crystalclear18 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 7 hours ago, justalurker123 said: Hi! First of all, I want to say I'm a Baizhou fan. I've been lurking here since last year of May. I've back-read from page 1 and I've been checking this thread everyday or every few hours. This page has been really interesting on early pages but I felt offended by the recent posts mostly from the new members. I know you will hate me for this because some people tend to only listen to themselves and think they're right all the time. I have an account on soompi years ago but deactivated it but I made a new account because I can't take anymore insults from other CPFs here. First of all, I don't hate Jingyu. In fact I've read your "theories"; some I find interesting, some I find too much "delulu". I also find him attractive. I've also watched BL movies before and I've shipped them before. I know they're very close friends but I don't believe they're together in real life. Of course you have a right to believe what you want to believe but please don't impose your ideas to others like it's the truth................................. Please read their orignal post no forum skills but making this shorter lol Believe it or not i had no idea what Baizhou actually was until recently and i was referring to the *CRAZY* only fans.. Not that all only fans are crazy. Somehow you related yourself into that group through no fault of mine. That actually should say something since you came to a YZ thread to bash YZ fans. If you don't like it, you are free to leave as well. If you think you are justified in talking to other people this way just because you are a ZZ fan, then I THINK it's possible to be both a ZZ fan and a YZ shipper. Cyber bullying is really no small thing as @abhishikta said and i feel like you are the one who is bringing this threat into the thread by selecting certain members participating in this thread to address. I can actually feel the anxiety that someone who is being bullied online might feel right now, considering i have no idea who you are or if you are some kind of hacker that can use personal information to threaten other ppl. Just by talking to you i have an idea of what the crazy only fans (and i mean just the crazy ones) might have done. I don't see you helping your cause, its just making a worse image worse for you. Any fandom will have fanatic, crazy fans that harm others, i judge via action, not categorization. The theories i have regarding ZZ's sexuality/relationship status isn't based on whether he is effeminate or not. I actually don't find him very effeminate, since honestly a lot of asian guys act like that anyways (lol). Whatever he might wear on the other hand, is a choice he made to show a different side of himself, so the fact that he made that choice to show the public is what i find significant. I'm a pretty skeptical person myself, so my doubts about YZ are daily, but there are many actions or non actions that don't add up to just fan baiting. The hints/bromance that occurs *now* for example, no longer balances out in terms of benefit and cost with what is going on with the ban and the conservative environment, "I THINK". I feel concern for them as well because of the cost that might come if things are too obvious. It's not blind YZ fangirling. And as a disclaimer, that is my personal opinion, although ppl PLEASE, do i in any form appear to be an official staff member that works in ZZ or YZ's teams? Why would you take what i say for gospel truth? Why is it even necessary to have to write "i think" everytime? If you are convinced because of my reasoning that is another thing altogether and not something that we are not allowed to do just because we are YZ shippers. If it's some kind of more incriminating pic or evidence then yeah i think maybe we need to put it under a cut etc, but our opinions... Well I don't know. As for not being a true fan, honestly it is our choice to be a fan or not, even if someone is no longer their fan because their image no longer matches what they want, i don't think that's a crime. Even for only fans, if that is not what you are looking for then it's not shameful to stop being a fan. It's only shameful if you bash them as you leave. If you leave without saying or doing anything to hurt them, who cares honestly. I don't think there is a point in this fandom to talk about being true fans or what not, because the fandom is already too complicated. Keep things enjoyable, if you enjoy keep doing it, if you don't, stop, as ZZ usually advises. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pom sterr Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I have a quick question, has JY or ZZ every declared their sexuality to the public? With their own mouths? Another quick question, out of ALL the CPs, why were YZ singled out? Yes they garnered many views and fans in a matter of days, but what is it about them that got the government to intervene? There are so many other CPs who have gained momentum in the industry too? I really want to dissect this but I don't know enough about the circumstances in which the ban was enforced upon. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhishikta Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 @gesseki- Hey love! Hugsy hugs for ya for making me sound like Hades! "You're gonna hear me ROOOOAR" But jokes apart, I truly thank you for appreciating me in this matter. I was not sure how other members would take it as I am often very opinionated and out spoken. But I couldn't just keep silent when something I believe, I stand up for was being wronged. I get agitated very quickly. There are a few things I dislike the most and false accusation and hypocrisy are two of them. I had to address the post as I found it quite offensive on a personal level. This community has been a secret garden for me. A modified version of Eutopia. Like everyone else here, I have issues in real life too and this place gives me the boost up I need yo trudge through daily life. People may not agree with each other here all the time, but we are tied with the thread of love. Our love for our boys, together and individually. That's what I respect the most about this forum. I often regret for not discovering Addicted early because every time I hear about that ZZ gf fiasco I feel like I should have been here with you guys, fretting together or just clowing around with my delulu to cheer people up. But I hope to be with you all through thick and thin from now on. Love for ya, babe! Abbie 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aikaite123 Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 1 hour ago, pom sterr said: I have a quick question, has JY or ZZ every declared their sexuality to the public? With their own mouths? Another quick question, out of ALL the CPs, why were YZ singled out? Yes they garnered many views and fans in a matter of days, but what is it about them that got the government to intervene? There are so many other CPs who have gained momentum in the industry too? I really want to dissect this but I don't know enough about the circumstances in which the ban was enforced upon. They have, as far as I know, never declared their sexuality directly. Occasionally in interviews they have been asked questions like "what's your ideal girl" or whatever, and have answered them - thus implying they are heterosexual/ bisexual. Spoiler Although it's actually a little hard to tell sometimes in Chinese since the words for "he" and "she" sound exactly the same - so in response to questions like "what is your ideal partner" you can't actually tell what gender they are talking about (unless they use words like "beautiful" etc. which are generally only associated with one gender)... I'm sure someone who has analysed their interviews more can tell you about any times when they have deliberately avoided gendered terms (I seem to only vaguely remember one or two). Spoiler I feel a need to point out that the Chinese government (and therefore SPAFTA or whatever the censorship office's name is...) has been known on several occasions to have (potentially very easy, depending on the service provider) access to the text messages, WeChat messages (or other social media), emails, etc. of people in China. They would also have plenty of contacts in the media production industries. Therefore, you could say they have access to far more "candies" then us YZ fans would ever be able to (or want to) get our hands on... Although admittedly the likelihood that they are actually spying directly on particular individual's accounts is pretty small - they're generally more concerned with looking for keywords relating to terrorism, porn, drugs, etc. so this is just a theory 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearology Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 2 hours ago, pom sterr said: I have a quick question, has JY or ZZ every declared their sexuality to the public? With their own mouths? Another quick question, out of ALL the CPs, why were YZ singled out? Yes they garnered many views and fans in a matter of days, but what is it about them that got the government to intervene? There are so many other CPs who have gained momentum in the industry too? I really want to dissect this but I don't know enough about the circumstances in which the ban was enforced upon. Hi there, Firstly, why do they have to declare their sexuality? It's their private matter and non of our business. They do not have to share that with us. With their own mouths? That will help their career heaps with SPAFT still monitoring them lol. I am CPF and it's a very thin line but we should support JY and ZZ as a singer/actor, not because they have declared their sexuality or not. I just hope once they grow stronger and more established in this industry, they won't be restricted by all these random bans and a big middle finger to whoever have been trying to bring them down. About the ban, if you check out the first page of this thread, there's a huge red link to a post talking about the bans. We have discussed million times in this thread. Again, we are only fans so that is just our speculations. Entertainment industry is complicated so don't expect to find solid evidence for it. JY and ZZ have never and I doubt they will ever talk about the bans publicly. Why were YZ singled out? Again on the first page of the thread, there are links to posts - why do we believe in YZ. There are 2 long translations for it. @johnnyforever those pics were posted just one or two or three pages back if you want to backread. Otherwise you can try google Jingyu Trend Health Mag February issue. JY is so hot there, I know someone is still drooling over these photos, yeah I am talking about you Har-o XD 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1blankstare Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Back just to post this. So cute! Guys. Like ZZ said. Peace! Anyways. Got lots of back reading and liking. Thanks all the updates, translations, discussions and analysis. Love them all despite not agreeing some of them. Anyways I love this pic of ZZ below. So sexy and rugged. Less cute but more sexy and smoking hot. His overall image/appearance here I love it. I'd love to see more of this image from him. Spoiler Loving JY's heart fake tattoo picture. So sexy whale as usual. Edit:Happy Very Belated Birthday! @gashupingo may this year be another prosper year for you. 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearology Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 ZZ weibo update what's with that huge key earring lol Spoiler 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanyanyan88 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, bearology said: ZZ weibo update what's with that huge key earring lol I like these key earrings. Lol. Honestly, I accidentally quoted and submitted this post without meaning to, and I cant find a way to delete this so I'll just leave it like this. >O< mianhe Edited January 25, 2017 by yanyanyan88 Wrong submission of post 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryokise Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 [ENG SUB] 170125 Xu weizhou's zhou travelog (complete ver) 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boysloveismylife Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 11 hours ago, bearology said: ZZ weibo update what's with that huge key earring That's the key to ZZ's heart haha Sry everyone~ I just had to say this :'D Just some thoughts about ZZ being feminine and YZ's sexuality Spoiler I do not think ZZ is feminine at all because I like the feminine type of guys... He's actually pretty manly if I have to say it I think that everyone thinks like this because next to JY he looks pretty feminine and cute but when he is next to other guys he looks like the manly type of guy~ (well at least to me since I like the overly feminine guys that can cook and are girly and look girly because I want to protect them all the time~ but don't mind me please :'D)That still does not have anything to do with anyone's sexuality (there are plenty of overly manly guys who come out as homosexuals) The sexuality part: It's just my opinion when I say that ZZ and JY are most likely bisexual because 100% heterosexual guys may freak out when they have to kiss a guy but some of them are just in denial so they may be bi or homo but not want to acknowledge it. Another one is because ZZ and JY support LGTB but that part still does not say if they are so themselves. Furthermore they do have explained their genderless ideal types plenty of times (but like I said only they know wht they are) but we should not just assume what they are without thinking about other possibilities because it's rude to them to go like "Omg no he needs to be hetero, omg no I won't support him when he's not homosexual) It's hard to say if somebody is hetero, homo or bisexual and it's just me who thinks that they are bisexual just like bearo said~ "After all it's none of our business" but if there is a possibility we shouldn't hurt their feelings by ruling out other possibilities because it may hurt their feelings too right? PS: Listed above are just some points ~ There are plenty of other points why I think like that and I hope I did not hurt anyone's feelings or anything like that but that's just the way I see it Thx for reading 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearology Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Tada! Fanarts!!!!(PLEASE CREDIT "SHANGYIN SOOMPI FAMILY" if you're gonna translate this into other languages!!!!) Translated by @gashupingo @ryokise @prima13facie Proofread by @charlie10 Edited by @HarukoYoshi @skeletonworks @bearology Fanart by Hako缺魚粥 Yeah, this is not a secret! Everyone knowsssss Spoiler Fanarts by 呼呼花- We all know Huang Whale is also a crying baby In case you don't know, the 2 little boys (Little Johnny and Little Timmy) are characters from Sally's (有的是青春_沒的是時間) fan art. Spoiler Zhou Meow is making sure our clumsy Kitten didn't forget his tail Spoiler So kind of Zhou Meow, making sure JY has his tail too Spoiler This one, remember ZZ was wearing this during the Disney event and walking around? It like a Cat being eaten by a Mouse Spoiler Incase you don't know, Pikachu is ZZ's favourite. Remember he was checking on his Pikachu plushie at the airport Spoiler This one is when ZZ hooked fingers with the LV's designer guy at LV event. Zhou Meow always acts cute after he did something wrong cause he knows Huang Whale too well, can't resist his cuteness ahhhh!! Spoiler When Huang Whale throws a tantrum because he is sick This one is from ZZ's weibo post with caption "Guess what I saw" Spoiler Fanart by 嘿喵酱5928 Spoiler Don't know why this one does not display properly arghh!! Link here Fanarts by 有的是青春_沒的是時間 (Sally) We went to the Zoo!!! This CP, I dieeeeee! Too sweetttt!!! Spoiler Little Johnny is taking care of Daddy ZZ for Papa JY Spoiler Papa JY and Little Timmy Spoiler I love when our artists corporate together. Feel more real when characters "travel" between fanarts Spoiler I just loveeee this family Spoiler Awww, when JY has to leave for filming Spoiler Fanarts by Yumi-寵溺Y2_YZ Yuzhou - Merry Christmas Spoiler Yuzhou - You're more than I can handle Spoiler Fanart by 小奶音biubiubiu Worry for Nothing Spoiler 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearology Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 ZZ - 触不到的TA Variety Show Spoiler ZZ - Photoshoot for Givenchy from OnlyLady女人志 Spoiler Gif Spoiler Cr 鲸鱼爱吃喵 ZZ - from his assistant IG. Spoiler Screencap by JT_Project Spoiler Screen cap by 鲸鱼爱吃喵 I think the caption is Sleeping while eating? JY was spotted shopping today in Shanghai Spoiler Cr 小糖等峰来 He signed for this fan. JY - Shenzhen to Shanghai 040117 Spoiler Cr HAIZZ By jjseason Spoiler Fanart by J9294T from ADDIKTED Spoiler If you have WeChat, you can download these stickers by Timmy_and_Johnny fanbase Spoiler 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhishikta Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 This just popped up on my facebook feed minutes ago! My source- PANDA WINGS It was captioned as "Goodbye Paris *kissy cat emoji*" "Cr- timmyxu By- Ting" Original post link-https://m.facebook.com/YZPandaWings/photos/a.1121402917894685.1073741827.1121304057904571/1438585176176456/?type=3&source=48&ref=bookmarks Spoiler Is he scheduled home next? If so, then, yay! Kitty is returning to his Whale!!!! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearology Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) ZZ was spotted yesterday visiting....is it Louvre? Spoiler Cr 糖份少女 JY - Beijing to Shanghai 210117 Spoiler Cr Hyukira YZ Fanmade gifs. Omg, these are so cute!!!!!!! Spoiler Cr 宇宙无敌村花酱 YZ manip Spoiler Cr 宇宙无敌村花酱 Fanart by 有的是青春_沒的是時間. Wow, Little Johnny cosplaying as a Kitten Spoiler Edit: Li Hao weibo update. ZZ is leaving Paris (Paris to ShangHai). Have a good flight ZZ! Spoiler Edited January 25, 2017 by bearology Add 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhouboy Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 On 1/24/2017 at 8:18 PM, jingyuzhou said: @zhouboy @crystalclear18 That Ethan (Ruan) ge is like a big brother to JY, no worries. It's from last year show "Date with Superstar" you can find on youtube I can assure you, you'll like him because he took care of JY and funny to me lol, Same goes to sister Xu Lu. Nothing to be jealous about XD yes I remembered him and the show and they they were buddies. I just haven't seen that clip before. that reaction of JY is just gold to me. haha anyway, ZZ's IG post made my night or dawn. hahaha I love the strawberry and cat ears edit he did. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babykitten Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 5 hours ago, bearology said: Edit: Li Hao weibo update. ZZ is leaving Paris (Paris to ShangHai). Have a good flight ZZ! Reveal hidden contents Spoiler It's interesting that the Chinese caption by Li Hao says "3 single dogs going home for the New Year". Guess now we can really forget about the 11/30 scandal and move on. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryokise Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Lovelythings has uploaded the subs to part 3 of Addicted Webseries BTS DVD Thailand ver 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearology Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 ZZ - today Paris to Shanghai 260117 Spoiler Cr JK不追星 JY - Today Shanghai to Dalian 260117 Cr 放疯Fever Spoiler Cr 嘟lulu. Aiya, our Whale is so cute ahhh Spoiler \ Cr Promise Johnny Spoiler Cr biubiu Spoiler Cr tete_cake Spoiler Cr 黄景瑜仙人掌研究所 Spoiler Cr Johnny_黄景瑜同行站 Spoiler Cr 胖子阿晨啊 Spoiler Cr Enchanting迷魅_黄景瑜个站 Spoiler Cr Dog_Cat瑜洲双人站 Zheng ge Spoiler Cr 鱼粥酥. Poor Zheng ge Spoiler 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystalclear18 Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 Sorry to be a wet blanket and bring this stuff up again, but i finally watched a certain video and i have to say that i am glad for this forum and being able to read posts from during that time. Spoiler I went through the whole depressing incident in the space of 3 hours... =__= I think most members would know which video i'm talking about, the one with ZZ anyways... I went from being heartbroken, disillusioned, then reassessing the whole thing and then went to the forum to check if there was any hope. I'm happy that it doesn't seem like i'm the only one with a similar idea about what was going on.. Anyways, i still feel heartbroken for them, but i guess now i have an idea of why JY drops so many hints sometimes. I was watching that video with JY and the ZZ phone case recently and i couldn't really be sure that JY saw the front of the case or not, but either way he put it to the front so it could be seen very clearly. Now i have an idea of why he might be doing that in such an obvious way and probably was aware of what was on it. I don't know if the stunt was helpful for them, i hope it got them what they wanted. I feel like maybe it was a requirement from the people they are hoping to work with in the industry in order to even have a chance at anything. I also think it was mainly ZZ's team coordinating. But i don't know that it has stopped people from really associating them with each other. This whole thing makes me sad and also reminds me of my dad.. Lol it sounds weird, but my dad is extremely pro-china since he grew up there as a kid (but he's pretty bad even compared to anyone who actually still lives in china) and is also extremely strict. As a result we have a poor relationship. He's all for the bans, like trying to control the entertainment industry so that the actors/stars are always being monitored for negative behaviour, like no drug use, no sex scandals etc. or they'll be banned for a while at least. It sounds crazy to me because the entertainment industry of most countries are pretty seedy. The lifestyle just invites all types of behaviour which is pretty hard to avoid. I think its unpractical and unrealistic, i know it can be done with the power of the government, as my dad likes to say, but its just kind of like.. There are more important things to worry about and exert power over in my opinion. And if there is anything china is lacking it is a bit of creativity.. I have to admit i didn't think that china produced any stars that had good original music beyond the older more traditional music, since a lot of the time they're singing covers of songs produced outside of china. I think the first time i heard a song that was produced/composed by a mainland chinese singer that i thought was actually good, that shut me up a little bit, was ZZ's song on the radio. I didn't know it was ZZ that sang it at the time, i didn't even know who ZZ was, since that was before i watched shangyin. But yeah that was ZZ. Even hong kong is really lacking in good original music now too. I guess with enough money and a big enough population you can produce any type of person that you need, but i think some types of ingenuity and creativity that can actually make a difference, isn't so easily found.. I hope that ZZ and JY will be able to find their place in the industry and maintain it while being happy and i guess its not the most important thing compared to being happy, but i hope they'll be together. The last thing ZZ and JY needs is for me to politicalize anything, so if this post sounds risky to you guys, i'll be happy to edit it. But these are my thoughts after encountering that video lol.. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearology Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 ZZ - Ad for Lexus Spoiler ZZ - Givenchy After Party 200117 Spoiler Cr 鲸鱼爱吃喵 ZZ in Paris 210117 Spoiler Cr daydreamer_- ZZ arriving ShangHai 260117 Cr 放疯Fever Spoiler Cr tete_cake Spoiler Cr InstantCrushZZ Spoiler Cr Hyukira Spoiler Cr eversince Spoiler JY - Shanghai to Dalian 260117 Cr MADYPOKEZ Spoiler Cr planB Spoiler Cr [黄景瑜爱心小站] The Blue bag that JY is holding, thats the slippers designed by Sally - one of our artists You can see her characters wearing this in her fanart/comic. Fans are so sweet!!! Theres a Kitten version too. I hope someone will give it to ZZ XD Spoiler Spoiler Cr [十二个智障馅儿的月饼站] Spoiler Cr 西西係SissiO尼 Spoiler Cr Ly_刘刘刘 Spoiler Random YZ Spoiler Cr 洲瑜的胃药 Fanart by 沫色惜年 Spoiler ------- ZZ's parents picked him up at the airport. Aww! How sweet!!!! And looks like JY cut his hair, for his new movie maybe? So both of them went home today to spend Lunar New Year with their families! Hope both of you will have a good rest And good night everyone 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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