nikiazia 22,266 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 29 minutes ago, qwenli said: All I want to say to Wang So is, forget about Haesoo. Please marry Yeonhwa, at least she loved you all her life. She is not kind, but she is pretty, intelligent and of good status. Even when Yo put that 2 carat ruby on her finger, she still thinks of you. She will be good to you. All hail queen daemok! WS will marry YH ... she's Queen Daemok. writernim can't change the history 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post smitten1710 1,178 Posted October 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2016 Soo still rejects So because she's traumatized by everything that has happened : Lady Oh hanging for saving her, the killing committed by WangSo that HaeSoo saw in her vision of the future and she doesn't want to change history. She knows she's not supposed to be there, she's from another century. It's not only because Su can't forget her love for Wook, it's that and many other reasons. And she also doesn't want So to be in danger or to be driven toward being the ruthless and brother-killer Gwangjo that she read in history book. The kissing scene under the tree, the furtive kiss (we have forced kiss and now furtive kiss ) between So and Soo. Oh how I love that! WangSo being playful. And he asked Soo how's your heartbreak? (if the subtitle by S One channel is correct). Because he knows Soo is heartbroken by Wook action of leaving her in the rain when she was kneeling asking for the King's pardon for Lady Oh. WangSo knows HaeSoo's love for Wook. He's so tender and understanding. Wook on the other hand.... He pretend not to care for Soo in front of Jung. Instead he came to visit her at night when nobody's around. And he still has the nerve to tell Soo, "Don't get ill, don't make me suffer more than I have already" WHAAAAATTT??? And Wook blaming So for what has happened to Soo, well you all have already comment about that a lot. And the King suspected that HaeSoo is from the future like JiMong. I wonder what he says to HaeSoo when he said, "I regard you as my daughter like Lady Oh did, so I'm going to tell you something..." And he had prepared WangSo to be king in the future, is it because JiMong told him or because the king has seen that WangSo has the talent to be king? Ah! don't forget YeonHwa suddenly asking WangSo to marry her for the pretense of "because as a woman I love you". She did that only because she doesn't want to be that evil prince with eyeliner (is it Yo? I forget his name) woman just to seal the contract between her brother Wook and Yo/Evil Queen. I'm worry that WangSo believe her words even only for a few minutes out of his desire to be loved The scene between So and Soo during airing the laundry. So touched her arms, felt her hand, I bet he's noticing how thin she has become and she's walking with a limp now. The look of deep concern on So's face. And another refusal from HaeSoo. This episode made me cry! I can't wait for 13th ep. tomorrow 25 Link to post Share on other sites
bebebisous33 119,699 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, liddi said: @bebebisous33 I don't quite agree in that sense. Soo continued to hold out hope for Wook to save her during those crucial moments when her life was at stake, but it took his action of turning his back on her at the point when she needed him most, to turn the dynamics of their relationship. She did not choose - he chose for her in that instant. In many ways, Soo is seen to be reactionary so far. Ruoxi knew what she was asking of 8th Prince when she gave him the ultimatum, and he did not choose the throne over her, but rather he could not see why he can't have both. With his decision, she then chose to break off their relationship, because she knew what his fate would be with that choice. It was likewise with her relationship with 4th Prince... and ultimately she chose to leave him and the Forbidden City. @chickenchopflipflop My fears are very real with the very little time we have left to cover all that remains. I love what we have seen so far - it is breathtaking visually, and the narrative flow has gone from strength to strength. Hence I am really unwilling to see it falter in the next half, due to lack of time. I am trying to remind myself that being a pre-produced drama, the narrative pace should have been well thought out, so I am hoping all my fears to be unfounded. Prove my fears wrong, MLSHR! You can do it! But that's the same in the novel. 8th prince was the one who had to chose and had the final decision, since she put him in front of the alternative. Sure, the conditions are here different: Hae Soo is a victim, yet he was the one who told her, he would rescue her. So she placed her fate into his hands. But he chose. I watched the SBS version live and I was surprised with WW and HS meeting during the night. I was a little upset that she kept saying that she missed him. However, I was wondering if she was not saying it in order to calm the 8th prince... because so far, he has always been her priority. I do think, she has distanced herself from him but by saying such words, maybe she was expressing her wish, to hear these words from him. However, I noticed Wang Wook never said it: he only answered every minute, every seconde! But that's not the same. 18 Link to post Share on other sites
chickenchopflipflop 1,535 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, fengari said: I almost share the feeling- but I am still for So-Soo. I think that the problem is that though WS and HS are writen geniously as entirely different characters than their homologues characters of the chinese SH, they are trapped/bound to follow the tragic story line. I cannot explain otherwise the so-out-of-character behavior of HS (e.g: though she is resourceful and resilient, an attribute that WS recognised/sensed very early, when she starts to have the visions, instead to do what she usually does she runs here and there like an opera-heroine with void, blanc gaze mumbling half sentences with no sense). Anyway, my point is that I get angry when i think that such a geniously writen character like WS (there is consistency in the way it is built and performed,) has to suffer, and be wasted, because the poor heroine HS has to fullfil the tragic fate of the c- SH. ps: and indeed Yeonhwa, is a very interesting character and she loves (no matter what the reason is) genuinely WS. Besides,already when WS was a scarface pariah, she was interesting in him.This shows something about her intriguing character. I won't be surprised that in the end HS might have to fight with YH for WS's love. I think once WS becomes the king YH will be 100% devoted to him, honestly if the storyline is moving towards a game of thrones, then YH is the most useful character. to WS, i think she will fight fiercely for him after getting having her ambitions stomped on by lesser men such as WW and WY. My prediction is that HS will slowly become irrelevant as the story goes on and realises her ultimate role as a silent observer and nothing more....of course she and WS might share an intense love, but that relationship is to be consummated in another time, not now (in Goryeo) 11 Link to post Share on other sites
Lyna 5,297 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Reading the recapp breaks my heart! Darn that misleading preview from last week. I spend entire weekend excited over new development for So and Soo to get Soo rejection of So lasting love. Grrrr! Why are you doing this to me! I will try to look at it in a better light (for now since I have no fully watch the episode - currently at work and have to wait for sub). But I will look at Soo rejection as her way of not wanting So to suffer for her since he had suffer for her multiple times and Lady Oh death has hit her hard. I mean she knows So will do anything to protect her and him being sent away, she may feel as it is her fault for his punishment. I will just look at it as her conversation with So in the prison. That she feel she doesn't deserve him and in sense, she's afraid. As she mention in the prison, she's afraid that her feeling is shifting towards him therefore she's asking Wook if he misses her, it's a way to keep her feeling grounded to him. It's her way of denial that her feelings are changing. Yeah, I'm going to go with that excuse for now to keep myself sane from throwing something at my computer over Soo action. P.S. It's okay So! If Soo doesn't want you, I want you! *fanfiction, here I come!* And thank goodness I'm not the only one thinking LJK voice is sexy. I swear I could listen to that man voice day and night even if I don't understand Korean. I would just have keep talking non-stop and swooning at it. LOL! 16 Link to post Share on other sites
LoveSG 26,717 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, cmoirae2 said: IKR - if she accepts So, throne will be up for grabs, Wooks can have it, So gets the girl and everybody's happy ... but we know in kdramaland that is not the case ... we should anticipate more tension and conflict in the next 7 episodes ... Now I have no idea how the writer gonna develop the SoHae loveline... they wrote the script beforehand and filmed everything long time ago. Their script and character development should have been perfect! Many people are getting impatient with the loveline but I will just seat back and watch the show. Towards the end, you may have a different idea as to how they had developed the characters and plot. Soo still believed in Wook because she does not think he has changed. He missed her just like how she had missed him. She fails to acknowledge how incompetent he had been as pointed out by So. She refuses to believe that Wook would abandon her and there's must be a reason for his turning back. That delusion will be broken once she realises that Wook had changed, no longer whom she think he is and really ambitious for power. To me, Wook is no longer fighting for his family to get the power but perhaps to only prove to Soo how competent he is? Note the sarcasm. 11 Link to post Share on other sites
myramalie 1,034 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 most of us would like to smack hae soo to some common sense... but u know she has been a total fool when it comes to the love department.. she repeating the same mistake again...once a fool always a fool. She has been rather mean to So but i guess due to fear... fear to the unknown feeling that she might feel for him, fear that bad things happen when he is around, fear that one action taken lead to bad consequences. cant blame the girl she been through a lot. unpleasant things happen when So's around compared to when things are with wook...plp keep saying she's bad luck, she may feel staying away maybe another way of protecting him ... i just feel that this episode kinda lack some depth in it.. maybe bcos of the time jump...need to rewatch 10 Link to post Share on other sites
SizzlerZ 5,492 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 8 minutes ago, snowglobe147 said: Episode 13 Video Preview Translation: WY: The only person that knows of (*something*) is that girl, find her, quickly! YH: I'm not sure what your real thoughts are. WW: It's deciding the ordet. Trying to see who would be more strategetic to kill first. WW: Because there can't be a single mistake on the way to the throne. WW: Why did you hide the truth from me? HS: You've changed. WW: I will become the next king. WS: I will become the next king. End. THEY DID IT AGAIN! THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO SHOW SCENES IN PREVIEWS THAT AREN'T FROM THE NEXT EPISODE! 15 Link to post Share on other sites
fragglerock 5,300 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I understand that love is sometimes blind but does it really have to be that blatently stupid, this drama is frustrating to say the least. She was in soaking kneeling in pooring rain and saw WW walk up to her but then turn around and walk away, sure she was shattered, but of all things yet again WS stood by and protected her and was there for her. I appreciate she is struggling with her emotions around him, but they have made her character colder than the enemy in that she has no compassion or very little compassion for WS. So let me guess the aim of the last part of the drama is to tease us endlessly of the will they and wont they part, then finally we are about to get the they will part and zap she goes back to there own time zone again he thinks she has disappeared or dead and then we get the lust long ending like in the other version. This drama was only salvagable if she showed any kind of respect for him or compassion, she doesnt. At least the evil characters are transparent with there intentions. Sorry for those HS lovers or sympathisers with her but she has got well past irritating for me now. 18 Link to post Share on other sites
lilac_alex 1,017 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, fathiayunia said: I think for now I'm just gonna ship Wang So and his mask... and his BB Cream... and his horse... and his smile... and his sexy voice... and his vogue wardrobe... Yup. I'm gonna ship that while waiting for Hae Soo to come to her senses. Lols i will be your first mate? I am hanging on until my OTP fully sails. It appears that the writers are prolonging the main characters consensual pairing. They could just have them separated for the meantime. I mean I am semi fine with the rejected proposal for now but they should have opted out with Haesoo's lingering feelings/ties with Wook. Its too frustrating to the viewers, like the main lead seems to be the one interfering with an unbreakable love. But back to Wang So, my only two faves off tonight's ep is WS cheeky smile and face reveal after taking off his mask. 18 Link to post Share on other sites
syeramy 4,912 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, Putri Dewi said: i wonder since when King and JM knows about it... they at least should tell the viewer Before the rain ritual, I guess. Because the 'heaven choice' is a fishy statement. 8 Link to post Share on other sites
kuanphing 286 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, SizzlerZ said: AM I THE ONLY ONE DISAPPOINTED GOING INSANE BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT HS AND WS MET ONLY FREAKING 3 TIMES IN THE WHOLE EPISODE AND 3 TIMES REJECTION 16 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post qwenli 62,602 Posted October 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, hanatanada said: I feel like you'all are misunderstanding haesoo big time lol If you'all pay attention to her lines and her expressions she clearly already likes wangso. when he came back and hugged her she was really touched and you can see the pain in her eyes, she was also worried for him first and told him to stay away from her because she is of no status to be with him. She is also really depressed and she just wants to stay away from the princes for her and their sake. Also, when he proposed, when he just said that he wants to marry her, she was clearly touched and moved, but after he said it was so that she can leave the place she rejected him and said she cannot marry him just for the sake of leaving the gyobang. Plus, the way she looks at wangwook is now different, she clearly doesn't love him anymore. She asked him did he even miss her for one moment, it was clearly out of spite and she said thats enough for her, its clear that she no longer wants any relationship with him anymore. Lastly, I believe the reason why wangwook is so eager to get the throne now is also partly because of haesoo, his feelings for her were real lol he pretends to not be hurt and pretends to not care when he saw her limping or when he saw her suffering when washing the clothes but there is clearly sadness in his eyes. He knows he cannot do anything for her thats why he is even more thirsty for the throne and starts scheming because he knows that that is the only way he can save haesoo. Did u watch it with subs? Yes I saw wat you said about hs feels for WS. So even tho she said all the like one whole page of nasty things to him wasn't the fatal blow to me. The fatal blow was wat she said to wook. She clearly still loves wook. U guys who hang around much will know that I dun hate wook that much but even then, I was nauseous of the depth of hs love for Wook. Thanks alot hs, you deserve wook, you really do. Am so angry now. 28 Link to post Share on other sites
honeyapricot 333 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Is it just me or the relationship between Baek Ah and Woo Hee is so damn fast? I mean, they just met like few times and now he is willing to get stabbed for her??This drama is so trying to develop so many pairings, and beginning to be unconvincing T___T Also, that scene between Eun and his wife (don't get me wrong, they are cute together) is so out of blue shown, and taking the screen time we need for development of main relationship who seems like do not move anywhere... How many times So is rejected today? I cant even count!!! Why is Hae Soo so forgiving toward Wook but not toward So? I wonder how this will be redeemed in next episodes. *disappointed here* 14 Link to post Share on other sites
gwiyeowooh 896 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Hae Soo asking Wang Wook "did you miss me?" My eyes rolled up to my forehead down to my toes 300 times. What else does Wang So need to do for Hae Soo to acknowledge him???? The thing is since this is an adaptation and with all the poster of OTP, character description and story overview, everyone knows that this IS SUPPOSED TO BE an EPIC LOVE STORY about Wang So and Hae Soo. Why drag it up to ep 12 and make Wang So chase Hae Soo who is still in love with Wang Wook. The writer should just have made Hae Soo shut up when Wang Wook visit her and not answer Wang So when he asked her for marriage. Why make Our Wang So pitiful. This drama is tiring me. The episode tomorrow better make up for this, if she still chase Wang Wook around and not acknowledge Wang So. I'll sue them. I'll sue SBS, the director, the writer and the actors on this drama for FALSE ADVERSTING.... Haha. Aigoo my heart. 22 Link to post Share on other sites
innrukia 4,718 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I love how HS character been portrayed.... Strong female lead character. She make mistake, she stupidly love someone who is not worth to love & in denial to someone who genuinely love her. She fall for WS already but she sooo in denial . I love the moment she yelled to WS. At least she can throw out all the things that she keep to herself after the incident. I'm pretty sure, she has not share it with someone else as she always pretend to be strong headed. But with WS she able to say it out loud. Can't wait for tomorrowwww..... 17 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post MoOnLoVeRz 48,670 Posted October 3, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2016 the trio bros! 48 Link to post Share on other sites
Kasmic 72,718 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 9 minutes ago, snowglobe147 said: Episode 13 Video Preview Translation: WY: The only person that knows of (*something*) is that girl, find her, quickly! YH: I'm not sure what your real thoughts are. WW: It's deciding the ordet. Trying to see who would be more strategetic to kill first. WW: Because there can't be a single mistake on the way to the throne. WW: Why did you hide the truth from me? HS: You've changed. WW: I will become the next king. WS: I will become the next king. End. Thanks for the translations @snowglobe147 I think both previews are the same right?? as this one here is the international versionand the one above is from SBS 18 Link to post Share on other sites
edensor 28,744 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, Nindia Putri said: sigh.. This drama is getting more heartbreaking and depressing like uncontrollably fond. I think i will stop to watch it. LOL This drama is intent to be heartbreaking from the first place. Need mentally prepared to watch this lol 14 Link to post Share on other sites
feignedreality 2,011 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, briseis said: Moon Lovers - Quick (UNINTELLIGIBLE) thoughts after watching episode 12 First of all, I’M NOT OK!!! EVERYTHING HURTS AND NOTHING IS OK! I still haven’t even started to process what I’ve just witnessed. Each episode of this show is like a concentrated dose of pain and torment, which I consume against my better judgement and self-preservation instinct. It’s not even about BA because from the long preview it’s clear he will live. Show, I tried to be understanding and use logic, but seriously HAE SOO’S DELUSIONAL FIXATION WITH WOOK SHOULD HAVE ENDED 2 EPISODES AGO AND EVEN THEN IT WOULD BE ALMOST TOO LATE! She clearly has strong feelings for So, much more profound and deeper than her infatuation with Wook, but is denying them to the point of obnoxiousness. Something really needs to change BECAUSE AT THIS POINT SHE DOES NOT DESERVE WANG SO! HONESTLY, NO ONE DOES. YES to everything!!! 12 Link to post Share on other sites
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