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16 hours ago, deltos said:

And just wait until Why RU?  starts filiming..the whole Saint/Zee...that's going to be fun to watch too....

 

I love what I've seen so far. :)

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16 hours ago, deltos said:

 I think there will be rainbows unicorns and bubble gum all the way...as long as fans let them do their job and not try to make it harder with rumors etc... The press for J9 to be a cpl is huge...I always think, " if they are a real cpl...you'll  see even less than you do now ! Being a cpl doesn't give you more access...it actually give you less.." so stick with the fanstasy...

I think not many people come to such conclusion. (Tbh before i heard it from you i haven't thought about it this way too.) For them there is simple logic chain: boys look good together, they easily hug and cutely tease each other - they should be in relationship. Everything rest doesn't matter.:D

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Sometimes i think about fandom how about playground for grown up. They (we) all have fun here, watch movies/series, discuss things, share emotions which sometimes can be not really reasonable. And of course there can be silly jokes and argue about a right way to play this "game". And as children do with dolls and action figures adults take characters or actors and create their own stories. But! if there is serious topic comes up many fans put out themselves from fantasy world and show themselves as thinking and reasonable people. This is the main reason why for me it is hard to make assumptions about fans. Like one day i see a fan writing "oooh, friends can't look at each other this way, they have a thing for each other for sure.. aaaah, get married already!" and some other day the same person says "yes, i know they actors, it's their job, their privet life is their privet life and not my business". But there is also always people who like to say "girlfriend is not a wall - she can be moved away" (it's real saying, i heard it not once or twice)). ...

It seems i was carried away with all "fans are this, fans are that" again.:lol: I forgot how i was going to conclude this and what was writing it for...:sweat_smile:

But we can't deny that in a way fans are kinda being provoked with all this fan service. J9 are almost inseparable now, so of course fans are kinda on fire about it.:wacko: And this is why i have mentioned about me getting worry. *sigh* And yeah, best way to continue observing J9 (and other boys) being like this is not to push to hard with own illusions.

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56 minutes ago, aniola said:

I think not many people come to such conclusion. (Tbh before i heard it from you i haven't thought about it this way too.) For them there is simple logic chain: boys look good together, they easily hug and cutely tease each other - they should be in relationship. Everything rest doesn't matter.:D

OMG. what a study in relationship building. Only looks matter...`well I guess when I was 16...that was my mantra...only hot guys matter..no Brain required...not much has changed since I have become an adult...except the part about the Brain...it does matter  the most ! 

1 hour ago, aniola said:

But we can't deny that in a way fans are kinda being provoked with all this fan service. J9 are almost inseparable now, so of course fans are kinda on fire about it.:wacko: And this is why i have mentioned about me getting worry. *sigh* And yeah, best way to continue observing J9 (and other boys) being like this is not to push to hard with own illusions.

 Yes that's very true...the best skill these guys, BL actors especially can develop is the ability to "read the room " really take time to know who their fans are. Like, when I read..." I gotta do my homework". that tells me a lot about who is in the room...:lol: I haven't done "homework" in quite a few years so I know the lived experience is going to be different.. Doesn't mean they don't have something valuable to offer...it means the ability to speak from work experience ( everyday 8-12 hours ) is not in their wheel house. 

And maybe we spoke to soon...one of the unicorn's horns has been cut off !

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This time...the situation was with Pavel...the director got involved ( cause fans told him) and there was much hew and outcry...like Joong it consumed many tweets and was ead by the same handful of people. They did it to Joong, and now Pavel. Then they go dark and change their twitter handle so (they think) you don't know who they are...so sad...destroying someone's career for " likes ". That's the dark side of fandom.

 

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33 minutes ago, deltos said:

OMG. what a study in relationship building. Only looks matter...

Well, everything is always more simple in a playground than in real life.:D

 

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46 minutes ago, deltos said:

one of the unicorn's horns has been cut off !

It will grow back.:)

I followed both situations, but probably not deep enough cos i haven't read anything about it being deliberately organised.

With Joong i thought everything was overreacted. From my point of view he did nothing wrong (his fault was mostly being unexperienced in what fandom and fans are).

With Pavel i get that some people could be upset since using the word is sensitive topic indeed. But he was told about it, he apologized, that should be the end. For director it would have been more wisely do not get involved. But it was ended peacefully too.

Do you know what i don't like the most in the both cases? Bunch of comments with "it's ok, everyone makes mistakes, most important thing is to learn from it". And all kind of such general words with the same morality. It is good words for sure, true ones. But for me they have kind of parent/teacher vibe, and i'm not sure it's fan's place to speak with boys like that. It feels like they generously forgave them, kinda looking down on them. (I hope you get what i mean.:sweatingbullets:) I'm pretty sure most of the fans didn't mean it sound like this and had in mind only supporting boys. Or maybe it is just me who see this comments that way.

 

 

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1 hour ago, aniola said:

Well, everything is always more simple in a playground than in real life.:D

 

I'm ded !   Too funny

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Not deliberately organized..however when the same names keep cropping up..you have to wonder- there is  no such thing as coincidence. I thought with both there was over-reaction.  Let's be clear..most of those fans don't listen to hardcore rap..so there is a lack of understanding about that music and the lyrics...I tell you what Pavel was singing was light weight compared to some of the stuff I've heard.  His mistake was not knowing the crowd and doing a selfie singing... Joong again, stuff you do in private stuff you do in public..and understanding that they are  followed so closely that there isn't any room to breathe sadly it's the nature of the business... for me, the bigger problem is that many of these female fans don't understand that these are guys...they are not dolls to play with...they get away with this stuff on social media...but it wouldn't play out like this in the real world. I think the guys need to go dark for a cpl days...off the grid no lives, no selfies, nothing...then come back with a renewed understanding of fandoms...the good, the bad, and the ugly..:ph34r: <steps off soapbox>

 

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17 hours ago, deltos said:

I thought with both there was over-reaction.

Also such things are quick to go viral. And together it is BOOM!:scream:

 

17 hours ago, deltos said:

I tell you what Pavel was singing was light weight compared to some of the stuff I've heard.

But the problem was not with the song but with the one particular word, wasn't it? (I didn't listen, but if i would i didn't even notice "the problem" anyway.)

When i'd been scrolling comments under Pavel's apologize letter i found comment which i particularly like. 

 

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Kinda: just stay and be beau.. handsome.:D

 

17 hours ago, deltos said:

I thought with both there was over-reaction.

Not sure how it will help them to see what fandom is.

But seems not boys but director have followed your advice.;)

 

 

17 hours ago, deltos said:

<steps off soapbox>

I've seen you using this figure of speech(? or it is not?) before, but i don't really understand what you've meant by that.:lol:

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We haven't gone off-topic since it's all about 2m2-fandom, but i thought i'll add something pleasurable for eyes and more suitable for the topic we're in.:lol: 

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1 hour ago, aniola said:

 

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Also such things are quick to go viral. And together it is BOOM!:scream:

 

 

But the problem was not with the song but with the one particular word, wasn't it? (I didn't listen, but if i would i didn't even notice "the problem" anyway.)

When i'd been scrolling comments under Pavel's apologize letter i found comment which i particularly like. 

 

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Kinda: just stay and be beau.. handsome.:D

 

 

Not sure how it will help them to see what fandom is.

But seems not boys but director have followed your advice.;)

 

 

I've seen you using this figure of speech(? or it is not?) before, but i don't really understand what you've meant by that.:lol:

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We haven't gone off-topic since it's all about 2m2-fandom, but i thought i'll add something pleasurable for eyes and more suitable for the topic we're in.:lol: 

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I’m hypnotised. Can’t stop watching it! :blink: :D

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2 hours ago, aniola said:

 

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Also such things are quick to go viral. And together it is BOOM!:scream:

 

 

But the problem was not with the song but with the one particular word, wasn't it? (I didn't listen, but if i would i didn't even notice "the problem" anyway.)

When i'd been scrolling comments under Pavel's apologize letter i found comment which i particularly like. 

 

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Kinda: just stay and be beau.. handsome.:D

 

 

Not sure how it will help them to see what fandom is.

But seems not boys but director have followed your advice.;)

 

 

I've seen you using this figure of speech(? or it is not?) before, but i don't really understand what you've meant by that.:lol:

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We haven't gone off-topic since it's all about 2m2-fandom, but i thought i'll add something pleasurable for eyes and more suitable for the topic we're in.:lol: 

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I usually don't quote gifs...but this bare's repeating....isn't that right @Kim Soo-Lee :P

 

Back in the 1800's  when a politician or any had something to say in public...they would get a soap box ( crate that soap was shipped in) and stand on it a crowd so they could be heard and seen and make their personal declamations or say what they wanted to about and issue.  " Standing on a Soap Box"...usually means it is  a personal POV to which people can agree or disagree. Sometimes I get a case of righteous indignation and have to say something...:lol:

 

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Yes the word was the trigger however, most rap contains that and more...where he made the mistake was posting him singing and saying the words...it wasn't the serious in that he was not calling someone that word...which put a whole different kinda spin on it. And perhaps if he knew the significance of the word...he would not have posted the video.  He can sing what ever he wants...what I do find interesting is that the same twit people who launched this beat down campaign on twitter...can't post with out using some gif of people of color...which isn't much better...so there's that.  I have problems apologizing for something I didn't know...not to mention some of those " B's" ( sorry )...didn't want to accept the apology...what did they want ? Oh I know personal attention...him to DM them and personally apologize.  

Yeah I was pleased to see him do that...wished the guys had followed suit...a 24 hour moratorium would have been healthy and sent a message I cannot be controlled by a 16 year...( that's how old several are...)

 

 

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25 minutes ago, deltos said:

it wasn't the serious in that he was not calling someone that word...

Good point. The importance is not only fact of saying but also how and why it was said.

 

1 hour ago, deltos said:

I have problems apologizing for something I didn't know...

It makes sense. I think best outcome is polite quick apology. Like:

- Oh no, you shouldn't say/do this. It's considered rude/not right/offensive here.

- I'm (so) sorry, didn't know about it.

- That's ok, just have it in mind in the future.

- I will, thanks.

And that's all. No drama.

 

28 minutes ago, deltos said:

a 24 hour moratorium would have been healthy and sent a message I cannot be controlled by a 16 year...( that's how old several are...)

Now i get why you want them to go silent on social media. To teach some fans a lesson. Not sure it will work though. For that moratorium should last more than a day i think. (Or maybe i just have lack of understanding "true" fans and they really have hard time if they don't get something new from/about their idol at least once a day.)-_-

 

 

1 hour ago, deltos said:

" Standing on a Soap Box"...usually means it is  a personal POV to which people can agree or disagree.

Thanks. Now i know what to imagine if you will mention soapbox again.:P

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1 hour ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

I’m hypnotised. Can’t stop watching it! :blink: :D

That was the purpose.:naughty:

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7 minutes ago, aniola said:

 (Or maybe i just have lack of understanding "true" fans and they really have hard time if they don't get something new from/about their idol at least once a day.)-_-

Well when it rains...everybody get's wet..( call this metaphor Wednesday..lol).  Maybe those obsessive everyday fans need a break too...it's not healthy...it's kinda like someone addicted to drugs...gotta have it everyday...not a good thing...so really everyone benefits stepping back for 24/48 hours...hey until Saturday morning...even.  if you've ever been in a hurricane or any kind of destructive weather event..you know..there's nothing you can do until it's over...so you wait. There's always collateral damage but by waiting you get to see the full effect and have a clearer picture of what took place. 

ok...I'm loving the soap box...infact..I'm gonna grab that...and use it whenever I get up there....and thanks for the caller thing ( can't remember the name) throat gets hoarse sometimes...

 

18 minutes ago, aniola said:

That was the purpose.:naughty:

It works well...lol

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3 hours ago, deltos said:

I usually don't quote gifs...but this bare's repeating....isn't that right @Kim Soo-Lee :P

Right! :D

 

Like you I don't normally watch gif's as a find most of them boring and annoying, but....this definitely got my attention. :tounge_wink:

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1 hour ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

Right! :D

 

Like you I don't normally watch gif's as a find most of them boring and annoying, but....this definitely got my attention. :tounge_wink:

I keep looking for one of his work out vids he does in the gym that is a bit more revealing, I mean wholesome. No luck ...yet !:phew:

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4 minutes ago, deltos said:

I keep looking for one of his work out vids he does in the gym that is a bit more revealing, I mean wholesome. No luck ...yet !:phew:

ooohhhh I need to start looking also. I love treasure hunts! :D

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3 minutes ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

ooohhhh I need to start looking also. I love treasure hunts! :D

First one that finds it yell Marco Polo !!:joy: There must be a fan out there that has everything about him except his jock size...I'll keep looking too...more like trolling...

 

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33 minutes ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

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Not the gym...but yes this will do quite well...quite well...yes. MarcoPolo and all...:tounge_xd: looking for napkin for drool.. sorry.

 

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4 minutes ago, deltos said:

Not the gym...but yes this will do quite well...quite well...yes. MarcoPolo and all...:tounge_xd: looking for napkin for drool.. sorry.

 

Still looking for the gym ones, but thought this image would keep you going for a while. ;)

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5 minutes ago, Kim Soo-Lee said:

Still looking for the gym ones, but thought this image would keep you going for a while. ;)

It will when I get going..:phew:

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