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[Current Mainland Chinese Drama 2018] The Story of Ming Lan 庶女明兰传 / 知否?知否?应是绿肥红瘦

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:lol: Rulan got caught a couple of times, ML saw first but didn’t say anything. At least, Rulan was still chaste and only held touched hands even though that’s still improper. Sheng family shenanigans at it again :lol:

 

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6 minutes ago, darkphoenix123 said:

My,my! Can’t wait for tomorrow!

What crap was QH spouting to GTY?

Can anyone translate the trailer please?

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Mu guess is he asked gty to let go of ml and gty refused. 

 

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45 minutes ago, leeza77 said:

 

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!! Why am I grinning so wide watching that last bit between GTY and ML talking!!! :love:

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11 minutes ago, darkphoenix123 said:

My,my! Can’t wait for tomorrow!

What crap was QH spouting to GTY?

Can anyone translate the trailer please?

There was an clip in an old trailer that had a bit of that part that was subbed. QH said he didn’t think GTY was good enough for ML and GTY responded back saying How do you know I’m not good enough for ML. (Since only CB knows how GTY really was in the past, not counting the present Emperor thing). Don’t fully know the rest though.

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@leeza77

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LOL didn't notice first that Rong'er was asleep in the bed :D . She crashed their wedding night. But i honestly don't think ML is fully prepared yet anyway :D 

 

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3 minutes ago, hello210 said:

There was an clip in an old trailer that had a bit of that part that was subbed. QH said he didn’t think GTY was good enough for ML and GTY responded back saying How do you know I’m not good enough for ML. (Since only CB knows how GTY really was in the past, not counting the present Emperor thing). Don’t fully know the rest though.

Seeing his reaction to the news when his mum told him & those scene with GTY I am guessing he really will go down the vengeful ex-lover path! Does QH think before asking anything? I am guessing the news of the marriage between GTY & ML is spread around the town already and if it is broken & ML gets married to QH what would they say about her & the Sheng family? Did he think about that?

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9 minutes ago, leeza77 said:
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Mu guess is he asked gty to let go of ml and gty refused. 

 

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And gty tolf qh don't blame for your late coming. Qh asked how do you know she is willing to marry u? Gty answered go and ask ml. Ask also her grandma. 

 

1 minute ago, darkphoenix123 said:

Seeing his reaction to the news when his mum told him & those scene with GTY I am guessing he really will go down the vengeful ex-lover path! Does QH think before asking anything? I am guessing the news of the marriage between GTY & ML is spread around the town already and if it is broken & ML gets married to QH what would they say about her & the Sheng family? Did he think about that?

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I think that the part where he went to ml house to ask her whether she really willing to marry gty. Unfortunately ml was guard by xiotao and grandma. Two fierce tiger and bear. Ha ha. Too late. 

 

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5 minutes ago, Lunkera said:

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LOL didn't notice first that Rong'er was asleep in the bed :D . She crashed their wedding night. But i honestly don't think ML is fully prepared yet anyway :D 

 

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Ohhh.. Nothing can stop gty. He's been admiring for a long time. Ha ha

 

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3 minutes ago, leeza77 said:
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And gty tolf qh don't blame for your late coming. Qh asked how do you know she is willing to marry u? Gty answered go and ask ml. Ask also her grandma. 

 

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I think that the part where he went to ml house to ask her whether she really willing to marry gty. Unfortunately ml was guard by xiotao and grandma. Two fierce tiger and bear. Ha ha. Too late. 

 

I feel bad for him sure but did he think grandma would agree to break ML’s marriage with GTY & allow her to marry him after all that happened? ML is her precious granddaughter and she saw her hurt & become a joke with others because of what happened so why would she agree. I am glad grannie is guarding her so well

 

Nice answer GTY! BTW what was GTY and ML talking abt in the beginning & the end if you don’t mind translating?

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With GTY she doesn't have to carry her facade all the time since GTY is one of the very few that knows her true self. She will atleast have more freedom as GTY's wife than any other man's wife. Also They have both suffered in their respective families and share true understanding of eachother. They are also both smart and cunning which is why they suit eachother very much. I felt the same way in Yanxi Palace between WYL and QL.

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10 hours ago, Golden Flower said:

I'm not sure it was mentioned in the book. Her dowry could have been less than Rulan and Hulan though even if grandma gave her some since her biological mom doesn't have any left for her except that one silver bangle. 

 

Actually ML's dowry was mentioned in the book. Bc the Sheng family used ML to replace Rulan (they didn't know about GTY'con) also they wanted to kiss GTY's richard simmons, they gave Rulan and ML the same amount of dowry, Grandma also gave most of her personal assets to ML, so ML was married off with a hefty sum of money.

 

10 hours ago, hello210 said:

@Golden Flower I agree. I don’t mind that he will love ML forever in the novel since he was honorable, kept it to himself and moved on with career and family. But if the drama goes and has him tell ML that he loves her more than GTY and misses her after she gets married, that just turned him into the typical second lead who’s love went beyond the boundaries. Someone else mentioned QH being part of a faction against GTY & the new Emperor, so i’m hoping that’s not true and it doesn’t get turned into the “unobtainable love turned second lead short term vengeful” cliche. 

I too hope the drama won't destroy QH character. Despite how much I like him, his role ends at ML's wedding and he shouldn't appear much in ML's life after that, maybe okay sometimes as guest. But if ML is not yet married then he's free to try.

 

4 hours ago, UnniSarah said:

Well said chingu @cherubstomato..... I can never pity Molan and Concubine Lin. I believe Concubine Lin and both her children are very much like her. It's in their DNA, they have no love for their father who doted on them.  You have two parents who dote on you, shouldn't you have respect for them. Shouldn't you be loyal to the one who cloth you and buys you anything you need. Ironically the one who controls the purse strings is the mother, now I need to strike that from my opinion. Shouldn't you be loyal to the one who's reputation that is important so that can keep you living in style??? Molan choosing to listen to her mother is beacause of 1. She has seen her mother control their father. 2. Her mother always get's her way 3. Mother owns store and farmland which came from Main Wife's dowry

Linniand doesn't own farmland from he main wife's dowry. They were some of Sheng family assets given to her by Sheng Hong when he still favoured her. She was mentioning Daniang to give Molan a big dowry when marrying her off.

 

In that time period, a women's dowry came from 4 main source: part of her father's family assets, part of her birth mother's dowry (optional), part of the main wife's dowry and some extra gifts from loving elders in the family (optional). According to the rule, the main wife was the official mother of all of her husband's children. A child had the responsibility to be filial to his/her father's main wife first, and their birth mother came second. Normally, concubines were not allowed to raise their own children but the main wife would. In Sheng family, CF and Molan could live with Linniang cuz Sheng Hong favoured her and he worried Daniang wouldn't take good care of them (this was against etiquette). So it's was the main's wife duty to prepare all dowries and betrothed gifts for all sons and daughters, although of course shu children would get less than di children, and give them a small part of her dowry. So Daniang was obliged to give parts of her dowry to all 3 daughters, but bc she hated Molan, she only gave her very little while ML got the same amount as Rulan.

 

Back then, children were valued very much based on who raised them. For example, ML was the least favoured daughter in the Sheng family, however when seeking marriage, she would have a higher status than Molan, cuz she was raised by Grandma, who is a respectable noble women, while Molan was raised by a concubine. Concubines were considered low status, so daughters who were raised by them were not really highly regarded. Linniang was a narrow-minded women trying to keep her children instead of giving them to Daniang, thus ruined their marriage prospect. Maybe Linniang was so pampered by Sheng Hong so she felt so powerful in the house, but from an outsider's POV, she was just a lowly concubines while Daniang was the main wife coming from a family with status, thus Daniang was more connected within the circle. If Molan had been raised by Daniang then her chance in marriage would have raised significantly.

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19 minutes ago, darkphoenix123 said:

I feel bad for him sure but did he think grandma would agree to break ML’s marriage with GTY & allow her to marry him after all that happened? ML is her precious granddaughter and she saw her hurt & become a joke with others because of what happened so why would she agree. I am glad grannie is guarding her so well

 

Nice answer GTY! BTW what was GTY and ML talking abt in the beginning & the end if you don’t mind translating?

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Qh: you know my heart has been with ml. why did u promise sheng family to marry her. What's your intention? 

 

Gty: u still thinking about her. U know, you proposal for ml was undecided. Why do you hasten to promise her and finally broke your promise? Broke her heart? 

 

Qh: so, this time it's going to be sure. I'll go to her house to propose. 

 

Gty: i don't blame u for that either. I'm just saying, u have difficulty in marrying her. Don't blame me for you being too late. 

 

Qh: no, she can't. 

 

Gty: how do you know that i'm not.i am willing to go all the way to marry her. 

 

Qh :how do you know she is willing to marry u?

 

Gty go and ask ml. Ask also her grandma. 

 

 

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@leeza77 Are you able to translate the beginning of the clip and the end of the clip?. Not line by line just what they are talking about? both of ML and GTY conversations

 

 

Love this clip xD 

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4 minutes ago, Lunkera said:

@leeza77 Are you able to translate the beginning of the clip and the end of the clip?. Not line by line just what they are talking about? both of ML and GTY conversations

 

 

Love this clip xD 

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Use translator.. Ha ha. My head will explode. 

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On 1/14/2019 at 2:04 AM, cherubstomato said:

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I haven’t been so aggravated as I  am now for not being able to understand Mandarin .. lol ... the trailers for ep 39 & 40 has made me very agitated and impatient ! Lol .. someone please help me out of my misery by translating ,at least some bits of it ..

Thank you in advance ❤️

 

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4 minutes ago, daebak42 said:

I haven’t been so aggravated as I  am now for not being able to understand Mandarin .. lol ... the trailers for ep 39 & 40 has made me very agitated and impatient ! Lol .. someone please help me out of my misery by translating ,at least some bits of it ..

Thank you in advance ❤️

 

I especially want to know what GTY was saying to ML by the tree that caused him to bow 

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@ForgottenSoulx 

GTY then told CB to remind ML not to tell anyoneincluding the grandma that she came inside/into the palace“ this is exact translation of GTY’s last words to CB before getting on to carriage. That’s one of the points I was making about script not making sense. 

 

My word by word translation of what QH said to ML during their meeting after marriage:

”Does he (GTY) like me (QH) cannot sleep many nights due to missing you” => meaning=> he loves her more than GTY. 

 

QH said similar thing to GTY before actual marriage. 

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After seeing the 2 trailers I realized they mixed the clips from the 2 episodes into both trailers. So Episode 39 will be CB catching Rulan and the fallout and convincing grandma to all ML to marry GTY. Episode 40 will be QH mum being turned down and being told abt ML marrying GTY, QH reaction and him turned away by grandma and Xiaotao. So marriage is probably on Friday.

 

@leeza77I didn’t realize you were using google translate. Thank you for translating as much as you have cuz I understand the headache google translate gives you.

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On 1/15/2019 at 5:52 AM, linhlinh111 said:

Ep 33: Linniang's death was a surprise. Thought she might hang around a little more.

Yeah, I thought she wud see how her daughter's pathetic life gonna be after marrying a count household that she dream of so much..too bad she didnt live to see the miserable life she brought to her precious daughter's life

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