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Sorry, sorry  :phew:  G'nite all

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I was torn between many emotions reading this fic! (don't want to explain which emotions are they...)  :lol: More! More! More! *greedy*

Venus in Scorpio, indeed! These stars are for you, auntie @sohocomo ! :star::star::star:

Edit: looking at @liesl's post and cackled myself up. This fandom is really something!

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20 hours ago, jdyz said:

I haven't ever believed the ZZ being in Dandong rumor for one minute. JY is literally frozen from almost all public/media activities right now, ZZ is in the middle of arranging the promotion of his album, and they both cannot risk being seen together, perhaps not ever but at least in the near future. How stupid would they be to agree to rendezvous like that if there was really something between them? I'm not saying there's NOT, because I've been spazzing over JY's Goro necklace (how's that progressing? is there any fan taking responsibility for the gift? did JY buy it himself???) but to meet secretly anywhere not in Beijing or Shanghai? LOL

Fans have been having this weird competition about who's gonna succeed more between the two of them, and now it's turning to this even weirder victimization race about who's having it worse. Frankly, it's ridiculously unfair to tie them together like that, they met 6 months ago and had one acting job together. Even if there was season 2, they wouldn't want to be referred as YuZhou (or ZhouYu as ZZ insists lol) for the rest of their lives. Sorry, the more delulu couple fans, I do not ship them that way. Yet the fans have been fighting continuously about everything and anything, when are they going to let it go? forever a contest between them two? when will it stop? Isn't there already enough drama caused by invisible powers that be? That's why I tend to avoid fandom drama and baseless rumors, it's really hard to engage when there are mud slinging and pot stirring all the time.

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The truth is JY and ZZ are both caught in the perfect storm. Good looking guys with captivating personalities and mesmerizing chemistry together, propelled with the couple effect from just one low budgeted web drama. It has lifted them to unbelievable height and now it's also sinking them under unprecedented obstacles. It's premature to say but I still do not know how or how long their careers (they haven't even been given time to build proper, legitimate careers yet) can recover after all this tbh. There are many plausible reasons why the authorities, both from the gov. and the industry brought the hammer on them, but I believe the biggest is not even the "condoning homosexuality" angle (that's why the un-coupling effort from only-fan is miserably comical and useless imo) but the "easy stardom" angle.

JY has struggled in showbiz before, he's done various modeling jobs and game shows without success, Addicted's Gu Hai was the missing spark that any budding entertainer knows only comes once or twice in a lifetime, and contrary to his silly/aloof demeanor, he's NOT the happy-go-lucky type, I believe he knows this is his one chance to break in and he has been killing it with all the deals. Now his career is seemingly imploding and some of his fans, mostly acquired through Addicted or because of Addicted, have been blaming everything from the authorities to CJD and her company and ZZ and the Thai fanmeeting, ironically trying to erase Addicted/ZZ out of this world, effectively rendering him into this helpless, unprotected victim and martyr. (#onlycareaboutHJY is the most cringey hashtag I've ever encountered tbh)

I've seen fewer venomous attacks from ZZ and couple fans, but there are and it's no less ridiculous. In the series, ZZ's role is decidedly less prominent so it's understandable he'd get fewer fans from the series, and I share the frustration of ZZ fans when couple-fans go overboard with their uke/feminine/submissive perception/depiction of ZZ. But without fan infighting, ZZ is already the one who has endured much worse scandals, and while he might have many talents and determine what his career goals are, he definitely lacks the actual skill and resource to navigate the intricacies of showbiz right now. He's a person with broad appeal, he needs to win over the general audience and overbearing, possessive fans do not help.

And the most fervent couple-fans, like wow, not everything they do has to have anything to do with each other, simple as that. They're guys with over 20 years of many relationships, and for the most part you can only see them through some camera lens and hear them through secondhand words. Try to be a bit reasonable. You're fanning the fire in the wrong way.

Imagine a new face that is backed and promoted properly by the powers that be, with big budgeted campaigns and prestigious roles, yet cannot reach the same popularity of one previously (mostly) unknown model and one kid who's still attending acting school, with nothing more than a boy's love drama under their belts. Literally famous overnight without any monetary cost, ROI = infinite. And the offers kept pouring in, imagine if there was a season 2, if they could both mining the couple image for a while, if magazines and shows kept spamming their faces, and they graduated the webdrama rank into proper stars as quickly as they became popular out of nowhere... Yes, it may be the most conspiratorial theory of all, but somewhere up there someone(s) is absolutely very displeased about CJD/JY/ZZ, and add in (getting famous by promoting) homosexuality, teenage sex depiction, and sensitive army-related plot, no wonder the ban comes hard and comes twice.

 

Uh... what am I trying to say? Ah, yes, they are definitely inadvertent victims, of a bigger cultural purifying plan, of behind the scene intrigues, of politics... BUT NOT VICTIMS OF EACH OTHER. Don't blame the victim. Rationalize external reasons and forces all you want but they themselves did nothing wrong. They got popular together and now they're both suffering career-wise, there's no need to keep compare them, just as there's no need for fans to try to isolate them before (are you happy now?) and bring them together now (how?). I don't know if one day they will regret Addicted (or already have) if the winds don't change for the better, but for couple-fans, accept the fact they're (for now) ex-colleagues, effectively strangers; and for only-fans, why don't you just stop any crazy bitching "on behalf of/in protection of/for the good of/" either of them? They aren't gonna meet face to face blatantly, in public, they will go their separate ways, have their separate lives and work on separate projects (if any wow I'm bitter). The only thing keeps them in each other's life after all this is, quite frankly, only the two of them themselves. Least of all overzealous, vicious fans.

I'm in this awkward spot for not being quite a couple nor only-fan, I love them together but I actually don't care to speculate their sexuality, I'm far more interested in their personalities and friendship. I have my bias (~pls respect ZZ's gender, he's not anyone's wife~ guess who lol) yet I can't promise to keep investing my time and money and emotion like a dedicated stan, but I do want to follow both of their careers, to support them and wait patiently for a day when they can officially stand together on stage once more. And Addicted still has a special place in me after all. This is quite honestly the last haven for peace so please, I do beg you guys, don't bring fandom drama/rumors into this thread.

 

Sometimes it's a mistake surfing Soompi during work hours because after reading this kind of post, I could not concentrate on my work and my mood has turned sour... Worked for 11 hours and here I am writing about this because I cannot not write about this.

I'm getting tired of people bringing fanwars issue from China forum/other forums into this forum. As far as I know, majority of us here are CP fans (and some are with bias). All these extreme fans (which you probably found on Weibo/China forum or whatever) are evil okay? There's no JY's fans more evil than ZZ's fans or vice versa.... They're both equally terrible for trying to bring each other's idol down. Most of us love both boys even if some has more bias than the other... There's no only-fan here because this thread is not suitable for only-fan because of the extreme delulu posts occasionally that might turn only-fan off. If you want to rant about this fanwars, pls do so at China forum (where fans who are at fault can read your rant & maybe get enlightened from your post and repent or something? who knows?) or other forums or via PM. What's the point of ranting about it here when majority of us are delulu CP fans? We ship both boys, protect both boys, support both boys, not just one of them even if we have our own bias. 

The term "DELULU" is a fandom word for "being delusional". Shall I explain to you what "delusional" means?...... No? Ok. Moving on. So when we post CP stuffs to the point that you want to vomit blood and couldn't help rolling your eyes, remember we're being delusional especially when we wrote #delulu etc. Don't like it? Skip it. Easy. Why can't you just let us be happy even from such a vague rumour??? Is it so hard to skip? Just a scroll and you can't even do that?

So you don't like CP fans calling ZZ wifey or annoyed by manips of ZZ in women costume when even ZZ himself found it amusing when he saw the manips of him in that pink cotton flowery jacket.... Are you sure you're not one of those overzealous fans that you talked about?? I've seen manips of JY in skirt, ponytails, women costume, make up.... I just laughed it off and move on... This fandom is famous for its photo manips (never been in this kind of fandom with abundance of creativity before). I appreciate all kinds of manips. Some are witty, gorgeous, funny and beyond ridiculous, but in the end it's just a manip. Don't be so uptight if you want to be in this fandom. I'm probably still gonna call ZZ wifey or however term of endearments I want to use. If you don't like it, there's always a choice.

I'm blunt. I don't know how to be cryptic. And I'm very unhappy with your post.

Spammers pls spam with whatever you have, CP stuffs, JY, ZZ or JY's dog, ZZ's friends, fanarts, old photos, Shangyin screencaps,gifs etc etc so that all these miserable posts (including mine) will be pushed back quickly...

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8 hours ago, Scandani said:

hi IMO, I actually asked my specialist doctor about this since it really bothers me, and guess what she came back to me! 

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And she said that kissing and exchanging saliva would not give you hep B. Blood exchange would def give you hep B, that is why a pregnant woman will give the baby the virus, during delivery, but if the baby get hep B vaccine shot within 24 hours after delivery the baby will be fine. And even if someone have hep B and they have unprotected sex, doctor said that person with no hep B should go right away to the hospital to get the vaccine and that person would be fine. Gosh how invested I am with this series, I even asked a real doctor for all of these hypothetical questions. Now I think my doctor would ask me to get a hep B vaccine from all of these questions, since she starting to be worry about me.

Or, is she wrong in this?

 

6 hours ago, gentlemonsterzhou said:

Hi. There are different types of hepatitis. :) and their form of transmissions were different too. Ill give you the breakdown

Hepatitis A = transmission is thru fecal-oral (mostly food, street food etc)

Hepatitis B = Sexual and Parenteral (via IV injection) and also vertical (mother to neonate) So it is mostly transmitted sexually 

Hepatitis C = transmission is mainly parenteral (More on patients going blood transfusion) 

Hepatitis D = Sexual and Parenteral transmission this is highly seen in IV drug users.

Hepatitis E = fecal-oral transmission (more on contaminated water)

 

So, hepatitis B can be transmitted sexually and is mostly the transmission of the said type of Hepatitis. Hope this helps. :blush:

Source: Robbins book of Pathology 8th edition

 

if i may share a bit information regarding this matter: it's stated in many literature that Hep B is transmitted by contact with blood & infected bodily fluids. blood is where the most concentration of the virus, so mostly HBV spread through it. second is the semen & vaginal secretions, so HBV is transmitted through unprotected sex as well. as for saliva, infected person's saliva contains virus but in very low concentrations compared to blood. so the possibility to transmit through saliva is very low to none, but apparently there is possibility if cut or wound is present inside the mouth. hope it help :) 

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2 hours ago, mchansk07 said:

 

 

if i may share a bit information regarding this matter: it's stated in many literature that Hep B is transmitted by contact with blood & infected bodily fluids. blood is where the most concentration of the virus, so mostly HBV spread through it. second is the semen & vaginal secretions, so HBV is transmitted through unprotected sex as well. as for saliva, infected person's saliva contains virus but in very low concentrations compared to blood. so the possibility to transmit through saliva is very low to none, but apparently there is possibility if cut or wound is present inside the mouth. hope it help :) 

 

8 hours ago, gentlemonsterzhou said:

Hi. There are different types of hepatitis. :) and their form of transmissions were different too. Ill give you the breakdown

Hepatitis A = transmission is thru fecal-oral (mostly food, street food etc)

Hepatitis B = Sexual and Parenteral (via IV injection) and also vertical (mother to neonate) So it is mostly transmitted sexually 

Hepatitis C = transmission is mainly parenteral (More on patients going blood transfusion) 

Hepatitis D = Sexual and Parenteral transmission this is highly seen in IV drug users.

Hepatitis E = fecal-oral transmission (more on contaminated water)

 

So, hepatitis B can be transmitted sexually and is mostly the transmission of the said type of Hepatitis. Hope this helps. :blush:

Source: Robbins book of Pathology 8th edition

wow what an honor to be quoted by resident doctor herself, hi, I am Dani :) nice to meet you @mchansk07

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So, my doctor pretty worry after my email and called me this afternoon to ask me several questions and asked me to have myself checked. Hahaha the trouble this fandom give me over curiousity. But, she explained to me further, and basically she was saying exactly what you were saying. The possibility to be infected through saliva is low to none, except...when you have bleeding in your mouth, open wound, or similar. She explained to me quite detail and really asking me to make an appointment regarding this matter. And I promise her, I will. She said for now, since I am worried, it is best to get Hep vaccine, which will be 3 shots, and will cover me for 25 years. Sadly, I have to pay for it myself T_T

Thank you both doc mchansk07 and gentlemonsterzhou (lol your username :P )

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22 minutes ago, kmmyzz said:

Hmm probably I should stop using 'beautiful' to describe JY since the word is mainly used for women?

Jokes and sarcasm aside, HJY is such a beautiful specimen

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aye aye, girl. Even with that hideous bow tie, he is still look gorgeous!!!

My baby whale. Oh should I not use animal name to describe him, since he is human? OK, will stop the sarcasm.

The Korean fancafe pics tho' still so gloomy. I will send a pray tonight, so he will get jobs lined up for him. I want him back on my screen, I want him to be successful in his career, be it actor, model, or maybe a singer? (yup, go have vocal coach, and record an album, I will buy it). 

Sending positive thoughts for him and ZZ to the universe. I hope both can go through this big ripples in their life, and sail again, stronger. 

(looking at my folder trying to find what I can share)

Oh @charlie10 he did say several times (during the kidnapping and during the car scene, that he likes when BLY refuse him (both words and physical), it will just turn him on more. And he is so vulgar, jaysus. I feel my face blushing whenever I read how vulgar he is in the novel, and the fact that secretly BLY enjoys that too. They are just both so...lewd. I love it 

 

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And the analysis of a body language expert about hugging someone from behind:

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The Sneak Attack 
He comes up behind you and puts his arms around your chest. 
Even if he hasn't said the words yet, a guy who grabs you like this is in love. He's blanketing your body with his, your feet are intertwined, you're leaning into him.… There's a real sense of oneness here. "By covering your back, he's conveying that he wants to shelter you," says body-language expert Patti Wood, author of
Success Signals. "He's also flexing his masculinity — this displays his strength and dominance."
The one exception is if your man almost always hugs you from the back. "That might mean he craves a closer connection but thinks you're unavailable," says Christopher Blazina, PhD, author of
The Secret Lives of Men. "He avoids hugging face-to-face because he's worried you're not into him."

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Oh my the backhugging or the spooning in bed was my favorite!  Because you could clearly see Johnny enjoyed it so much and it wasn't just acting for him,  his face after he embraced zhouzhou in his strong arms could be only described by pure bliss and contentment :wub: that small satisfied smile on his his face?  Oh my :blush: idk how their relationship advanced outside filming ofc but iam 100% sure he wouldn’t mind embracing zhouzhou like that all the time, sleeping peacefully while feeling complete and whole ^_^

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1 hour ago, Scandani said:

 

wow what an honor to be quoted by resident doctor herself, hi, I am Dani :) nice to meet you @mchansk07

So, my doctor pretty worry after my email and called me this afternoon to ask me several questions and asked me to have myself checked. Hahaha the trouble this fandom give me over curiousity. But, she explained to me further, and basically she was saying exactly what you were saying. The possibility to be infected through saliva is low to none, except...when you have bleeding in your mouth, open wound, or similar. She explained to me quite detail and really asking me to make an appointment regarding this matter. And I promise her, I will. She said for now, since I am worried, it is best to get Hep vaccine, which will be 3 shots, and will cover me for 25 years. Sadly, I have to pay for it myself T_T

Thank you both doc mchansk07 and gentlemonsterzhou (lol your username :P )

a pleasure to met you too @Scandani :)

and you have a reliable doctor who is very concern with her patient. her suggestion is very correct and i'd recommend for everyone to have vaccine if it's possible. may i know how much does it cost for each vaccine in your country, Dani? in my country it's not expensive, only 10$/vaccine.

ps: sorry for this post that has nothing to do with our Addicted :sweatingbullets:. i promise this will be my last "off topic" post lol :D

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There's twitter account posting about FW and his current gf who's also CW's friend, he introduced them. 

She's saying stuffs like, his gf has many followers in weibo because she bought them O_O

And she couldn't take that foreign fans are being ''lied to'' :blink:

Apparently they got together since February. She said that she only wants the truth out.

And she uses broken Thai as if translated by google so she's probably Chinese.

https://twitter.com/TellthetruthFW

I never thought that CW & FW were more than friends anyway. So it's not really a surprise is she's telling the truth.

And it's his life so... But if it was ZZ or JY I might've been crying a river lol

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A little spam to cheer people up while our boys are busy doing something lovey-dovey behind the scenes missing in action :phew:

GH, you never know how miserable wrong you are until you see your future GH

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Off-topic corner:

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Anyone here wanna try Super Lovers - The latest shounen-ai out there. The romance is a lifetime story having started since the younger one was a kid :)

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@Tin Le I've tried Super Lovers....but not sure if I'll continue it.

Is there anyone here that has read the original version of the Addicted series, and can tell me if there are two different version? i.e. like NiF with different chaptering and slightly changed storyline?

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10 hours ago, Soohee ssi said:

Been staring at this gif till tears silently streamed down my cheeks OTL *throwback*

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This is like their 1st meeting together (with media and fans). And you can see JY is so nervous, and ZZ always look out for him. And then this happen, ZZ suddenly held out his hand and JY accept it, and they hold hand for a while. And ZZ was like touched his elbow softly like saying 'I'm here, It's okay, you can do it'. This is why I love about YuZhou, they always compliment each other so much. (This gif still ruining my life OTL)

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This is one is when ZZ have to describe 3 words about JY. And he ruffled his hair so gently and said 'Look at me while I'm talking'. And JY look so vulnerable in a good way. That is so sweet AF okay. 

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I always find how domestic they were (this gif especially). Like ZZ is so playful and JY is so serious listening to director talking, and JY need to feel him closer, and he need to pay attention too and how he took ZZ face with his hand is so lovely.

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When I was watching this, I was like 'Am I interrupting something?' Like I watch something so private. I feel like this is them when they are alone, talking about something, so soft yet so perfect and so them.

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How come you not ship them? When they are alone, they always in their own world and not care about others. I'm trying to find the reason not to ship them, but somehow I found something to ship them even more. Their chemistry on screen look so strong and their chemistry off screen make it more stronger. What is my life turn into? Welcome to Accidental Shipping Club, where our motto is 'I never meant for this to happen to me' .

credit : the gif is not mine. Full credit to the gif maker :)

 

 

Thank you for the awesome gifs! :)

What I like about these two is that you can really sense their closeness - nothing is staged or there is no acting involved (unless they are very skilled actors hahaha). It's still painful to watch the series again knowing everything that has happened. BUT, at least, we have the show and we got to know four amazing guys that got us all crazy and delusional. I love it!

Great day to everyone!

Ps. I always want to share pictures I see from Instagram and Twitter, but I will leave that to our generous contributors here. :)

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