go all in of her own free will as his equal.

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@frenchfan Grandma and ML scenes are very endearing.It is full of warmth and brings a smile amidst the plotting intrigue.

SH and wife both have evil blind spots.CL was the former's and Ms.Kang is the latter's.

I was glad that they managed to show some genuine sister bonding before ML left for Gu household.

 

@ForgottenSoulx I hope SH gets an earful from someone for always being harsh and without consistent care for his own daughter ML .She has always been a help to him which he chooses to conviniently forget.

He also needs to kneel down in his ancestral hall and reflect how he messed up his household's power balance and caused misery to his own children.:D

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