rumasa79 8,264 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 2 hours ago, feignedreality said: The king looks like he'll drop dead any minute. Why is Baek-Ah extra gorgeous in this episode?! I cannot... Baek ah is BAE ....and bae is hurt. I cried rivers here :'(((((((((( Am too shocked. 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Rosemary83 598 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 The writer can not be WookSoo shipper, bcs his character is a real awful coward while So is an incredible man. She (I suppose it is she:) is just fond of the process "getting the girl " especially by such a determine man) 12 Link to post Share on other sites
Immortal_Angel 2,110 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I'm frustrated with Hae Soo so much especially with the Wook scene but when I think about it, I think she is heartbroken by his action but then she still cares for him cause he was the first one to reach out to care for her when she first appeared in a strange place. So he will always have a special place in her heart, when she questioned him if he miss her or not she probably wanted to figure out if all of it was real or not but I feel like she realized that the moment he turn his back on her when she was in the rain, she figured that he wasn't going to risk everything for her and she felt that part of her died. When she questioned him if he miss her, etc she probably want to know was it easy for him to live knowing what happen to her and yet he didn't bother doing anything beside Jung who gave her medication for her wound. I think the moment he turn his back after the conversation, she realized its time to let it go and that love is over As for the rejections toward So true its harsh, but she didn't want to cause him anymore harm. After the poison incident, she felt responsible and was afraid that whoever comes near her or tries saving her ends up hurt or dead like So with the poison and Lady Oh trading her life for hers. She knows he doesn't like the life in the palace but stayed for her and she knows he's risking it wanting to be with her since she probably believe she's jinx. She knows he's hurt enough from the people treating him differently, she doesn't want him to suffer cause of her so she tries her best to push him away. its like in BBJX Spoiler RuoXi tries her best to avoid 4th all the time and reject his proposal when he ask but he still waits for her patiently knowing one day she will say yes. And when she "broke up" with 8th and stayed with 4th she knows the only way to survive is to side with one that will be king but little did she knows her she did loved him. What I believe the writers are trying to do is that she's doing this for So's benefit like the king, he wants So to endure the pain and the suffering in order to shape him to be a better king then he was. I believe when the king said Hae Soo was from a different place he figured she was like JM who knows about the future and he knows how it will end that is the reason why JM insist on So staying in the palace so things can fall into place like the history and the king figured that Hae Soo will be the trigger of it. I believe what Hae So saw in those visions is more really like if she didn't do this this would happen. I believe after the conversation with the king, Hae Soo figured that in order for So to be king, he needs somebody to pushed him and who else is good and manipulative? Yeonhwa of course. I know some of you really want So-Soo ship to start already but just please be patience I get there like 8 episodes left but let me remind you that in the cversion its over like 42 episodes and the romance of 4th and Ruoxi didn't start fully until like episode 30! I know Hae Soo is thinking of So already and her heart is wavering but she can't risk another person dying because of her and she knows he cares for her so she doesn't want him to risk everything for her. So now that she figure the king is shaping So for his future, she knows she is going to be a pawn in the game even though he said for her to watch it unravel, little did he knows for things to unravel and move according for future history Hae Soo is involved. As for JM I feel like he knows everything is going to happen and he help push it to happen so history can act according to what its suppose to and he is using Hae Soo to do it. But for it to happen, she has to endure the hardship and true its not fair for her but I cannot help but wonder, did he choose her out of the blue or like a time loop he knows Hae Soo is destined to return to the past in order for history to happen? For me, I will continue watching it hoping the writers won't disappoint us and give us a true love between So and Soo soon. They want to probably get rid of the politics stuff so they can focus on the love story later but I'm waiting for Soo to return Wook the bracelet ending it between them 21 Link to post Share on other sites
riuenu 32,941 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 alright guys...this fanart did cure my little fragile heart abit ...alright...I mean alot.... credit to @KAluvJG 22 Link to post Share on other sites
sunshinefate 5,862 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 11 minutes ago, kuanphing said: Yes..its more like haesoo will support soo, guide him to become a king. Not even a bit love sign between from haesoo. The thing upsetting that should be sweet moment (the kiss, the backhug) become very meningless bcos haesoo too depressed and so cold toward soo. Maybe she still need time to console her feeling..hope one day she can smiling for soo. Even so, I still hope for a better development for the rest of the drama. Yeah, I also think that the kiss and back hug were all meaningless as she still has not seen wang so romantically. Will the 7 episodes left contain more passionate scenes between them? I hope so 14 Link to post Share on other sites
LoveSG 26,717 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, Mau_Cherry said: Just to make that clear... we saw Wook screaming out Soos Name (feels ages ago) and we all had thoughts like - he will find out So is blamed, framed, tortured... ordered to kill!!!! And I could feel him... even he lost my sympathy... but what to Hell is this... He found out Soo left the Palace so HE can´t see her anymore It´s not about Soo might be in Danger or in Pain - no - as I see it - Wook is just the weak and selfish Idiot again. I felt nothing for that crying scene, unlike in the preview where I cried.... the reason for his cry was so lame.... I sweat 12 minutes ago, amisyka77 said: Guys...guys...order..! order..!...dont be mad...! i was live streaming and with no sub, i dont really know what they are talking...BUT..i watched really closely HS...you guys need to watch her eyes..her expression...when she interacted with WS or WW...then maybe you can see what is really in her heart..what she really feels.. HS -WS everytime she is with WS...i feel teary eyed...there is something deep in her eyes everytime she's with WS but she didnt voice it out...the goodbye scene before he went away, the laundry scene when he came back...the proposal scene..she had tears in her eyes...Like she is doing her damnest not to give in to WS...she is denying her own feelings for him...yes..she is being a noble idiot here...maybe she is afraid if she gives in, she will change the history...if she accepted him, WS will not become a king because WS will do what he said he'll do - abandon the palace for her and the king will punish him...more over the king has warned her not to do anything...that brought us to the scene where she rejected again WSs proposal...WS is a man who is persistent and he would never back off from HS..thus she resort to saying nasty things to him to chase him away ( which we know will never succesful). WHAT IF, the reason HS was brought over from modern time is to be a driving force or a catalyst for WS to start wanting become a king ? His love for her is what changed him from 'i-dont-give-a-damn' view and motivate him to join the game of throne. WW The staircase scene with WW...the time she looked at his back..i dont think it is love...more like sad and defeated..seemed that she realised they have no hope anymore..the night scene at the river a year after...a whole year when WW had not even once came to see her.. when she told him she missed him..her eyes seemed to tell something else..what she said sound like a sarcastic statement ' I missed you' but in her head she continues : ''You said you missed me but you never once come to see me...you think i'll buy that?!!' ' I think she is over WW..i dont see anymore love in her eyes for him because at the moment she is having a hell of a time denying her growing love for WS. Call me an optimistic or too biased for HS but it is interesting if we analysed all the look and expressions that she gave off. BTW..i was literally screaming out NOOOOOO! when BA jumped in and that the stab from WH...never saw that twist coming... Cant wait for the subbed.. This drama is killing me softly as WS is as hot as hell in this ep..how can a man be sooooo beautiful than all the females it beats me!!!! IKR! I nearly jumped up from my seat at WH knocking into BA who appeared before her without warning. It was at a blink of an eye that he blocked her path... I was just wondering... how did BA move so fast! but he really looked like in pain at that moment of impact. Good expressions by Nam Joo Hyuk and Seohyun! Another scene I loved was the teasing scene. BA was so funny! He misled her to think he is married but he was only talking about his mum! This guy is humourous! And the hug he gave her... https://twitter.com/ygk_skawngur https://twitter.com/ygk_skawngur https://twitter.com/ygk_skawngur 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Gabi Bros 24,613 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 People are you really shipping YeonHwa with Wang So because Hae Soo is a fool...or because you really think she is a nice person for him? LOL I can imagine her being totally capable of hurting his baby like Queen Yoo did to baby Wang So...she is no different. Honestly, if Wang So have another woman...I want a nice woman not a witch. He don't deserve that. 18 Link to post Share on other sites
0ly40 30,475 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 OST part. 10: 11 Link to post Share on other sites
chi13lou 33,414 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 39 minutes ago, lavendre said: Hae Soo and Wook definitely deserved each other. They have to be the true OTP of this drama. An emotional true love story where the female lead has unconditional love and unrelenting understanding for her man even though he has abandoned and forsook her a few times. How 'touching'! Wang So should just marry Yeon Hwa. She is intelligent (good trait for a queen) and is devoted to him (which I m sure she will be when he becomes King). Everybody will be happy with this because HS, WW and YH will be happy, and WS being so understanding of HS will accept that this is his destiny. 10 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post solelylurking 4,761 Posted October 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2016 Well this is a confusing episode but I'm used to be confused when it comes about Hae Soo. So where shall we begin? The heroine? The hero? Or the big bad wolf who begin to crawled his path to the dark world? Let's just blend them together this time. I promise, I'll save the best for last. The episode begin with Wang So stubborness to save HS in front of his father. He defied once again to save the damsel in distress. If only HS would see what WS had done for her. He risked his neck time and again. The king sent WS away to the far land and sent HS away to a place where it is nearly (just nearly) impossible for the princes to see her. Before his journey, he went to see HS for the last time. HS wasn't saying anything about being kicked out of Damiwon but that uri HS. I'll keep a positive mind at that point. Maybe she didn't want him to be worry. She tries her best to shoo him away (why meeting him then, you say? Let's just say to say a proper goodbye. Whoo. Don't lose patience, me). He didn't back out, as always, to hear HS's words to not see her again. That I should be the last time they see each other. I guess he used to that by now. He stole a kiss and keep the hair pin she return as a talism. One thing to remember her by. So our pair begun their own journey, each was a struggle on their own. There's a scene in the middle which I don't quite get but I think it's a classic symbol of unrequited love. It was when Wook saw HS walking away but he turned his head just a moment before HS saw her, standing in the middle of the path with his head turned away. I can only imagine how HS's feeling at that time. The guy you love and promise to be forever with, turn his head yet again from you. But then as she started to walk away again, Wook's head facing her again, seeing the back of the girl he loves dearly hardly walking from her limping feet. Jung then come to tell Wook the news of HS when he writes her name out of longing (my fave scene becomes hollow. I literally curse). He ran to her room and saw an empty room and begin to cry and shouted her name. HS turned her back, as if she can hear his voice. Maybe she can. HS began her job as launder. Her feet still limped from the torture, her face was pale and tired but she did her job earnestly. Her friends try to open a conversation about the princes but she shut them down and bullied because of it. This girl sure know how to survive on her own (for those who didn't get it, I meant it sarcastically). Jung and Wook, I guess now they are a pair like WS and BA, witnessed this scene and Wook quickly turnes away, unable to see. His face was full of pain but he quickly washed that out when Jung confroted him. Jung said he knew Wook used to love her. That words kicked him hard, for a second he forget to hide his expression. Used to. Is it really the case? He came to see her that night. Maybe unsucced to press the urge not to. He askes how she was. She said she miss him. His face change slightly. But he went on. He honestly tell her now what he lacks, the reason why he couldn't save her and she must have hate him because of that. But she said again that she missed him and asked, 'Do you miss me too?' You can see tears starts brimming in his eyes. 'Every day', he said. 'Every second'. He told her he can promise her anything this time, but he will do what ever he can to get her place back for her. HS told her not to conflict himself because of her. That she was ok and told him to take better care of himself first. What came from his mouth makes me ponder: "Stop it. Are you trying to make me feel more guilty?". Guilty. That word seem to haunted him. That's why he tried extra best to be a king, even hinting of selling his sister to Yo, not only to get her back but also to pay for his mistakes to HS. He is a nasty debt collector and make YH nervous because of it (good). Do still remember about what I said that the prod team should make KHN and IU become their next project but not on this one? I still stand by this. They make Wook and HS had a heart wrenching relationship where the girl stay faithful even when so often threw under the bus and the guy seems can't let go eventhough he should. They make the meeting of Wook and HS more meaningful than WS and HS. You know now why my patience is thinning by each scene. It's a year after after and our hero came back. The first thing he did was to break all his promises to his father because his father didn't keep his. For WS, again HS comes first of anything. His father said as king he must be ready to ditched anyone and he did that, banishing HS, because he care for him. WS firmly said he will never be king nor that he wants to. In his heart and mind, it was as clear as crystal that all he wanted was to be with HS. So, he came and look for her. HS thought she was halucinating when she saw a glimpse of WS with a masked on. But then came his sexy voice, tell her she was more pretty as a launder than as a palace maid, scolding her for disobeying him to stay at Damiwon. He backed hug her and told her he missed her. She pushed him away but he insist, looking at her dry and hard hand and feel sorry about it. Then, she asked hastily and worried, why he wore his mask again. Did he forget how to apply his make up? Is his wound got worse? He simply took off his mask and said that he wore that to remember her. After that she pushed him away again, even when he cone running to catch her. This time it's a little too harsh. I couldn't forget the look of WS's face. At this point I almost throw my remote to my tv. Seriously. Wtf is this? Even I can write ff better than this. This isn't how you write playing a sad push and pull. Ok, fine she wasn't trying to. She is trying her best to pushed him away because she didn't want to get tangled again. She only ask about the mask because her worries got the better of her. There. I've tried not to say I had enough of HS. Let's move on. Scenes later is not very clear to me. So I write what I can remember. It is clear that Yo and Wook plotting something when Wook wore his armour underneath his robe and they contradicted each other to make their father come to the party. But it work. The king came despite being ill. YH come to WS and ask him to marry him but got turned down. His words indicate that he knew YH wants a man with the greed of power and she shouldn't pick him because he is none of that. But YH, who worry sick because his dear brother threatens her, push on and said she had love him for a long time, but still got turn down. Ouch. The King drank HS's tea, courtesy of JM, and summon her. He told her that he already investigate her roots and cone to the conclusion she is not from this world (he ven spot on about what HS knew about WS becoming a king)and warned her, as a father because Madam Oh thinks of her as her daughter, to not run away. He said this because HS asks to be sent as far as she can from the palace because she didn't want to interfere. But the king, on contrary, said she must witness everything. WS waited for her that night. He asked her hand in marriage and if she still didn't like him she can ask for a divorce but got turn down (aahh.. The look of pain in his face is making my heart ache). She said he was destined to be something and ask, "What if you can be king?" WS didn't didn't get it but asked her, "Do you want me to be king? If I become a king can I have you?" For WS, it's not the tittle that matters. Being a king without his HS is an empty chair. He only wants to live with her and took care of her. Waaahhh. That was something, right? HS still turn down his offer. When she turned back, she saw Wook. Her face changed. Wook's face was hard and dark. She managed to get away because Wook stopped WS. Wook warned WS not to make empty promises to HS because they both know a prince can't marry a launder. WS and his stubbornness said, "If I say marriage, the I'll marry her". Wook seems forget about how little did WS care about anything or anyone other than HS and BA. Wook pressed on. He blamed WS about everything that happen to HS. But WS slapped him back beautifully. He even said, "Your incompetence makes my blood boils!" They seems to continued their fight as their grabbing each other collar. In the other place, BA git stabbed by Woo Hee when he realized she was going to kill the king. And as the screen died down, WS glance to Wook's armour beneath his robe. His mind seems to realize something. I'm sorry if my recap is unreadable. Believe me, I am as confuse as you are about this episode. There are many things I don't get. And HS still can make me change my mind about her (sorry guys, she haven't change yet). WS still solid as a rock about his feeling. It is really admirable. They now gave us a reason of how and why he wanted to be king. HS plants that seed in his head. She indirectly and coincidently, makes him think (I think), that she wants him to be a king. Wook, in the other hand, tried his best to forget or at least hide his feeling about HS and persue his ambition but failed miserably. His love is so deep, I think there is no way to get out of it. He now wears his dark face casually. Jung told Wook he was worried about Yo greediness will swallow Yo himself. But that's nothing new to Wook. In fact he will try his best to make advantages of that. I come to like YH for a little bit. She stood up against Queen Yo and told her not to belittled her mother next time. It makes Yo fascination of her grow bigger. He again proposed her, give her a ring and told her he will divorce his other wife once he is a king. We can tell that YH reluctant to marry Yo what ever Yo's offer is. But then Wook come to hint of collecting her debt in the most obvious way, it is hard to missed out. Well, I guess the sheep finally has sharp teeth. We'll see if the next episode can make up for ep 12 and answer things that still hovering. Yes. It's about HS. What will she do? Will she stay by WS side to make him king? Will she told Wook about his premonition because of her lingering feeling for him? Will she change to become a heroine I could like and root for earnestly? We know whom she choose between the guy who take no for an answer and a prince charming who hide his darkness underneath his skin just like he hides his armour underneath his robe. The question is: when? We don't have much time. There is still 3 dead kings, conflicts and wars, and the race for the throne and the girl. Will we even have time to witness a convincing deep and undying love between WS and HS when it's already ep 12 and they still gave me an urge to throw things when our OTP came to the screen. Ps: I know some of you didn't agree with how I see HS or current relationship status with both princes, but this is my perspective and opinion. I am entittled to have it. But I respect our differences and still view yours as a possibility and mine can be wrong. Thank you. 34 Link to post Share on other sites
SizzlerZ 5,492 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Is there some freaking trend going on with almost being killed by the woman you love to death!?!??! 16 Link to post Share on other sites
atgirlina 7,947 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, qwenli said: i may want to stop watching this drama. good night all. @qwenli thank you for the recap, thank you for recapping till the end. wasn't easy to read it, must've been harder to continue typing. really appreciate it i am with you. i usually stayed up all night till the subbed version is out to watch it, but not gonna do that tonight. i might skipped watching it all together. IU just like hae so is baffling. what so fun about ep 12 (previously ep 11). 1 year jump and she hangs on to the empty promises still? how many times wook have to turn his back on her for her to get her senses back? the first thing so did after arriving back, was offered her a way out, she can divorce him after, no worries. so only left and agreed to the task to get the king to pardon her. it was all for her. he openly said he missed her, with wook, she had to ask many times before he said it. arrggghhhhhhhhhhh i am so mad. LJK/Wang So is the main LEAD seriouslyyyyyyyyyyy. i am guessing in ep 13 soo broke it off with wook. then at least another ep before soo warm up to so, that's ep 15 we see so and soo together, then with all the political problems with baek ah, yo, wook, marying yeon hwa, other problems. they gonna crammed all that in the last 5 eps? they were worried about low ratings in SK, they should worry more the international fans start abandoning the drama Edited October 3, 2016 by ratgirlina 15 Link to post Share on other sites
winwin12 85 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 this episode is so irritating. somehow the progress is too slow, and im kinda bored to watch ._. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post briseis 124,834 Posted October 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2016 A truly gorgeous fanart to tide us over until this period of misery edns and SoSoo will ebcome lvoers in every sense of the word source: twitter, as labeled 30 Link to post Share on other sites
dramu51ch0c10ve 9,128 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, freshmilk196 said: seems like hye soo needs to lose wang so to know how important he is I thought 1 year of not seeing WangSo will make her realize his importance to her...I guess 1 year wasn't enough... 12 Link to post Share on other sites
bebebisous33 119,699 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, chi13lou said: The king and JM can actually use HS to make sure WS stays and goes for the throne. And I believe that's happening in the next episode. From my point of view, Yoo and Yo decided to kill the king by poisoning. I have the impression that the king knew that something would happen to him. He has Hae Soo next to him and as such, she is witnessing what is happening so that she goes to WW and WS and asks for their help isnce she has a strong sense of justice. But WW knew about it and asks her not to do anything. He wants Yo to kill Taejo so that Wang Wook can appear as the savior by arresting Yo. But Hae Soo informs Wang So as well and he is afraid of what could happen to Hae Soo therefore he stops Wang Wook. But I have come to realise that if Hae Soo thinks that she shouldn't change anything (History), then this would mean that she could play a role to persuade Wang So to marry Yeon Hwa. If the writer has this in mind, imagine the pain... Hae Soo knows that she can't marry Wang So and she has to give him to Yeon Hwa. 14 Link to post Share on other sites
itzibitzispider 19,126 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 36 minutes ago, lyserose said: Hi everyone. I am new here. Been lurking here for a while but never had the courage to sign up and post a comment until now. Been a die-hard fan of this drama and smitten with our main lead, Lee Joon Gi since Scholar Who Walks The Night. I really do enjoy reading so many postings here and hope to share some opinion with you guys in the future. We love new victims .... yum Welcome 13 Link to post Share on other sites
iamlatika 6,521 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 after watching ep12 i kinda feel that this drama really depicts from the Goryeo History.... thinking that for the next episode we won't be able to see more of sweet moments from our OTP's, they really focus about the fight for the throne... well that's how history goes... i've been a Sageuk Fan so this kind of scenario is nothing to be surprise... we just have to be prepared for the bloody fight and those people who will be sacrifice in the future.... huhuhu i'm starting to cry a river 14 Link to post Share on other sites
SizzlerZ 5,492 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 49 minutes ago, lavendre said: Hae Soo and Wook definitely deserved each other. They have to be the true OTP of this drama. An emotional true love story where the female lead has unconditional love and unrelenting understanding for her man even though he has abandoned and forsook her a few times. How 'touching'! Wang So should just marry Yeon Hwa. She is intelligent (good trait for a queen) and is devoted to him (which I m sure she will be when he becomes King). Couldn't have said it any better. The two are just made die each other. Like why is Wang So even in the show. I'm losing patience but I'm going to continue watching. I think the whole - 'the journey will be sad but ending will be happy' - thing has definitely kicked in. Come on SO-SOO!! RISE MY HOPES TOMORROW SO I CAN BE ON CLOUD NINE AND HOPEFULLY GET THROUGH THE WEEK! 11 Link to post Share on other sites
penelop3 17,036 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) 41 minutes ago, MadraRua said: Ummm... how to say this... Relax folks... no need to get all huffy... IT WILL HAPPEN Just take a breather and reassess the situation with subtitles... We still have tomorrow's episode. I too am a little frustrated with Hae Soo but she's not perfect so I'll cut her a break. Have no fear... she will get there eventually. P.s For anyone who wants off the roll call please let me know, I'd hate to start annoying anyone. @MadraRua Hahahaha.. this is too funny! Instant mood lifter! Edited October 3, 2016 by LyraYoo please do not quote images 8 Link to post Share on other sites
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