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32 minutes ago, minibunny said:

I hold myself not to care about the husband hunting and focus on the story and since I had this crazy idea about the time 4:33 theory, I have my own beliefs of the hubby and so far so good hehe

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do you remember the time in TK's father shop?? 4:33.. My delusional/crazy theory is

There are 4 guys in R88, 3 guys will involve in husband hunting and the third guy that they're introduced is the husband (in 1st episode)..

Like I said, I'm crazy hehe.. No matter what people said, I am now sure that TK is the husband.. If he's not, I'm still happy because his character is so strong and his relationship with DS is deeper than other characters

 

 

OMG @minibunny yours is the most intelligent and plausible explanation I've read so far for all those 4:33 clocks. Is Taek really the third guy to be introduced in the 1st episode? Alternatively, we can consider him to be the third person to come forth as a husband candidate (1. SW 2. JH 3. TK). 

*clap clap* Good job! I mean, DC korean netizens were all over those 4:33 clocks. They even had a "Taek" day during which fans flooded the forum with Taek-related posts exactly at 4:33 PM local time. But the only explanations they came up with was 4-3-3 soccer formation. LOL. 

I shall be REALLY delulu and do a crazy explanation:

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 @hafunohane mentioned John Cage's 4:33 in a post. I'm actually very familiar with John Cage, being a cellist with conservatory training. Back in the day my orchestra friends all made fun of 4:33. You know why? Because it's (basically) silent. The score calls for 4:33 minutes of SILENCE (the "performer" literally does not play his or her instrument, lol). And you know who else gets scenes with silence? CHOI TAEK. <---- lulz, told you it was delulu...:vicx::w00t:

 

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Hello everyone ^^ I have another sudden thought that I want to share with all of you :) It seems like TK is unexpectedly good with things that are not common for people to be good at or at least with things that asks for competition (baduk, that monopoly like game and the arcade game) so here's where my thought comes in... How would he do in the KBS talent search thing? Wouldn't it be jaw dropping if we all found out that he could also sing well (or maybe dance or some other talent) and after all, PBG does have a nice voice (still not over with his Christmas gift for us, the jingle bell rock performance was cute too) but then again he could be clumsy as hell haha my mind is starting to fantasize things again now that we have to wait for a long time before the new episode come out. I just finished rewatching Wonderful Mama days ago (and I cried a lot in some parts lol) so Now I'm gonna rewatch I Remember You and some other shows to fill in the craving that I have for PBG lolol I hope you guys have a nice day ^^

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So here the song (from the main forum) played during the last scene of TK and DS 

 

the lyrics are interesting

Sad Fate

Though I see the back of you

disappearing out of sight,

I wont say that this moment is... that this our goodbye

It was so sweet

And I wonder how we will forget

our two hearts that have been soaked in all those many memories.

As, i know you'll come back when your loneliness becomes unbearable

ah,  here to my side

you will come back, yes i know

when the times comes, however for me to see you again, i wonder if i will be able to love you again

in the midst of flowing time, how many more tears will i shed again?

*** this song is kinda perfect for TK and DS tbh*** 

like only death separates soulmates and their fate will always return them together

 

 

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I just love how natural Ds and TK is with each other. I've noticed that it's so natural for them to hold hands (e.g. Beach scene, restaurant scene) They are not shy with each other with these things so i think deep down DS is in love with TK. I also think that there is a BIG reason why the child DS's hand was shown tapping gently the shoulders of child TK when they just moved in I think from that moment on TK fell for DS hehehe well just some musings of mine;) I also love that DS nags him with little things and he actually complies and follows her so happily but DS never nagged him about smoking (maybe because she knows how much pressure he's in and if that helps a little then she doesn't nag him about it) :heart:

3 Fav scenes:

1. when TK hugged Ds after the competition (Reaction: OMO! OMO! could he be a Husband material?)

2. when DS came to get him in the Baduk center (Reaction: OH! those two light up like Christmas trees whenever they see each other! Could they be in love?)

3. DS in China and TK realizing that DS did a lot of things for him (Reaction: Heol! DS is his wife!) hahahaha

 

Team TAEK all the way:heart:

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@hafunohane My three favourite DS/Taek moments:

1. that childhood montages when DS, smiling, offered her back to carry Taek. That's the first time I began to think Taek will be the endgame. So far no other candidates got similar cinematic and narrative treatment.

2. In China, when Taek looked up after winning the Baduk game, he noticed DS, she smiled, and he broke into the most amazing smile. Like he couldn't help it...

3. When DS got nosebleed after Taek's elbow accidentally struck her face. The way he tried to unclench  her fist and assured her to rest, while "I'll be working"  was so husbandly... and he continued studying/working while she was sleeping.

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59 minutes ago, Meliere said:

 

OMG @minibunny yours is the most intelligent and plausible explanation I've read so far for all those 4:33 clocks. Is Taek really the third guy to be introduced in the 1st episode? Alternatively, we can consider him to be the third person to come forth as a husband candidate (1. SW 2. JH 3. TK). 

*clap clap* Good job! I mean, DC korean netizens were all over those 4:33 clocks. They even had a "Taek" day during which fans flooded the forum with Taek-related posts exactly at 4:33 PM local time. But the only explanations they came up with was 4-3-3 soccer formation. LOL. 

I shall be REALLY delulu and do a crazy explanation:

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 @hafunohane mentioned John Cage's 4:33 in a post. I'm actually very familiar with John Cage, being a cellist with conservatory training. Back in the day my orchestra friends all made fun of 4:33. You know why? Because it's (basically) silent. The score calls for 4:33 minutes of SILENCE (the "performer" literally does not play his or her instrument, lol). And you know who else gets scenes with silence? CHOI TAEK. <---- lulz, told you it was delulu...:vicx::w00t:

 

 May I interrupt here, coz I am over excite for Taec being the last guy/ the final husband hunting for deok sun, I love this theory and all  you mentioned above its like give a prove or evidence for the official poster stand casts arrangement. why drong-yong is in the left side, then Deok-son, sunwo, jung-whan, and the last from the right side is Urie TAEK?

from the previous series like 1997 and 1994, the female leads (eunji and go ara,) are standing in the center of the casts,here &h=530&w=520&tbnid=0X1SyVfLzzUaSM:&docid and &h=2480&w=2528&tbnid=jETK5cJ38aN0dM:&doc. but in 1988, deok sun stands in the second place from the left side, and in order to sunwo (the first husband candidate), jung-whan (the second husband hunting) and the last/ the right side is Taek (the final destination of Urie deok sun). &h=374&w=1102&tbnid=gFF3tNY6Cisq9M:&doci

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I mean, this standing arrangement is in the two periods of their eras, when they child and in their teenagers. why they are forcing this case into its?  what I am afraid about, why jung-whan sitting down by himself alone? my crazy mind imagines the worst case, in case, if jung-whan never confesses his feeling to deuksun, he will be eliminated from the husband candidate, but if he confesses his feeling, so Taek will never be the last one.

moreover, can anyone gives me a picture of them when they are children. when they played with the horses, and four of them were looking at drong-yong who is playing alone excitedly?

I am soory guys if my English written is bad,

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I think the fact they are re-airing the episodes/taking a week break is good for some JH shippers or people who did not want to invest in TK and DS in fear of the heartbreak...this way before the last episodes they can pay attention to  the scenes they dismissed the first time and see how actually in the past 6 episodes a lot has happened narrative wise for DS and TK

regarding the 3, i think the same ep that TK asked about the movie and was introduced as a possible husband, JH dad did the finger thing to JH mom, and he did it three times and on the third time she bite his finger...could that mean the third is the one that is the chosen one

also my 3 fav scenes:

1. DS giving TK piggyback ( I DIED FROM THE CUTENESS, like i love how DS just did what was natural for her even though it was TK arm and not leg, and I love how TK went with it.)

2. TK remembering manitto and coming out and DS not getting angry with him. Like knowing how excited DS was, i felt it showed her maturity, and the level of relationship she had with TK)

3. Chip beach scene. it was everything. I felt like the blue chair observing them being in love. like that scene had the right beats and the right amount of non-verbal signs and it was cute, funny, and intimate ( tk says stop as the camera pans to the other three and which imo ieven hinted the sensuality of the moment...)

sigh it was really hard to pick but i think these scenes showed so much and were all pre-confession of both boys which made them so pure in a way 

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YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THE BEST PART ABOUT LOVING TAEK IS? JUST LOVING TAEK. I can talk about him for hooouurrs outside of the love triangle.

I loveeee the subtle things, the gradual build-up. As we've established, Taek grows/gets revealed little by little, and these episodes totally catered to that in the way that the neighbors emphasize (via dialogue) that Taek hates favors--but he'll request one from the hospital director just for JH's dad. They emphasize that Taek gets his competitive streak from his father and how he, the super-busy-and-above-the-mundane-things Great Choi Taek 6-dan Baduk Master Sir spends time in the arcade just to beat JB's high score-- but then he swalLOWS HIS LOVE FOR HIS BEST FRIEND. (I get it. JH did it too, but just. the emphasis. on Taek's. personality. It's important.)

Taek is so human that I honestly could have seen him going either way. I wouldn't have been surprised if he were to unleash his competitive side, but I wouldn't have been surprised if he backed down either. This. Is. So. Human! It's okay to have multiple fates! And you know what? He kind of did a little bit of both. He originally laid it down: he's going to confess to DS after his next competition. But then he decides against it. *sounds of my heart breaking and ugly sobs* And I love him more for it.

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THIS THIS THIS OH THIS has got to be one of the most beautiful moments this week. It pits minimalistic father and son together to reaffirm their feelings for one another. It's supposed to be unnatural given that this has got to be their longest conversation in the show, but they push beyond that awkward wall with the intensity of their love (and Taek's smile). And then appa can't take the cute and just tells him to eat. KYAAA~ I can soooo relate to this because my dad doesn't do deep conversations, but it's the little things like him saying, "Eat a lot," that actually mean, "I love you."

Interlude:

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TK is sooooo alike his father! Taekie appa has slowly but very easily become my favorite dad in the series. Like his son, this man has so many layers! First he was the ahjussi who silently swept and ran the jewelry store in the neighborhood. Then we see that he's superman, a bear who's afraid of mice and most recently, competitive and athletic are newfound traits. At the same time, the beauty of it is that these two are not carbon copies of one another. Though very similar in their intensities and core traits, they branch off into their own characters, and it's just so endearing to watch them unveil. (':

 @shooastrid ... hats off and deep bows for your baduk post. And @Meliere connecting CHOI TAEK 6-DAN TO EPISODE 6 OMG. YES. I was always a tiny bit curious as to why they chose to start the show off with him as a 6-dan but never seemed to be able to click it with episode 6. Look me in the eye and tell me this isn't a coincidence Shin-PD!

Ummmumumumummmm stayed tuned as I try to decide which scenes are my favorite and what I want to see next :tears:

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20 minutes ago, mangachickava said:

I think the fact they are re-airing the episodes/taking a week break is good for some JH shippers or people who did not want to invest in TK and DS in fear of the heartbreak...this way before the last episodes they can pay attention to only the scenes they dismissed the first time and see how actually in the past 6 episodes a lot has happened narrative wise for DS and TK

regarding the 3, i think the same ep that TK asked about the movie and was introduced as a possible husband, JH dad did the finger thing to JH mom, and he did it three times and on the third time she bite his finger...could that mean the third is the one that is the chosen one

also my 3 fav scenes:

1. DS giving TK piggyback ( I DIED FROM THE CUTENESS, like i love how DS just did what was natural for her even though it was TK arm and not leg, and I love how TK went with it.)

2. TK remembering manitto and coming out and DS not getting angry with him. Like knowing how excited DS was, i felt it showed her maturity, and the level of relationship she had with TK)

3. Chip beach scene. it was everything. I felt like the blue chair observing them being in love. like that scene had the right beats and the right amount of non-verbal signs and it was cute, funny, and intimate ( tk says stop as the camera pans to the other three and which imo ieven hinted the sensuality of the moment...)

sigh it was really hard to pick but i think these scenes showed so much and were all pre-confession of both boys which made them so pure in a way 

 

Can we do some request scenes?

LOL its funny becos your num 1 is what my num1 request scene.

1) I want adult TK to give DS a piggyback ride after the time skip... I am guessing he will be the first to leave the neighbourhood. He is the most financially capable one to do so... And can make up some reasons easily enough. He can't go on pretending to be ok with the gang after this I don't think... Maybe after not seeing each other for a while, DS twist her ankle ( ahem real or not is another thing...haha) and he just can't help it? 

2) lots of sweet skinship...hahaha they better after putting our hearts through the wringer for ep16... 

3) Children. I want them to have genius children hahaha DS will always lose to them when they are playing games etc... So in the present both of them will almost be 50... their kids should be early 20s then...hahahah 
(talk about counting chickens before they hatch right LOL ) 

 

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my favorites scenes of our couple, honestly I love all of their scenes, and got hard time to choose between all of them. coz I always watched their parts more than 10 times when I watched again every episode. honestly at the moment, what is in my mind are the scenes of when Taek was under deoksun hand, I mean when he felt guilty for what he have done to deokson, for example, 1) when he remembered that he slept over all the time at theater  when they watched the movie at the first snowfall. 2) when the celebrate jung-whan birthday and discussed to watch porn video, while deokson is okey with it to wacthed it together but taek refused to do it, and she was angry for that, while taek gave his answer by saying' he did not like this kind of movie", this bickering likes couple confrontation. 3). when deokson hit taek  because of his clingy personality. he ordered alot of errand to her. etc.

guys, I love all their scenes, and now,  I feel guilty to chose just three of them T-T. mianhe.........

million love to taek aka PBG for his voice and his acting giving the life of TAEK's character.

my dearest deok sun aka hyeri, who is brightening the entire audiences for her kindness, and cheerfulness, may U shine the life of the four beasts in your story, the sun of ssammyungdong.

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i actually love this move Tk made.

everybody thought he will fight back getting his competitive side on. but he didn't..

and this have twist everything even further and this is what made taek's fate so different from CB's fate.

he did not resist or persist, he actually give up on DS (which by the way, poor girl she still thinks noone likes her)

it's not a noble idiot because he's not.. it's a calculated well thought act.. before the phone called he made to cancelled the plan.

i cried with TK (literally insane sobbing actually-- it was not pretty guys) and moment of realization came to me..

"aahhhh.. this is why i was on this sinking ship.. this is why i love TK so so much.."  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, mm_7888 said:

i actually love this move Tk made.

everybody thought he will fight back getting his competitive side on. but he didn't..

and this have twist everything even further and this is what made taek's fate so different from CB's fate.

he did not resist or persist, he actually give up on DS (which by the way, poor girl she still thinks noone likes her)

it's not a noble idiot because he's not.. it's a calculated well thought act.. before the phone called he made to cancelled the plan.

i cried with TK (literally insane sobbing actually-- it was not pretty guys) and moment of realization came to me..

"aahhhh.. this is why i was on this sinking ship.. this is why i love TK so so much.."  

I don't like TK's move because I hate kdrama logic of noble idiocy marking one a  fiirst lead.

But, hey... if this means this ship will sail, I can live with that. And the moves, by JH and Taek, emphasize what's great about these five kids from the block...

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I actually hate the noble idiocy thing when it appeared in Reply. Are the boys too cocky that they thought DS would like them if they tell her they like her? Anyways, when JH did that everybody expected it and before he did that jh-ds shippers were all over the moon doing fanfics about how it would be angsty in the next few episodes and then kissing scenes. So when TK did it I am also over the moon :lol:. So I really want to know why netz like tk to confess first. Should jh do that since he is been in the triangle far longer? He should realize next episode TK give up and gave him the go signal to win DS heart. Really, if you are jh-ds shipper you have nothing to worry about.  The biggest block to the otp give up without even putting up a fight. Without DS knowing even a hint of TK's crush on her.

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14 minutes ago, monsterlife said:

I actually hate the noble idiocy thing when it appeared in Reply. Are the boys too cocky that they thought DS would like them if they tell her they like her? Anyways, when JH did that everybody expected it and before he did that jh-ds shippers were all over the moon doing fanfics about how it would be angsty in the next few episodes and then kissing scenes. So when TK did it I am also over the moon :lol:. So I really want to know why netz like tk to confess first. Should jh do that since he is been in the triangle far longer? He should realize next episode TK give up and gave him the go signal to win DS heart. Really, if you are jh-ds shipper you have nothing to worry about.  The biggest block to the otp give up without even putting up a fight. Without DS knowing even a hint of TK's crush on her.

 

This is a great way for the story to go. If JH confesses first, DS may think that this is it! Someone likes her! And they may start a relationship which may or may not work out. And same for Taekie. Currently, she feel so unloved she will think true love is anyone liking her. 

However, in this day and age even though the story is set back in 1988, the writer may still want to empower the female lead by letting her be the one to discover what her own feelings are, and for her to be the one to confess! 
I have confidence in our DS! Taek is not the block to the 'OTP' ... the very fact that people complain nothing been happening for the OTP is because, that is not the OTP. Our OTP is here!! hahahaha 

I don't know how to pass these 14 days. Let's give each other alot of love and support! I am rewatching the eps... Many things make alot more sense now... 

 

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13 minutes ago, monsterlife said:

I actually hate the noble idiocy thing when it appeared in Reply. Are the boys too cocky that they thought DS would like them if they tell her they like her? Anyways, when JH did that everybody expected it and before he did that jh-ds shippers were all over the moon doing fanfics about how it would be angsty in the next few episodes and then kissing scenes. So when TK did it I am also over the moon :lol:. So I really want to know why netz like tk to confess first. Should jh do that since he is been in the triangle far longer? He should realize next episode TK give up and gave him the go signal to win DS heart. Really, if you are jh-ds shipper you have nothing to worry about.  The biggest block to the otp give up without even putting up a fight. Without DS knowing even a hint of TK's crush on her.

The thing about JH's noble idiocy is that it's in his character that has been so far established. When his inaction becomes so frustrating to watch, I began to think that that's just who he is. Although the thought of looking after Taek's "fragile" emotional  state  might have factored into it.

But with Taek, I exoect him to lay the fact/option first, "I like you. But it's up to you..." So I mused earlier whether he stepped back because he thought DS reciprocated JH's feeling (he still asked her to go the movie even after he figured out JH). Then to me, it is "understandable": no point in going forwards if DS already liked someone else, more so if DS liked JH.  Maybe I just don't want Taek to be too supermanly kind, self-sacrificing lamb.

On another point, DS not knowing the fact will give DR's advice profound heft: why are so upset about not being loved? what matters is who you love... 

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1 hour ago, liteulkwin said:

YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT THE BEST PART ABOUT LOVING TAEK IS? JUST LOVING TAEK. I can talk about him for hooouurrs outside of the love triangle.

I loveeee the subtle things, the gradual build-up. As we've established, Taek grows/gets revealed little by little, and these episodes totally catered to that in the way that the neighbors emphasize (via dialogue) that Taek hates favors--but he'll request one from the hospital director just for JH's dad. They emphasize that Taek gets his competitive streak from his father and how he, the super-busy-and-above-the-mundane-things Great Choi Taek 6-dan Baduk Master Sir spends time in the arcade just to beat JB's high score-- but then he swalLOWS HIS LOVE FOR HIS BEST FRIEND. (I get it. JH did it too, but just. the emphasis. on Taek's. personality. It's important.)

Taek is so human that I honestly could have seen him going either way. I wouldn't have been surprised if he were to unleash his competitive side, but I wouldn't have been surprised if he backed down either. This. Is. So. Human! It's okay to have multiple fates! And you know what? He kind of did a little bit of both. He originally laid it down: he's going to confess to DS after his next competition. But then he decides against it. *sounds of my heart breaking and ugly sobs* And I love him more for it.

 

 

YES YES YES @liteulkwin YOUR POST IS GOLDEN. Thank you for literally enhancing my enjoyment of this show.

You are so right about Taek doing a bit of both. I love that he didn't give up on his confession easily, and did not arrive at the final decision immediately. Since episode 6, we've witnessed his feelings for DS grow from crush to equal importance as Dad & baduk to perhaps more important than life itself. Beyond his sense of determination and competitiveness, there's an instinctual love for DS above all. Even after finding out Jung Hwan likes her, Taek didn't hesitate to follow DS out when she wasn't feeling well. I didn't interpret that scene as his competitive urge showing; but rather the most important thing at that moment is DS-- she isn't feeling well so he should offer her medicine, everything else be damned. 

Also, Taek's noble idiocy isn't simply grounded in "bro code" or "bros before hos". His glance at their childhood photo is the most revealing clue. What's at stake here isn't merely JH's feelings, but the entire squad dynamic. If he and JH were at odds with each other, it'd implicate DR and SW in the conflict too, since they won't be able to pick a side. DS too. It would be brutal for her to lose JH just to date TK, and vice versa. So in this case it really is a choice between preserving squad!love or dating DS. And I think Taek knew that it would be a selfish crime to rob DS of her place in the squad, or destroy her ability to bask in squad!love of days old. 

This perfectly layered build up, plus the awesome direction, pretty much left me sobbing like a baby when I got to the end of the episode. My god did I cry.

 

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I have seen the following comment on main thread/ by JH-DS shippers and kinda wanted to discuss it here ( because y'all are so insightful) 

~TK actions signalled him pulling out of the triangle~

now below are my own thoughts but please add!

Ok so the statement is true in a sense. TK did say no to competing and agreeing to complete the triangle because he did not pull DS into it by making her aware. In order for the familial relationship between the 5 to remain in the future, there can't be a triangle. Once 2 of them marry, the other must have already found their partner, so like the analogy of baduk mentioned, I feel the future scenes will quickly highlight the individual that will find someone else that they love and declare "defeat" because it unnecessary to prolong it. However, I thought it was interesting that the writer had TK leave the room and not be present when SW and DR mention his movie plans to JH. Therefore, right now TK does not know that JH knows that he had planned to confess and therefore did not confess because of their friendship. Jh right now has the most amount of pieces in his hands, and is the one that must *connect* it all. After knowing what TK did, I highly doubt JH would go against all of his characterization of 6 episodes and confess right away to DS, especially since it is study/future time. Furthermore, right now JH is still nursing his feelings for DS and DS has not verbalized her own feelings, therefore, everyone will be focused on dealing with themselves till the time skip. Once the time skip happens, at the reunion ( i am assuming people separate) one of the boys needs to have closure and have no hard feelings regarding the couple. This person is not pointing in TK direction right now. Its point to JH who is the one that knows the most of why things did not work out in the past. I will stick by it that the narrative has set it up for him to push DS to go after TK once the final piece of the puzzle is provided, DS feelings. Now some would argue that TK can do the same thing as JH and tell DS that JH liked her but because he confessed he didnt go after her. but TK doesnt really know the full extent of what JH did not do ( pink shirt for one, semi confession?) so it doesnt really work. It also doesnt really work because as i said the timing. JH "noble idiot" actions were in ep more prior and Tk is the ep right before the time jump. There is a reason why they showed for 6+ ep JH attempting to move on, because it ultimately has to make sense to viewers how he was able to reach a place of peace. sigh I think i rambled but seeing JH.DS fans are using TK "is it okay if i lose" to foreshadow him pulling out just doesnt make sense to me.

 

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PLEASE ... CAN SOMEONE KINDLY COMPILE A SUNTAEK PLAYLIST?? LIKE WITH ALL THE AWESOME MUSIC FEATURED DURING THEIR SCENES? 

*CRY* I need something to tide me over the next 2 weeks. 

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EDIT:

OKAY CHINGUS, I started a playlist. It's public and in collaborator mode, so anyone can add to it. Please contribute to it y'all: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLShRRgIDaAJ6WGfsBIe1M2Pz0Ls-6m9Ak&jct=6WdQPXpQ3vxG-Rk-AwzG37Jzzhqn0A

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