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[Drama 2016-2017] Guardian: The Lonely and Great Goblin 도깨비

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1 hour ago, dotonly said:

@michiyo90

Your English way better than mine. But dont you feel lonely here because no one would reply to you. No other drama to watch? You can still be obsessed while watching other drama.

 

And you're right. I too need a long time to submit my post. And I shamelessly join the discussion on new drama thread, lol.

 

@dotonly of course it's kinda lonely to dig up an already die down topic,  knowing nobody will reply to your post,  as they all moved on a long time ago. 

 

I do watch some current airing shows (such as "What's wrong with Secretary Kim", "Mr. Sunshine" - the Goblin writer's work)..... But as funny and meaningful as those shows are,  as much as I want to enjoy them,  I keep comparing them to Goblin.  

I mean, those shows are really good in their own ways,  but maybe due to my love for Goblin is still very high, I can't really enjoy them to the fullest. 

 

Maybe after my like for Goblin goes down,  will I be able to really enjoy other shows.  Just that I don't know when will that happen :))))))))

 

And please join as many discussions as you want,  one thing I learn from lurking in this thread is that here in soompi (at least 2 years ago), people don't go around judging others' spelling or grammar.  As long as your general opinion is conveyed,  it will be answered! 

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Regarding age gap thing, there have been so many movies, dramas, animes which have the theme of a ancient fantasy person falling in love with a human: Twilight (Edward is over 100 years, Bella is 17 or 18), Inuyasha (Inuyasha is around 200 years old, Kagome is in high school), The Vampire Diaries, etc. 

 

Goblin is a FANTASY drama and I don't see anything wrong in the whole age gap thing... Now if it was a human 100 year old with a 15 year old girl, I would protest out in the streets. This is different. 

 

I enjoyed Goblin so much that it doesn't even make me feel sad or bad when someone bashes it. I'm like "I'm so glad that I could enjoy and revel this mystic experience and it's just a shame you can't have the same" 

 

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8 hours ago, Sunset90 said:

Regarding age gap thing, there have been so many movies, dramas, animes which have the theme of a ancient fantasy person falling in love with a human: Twilight (Edward is over 100 years, Bella is 17 or 18), Inuyasha (Inuyasha is around 200 years old, Kagome is in high school), The Vampire Diaries, etc. 

 

Goblin is a FANTASY drama and I don't see anything wrong in the whole age gap thing... Now if it was a human 100 year old with a 15 year old girl, I would protest out in the streets. This is different. 

 

I enjoyed Goblin so much that it doesn't even make me feel sad or bad when someone bashes it. I'm like "I'm so glad that I could enjoy and revel this mystic experience and it's just a shame you can't have the same" 

 

 

@Sunset90  I agree with you totally. But maybe I’m kinda sensitive so when I read something negative about my ShinTak, I can’t help but feeling sad. I’m so invested in this couple emotionally. And I am so glad to see some familiar names revisiting this place after so long (familiar as in those who followed this drama while it’s airing)

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3 hours ago, michiyo90 said:

 

@Sunset90  I agree with you totally. But maybe I’m kinda sensitive so when I read something negative about my ShinTak, I can’t help but feeling sad. I’m so invested in this couple emotionally. And I am so glad to see some familiar names revisiting this place after so long (familiar as in those who followed this drama while it’s airing)

 

Goblin always has a special place in my heart. 

 

 

I am coming back to soompi after a long time. The TV here is filled with crime shows. Though they are my favorite kind of shows, I am carrying my first child and I don't want to keep on watching violence (worst is they are gruesome). I am trying to find a light hearted happy drama but not really found anything that impresses me. 

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23 hours ago, Sunset90 said:

 

Goblin always has a special place in my heart. 

 

 

I am coming back to soompi after a long time. The TV here is filled with crime shows. Though they are my favorite kind of shows, I am carrying my first child and I don't want to keep on watching violence (worst is they are gruesome). I am trying to find a light hearted happy drama but not really found anything that impresses me. 

 

@Sunset90 whoah,  so you're expecting.  Congrats to you! 

 

I think recent show such as the rom-com "What's wrong with secretary Kim" is quite fun and light-hearted,  you should check it out :relieved: 

As for writer-nim current work "Mr. Sunshine", I found it a little bit heavy on the plot and I'm not really into historical drama,  so I've kinda hesitated to give it full attention as I once gave to Goblin.  

But I just hope that writer-nim could somehow mention something related to Goblin in Mr. Sunshine. Better yet,  It's be awesome if she could write the explanation of my drama ending.  It'd help me to coop with my withdrawal symptoms (yes,  I shamelessly admit that till this very day,  I still have it) 

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Between viki and dramafever which site has best subs for goblin?

Im comparing episode 4 and on dramafever the scene at the start where hes talking to the reaper are quite different on both sites. On viki he says he will take her but on dramafever the reaper says ill escort you when you time comes you should have been escorted a long time ago at your age.

What's the correct translation its bugging me on viki the reaper is on about taking the girl on dramafever hes on about taking the goblin..

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16 minutes ago, Wotad said:

Between viki and dramafever which site has best subs for goblin?

Im comparing episode 4 and on dramafever the scene at the start where hes talking to the reaper are quite different on both sites. On viki he says he will take her but on dramafever the reaper says ill escort you when you time comes you should have been escorted a long time ago at your age.

What's the correct translation its bugging me on viki the reaper is on about taking the girl on dramafever hes on about taking the goblin..


@Wotad 

I think viki has better sub.  Drama fever version is quite... strange and kinda word by word translated.  


On ep 4, after Euntak pointed out that she'd seen Shin's sword on his chest right from the start,  he freaked and asked Reaper to take her (soul) to the after life,  so that she couldn't pull out his sword anymore ^_^

Reaper was referring to Euntak as someone who must be taken a long time ago - not goblin.  

At least that how my sub version explained. 

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3 minutes ago, michiyo90 said:


@Wotad 

I think viki has better sub.  Drama fever version is quite... strange and kinda word by word translated.  


On ep 4, after Euntak pointed out that she'd seen Shin's sword on his chest right from the start,  he freaked and asked Reaper to take her (soul) to the after life,  so that she couldn't pull out his sword anymore ^_^

Reaper was referring to Euntak as someone who must be taken a long time ago - not goblin.  

At least that how my sub version explained. 

Yeah its weird though because on viki he asks the reaper to take her but on dramafever he wants to be taken so i think ill go with the viki sub it makes more sense . 

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1 hour ago, Wotad said:

Yeah its weird though because on viki he asks the reaper to take her but on dramafever he wants to be taken so i think ill go with the viki sub it makes more sense . 

 

yeah,  since Korean (much alike with Japanese)  tends to skip honorifics and subjects while talking,  so it's very confusing to figure out who's referring to whom.  But based on the content, he definitely referred to her. 

 

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Love this show so far but some subs are hard to understand i think its cause so much talking in some parts and alot of words i dont know the true meaning of. 

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From episode 3, when Shin found Eun Tak at the causeway, she told him that he doesn't have to "fell bad" (watchasian's sub version described it as "STAB of remose"). He then told her not to speak that word, because it pronounce like "stab" - The word he hate the most (since, of course, he was stabbed with a sword).

It can be interpreted as a way for Eun Tak to probe him (for him to reveal more about himself and the "sword" that she'd been able to see from the get-go)

 

As well as the famous words "five millions" 오백 (obaeg) and "confession" 고백 (gobaeg) which was used in episode 3 and 5 (In episode 3 - when Shin said that "he won't give her 5 millions", and Euntak misheard as "he won't confess his felling to her" ;);)  ; in episode 5 - after listening to Eun Tak's story of misfortune, Reaper told Shin to "give her 5 millions"; and it led Shin to recall to when She first misheard it - "5 millions" to "confession" )

 

Also there's a small hint about Reaper's true identity in episode 3 (related to this homophones matter) - when Shin & Reaper was drinking together:

Shin told Reaper that he was a general when he's still human. Then Reaper asked him that whether Shin knew who he was in his human day (so that he wouldn't talk down to him)... Then he - Reaper calls himself 짐 (Jim) (it's how an emperor calls himself in Goryeo) - but then he paused and changed it to luggage [ 짐 (Jim) can also be referred to luggage] as that day was supposed to be Shin's last day in Korea,  and he should pack all his belongings for 20 years of exodus

 

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@dotonly No, I am neither. Can you believe that all of the above infor, I learnt from this very thread!!?

 

I did study Japanese once but quit long time ago. But since I think that Japanese and Korean are very alike in term of grammar,  honorifics..... so I figure some of the words by myself and do lots of googling.

I don't even like historical drama, but I did research infor regarding that time mentioned in this one (because I'm one Goblin trash you might say :))))) )

 

This writer is known for inserting many poetic and subtle lines, and characters in her works tend to say things that shouldn't be taken literally. There're always hidden or double meaning and reason in what they said. Or so I thought :)))))))

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Thats one of the reason i like kdrama. Poetic lines. Especially in sageuks...

 

Tho sometimes i dont understand the meaning of it, hehehe...

 

EDIT: Btw, whats your memorable scenes @michiyo90 ?

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@dotonly There are so many memorable scenes in this drama for me. But the most of them, I guess - is their reunion in episode 14

 

 

I remained a sobbing mess watching this scene (in fact, I remembered crying throughout the first half of episode 14, up until when Shin was at Reaper's tearoom.)

I couldn't (and still can't) bear the sight of Shin like that, being in that "in-between world" (more like purgatory to me), holding on to that contract dearly, keeping walking forward with nothing in sight.

 

Such a complete solitude, such a complete deadly silence.

 

And when that contract got swept out of his hand, he run and fell down trying to catch it; and then you can see the helplessness in his eyes, almost like he's about to give in.

 

At that very moment, her voice came to him - a desperate voice pleaing for someone to come to her rescue. It was the only thing that saved him. Her blowing that candle is like her calling him home, saving him from that horrible place, back to her side (although unconciously)

 

He wouldn't know when and if she could still summon him. He was just being in that place, while forsaking his long-awaited "so called peace"; just for the sake of occasionally come to her in form of rain or first snow.

 

That's why when she's in front of him, he couldn't help but march toward her and embrace her, to feel her inside his tight embrace. That's something beyond his dream.

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@michiyo90 for me was at ep 1 or 2 when ET said "Ahjussi, saranghae" or something like that and then smiled.

 

I cant believe it. She looks like a little girl with a very sweet smile.

 

Tbh, i never saw KGE dramas before, so at first i was wondering and questioning about her and maybe doubting her too. "What kind of character this ET is will be like?"

 

I think i started to like KGE as ET was after that smile.

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@dotonly oh yeah, if you mean the first scene that made me fall for this drama and decide to invest 100% emotionally to it,  then It'd be the first time Eun Tak summoning Shin to the causeway.  

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It just gave me a really magical vibe,  the scenery was so magictics, and with these two people,  made me wonder how their story would progress. 

 

I didn't even know the casts' names back then (except for Yoo In Na as I watched her before in Queen Inhyun's man), so I just wanted to immersed myself in the story that writer want to tell, with all the characters: Kim Shin,  Ji Eun Tak,  the Reaper,  Sunny,  Yoo Duk Hwa....  And didn't bother too much about whether it was played by A list or B list actors,  or all the other distractions. 

 

To me,  the actors and actresses in this drama are their characters. 

 

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@michiyo90 i never care with A list or idol actor thing. I just enjoyed the drama that hooked me.

 

And i must say that i was stunned by YIN's acting here. She is Sunny. No doubt. Just like what you said "they are their characters".

 

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@dotonly who's your most favorite character in this drama?  

 

Is there a couple that you're rooting for? Whether it'd be ShinTak,  WangSun or Goblin-Reaper.... 

 

And there's a downside of seeing actors as their characters I guess.  I got so attached to these characters that I can not watch the actors' other works 

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