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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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1 hour ago, leeza77 said:

Ohh..mhyyy:blush:..finally our long awaited one;...but seeing grandma left by her precious ML makes me so sad..:anguished:( dontwory gradma..I will teleport there and accompany you:D).

Love the conversation between ML and Rong..

Rong calling ML big sister., ml said it should be auntie or call her mother I think? But rong said she has a mother and ml is not her mom.,so ml just said call her daniang?(not sure).

Ml asked why she hvnt sleep yet..rong wants to see ml.rong wants to harm ml with her little stick.:lol:at last rong said she likes minglan.( thats only my undrestanding haha just trying)

Anyways why everytime gty laugh..im hearing like santa clouse:D his face when he saw rong sleepung on their bed:lol:on their first night:D.

 

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4 minutes ago, darkphoenix123 said:

After seeing the 2 trailers I realized they mixed the clips from the 2 episodes into both trailers. So Episode 39 will be CB catching Rulan and the fallout and convincing grandma to all ML to marry GTY. Episode 40 will be QH mum being turned down and being told abt ML marrying GTY, QH reaction and him turned away by grandma and Xiaotao. So marriage is probably on Friday.

 

@leeza77I didn’t realize you were using google translate. Thank you for translating as much as you have cuz I understand the headache google translate gives you.

Welcome. No worries. Use translator software. Some words can not be translated and even the software told me.. Hmm i can't translate that.. Ha ha

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45 minutes ago, linhlinh111 said:

Linniand doesn't own farmland from he main wife's dowry. They were some of Sheng family assets given to her by Sheng Hong when he still favoured her. She was mentioning Daniang to give Molan a big dowry when marrying her off.

Youe are right @linhlinh111  I miss read the subs.... Lol Thanks for the history on that era and explanation.  :D

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3 hours ago, zenya22 said:

I understand that she was doing her duty. I just quoted what grandma said about debt which for me refers to the negotiation in the works and the conditons and concessions for negotiation that were set during the talk of the Countess and Big Madam. The Shengs are transacting for the acceptance of Molan to be bride to the Liang 6th son as she was caught in a compromising situation, her mother spread the rumors, her reputation is in ruins and the family's reputation and honor are at stake.  If the Liang family does not accept Molan the Shengs would be ruined. So there is a condition (debt) created that was caused by someones actions and that condition demands or needs to be countered or fulfilled. The countess will accept Molan the damaged goods if the Shengs will add the pure and whole Minglan. Granny clearing the debt for me means that she needs to put down something or set her own conditions to counter or cancel the demands (debt) laid out on the table. I just thought that it could be a bigger dowry that is all. 

More than the dowry, I suspect granny used another way to convince liang's mother to accept Molan. Remember Minglan already told granny what she found out abt Liang's son's womanizing habit. I bet granny in turn threatened to exposed abt her son's dirty laundry (having a mistress pregnant with his child) that no respectable family wud want to marry off their daughter to the Liang's 6th son.

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1 hour ago, darkphoenix123 said:

Seeing his reaction to the news when his mum told him & those scene with GTY I am guessing he really will go down the vengeful ex-lover path! Does QH think before asking anything? I am guessing the news of the marriage between GTY & ML is spread around the town already and if it is broken & ML gets married to QH what would they say about her & the Sheng family? Did he think about that?

 

I dont think hes going to the vengeful path yet , GTY and QH are still not married at this point to seeing him make a last ditch effort to get her i understand.

 

1 hour ago, leeza77 said:
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Qh: you know my heart has been with ml. why did u promise sheng family to marry her. What's your intention? 

 

Gty: u still thinking about her. U know, you proposal for ml was undecided. Why do you hasten to promise her and finally broke your promise? Broke her heart? 

 

Qh: so, this time it's going to be sure. I'll go to her house to propose. 

 

Gty: i don't blame u for that either. I'm just saying, u have difficulty in marrying her. Don't blame me for you being too late. 

 

Qh: no, she can't. 

 

Gty: how do you know that i'm not.i am willing to go all the way to marry her. 

 

Qh :how do you know she is willing to marry u?

 

Gty go and ask ml. Ask also her grandma. 

 

 

 

You go GTY tell him whats up bish is to late and as GTY said hes willing to go all the way to marry her. 

53 minutes ago, Golden Flower said:

@ForgottenSoulx 

GTY then told CB to remind ML not to tell anyoneincluding the grandma that she came inside/into the palace“ this is exact translation of GTY’s last words to CB before getting on to carriage. That’s one of the points I was making about script not making sense. 

 

My word by word translation of what QH said to ML during their meeting after marriage:

Does he (GTY) like me (QH) cannot sleep many nights due to missing you” => meaning=> he loves her more than GTY. 

 

QH said similar thing to GTY before actual marriage. 

 

Those parts are badly written then i agree with you, was the bold part before or after GTY and ML got married. 

 

46 minutes ago, lxands said:

Yeah, I thought she wud see how her daughter's pathetic life gonna be after marrying a count household that she dream of so much..to bad she didnt live to see the miserable life she brought to her preciois daughter's life

 

Same i wanted her to see ML rise and become basically the queen of the outside palace. 

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5 hours ago, UnniSarah said:

Chingu you are correct revenge is best served cold. Ming Lan believed in an eye for an eye for example 1 corpse and 2 souls. Isn't that similar to Concubine Lin   ( 1 corpse and 2 souls)... Lol lol  at least she did not kill her sister too but in some way she did because she is now going to suffer and wish she was dead too. 

@UnniSarah  ML killed more then two stones.. Yes and eye for and eye exactly what concubine Lin did with her mother sevants same will happen to Lin servants.. Only two was beaten to death rest will be sold off as slaves.. In my opinion the old man did kill as he said.. He knew the punisher had those skills to beat a person to death.. When he found out exactly who she was that crush his heart.. Now with her being dead I guess he can sneakly replace big Mdm belongings back.. I'm hoping Mdm Liang kick Molan out.. I don't think Mo'er or Molan got the title of first wife because of the stain she came with it wouldn't suprise me if the countess will set out looking for a new main wife..

 

2 hours ago, Lunkera said:

Thanks for that clip. Older actress for Rong'er. Didn't understand anything but ML and Rong'er get along really well. GTY and ML is adorable. Felt sad for grandma.

@Lunkera  I felt so sad to see Granny cry out like that, She hated to let ML go but knew she had to for her very own future..

What I find strange is the expressions on step mom and sickly brothers faces, Wonder whats that all about.. Is they mad that GTY's wife comes from a very rich household and step mom mad about thety can't use any of her dowry.. I know Granny loaded her down with dowry gifts..  ML send off was way bigger then Mo'er, Which is not suprising that she didn;t show up showing off her so called countess title that may have turn her into concubine Mo'er.. 

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:lol: Rulan got caught a couple of times, ML saw first but didn’t say anything. At least, Rulan was still chaste and only held touched hands even though that’s still improper. Sheng family shenanigans at it again :lol:

 

Well @hello210  Is RL taking a page from Molan books to marry the man she wants..  

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11 hours ago, Lunkera said:

@leeza77 Are you able to translate the beginning of the clip and the end of the clip?. Not line by line just what they are talking about? both of ML and GTY conversations

 

 

Love this clip xD 

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There a 2-3 different clips and I have translated above epi 39 clip. I'm not a professional translator or native speaker but I think my Mandarin is ok. @leeza77I took a couple of your translated lines but fixed a few words.

 

CB: You have always been very busy these days. How come you have time today to come out to view flowers?

GTY: If there is good looking flowers, I will cut a bunch, you can take that flower bunch on behalf of me and give it to your sister.

GTY: If I were to able to marry your sister, I'm willing to do anything curry favor you. 

CB: good good. I now know your willingness and true-heart.

GTY: It is the truth. It is the truth.

 Then they heard crying sound...

Rulan: I cannot betray/ discard Sheng family. So, I can only betray you.

CB: Sheng family!

He then went looking for the place the sound coming from, fell down

CB: you, you, you, what are you looking at (to his servants), then asked his servants to back out. 

Then, GTY came and CB called GTY's literary name (Zhong Huy) and tried to prevent him seeing the couple.

Grandma: Is Rulan trying to elope?

Hai shi:  Grandma, It is definitely not. This marriage came from heaven (basically emperor already knew and gave his blessing) and Rulan already decided to get married. This meeting is just to say goodbye. Unfortunately, GTY who wanted to let his dead mother know of his upcoming marriage (GTY mom's spiritual tablet is at the temple) took CB along with him to the temple ended up seeing the couple. It is just bad luck. 

SH: basically, you little animal.

WS: What are you trying to do? (since SH was holding white cloth to hang Rulan)

SH: What I am doing? I'll let her die. Then, the whole family die together. I thought you were different from Molan. You still did this unfavorable bad thing and also let GTY see your secret meeting. What are we going to do with you being alive? It will be best if you are dead.

(Not sure who was getting beaten, may be RL's maid?)

Grandma: Don't you even think about it! You are also her father and how could you come up with this kind of idea? What kind of person is GTY? Can you trick him? Can he tolerate having sands in his eyes? (can he tolerate you tricking him?) 

SH: GTY said emperor already knew about this marriage

Grandma: then...Can emperor use knife to force my granddaughter to marry? 

WS: Outside, GTY only said that he would marry di daughter of Sheng family. He did not say the name of the girl. ML is already recorded under my name and also considered di daughter. We can let outsiders know, It has always been ML betrothed to Gu family and RL betrothed to Wen family. Like this, it will be good for both...no, it will be good for all three families.  

Grandma: you black-hearted bad couple! You cannot take away ML from me forcefully unless you kill me with blow to my head. 

Qh: you know my heart has been with ml. why did u promise sheng family to marry her. What's your intention? 

Gty: u still thinking about her? I thought you already gave up. You cannot blame me for your misfortune for not being able to propose to her before.

QH: It is not like for you, you must marry her.

GTY: How do you know what I'm thinking? (How do you know she isn't THE ONE for me?)

CB (voice over): My 6th sister is not a regular girl. You cannot look at her usual warm, quiet (doesn't fight),  obedient nature. She is very determined after she decided on something. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@sava2sava I think Molan became the main wife. But she's unfavored and i think she only gave birth to girls if it goes according to the novel. She will live a miserable life fighting against all the concubines

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@Golden Flower Thanks for the translation. Although the clip was separate. The preview video for 39-40 i was curious about since first GTY and ML talk and ML end up running away. At the end of that clip GTY talk and bow to ML. But i appreaciate the translation of that clip :) 

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5 minutes ago, Golden Flower said:

There a 2-3 different clips and I have translated above epi 39 clip. I'm not a professional translator or native speaker but I think my Mandarin is ok. @leeza77I took a couple of your translated lines but fixed a few words.

 

CB: You have always been very busy these days. How come you have time today to come out to view flowers?

GTY: If there is good looking flowers, I will cut a bunch, you can take that flower bunch on behalf of me and give it to your sister.

GTY: If I were to able to marry your sister, I'm willing to do anything curry favor you. 

CB: good good. I now know your willingness and true-heart.

GTY: It is the truth. It is the truth.

 Then they heard crying sound...

Rulan: I cannot betray/ discard Sheng family. So, I can only betray you.

CB: Sheng family!

He then went looking for the place the sound coming from, fell down

CB: you, you, you, what are you looking at (to his servants), then asked his servants to back out. 

Then, GTY came and CB called GTY's literary name (Zhong Huy) and tried to prevent him seeing the couple.

Grandma: Is Rulan trying to elope?

Hai shi:  Grandma, It is definitely not. This marriage came from heaven (basically emperor already knew and gave his blessing) and Rulan already decided to get married. This meeting is just to say goodbye. Unfortunately, GTY who wanted to let his dead mother know of his upcoming marriage (GTY mom's spiritual tablet is at the temple) took CB along with him to the temple ended up seeing the couple. It is just bad luck. 

SH: basically, you little animal.

WS: What are you trying to do? (since SH was holding white cloth to hang Rulan)

SH: What I am doing? I'll let her die. Then, the whole family die together. I thought you were different from Molan. You still did this unfavorable bad thing and also let GTY see your secret meeting. What are we going to do with you being alive? It will be best if you are dead.

Grandma: Don't you even think about it! You are also her father and how could you come up with this kind of idea? What kind of person is GTY? Can you trick him? Can he tolerate your doing? 

SH: GTY said emperor already knew about this marriage

Grandma: then...Can emperor use knife to force my granddaughter to marry him? 

WS: Outside, GTY only said that he would marry di daughter of Sheng family. He did not say the name of the girl. ML is already recorded under my name and also considered di daughter. 

Grandma: you black-hearted bad couple! You cannot take away ML from me forcefully unless you kill me with blow to my head. 

Qh: you know my heart has been with ml. why did u promise sheng family to marry her. What's your intention? 

Gty: u still thinking about her? I thought you already gave up. You cannot blame me for your misfortune for not being able to propose to her before.

QH: It is not like for you, you must marry her.

GTY: How do you know what I'm thinking? (How do you know she isn't THE ONE for me?

CB (voice over): My 6th sister is not a regular girl. You cannot look at her usual warm, quiet (doesn't fight),  obedient nature. She is very determined after she decided on something. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you so much for the translations! Looking forward to tomorrow’s episodes

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16 minutes ago, sava2sava said:

@UnniSarah  ML killed more then two stones.. Yes and eye for and eye exactly what concubine Lin did with her mother sevants same will happen to Lin servants.. Only two was beaten to death rest will be sold off as slaves.. In my opinion the old man did kill as he said.. He knew the punisher had those skills to beat a person to death.. When he found out exactly who she was that crush his heart.. Now with her being dead I guess he can sneakly replace big Mdm belongings back.. I'm hoping Mdm Liang kick Molan out.. I don't think Mo'er or Molan got the title of first wife because of the stain she came with it wouldn't suprise me if the countess will set out looking for a new main wife..

 

@Lunkera  I felt so sad to see Granny cry out like that, She hated to let ML go but knew she had to for her very own future..

What I find strange is the expressions on step mom and sickly brothers faces, Wonder whats that all about.. Is they mad that GTY's wife comes from a very rich household and step mom mad about thety can't use any of her dowry.. I know Granny loaded her down with dowry gifts..  ML send off was way bigger then Mo'er, Which is not suprising that she didn;t show up showing off her so called countess title that may have turn her into concubine Mo'er.. 

Well @hello210  Is RL taking a page from Molan books to marry the man she wants..  

Madam Liang cant kick out Molan now its to late even if she wanted shes already the main wife i think and when ML married GTY the Sheng's + GTY are way more powerful than Liang's so they couldn't throw her out and insult the shengs and GTY.

 

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Grandma: then...Can emperor use knife to force my granddaughter to marry him? 

WS: Outside, GTY only said that he would marry di daughter of Sheng family. He did not say the name of the girl. ML is already recorded under my name and also considered di daughter. 

Grandma: you black-hearted bad couple! You cannot take away ML from me forcefully unless you kill me with blow to my head. 

Qh: you know my heart has been with ml. why did u promise sheng family to marry her. What's your intention? 

Gty: u still thinking about her? I thought you already gave up. You cannot blame me for your misfortune for not being able to propose to her before.

QH: It is not like for you, you must marry her.

GTY: How do you know what I'm thinking? (How do you know she isn't THE ONE for me?

CB (voice over): My 6th sister is not a regular girl. You cannot look at her usual warm, quiet (doesn't fight),  obedient nature. She is very determined after she decided on something. 

 

 

 

 

Omg the Grandmother even stands up to emperor i love her so much i think she is easily the best character for me in this drama sorry MIng Lan and GTY. 

 

Also i love how the grandmother throws the cup and even that does not break Madam Liang looks so scared haha. 

 

Also love that CB truly does know what ML is like as well.

 

 

 

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Hello everyone 

I have a question. I recall at the beginning GTY was close to Hulan’s husband that was how he was introduced to Ming Lan’s Family in the drama. But we never saw him talk to Hulan’s husband in the drama. Is the friendship behind the scene or nonexistent now???? 

 

Another question 

how come I didn’t get the chance to see ML’s grandmother talk to Madam Liang??

I did watch episode 30-32 with subs. What is going on here??:tears::tears::bawling:

 

 

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2 hours ago, darkphoenix123 said:

I feel bad for him sure but did he think grandma would agree to break ML’s marriage with GTY & allow her to marry him after all that happened? ML is her precious granddaughter and she saw her hurt & become a joke with others because of what happened so why would she agree. I am glad grannie is guarding her so well

 

Nice answer GTY! BTW what was GTY and ML talking abt in the beginning & the end if you don’t mind translating?

I'm a bit lost here since I just watch up to ep 34 raw but I'm still curious to know..

Spoiler

Does QH still has plan to marry ML?I thought he has give up on her since he is already married to Princess Whatever? Dont tell me he wants to take her as his concubine? Or did something happen to his princess wife?

 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

Hello everyone 

I have a question. I recall at the beginning GTY was close to Hulan’s husband that was how he was introduced to Ming Lan’s Family in the drama. But we never saw him talk to Hulan’s husband in the drama. Is the friendship behind the scene or nonexistent now???? 

 

Another question 

how come I didn’t get the chance to see ML’s grandmother talk to Madam Liang??

I did watch episode 30-32 with subs. What is going on here??:tears::tears::bawling:

 

 

 

Yeah no-one saw it were just guessing what she said during the convo i wish it was added more grandma bad richard simmons missed ;p 

45 minutes ago, dramaninja said:

I am enjoying this drama,I also love have active it is  here too. :innocent:

 

yeah im happy considering good drama's normally get looked over for more teeny/drama/good looking type drama's.

39 minutes ago, lxands said:

I'm a bit lost here since I just watch up to ep 34 raw but I'm still curious to know..

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Does QH still has plan to marry ML?I thought he has give up on her since he is already married to Princess Whatever? Dont tell me he wants to take her as his concubine? Or did something happen to his princess wife?

 

 

 

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Princess died and he passed the exam he can now have a main wife ,his mother finally agreed but GTY proposed marriage first so both his mother and him were late so QH tried to get GTY to drop it or something. 

 

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17 hours ago, Maria Brimstone said:

He must've wanted to strangle CB so badly after he made a giant mistake lol

 

LOL... I think thats the reason he will bring CB to the temple to caught RL red handed and swap his marriage to ML.. In GTY mind, perhaps he think CB is a blockhead.. LOL

 

14 hours ago, darkphoenix123 said:

I kinda pity Sheng Hong. Finding out about Rulan & her sweetheart so soon after the thing with Molan...he will be having deja vu tomorrow 

 

LOL.. His reaction catching Molan is epic.. hahahha.. Finally the evil concubine Lin died.. I hope SH get smarter.. I wish to see more Hualan screen time.. I truly pity her in the book and Hualan truly adored ML..

 

I know some of you dislike Rulan character, but I really like her interaction with ML on ep 37.. When ML caught her meeting up with the scholar at night, they end up having pillow talk n sharing secrets just like sisters.. Yaa, Rulan is the "bossy" sister hahaha just like my big sis.. When you have sisters in your siblings, Rulan characters is considered as "normal".. LOL.. She may always said that ML is illegitimate bcoz she was taught by her mom that her status as di daughter is better than shu daughter.. Being a silly and straightforward person, that's why she always mentioned ML as shu daughter.. 

 

Im glad, the Rulan in the drama is much more lovable that Novel Rulan.. hahaha.. Rulan in the novel just like the bullying type of big sis..

 

In Ep 37, I can also see that ML is sincerely worried about Rulan when she found out that Rulan like the scholar.. Obviously, this scene proof that ML cares and have sisterly feelings towards Rulan.. In the novel, ML have much more interaction with Hualan compared to Rulan and ML feels closer to Hualan. It seems like the drama have a little changes here and there but I'm loving it so far.. 

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37 minutes ago, Golden Flower said:

There a 2-3 different clips and I have translated above epi 39 clip. I'm not a professional translator or native speaker but I think my Mandarin is ok. @leeza77I took a couple of your translated lines but fixed a few words.

 

CB: You have always been very busy these days. How come you have time today to come out to view flowers?

GTY: If there is good looking flowers, I will cut a bunch, you can take that flower bunch on behalf of me and give it to your sister.

GTY: If I were to able to marry your sister, I'm willing to do anything curry favor you. 

CB: good good. I now know your willingness and true-heart.

GTY: It is the truth. It is the truth.

 Then they heard crying sound...

Rulan: I cannot betray/ discard Sheng family. So, I can only betray you.

CB: Sheng family!

He then went looking for the place the sound coming from, fell down

CB: you, you, you, what are you looking at (to his servants), then asked his servants to back out. 

Then, GTY came and CB called GTY's literary name (Zhong Huy) and tried to prevent him seeing the couple.

Grandma: Is Rulan trying to elope?

Hai shi:  Grandma, It is definitely not. This marriage came from heaven (basically emperor already knew and gave his blessing) and Rulan already decided to get married. This meeting is just to say goodbye. Unfortunately, GTY who wanted to let his dead mother know of his upcoming marriage (GTY mom's spiritual tablet is at the temple) took CB along with him to the temple ended up seeing the couple. It is just bad luck. 

SH: basically, you little animal.

WS: What are you trying to do? (since SH was holding white cloth to hang Rulan)

SH: What I am doing? I'll let her die. Then, the whole family die together. I thought you were different from Molan. You still did this unfavorable bad thing and also let GTY see your secret meeting. What are we going to do with you being alive? It will be best if you are dead.

Grandma: Don't you even think about it! You are also her father and how could you come up with this kind of idea? What kind of person is GTY? Can you trick him? Can he tolerate your doing? 

SH: GTY said emperor already knew about this marriage

Grandma: then...Can emperor use knife to force my granddaughter to marry him? 

WS: Outside, GTY only said that he would marry di daughter of Sheng family. He did not say the name of the girl. ML is already recorded under my name and also considered di daughter. 

Grandma: you black-hearted bad couple! You cannot take away ML from me forcefully unless you kill me with blow to my head. 

Qh: you know my heart has been with ml. why did u promise sheng family to marry her. What's your intention? 

Gty: u still thinking about her? I thought you already gave up. You cannot blame me for your misfortune for not being able to propose to her before.

QH: It is not like for you, you must marry her.

GTY: How do you know what I'm thinking? (How do you know she isn't THE ONE for me?)

CB (voice over): My 6th sister is not a regular girl. You cannot look at her usual warm, quiet (doesn't fight),  obedient nature. She is very determined after she decided on 

Love fiesty grandma who looks out for her ML with all her being.I love the actress who plays the role,she makes the character come alive.

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I take back what I said about GTY not being a schemer! That look on GTY's face when CB discovers RL and her bf together. :lol::lol:   Acting all innocent and confused when he's the one that set up the whole scene and led CB to catch them in the act.  Not sure if he planned for them to be there or just knew that they were going to be there so he purposely led CB to the temple that day.

 

The trailer for episode 40 is out and GTY finally tells ML of his true intentions towards her and how he plotted his way to get her.  I can't wait for the next few episodes!

 

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14 minutes ago, ForgottenSoulx said:

 

Yeah no-one saw it were just guessing what she said during the convo i wish it was added more grandma bad richard simmons missed ;p 

 

yeah im happy considering good drama's normally get looked over for more teeny/drama/good looking type drama's.

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Princess died and he passed the exam he can now have a main wife ,his mother finally agreed but GTY proposed marriage first so both his mother and him were late so QH tried to GTY to drop it or something. 

 

Spoiler

How did she died?

 

Honestly in the beginning I wonder if I wud want to watch a drama full of women's rivalry, but after I started, I just cant stop. I think all actors & actresses are perfect for their roles. I hate Molan but I like the actress who play the role. She nail it.

 

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3 hours ago, leeza77 said:

Awwwwwwwwwwww She is so beautiful.  And he is happy.  The ones who were not happy were the GU family hahaha.......served them right.  A bunch of no good idiots.  Poor grandma.  She cried and I started crying too.  Even Papa and Mama Sheng cried.  I can' t wait for this episode.  I want to see her marry with a bang!  

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