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Astrological Analyzations part 4

Uranus, Neptune & Pluto - As I said before, I don't usually put too much emphasis on these luminaries as they are 'generational' markers (heck, they can even go backwards in the zodiac for months since they move so slow), but my curiosity just became too much for myself . JY  & ZZ share the same signs for these - Uranus & Neptune are in Capricorn, Pluto is in Scorpio.

(Also, since these are generational luminaries, this isn't just in regards to JY & ZZ's relation to each other, but also to everyone of a similar age to themselves - like FS & CW)

"Love" Aspects

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ZZ Moon trine JY Uranus: A spontaneous, inexplicable, powerful magnetic attraction; unorthodox situations, fascinated with each other; encourages conception - whether child or brain-child

JY Moon square ZZ Pluto & ZZ Moon opposition JY Pluto: problems in sexual matters regarding domestic & family situations (can be mitigated by other favorable aspects)

JY Venus conjoin ZZ Uranus & ZZ Venus trine JY Uranus: a remarkable magnetism, may originally define as "a curious infatuation," but soon discover it to be more & think of it as strange, unconventional, weird. An exciting companionship.

JY Venus conjoin ZZ Neptune: unconventional relationship; great amount of mutual sympathy; a gentleness that is especially comforting; psychic link. Neptune may entice, seduce Venus, but Venus won't mind - unless Neptune acts elusive or suspicious.

ZZ Venus trine JY Neptune: psychic connection, wonderfully harmonious. Both are aware of a magical fairy tale, fantasy aura that surrounds them.

Venus sextile Pluto (both ways): deep karmic bond (possible Soul Mate connection, though more so with a conjunction than sextile). Meet involuntarily, "love at first sight," cannot be separated. Inexpressible longing for each other when apart, even when they try to deny it. 

JY Mars opposition ZZ Uranus: professional matters could cause problems, take time away from each other to restore balance ("absence makes the heart grow fonder")

JY Mars opposition ZZ Neptune: temptation to excess (addictions, wastefulness, etc). This vibration can be greatly mitigated by other favorable aspects 

ZZ Mars square JY Pluto: some form of sexual perversion or problems is possible. This can draw them closer, as there can be no compassion without pain.

 

Now, we have to back track through the previously discussed luminaries as well.

Uranus Aspects

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ZZ Sun square JY Uranus: periodic explosions followed by unexpected reconciliations, can cause impatience & rebellion against each other. 

ZZ Moon trine JY Uranus: an unusual, unorthodox relationship, creating a magnetic pulse; not only love each other, but like each other as well; can be seen as kind of "weird" individually, but even more so when together.

JY Mercury sextile ZZ Uranus: stimulate each other mentally; psychic connections - talk their own language; mysterious & strongly beneficial influence on each other's health

ZZ Mercury square JY Uranus: friction in mentality, periodic separations & reconciliations

JY Venus conjoin ZZ Uranus: naturally stimulate each other's ideas in music & arts, highly unusual, unconventional relationship, Venus is a calm comfort to Uranus

ZZ Venus trine JY Uranus: unorthodox first meeting, mystical/glamorous aura; separations tend to be bizarre, reconciliations are just as disruptive

JY Mars opposition ZZ Uranus: individual strong wills & independence can occasionally clash, minor/short separations are beneficial

JY Jupiter square ZZ Uranus: can overstimulate extravagance & irresponsibility in each other, minor/short separations again

ZZ Jupiter sextile JY Uranus: respect of each other's freedom & individuality, a need to inspire & encourage each other

ZZ Saturn sextile JY Uranus: a perfect blend of the eccentric progressive (Uranus) & the reliable conservative (Saturn) 

Uranus conjoin Uranus: experience sudden happenings in simultaneously & similarly, may become instant & fast friends when meeting for the first time ("and just as suddenly become lovers")

Uranus conjoin Neptune: psychic connections (yes, again)

 

Neptune Aspects

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ZZ Sun square JY Neptune: "Neptune can appear submissive while simultaneously eluding the Sun's influence," accusations of disloyalty, nagging, evasive behavior

ZZ Moon trine JY Neptune: telepathic tie, a mutual sympathy & inspiration, may seem slightly distant/aloof to each other at times

JY Mercury sextile ZZ Neptune: a blessed aspect that considerably softens/dilutes negative aspects, strong psychic tie

ZZ Mercury square JY Neptune: mind games, trust issues, lies of omission

JY Venus conjoin ZZ Neptune: an extraordinary sympathy, understanding, compassion & devotion; can literally hypnotize each other at times; can share a love for the arts

ZZ Venus trine JY Neptune: an aura of quiet affection & devotion, this aspect can smooth out other frictional aspects

JY Mars opposition ZZ Neptune: warning towards mutual addictions, financial/business disagreements

JY Jupiter square ZZ Neptune: warning towards mutual addictions (again); Jupiter's brashness can affect Neptune's sensitivities, while Neptune's innocent elusiveness can be perceived as deception by Jupiter

ZZ Jupiter sextile JY Neptune: encourage idealism & stimulate mutual charitable instincts in each other, beneficial business ventures, mutual love of animals

ZZ Saturn sextile JY Neptune: harmony, can help lessen tense aspects

Neptune conjoin Neptune: a tendency to slide into excess together, obsessiveness, over-idealization of each other, other strong aspects can minimize this.


 

Pluto Aspects
 

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JY Moon square ZZ Pluto & ZZ Moon opposition JY Pluto: serious disagreements can cause physical illness in each other

JY Mercury conjoin ZZ Pluto: can cause change in each other's goals, ambitions & dreams. (Pluto is the stronger in this relationship, so Mercury is cautioned not to give in too much)

Venus sextile Pluto (both ways): powerful karmic tie, nearly impossible to be separated, separations are short lived

JY Mars trine ZZ Pluto: extraordinary partnership, any mutual endeavor is bound to succeed

ZZ Mars square JY Pluto: individual strong wills can clash sharply, tendency towards selfishness

ZZ Jupiter conjoin JY Pluto: strong physical chemistry, beneficial partnerships, possible negative aspect scan be easily overcome with a little space

Pluto conjoin Pluto: constantly shifting & changing relationship, ability to solve life's crisis together

 

 

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1 hour ago, Leon Percivall said:

so i've watched counter attack, here for you and heroin. is there any other series which i can watch that is out?

I've posted a lot of recommendations in the past. Here are links to those posts:

Post of my Recommendations!

My last post

Something new coming out, Revive: Superstar. Episode 1 just aired but there aren't subtitles for it yet:

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The summary from the trailer video below:

Based on the book of the same name, Reborn : SuperStar 重生之名流巨星 tells the story of a struggling actor’s reincarnation as an younger artist (#MaKe) and his path to stardom. On the way he is helped by his agent and lover (#XuHaiqiao), a seasoned actor (@PongNawat), a female actress who fakes a relationship with him (#ZhangXinyu), and one who fakes a marriage with him (#HanChaeyoung).
Ma Ke. He plays an unfortunate star who is kind and honest, but dies in a tragic car accident after he is ripped apart by the rumors of him being gay. His lover (an acting “god” played by Thai actor Pong Nawat) did not step in to help or clarify. Our hero comes back to life in the body of a young, handsome man, determined to start again and pursue his unfinished dreams. But could he hide his true self from his friends …and foes?

Here's the trailer with English subtitles:

 

 

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10 hours ago, samscheetah said:

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A screenshow occured at the Center Square in Nanjing

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This really is amazing! Did some fans actually buy ad time on that screen? I imagine it wasn't cheap... That is true dedication!

It's fantastic what devotion Addicted and YuZhou inspires in people! Even more so from within China - and it makes me wonder too what the ban entails exactly, and if this sort of thing is considered OK. What is it about Addiction that inspires so? Of course, the ban just made the love for it more urgent, more necessary. In China, it must a bit of a statement to like this series, right? I'm not well-versed in the genre of BL, so I wonder: does liking BL/yaoi etc always equate also being a great supporter of LGBT-rights? Because watching this video, it seems to me, to be not only a great support for the series and the guys, but in an indirect way - within the context of the ban and the situation for LGBT-folks in China -  also supporting tolerance for being gay. I hope at the very least the guys will see it, and take heart. :)

What a great fandom this is (if we forget about the fanatics for a moment)! So much work put into it. Like @estreline, doing such a great job translating the novel. Thanks so much for that!

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I read an article about a famous gay chinese book and also it was adapted to a movie. 

Just a little summary first: "Rumors said the author of Someone Like Lan Yu was forced by Chinese government not so long after he/she decided to publish the novel online. Due to the very moving and touching story, along with the aggressive sex scene on both gay, lesbian, and straight way (The narrator, Han-Tong is Bi), the novel was, and still is, a great success among the internet surfer in china"

There was this line that I found particularly interesting:  "Later on, Someone Likes Lan Yu was adapted to the motion picture by Stanley Kwan . The production had to be kept as top secret due to the fact that they couldn't let Chinese government know this until it would show in the theatre. Again, it was really popular and received many awards from stages around the world."

Do you think CJD can pull something like this out (or maybe she has something similar in her mind)? Even if they can't broadcast it in China, might be if the government found out they are filming S2 it would try to jeopardize their work...?

I have to add though that this movie was made in 2001, so quite a while ago and I am not sure what was the law regarding BL themed movies. 

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4 minutes ago, ayasdai said:

There was this line that I found particularly interesting:  "Later on, Someone Likes Lan Yu was adapted to the motion picture by Stanley Kwan . The production had to be kept as top secret due to the fact that they couldn't let Chinese government know this until it would show in the theatre. Again, it was really popular and received many awards from stages around the world."

Do you think CJD can pull something like this out (or maybe she has something similar in her mind)? Even if they can't broadcast it in China, might be if the government found out they are filming S2 it would try to jeopardize their work...?

YES! Finally somebody mentions this TAT and if that the case, we would be all mental.

Say, YuZhou just attend events, shows, photoshoots, and interviews as usual, and one day BAM it's announced S2 to be aired: 20+ ep on website, special edition in movie theater.. Y'all, we'll be dead!! hahaha

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That video fans made and put on public display is really touching. :,) (I wonder how much these fans have spent... ^^')

About ZhouZhou's ex girlfriend... just another attention seeker. (Btw, she has the rumored couple tattoo on her arm); I laughed reading Weibo comments under her post, she and FB are perfect for each other. XD

@ayasdai China removed homosexuality from mental illness list just back in 2001; I think this is one of the reason why Lan Yu it was really popular and iconic back then. :)

 

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18 minutes ago, ximichem said:

YES! Finally somebody mentions this TAT and if that the case, we would be all mental.

Say, YuZhou just attend events, shows, photoshoots, and interviews as usual, and one day BAM it's announced S2 to be aired: 20+ ep on website, special edition in movie theater.. Y'all, we'll be dead!! hahaha

As much as I'd like this to be true as any other person, there's a few problems with it.

1) Lan Yu was a movie (meaning it only had one 'episode') that hadn't been pre-banned before the airing so it could

- be aired in theaters due to length
- still receive money

2) Addicted is a series that has been banned by the government meaning, I'm assuming, websites can't air it for profit aka CJD and cast would receive no money.
3) Because Addicted is a series (meaning it has multiple episodes), it can't just be aired in theaters (and it might be illegal due to the ban).

I can see a 'special edition' (still not sure how it'd be released for profit) which would be a very, very, very condensed version of S2 but we'd be missing out on tons of details and scenes. So, I'm just not sure how CJD would pull the mentioned scenario for Lan Yu off considering CJD and cast would get no money using usual outlets and might even get in trouble :sweatingbullets:

On another note, if anyone has the time, Lan Yu is an amazing movie that is definitely worth checking out ^_^

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6 minutes ago, guhai said:

As much as I'd like this to be true as any other person, there's a few problems with it.

1) Lan Yu was a movie (meaning it only had one 'episode') that hadn't been pre-banned before the airing so it could

- be aired in theaters due to length
- still receive money

2) Addicted is a series that has been banned by the government meaning, I'm assuming, websites can't air it for profit aka CJD and cast would receive no money.
3) Because Addicted is a series (meaning it has multiple episodes), it can't just be aired in theaters (and it might be illegal due to the ban).

I can see a 'special edition' (still not sure how it'd be released for profit) which would be a very, very, very condensed version of S2 but we'd be missing out on tons of details and scenes. So, I'm just not sure how CJD would pull the mentioned scenario for Lan Yu off considering CJD and cast would get no money using usual outlets and might even get in trouble :sweatingbullets:

On another note, if anyone has the time, Lan Yu is an amazing movie that is definitely worth checking out ^_^

Precisely! Those are the scenarios sadly I don't want to face. Beside the matter of profit (of which they seek from Youtube to somehow make over for the website banning), objectively there's no guarantee about the cast (comparing to the Lan Yu's), I need to stop mentioning about the choice of casting GY, particularly since our 4 boys are still improving their acting. Other than that, it's not expected to be filming secretly imo, the fans over there are really something :sweatingbullets: they even can track on YuZhou flight time, not to mention we still have no idea why ZZ and CW went to Korea but they were still waited by the fans anyhow XD

Afterward, it's said that when we love something too much that we have to let it go 

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1 hour ago, yaoimazter78 said:

Whooohoooo finally caught up...had to fast read 11 pages since I was offline for two days...

Just sharing this lonnnggg coverage of JY doing the Meters/bonwe last 210316

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this is a gem haha whoever can translate the the whole thing is a master LOL :) thanks for this video though!!!

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Good day Addicts,

I recall a remarkable scene of the "Olympic competition day"(?) that BLY running marathon and he pushed himself to his limit so bad that he can't walk properly eventually; it hurt GH and he got to carry him in his arms. And here's our jr. ZZ >"<

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18 minutes ago, dignity1 said:

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is all y'all do on this site is like replies and not answer questions

Hey pal, idk what were your questions but I'm replying just to keep the atmosphere nice and friendly :) 

Please be patient since somebody who has the answer may not go online asap. This fandom is very international and it's now around 6-9am in Asia, not to mention the difference time zone in other countries, also it's spring break, Easter holiday, and weekend that many folks have their own personal stuffs.

Hope you get your answer very soon ^^

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Hi, I've been lurking in the forum for quite a while and decided know I should take part in it. Nice to meet you everyone <3

I also saw the etrans for the novel between GH and BLY but what about YQ and YM? 

-Addicted fan from Boston <3

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@sohocomo Interesting to know that while their relations are deep, strong and seemingly unbreakable, the your analysis also mentions on frequent (?) periods of separations and how these only bring them together again. Well, I know couples who live practically half world away from their loved ones and they (I assume) have strong relationship but personally, I could not bear the loneliness XD Thanks for writing the analysis!

@yaoimazter78 Oooh, is that the same fan who made Until You MV? Hopefully both JY and ZZ are going to like this one! The MV is so sweet and exactly convey what sohocomo has written above! Great minds do think alike :D 

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