Adnana Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I apologize for the bother, but may I please ask one of our resident Korean speakers to translate one line for me, from E6? It's a SBS version-exclusive, in the scene where WS chokes Ji Mong (for an alternative to HS marrying the king). It's at the 37:19 mark. WS starts by asking cynically (while choking Ji Mong), "An honor?" and continues, "It's a forced marriage with a man who has forsaken his father!" <--- This line doesn't make much sense to me. The King has forsaken his father?? I was guessing maybe the line should be about the King being old enough to be HS's father, but I don't know, and the translation in the darksmurfsub is even worse ("A forced wedding with a man who dumped a dad?"), so I'm asking for help. @ruizaio or @wordsmyth0253 Maybe you can translate the line when you have time? Thank you so much, and again, sorry for the bother. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabi Bros Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 What is this? 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post meahri_1 Posted October 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2016 4 hours ago, SizzlerZ said: Episode 14 is the furthest they can take this because after that it just doesn't seem right... Am I right in saying so? I might be saying this because I'm a hard WS-HS shipper - If I had it my way I would ship them from 2nd episode saying they fell in love at first sight. But frankly their love blossoming in episode 15 for example sounds too out of place for me. Am I the only one that thinks so? @SizzlerZ Chingu, I think Haesoo realizing how much Wangso means to her may happen sooner than we think. @MadraRua Dearest, forgive me. Need to borrow the gif you use in your siggy. I've been wanting to point this out for the last few days now. In the scene when Wangso finally returns from his assignment and he immediately seeks out Haesoo (this is where he tells her he misses her and he proposes they get married), NOTE Haesoo is crying. WHY? She might not say it here, but we know ultimately that her answer to So's proposal will be no. In the scene, she's lost in thought when he finds her. Was she thinking about Lady Oh, Wook, missing her prior life...or perhaps Wangso? Regardless of where her thoughts had led her, Wangso's sudden presence brings tears to her eyes. Why would that be the case? Does he remind her of everything that she's lost? I very much doubt that as Wook deserves to bear that distinction rather than Wangso. What she's had so much time to think about, however, besides Lady Oh's sacrifice and Wook's betrayal, is the sacrifice Wangso willingly made for her. At first she'll probably be successful at blocking everything from her mind, but eventually from morning till nightfall as she's washing the dirt out of the clothing given to her, all the unbidden thoughts will flood her mind: You said you wanted to leave the palace and live happily with me. HE willingly drank poison to cast suspicion from me so that I could live. I was about to be put to death and I thought for sure you'd be there but you never came. HE arrived and wouldn't allow anyone to touch me. You told me you loved me, but you turned your back and walked away. HE came, stood my by side and gave me strength when I had none. She KNOWS now all the words Wook had said to her are more like sand and fog...perhaps visible to the eye, but forever yielding to the harder things they come up against. And HE, even though she said he scared her, was the one who stood by her side and never walked away until he was forced to go. But unlike the other who made so many promises, HE came back, just as he said he would. Her boyfriend had thrown her away, as did the friend that took him from her. And when push came to shove, Wook abandoned her as well, first leaving her to die on her own, and then choosing to walk away when she was at her weakest and most desperate state. What words or actions can fix something like that? Do you really think anything he would say now could ever erase these failures?? Haesoo may have originally been naive, but don't make the mistake of thinking our girl is that stupid. All these things hurt her, and they're supposed to hurt. Let her do her grieving and be done with it. She knows now who really cares for her. Don't forget her words to So while she was imprisoned where she said he was making it hard for her to turn away from him. And don't forget the obvious scenes that are coming up -- Haesoo returning her bracelet to Wook and he crying for her in despair. IT. WILL. HAPPEN. 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taehumama Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 7 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said: What is this? Since that episode, I was wondering too... 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shiraru Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 Some fanart again~ I found these on instagram and it seems that all of them are repost. If you find the original source, please let me know so I can credit them properly. 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleloony Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 @briseis Loved your Inu yasha post Before ep 10, it reminded me a lot of Inu Yasha, specially how IY always looks out for Kagome and he just cannot help but care for her and their bickering too Post ep 11 SHR reminds me of Inu Yasha in a different way. In my mind the characters have reversed and I kind of see Hae Su as that part of Inu Yasha who try as he might could not forget Kikyo and the said Kikyo here being Wang Wook who though had loved Inu Yasha but later did all sorts of things to destroy him and his friends, and our Wang So relegated to the role of poor Kagome whose heart is hurt every time Inu Yasha can't shake off feeling for Kikyo Btw, all your posts are soo full of heart and amazingly worded I love them. Thanks for taking the time to give us these wonderful commentaries. The grand romance that I don't fully feel from Su and So's scenes at this point in time I feel from your posts.....when I look at them, its still a one sided one that I hope for the sake of our longing hearts will change soon enough. Lastly, I think the problem is that since we know the episode count is so short and time is ticking away our impatience to get that epic romantic feel between So and Su that we have built up in our expectations is making us frustrated Relax some more dear eclipses....I feel you.....but maybe lowering our expectations on this front at this point is probably good for our sanity so that when we do get to the epic part we really enjoy it even if its for one episode (hope not ). 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveSG Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 1 hour ago, MadraRua said: I found this opinion on Wang Wook vs Wang So and enjoyed it so thought I'd share with my fellow eclipses here.... Cr: kang-chuls wook versus so: an Opinion ok lol I lied here is the real #review. as I understand it I’m late to the party but you’ll have to bear with me while I type up my impressions of the whole Wook vs So debacle. let me preface this by saying that I do not sympathize with either of these characters, I am Team Soo all the way, but I’m interested in viewing them both through an objective lens, with my primary concern being developing character arcs and how they relate to major themes in this show. so I saw someone ask in the tag if Wook had been this way all along or if he had changed somehow. well, personally, in the middle of the scene with Yeon Hwa I found myself recalling an earlier time when he was discussing killing with Soo. what rattled me a little at the time was when Wook said he had no regrets and no nightmares when he first killed someone at the age of eleven, because it was to protect his family. this is especially significant in light of Soo’s statement “he won’t change,” which seems a little eerie in hindsight. because you realize Wook really hasn’t changed. people say So doesn’t blink when he kills, but it’s honestly so much scarier with Wook because he genuinely does not have a moral issue with it. Wook’s morals exist along different lines than So’s do; they aren’t universal, they’re situational. add this to the fact that Wook has always been a fundamentally selfish character and his change of heart is much less than surprising. even his care for Soo is established on quite shaky grounds, more shaky than Soo herself can imagine because she is the opposite of Wook in this regard. to begin with, as he states to Lady Hae, he is drawn to Hae Soo because she is an unselfish person who keeps saying she doesn’t want to hold him back. following this initial attraction, his relationship with her is based around his own emotions regarding Lady Hae’s death, and these emotions become so intertwined that he doesn’t even seem to distinguish his feelings of “love” for Soo from his feelings of guilt over his dead wife. but Wook is weak-willed and unsure, he’s constantly vacillating and once a better chance presents itself he abandons his current occupation (freeing Soo) to turn his attention to his own family, who he’s always protected before. he can’t contemplate abandoning them. he was never as truly committed to Soo as he was to these two other causes: his family and his own interests - though his guilt remains, and no doubt we’ll see him wallow in it a good bit more as the plot progresses, it’s never been enough to stop him from losing more of his humanity. Wook has never been a cruel character, never purposefully conniving or intentionally harmful. his commitment to his own skin has never seemed overt before now, because he really wants to be a decent guy, if only so he won’t have to feel bad. but for all of his qualms, he’s never held back. when the moment comes to choose, he chooses what’s best for Wang Wook every time. So says “he won’t change.” well, in a way, she’s right. he’ll still kill for his family, but most of all for himself, because he doesn’t want to feel guilty for not having stood by them. he’s driven primarily by guilt, haunted by it, and it will be what eventually destroys him in the end. as far as general morality goes, Moon Lovers’ morality is based around its message, which concerns action vs inaction. inaction is shown to be the true evil in this show: if you do nothing and allow bad things to happen to others while you cower in on yourself, you’re either one of the bad guys already or you’re heading that direction (or you’re the king. in which case you die next episode, presumably). Wook exemplifies inaction by refusing to take risks for what he cares about, then agonizing over it later. he won’t tell Lady Hae he loves her, he won’t risk his own neck to free Soo, and he won’t stand up for Soo once she’s accused if it means throwing his own family and himself under the bus. action, on the other hand, is favored even if it’s risky action. in this regard, Soo embodies this philosophy more than any other character. she jumps into the lake after the child, she stands up for Chae Ryung, she leaps to Jung’s rescue when he’s held up by bandits, she scars her own arm so she can’t be married to the king, she kneels in protest of Court Lady Oh’s death - and these are just the major ones I can think of so far. basically this girl is hardcore. not to mention the show’s other “good guys,” like Lady Oh herself, Lady Hae, Chae Ryung, and the princes who are actually decent, all of whom more or less spring into action when the moment demands it, despite their personal struggles. but this brings me to my next point: is Wang So “good” or not? the big debate tends to be about whether or not his actions are excusable, but I’m not particularly interested in that question because in the end, your answer for this one depends on your own personal opinions and experiences. which are very relevant, but not to an overall discussion. we all use different measures when we judge a character, and my personal ethics and everyone else’s are utterly irrelevant towards what the show is trying to establish. what’s relevant is that the show is setting him up as a force for good at the present moment, because So acts. every time. he’s a bit of a chaotic force in this regard, as he doesn’t always act rightly or on the side of the “good guys,” which we recognize from the first episode. he himself gives the analogy that best suits him, and it’s one I like and will be using from here on out: it’s not whether the sword is well forged or not, it’s how you wield it. So doesn’t always know what’s ok to do and what isn’t, but he always thinks he does because he can’t act without believing what he does is right. this is the reason he can kill without blinking, because he believes he’s doing the right thing in each of these situations. (and when he doesn’t, he can always justify it in retrospect and promise not to do it again, right?) I’m not saying this is the best way to live. in fact, as far as I’m concerned, it’s downright stupid, but that’s a personal opinion and therefore irrelevant to what I’m trying to say here. anyhow what I’m saying is that the relevant standard to judge So by is the show’s standard, and that’s whether or not he takes action to protect what’s important to him. what’s important to So from the beginning is love, belonging, acceptance. in the end he doesn’t care so much about possessing these things as being engulfed by them, being surrounded by people he trusts and unconditionally accepted. he’s so desperate for these things that he’s willing to go to any lengths to have them, even killing, threatening, resorting to violence and taking what’s denied him instead of waiting for it to be offered. slowly, though, he’s learning that the way to these things is not to seize them for himself through violent means, the way he does in episode 9/10, but to protect them as best as he can and wait for the rest. this doesn’t mean he’s not going to slip up again or that he no longer is trying to force this stuff, just that he’s growing as a character and he still has flaws in the way he’s wielded. he doesn’t have that perfect, just standard yet. he may get there and he may not, we’ll have to wait and see. as yet, I don’t particularly ship So with Soo, because what I want primarily for Soo is peace and the ability to live without being controlled while protecting those she loves and helping them live to the fullest. this may involve So or it may not, depending on the direction he goes from here. but what I really want to drive home at present is the fact that we don’t need to justify So’s mistakes and we don’t need to demonize Wook. rather, they are both complicated, morally ambiguous characters who can be read through any number of lenses, but what’s actually relevant here is the direction they’re both headed in with regards to the show’s morality. at the moment, Wook has chosen to sit on the sidelines and watch as Soo’s injustice unfolds, while So has symbolically chosen to stand with her no matter the personal cost. this is what sets them up on their respective sides of the line, which is still being drawn as we speak, and what will ultimately determine both of their stories from this point forward. Really in-depth character analysis Good! All of the charatcers in SHR, whether good or evil, they have their own moral compass that dictates their actions. Their past also moulds their present and shapes their beliefs, behaviour and character. They are rightly justified in their own ways - no matter how we may see it as right or wrong. The SHR characters are all quite grayish, not without their reasons to do what they are doing. People may hate Yeonhwa but I would rather blame that to her childhood, when the family was pushed to the sidelines and they had to rely on Wang Wook's political marriage to get them back into the capital. I would say like her brother, Yeonhwa is insecure in her family standing and she wants power to avoid falling into bad times like before... She has no qualms using her brother or even So, as long as she gets what she wants - the end justifies the means. Like her brother, I feel sorry for her too. Their past may have made them weak to withstand pressure and to avoid that would be to avoid doing what is hard to do. They always choose the easy way out. 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valsava Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I'm loving all the fanart you guy's are finding on LJk 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churasan Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 1 hour ago, larinalove said: Look gals, it could be anything, HS could be saying those words in a different context, we'll have to wait tomorrow to see it and also we are not angry or upset that we still have not seen the romance between WS-HS begin properly, we are upset that if the case will be she says those words to Wook while still hoping something or still clinging that's what bothering us, maybe it will play out differently, I sure hope it will because HS has to open her eyes already. I don't expect her to be head over heals for WS the next episode, I know that won't happen but at least I want closure between WW and HS because any more of it is just too much to bear. I agree that it could be out of context - I mean how many times in the past did the preview troll me and the sound bytes were matched up with completely different scenes? For me, I think the whole WS and HS relationship is like a double-edged sword. Either way HS's character gets the shorter end of the stick. Let's say our dreams come true and HS accepts WS sooner rather than later. They'll have some happy times, but in the end, we all know WS is going to marry YH. Then, she'll be left behind for a THIRD time! Of course, we know WS will always care for her... but again she'll never really have the kind of happiness she wants. On top of that, she KNOWS he will become king and there may be a possibility about what Lady Oh warned her about (men become cowards when the throne is at hand). She had hard core proof of that with Wook. But, if she falls in that same vicious cycle again, it'll look like she didn't learn her lesson the first time.Now, let's take a 180 and think about it this way... Let's say that she does try to avoid WS (for awhile) and heeds Lady Oh's advice about not getting mixed up with royalty. It probably is the smarter move based on all that's happen in episode 11 and it shows she learned from her past mistakes; but of course, us viewers will criticize her as being blind as she can't see who truly loves her. Earlier, one of her tag lines are how she wished she and So could have met and loved in another time. I feel that possibly it is really expressing regret for something that couldn't happen. Maybe she loved WS, but never had a chance to fully express it to him because of Lady's Oh warning. HS could have loved him from afar for fear that if she was with him, she would cause more deaths. She already knows he would risk his life for her (poison incident) and go against the king's word. Therefore, if she confesses, it may endanger his life for she fears what he might do. For example, in the Cdrama "Singing All Along", the heroine told the soon-to-be-king to marry another woman because in the end it would save his life during war (he would get more power through that marriage). She'd rather have him be alive with another woman, than dead. So maybe HS never confesses her feelings to him in order to protect him. In the end, I could see her writing a very tearful letter revealing her true feelings for him (just like Ruoxi did before passed away). I'm hoping this doesn't happen though because the fan girl in me wants OTP moments... 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post ruizaio Posted October 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2016 35 minutes ago, Adnana said: I apologize for the bother, but may I please ask one of our resident Korean speakers to translate one line for me, from E6? It's a SBS version-exclusive, in the scene where WS chokes Ji Mong (for an alternative to HS marrying the king). It's at the 37:19 mark. WS starts by asking cynically (while choking Ji Mong), "An honor?" and continues, "It's a forced marriage with a man who has forsaken his father!" <--- This line doesn't make much sense to me. The King has forsaken his father?? I was guessing maybe the line should be about the King being old enough to be HS's father, but I don't know, and the translation in the darksmurfsub is even worse ("A forced wedding with a man who dumped a dad?"), so I'm asking for help. @ruizaio or @wordsmyth0253 Maybe you can translate the line when you have time? Thank you so much, and again, sorry for the bother. You're right. Wang So says, "Honor? She's being forced to marry a man old enough to be her father!" I also want to point out that what Wang So says to Ji Mong when it's decided that she'll be in Damiwon (~56:07)is more like "You managed to keep her in the palace, eh?" The verb he used is 주저앉히다 which is often used for frustrating someone's efforts, so I've seen other translations saying something about breaking her spirit, but in this case, it's more like "You made her squat down in the palace." Wang So knows that Ji Mong had a hand in keeping her around. 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyar7jizhenll Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 While waiting for tomorrow....tribute to WS-HS couple upcoming blooming romance (hopefully by ep 13) Spoiler Beautiful Lotus blooming under twilight!!! ~ symbolism of WS's deep, pure and possessive love awaiting HS's love in return~ (though not under Eclipse) 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umi_ni_Sora Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) I really wouldn't put much weight into that tweet. As someone said, the preview can be misleading. I would imagine the conversation being like this: Soo: "Did you miss me?" Wook: "I missed you everyday, but I cannot go against the King. Perhaps, it's better this way." (I thought I heard him say something like that in the preview) And he walks off, leaving Soo in tears. This is double the betrayal and double the pain. Soo said that Wook will not betray her as long as he doesn't aim for the throne, and this is a straight contradiction to her words with Lady Oh. It shows Wook chose the throne over her, breaking her dreams/illusions of him, and also giving her a reason for his actions - closure. It will lead her to believe that he never loved her as much as she loved him and then she can finally let him go. To be honest, it makes sense for Soo to reject So's proposal - she is not ready to let go of Wook yet because she's still trying to understand why things went the way they did. She did ask "Why?" during the rain scene." She placed her faith, dreams, and hopes in him. It's hard to accept and understand since it was so abrupt. Coupled with her loss of Lady Oh, which I'm sure she still feels responsible for. Yeah, girl needs time to heal. Yes, I believe her feelings are growing for So, but she can't accept him into her heart unless she finds closure with Wook. Bottom line is, we will see Soo accepting So in the later previews. They have a date coming up where she wears his hairpin (accepting him), and a mutual kiss. No doubt, the lines "If only we met in a different time and different place, how wonderful would it be?" are for him. Wook even sees her growing feelings for So, which makes him feel more insecure and hungrier for the throne. Because of that, he will distance himself further from Soo. So and Soo's love is slow burning, but it will be stronger than anything Wook and Soo had. The petty side of me said, "Aaha, at least Wook never got to kiss Soo!" Our OTP is heading there, we just need a little more patience. Edited October 2, 2016 by SC Mel 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adnana Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, ruizaio said: You're right. Wang So says, "Honor? She's being forced to marry a man old enough to be her father!" I also want to point out that what Wang So says to Ji Mong when it's decided that she'll be in Damiwon (~56:07)is more like "You managed to keep her in the palace, eh?" The verb he used is 주저앉히다 which is often used for frustrating someone's efforts, so I've seen other translations saying something about breaking her spirit, but in this case, it's more like "You made her squat down in the palace." Wang So knows that Ji Mong had a hand in keeping her around. Thank you. This was extremely helpful. We'll correct the subs. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenya22 Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 2 hours ago, chrissydiva said: I notice that people indeed watch shows with different perspective and interpretation. Maybe because people are so used to korean standards drama where most of the time, the female lead barely even notice the second male lead. So when they come across a show who breaks that mold, people who ships the OTP gets frustrated with the female lead because she's not moving at the pace they want cause her feelings be damned. I might still be influenced by the way American shows are written which portrays relationship a little more real than the bias views of kdramas though they have too many bed hopping for my taste sometimes. HS is just in no position to accept anybody right now seeing her current situation. She needs time to heal. People think nothing really happened between SoSoo and it won't make sense if she "suddenly" falls for him out of nowhere, then I disagree. Maybe people are focusing on the flaws of the show too much hence why ignoring what's given to them as signs. Soo is attracted to So not as a friend but as a man. It's been shown. Best example, the first makeup scene! Hello!!! Lol He pretty much confessed to her then in a So fashion that he definitely see her as woman and wanted her as such. She froze not knowing what to do. I'm pretty sure if it was Eun doing it, she would have kicked him because she just never saw him as a man. Then you see her reaction when he left the room, she was shaken not out of fear but because she knew that he affected her, her heart. Afterwards, she literally rushed to see the ritual and instead of at least looking at Wook once, we see her actively looking at So, her attention was on So. They even made a point to have Wook noticed it when he looked at her once he figured out that she was the one who helped him cover the scar. Then when So looked at her and smiled, she smiled back. Now, why would she? Shouldn't she feel uncomfortable about what he just told her? I questioned it more than her visions lol One of the reasons why I think those visions should have waited because it diverted the attention from what just happened few minutes earlier. So is definitely way ahead of her because he is pretty much a newbie at this. Soo is his first love, but he's not Soo's because she experienced relationship not once, but twice already and she was burned both times. To expect her to just jump in his arms when she barely even registered everything that happens is asking too much. I love So as the next person but not everything is about him and his pain lol This is definitely like the Stelena/Delena triangle. Elena hated Damon because well dude was actually killing people for kicks unlike So, so the hate was understandable lol Then they build this unconventional friendship when she started to look at him with different eyes . She was clearly attracted to him even though she was madly in love with Stefan. But the attraction was there so when she moved to from one brother to the other, it wasn't like the viewers thought it came out of nowhere. The only thing is that I didn't like what they used as the final catalyst to break Stelena up in order to move her to Damon so she didn't look like a two timer. At least, they did it better in ML, no need to turn Soo into a vampire lol. Anyway, my point is the romance between SoSoo has always been there and shown, is just that it's not the one people are used to get for the main couple. I still take their development over Wook/Soo any day. It feels more real to me. At least, Wook didn't get to kiss her like in Jealousy Incarnate lol @chrissydivaI was waiting for someone to say this since you expressed what I wanted to say better than I would have. Thank you. It happens in real life too, not just in dramas that one could be strongly attracted to another even while in commitment with someone. The question then becomes.... how strong is the commitment of both parties to their partnership? And it is true that one can't just jump from one relationship to another, however one must be brave to clarify ones mind, ones situation. In the case of this drama Hae Soo has to realize that it is not about the 2 men or any man vying for her but it is about her, what does she really want. One might say she is confused. In the surface she might but deep in her subconscious if she dives down there she will know the answer. It might not be right away since she has to go through a process of facing and clearing many painful revelations about herself and her relationships. But when she bravely confronts those ugly painful truths then she would be able to see clearly what is it that she really wants and make peace with it..... (fill in the blanks Soo) kekeke So what I really hope Soo will ask Wook is not the superficial "did you miss me" which will get her a superficial "i miss you all the time" ughhh.... But just like his sweet little sister YH confronted Wook about his ambition, Soo should ask the question she really wanted an answer to, which is..... "why did you abandon me?" Wook may hum and hoe and make excuses but anything he will say will confirm to HS what she already knows that he turned his back on her. 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanaqvi Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 tomorrow willbe hard at work, I only will come for recap I think preview is misleading. I can think basing of HS state of lip cure she will recover, then speak to WS in peckled kiss scene, then be thrown of palace, then WW talk to her, then time lap, then dont know what waiting is hard 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post meahri_1 Posted October 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2016 Okay...let's suspend the current topic for a moment because the YoYoo ship might be in peril. See the attached Tweet and note that the first picture features Park Ji Young, the actress who plays Queen Yoo. SEE WHAT SHE'S WEARING?? I think Queen Yoo will definitely be punished in the future. When and how??? Not sure, BUT...wanna bet that Yeon Hwa might have a hand in it?? @MadraRua That was a really awesome post, chingu. Loved your wook vs so perspective and agree with many of your points. 29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dustdevil Posted October 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2016 I have a really big work project that I should be doing, but instead, I decided to try and map out what I think is going to happen in the next 9 episodes.I would love to know what other people think, you can comment in the shared Google doc, now that I've got this going, I'll probably keep updating it. There's an image of the outline under the spoiler tags: Spoiler My main takeaways from trying to sort this all out: 1. I really don't think that King Hyejong's (current CP) reign is going to last for more than two episodes. There have already been 3 attempts on this life so far, so his luck will run out quickly. As people have noted, his reign is also our best bet for HS-WS happiness, so I'm guessing maybe 2-3 episodes max. 2. I think it's going to deviate from the Chinese version and the novel, and wrap things up pretty quickly after WS becomes Gwangjong. The momentum of this version is all built around WS fulfilling his destiny as the King, so I don't see more than one episode (maybe two) drawing out that time. The storyline so far has been fairly tight and quick-moving. I think they are going to cut the big time jumps for the shorter run time. 3. My new big theory is that YeonHwa is going to the be the mastermind who kills off Yo. It clears the way for WS to be king, YH to be queen, and is the perfect revenge on evil queen. Fingers crossed. 4. There's still lots of room to fill in the blanks for plot developments. I think the key is to keep HS looped into the major political plot points, and not just as WS's love. 5. I wonder how they'll deal with scheduling of the final, odd episode. Will they do 3 a week, like at the beginning? or have a 1 episode week in between. This whole time I've been curious if they originally edited it this way, or if some of the dramatic impact is lost because of the shift. For example, was it planned that episode 10 with So drinking the poison would be the cliffhanger that you'd have to wait a week to find out what happened next? But with the shift, that was resolved quickly. And if that's the case, that means that all of the even episodes have the really big dramatic beats. 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post briseis Posted October 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2016 The way I interpret the new stills released today is that King Taejo is dying; Wang So is at first begging him not to send HS away, then to pardon her, but his father is unyielding. ”Do you still have feelings for that girl?” - Taejo “She is not someone I can abandon.” - Wang So Therefore Wang So decides to forsake his father and gain power via putting his brother Moo on the throne: “In order to save Hae Soo’s life, Wang So forsook the old emperor and instated a new emperor in his place. Because he hates being pressured to forsake Hae Soo, he takes it upon himself to ascend the throne.” - Wang So’s character synopsis Which is probably this moment, considering it’s THAT scene from the long preview (there is the king on the bed and the two queens). He is throwing away his father who has never done anything for him, who can’t give him even the only woman he ever wanted so he can be happy. So WS to protect HS with his own power. Just look at the sheer determination on his face! 44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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