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5 hours ago, qwenli said:

@inner @frostbite

No where in my post did I say that alternative opinions are not tolerated here. Nobody has the right to say so anyway.

I guess perhaps for people who dun back read, the impact is different but when I back read and I see some repeated comments, it can accumulate to a point where I just have to say something.

I understand the people here are from different age, gender and cultural bacbackgrounds and so may have different perspectives.  

Anyway, in future I will just ignore posts that I disagree with to keep the peace here.

 

 

@enigmatic_zephy We have so many posts on this thread now that you probably missed seeing @qwenli 's post above.

For those of us who have parked here since months before the drama has aired, we’ve repeatedly stated that all POVs are welcome and that constructive criticism and the freedom to ship as desired is also encouraged. In keeping with Soompi rules and guidelines, only outright bashing of a character, cast member or the drama is prohibited.

The pace of the thread is so very quick now that sometimes numerous posts on one particular topic, such as the editing, can inadvertently turn into one long rant session and the overall mood of the community and the tone of the posts can get hung up, subsequently impacting the balance of the varying views that are being expressed.  So, in our efforts to maintain the overall health of the thread or to avoid misunderstandings within the community, you’ll find some of our longtime resident posters like @qwenli and Soompi moderators like @LyraYoo and @bebebisous33 trying to reboot, if you will, by providing guidance, or by momentarily changing or suggesting another topic to maintain the equilibrium and freedom we all enjoy here.

By the way, @qwenli is one of our few recappers during live streaming, so her participation in our thread is much appreciated and very much needed.  It’s very easy to take things out of context when communicating in this medium, so misunderstandings like this are not uncommon. Thankfully we’ve had very few.

So thus ends my MLSHR public service announcement for today. Let's continue on with all things MLSHR. :)

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Posting late as it's been a busy week haven't had a chance to read everyone's thoughts but I'm sure they are amazing as usual.  My thoughts on episode 9 were mostly focused on WS not his future but about the here and now.  Wondering what it would be like for him to feel that freedom without his mask.  Like a prisoner or bird being set free from a cage.  Forced to live behind a mask that stands out no matter where you go.  Not being accepted for who you are inside but for what they see on the outside.  Their fears cannot only be seen but felt as well and somewhere along the way WS decided to live up to their fears and creates the wolf.  Who allows him to release his anger but doesn't allow him to be himself...

As I watched him standing in the rain during the ritual standing with his arms open wide moving in circle to give thanks.  What feelings within were being released it's a moment I would have loved to have heard his own thoughts.  Just as in later hearing the King speaking to him not as a King but as his Father saying to him " Your Father Trusts You " but even more WS before that calling him FATHER...

Later when WS & HS are standing his hand in the rain and his smile larger than life basting in the glory of the day so full of happiness and wonder just like a child experiencing something for the first time.  His spirits flying so high soaring above the sky you could see it and you could feel it.  Yet HS's heart was somewhere much deeper and darker and her only thoughts were not in the moment but of others what an amazing character and thoughts " I Can Do It.  I Wont Ignore It.  I Won't Let Anyone Get Hurt. "  Even before that as if giving him instructions for living that were really silent pleas from the heart.  Her hoping he might remember her spoken words, that they might somehow linger into the future...

A pillow for WW"s head and a promise kept to a cousin.  HS proves she never forgets and can always be counted on.  This moment was different than the other brief moments for me.  Gifts exchanged, memories shared, an embrace even the words I love you yet why is it instead of a loving moment it felt like good-bye to me.  Felt like a sweet encounter between first loves who meant something to each other like a season in life but gave you the feeling it would all to soon be just a memory...

How quickly a beautiful moment in WS's life can be destroyed not by a stranger but from his own mother the Queen of EVIL just when I think I have seen her worst she proves me wrong.  What's even harder to believe is after all WS has been put through by her and seeing him bracing himself up later alone.  I felt so broken for him all the confidence & joy was fleeting for she didn't cut his face this time.  She cut much deeper than that, his heart.  He was nothing to her yet inside that little boy all grown up now still hurting, maybe hoping she would have had at least some small act of kindness. There would be none and no change and not even a word of kindness would be found...

My last thoughts are a forced kiss might not be as beautiful as a loving one that is given and taken freely but when looking at all that has happened.  One can understand because of WS's past  HS is someone he has waited a lifetime for longed for and gives him something no one has ever given him before. She is his friend, his family, whom he can trust, who treats him like no other for she is his everything.  HS is that warm safe place that allows him to be free.  He may not be graceful and soft or gentle but his heart is full of only her. It's more than wanting or needing it's about desperation and surviving...

Once you have experienced it your heart can't go back...

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7 minutes ago, meahri_1 said:

 

@enigmatic_zephy We have so many posts on this thread now that you probably missed seeing @qwenli 's post above.

For those of us who have parked here since months before the drama has aired, we’ve repeatedly stated that all POVs are welcome and that constructive criticism and the freedom to ship as desired is also encouraged. In keeping with Soompi rules and guidelines, only outright bashing of a character, cast member or the drama is prohibited.

 

The pace of the thread is so very quick now that sometimes numerous posts on one particular topic, such as the editing, can inadvertently turn into one long rant session and the overall mood of the community and the tone of the posts can get hung up, subsequently impacting the balance of the varying views that are being expressed.  So, in our efforts to maintain the overall health of the thread or to avoid misunderstandings within the community, you’ll find some of our longtime resident posters like @qwenli and Soompi moderators like @LyraYoo and @bebebisous33 trying to reboot, if you will, by providing guidance, or by momentarily changing or suggesting another topic to maintain the equilibrium and freedom we all enjoy here.

 

By the way, @qwenli is one of our few recappers during live streaming, so her participation in our thread is much appreciated and very much needed.  It’s very easy to take things out of context when communicating in this medium, so misunderstandings like this are not uncommon. Thankfully we’ve had very few.

 

So thus ends my MLSHR public service announcement for today. Let's continue on with all things MLSHR. :)

 

Cool enough..

 

Even if they are negative comments.. maybe someone is frustrated enough watching something and needs a place to rant it..

Why put the label of constructive criticism.. let people be..

When you find likeminded comment..just go along with that.. negative comments can find their own group and crib abt it..

 

All of us invariably become hypocrites by suggesting things likes these.. just let it be..

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3 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

While people avoided him like pest and never dared to look into his eyes, Hae Soo did the exact opposite. In the episode 1, Hae Soo looked at him and she was like paralysed. She had already caught his eyes therefore he decided to rescue her, when she was about to fall. She was falling because someone had pushed her while the man was running away from Wang So. She on the other hand was just standing there.

Then when he was covered in blood and screaming, destroying these stone piles, she could have run away, like others would have done or like his mother ordered him to leave her alone because he was stinking. Nonetheless Hae Soo ran to him and stopped. She did the opposite of Queen Yoo. First, she even asked if he was injured, while Yoo had told him that she would never ask for this. As conclusion, while Wang Soo looked like an animal, had his face covered with his mask and people avoided him, Hae Soo consoled him, gave him advices, kept him company aso. She saw the good person behind the mask and his "rude" behaviour.

Then in the episode 9, his mask is gone, his scar is gone... people starts being enthousiastic and welcoming him. He is treated like a normal person, not like someone who should be avoided and bring bad luck. He is even welcome by his father, his mother invites him over for dinner (with other intentions). He is now good-looking and his reputation has changed. He brought rain so that people consider it as a sign from the gods. He is treated differently now. But now, we witness a reversal of situation. While people have come to accept him due to his appearances and behaviour, Hae Soo is now doing the opposite again. She is afraid of him. She is now seeing the bad person in him.

Striking is that Hae Soo has not changed. I know, some people said that she had changed and were disappointed. Yet, I don't think, there is some inconstency here. Hae Soo is acting like before. She keeps seeing things beyond the appearances everytime. While people attach too much importance to the exterior, especially in Wang So's case, she sees the personality. In my opinion, she sees the real him now, the one who not only threatens to kill people but who does it without feeling remorse. Sure, he is not the king who ruled with a fist of iron yet, however he did kill all these men at the temple without feeling guilty. He did it for his mother... yet this showed how determined he can be and he has no problem to decide who lives or not. Hae Soo knows nothing about the killing of so many people... she only knows that he killed to survive. Yet she was wrong here. He killed because he wanted to be loved and recognised by his mother. He never did it in self-defense. The bottom of the line is that Hae Soo is finally able to see the real Wang So: the ruthless man he is. Sure, she had experienced his violence, but she recognised at some point, he would only threaten her so that she came to think, he only threatens people but he never does it. 

So far, noone except Hae Soo has ever understood Wang So's true character. They called him an animal because of his appareance and his rude behaviour, without knowing how really dangerous he can be.

3 hours ago, KdramaSwimmer said:

I must say SHR has become one show to make me a complete loner... i am watching episodes and then whole week waiting for next episodes on this thread reading comments, searching internet for any new video-BTS-interview or anything to help me surviving the wait. And yes to add google to know more about Goryeo history what exactly happened then to find out more about the characters and their actions. During all this while I just forget completely how to behave in outside world (i am on my cell on this thread when i m out of home and at home on my laptop). So my real life has hit very badly with the addiction of this show.

After reading all the comments here i found one (sorry forget the name) mentioning how unique this love story is Female Lead in love with Second lead only to fall in love with Male Lead, eventually. That makes this show stand out among rest even more cause its not the ones where we are so used to seeing male - female lead in love from the start (or by epi3-4) but denying the feelings, that becomes one pretty straight forward line to predict. Here its different, complicated, complex, heart wrenching yet entertaining, enchanting, enthralling at the same time.

The procrastination in OTPs love story makes their union even more precious for us, cause we have spent 10-12 episodes with both of these going through all sorts of ups and downs, troubles, pain, denial,tragedies only to figure out other one is THE ONE for them (WS already realized, let HS realize it too). And I was sad seeing (just the last scene here on this thread) a broken, disappointed and hurt WS reacting over HSs hurtful words but after seeing epi9 I am more involved in their love story and waiting patiently till HS will reciprocate the feelings that WS showing her.

I just cant imagine how warm - satisfactory that union would be ? how much happy WS will be after having his life with him by his side ? How HS will express her love for WS? What all he and she can do to prove their love is not the regular one (we have seen so far in other dramas) but the most appealing, warm, heart felt to make us fall for them even more by each passing second they will be together in each other's arms and hearts?

Lastly...the tragedy will be again on its way to part them (if it follows cver)..and i dont want to talk aboout it cause i'll cry buckets just by thinking what all can happen..so hope we will have a somewhat happy ending if not one perfect happy one....

 

Wow @bebebisous33 thank-you for pointing it out. I din realise until you pointed out. She really keep doing the opposite of evyone else. How true that every time she reacts is about the person she sees underneath. Nothing to do with appearance, face, scar or position. Thank-you for aanother amazing assessment.

And @KdramaSwimmer aww I can relate to you. Right now ML is the only drama I care to watch live. At the moment I couldn't immerse myself to really watch another drama. For those dramas that I have some interest I ended up only reading recaps and save them to watch later. I'm also watching reality shows that have LJG or IU. Cause seeing their faces reminds me of ML. Like you because theirs is a love that slow in forming or has formed but fakes time to deepen or realized, it makes it sweeter when it comes 

Someone else I forgot who mentioned about not understanding K audiences and ratings. Again although I still chk out their ratings I've long ago given up. But I take consolation that it is so well loved and received by international audience and also younger audience in Korea (the ML SHR clips were widely watched on Naver}. This thread alone for only 9episodes have generated over 12000posts (about 1300per epi). At this rate by the finale we would hit 26000posts. In Dramabeans, evy single week ML episde recap generated the most comments. It's really most talk about, commented, deliberated upon by those who watch. People like us aft watching each episode spend time combing thru this thread share our comments, ideas, assessments, ML philosophy. Some research more on original novel, Goryeo history, pick up clues from trailers. Some spend it on fanart, gifs, fmvs. So ML has really made an impact and it's far from being a flop. Most important I'm really enjoying it. We haven't reach half way point but the plot is thickening and we're heading to major WS-HS relationship moments, til then our fingers will be furiously typing away here..

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16 minutes ago, MoOnLoVeRz said:
They chose to trust each other, they chose to lean on each other in times of need, they chose to protect each other, and in the end they chose each other. They are my end all be all and I refuse to believe in anything else otherwise.
 
 

 

I agree with this sentiment but to elaborate alittle further in my opinion, they chose each other despite being predestined. I think they are caught in a perpetual 'dance' that no matter the era, they are destined to chose each other each and every time; regardless of insurmountable obstacles or how much devastation they must endure. For me, that is why Hae soo is able to slip though time, she's been here before (this may also be demonstrated by the overlapping visions. They are not premonition but memories. But I'm not so certain, just a thought.) and I do believe the drama will incorporate a reincarnation conclusion. 

Wang so and Hae soo, they are established as the sun and the moon. They only meet during an eclipse, the drama even starts with a solar eclipse! It's predetermined that they meet and inevitably part throughout the ages, just like our two tragic scar couple. Well, that's just my opinion, of course. :)

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3 minutes ago, sharreb said:

And @KdramaSwimmer aww I can relate to you. Right now ML is the only drama I care to watch live. At the moment I couldn't immerse myself to really watch another dramadrama. For those dramas that I have some interest I ended up only reading recaps and save them to watch later. I'm also watching reality shows that have LJG or IU. Cause seeing their faces rereminds me of ML. Like you because theirs is a love slow in forming, it makes it sweeter when it comes 

Someone else I forgot who mentioned about not understanding K audiences and ratings. Again although I still chk out their ratings I've long ago given up. But I take consolation that it is so well loved and received by international audience and also younger audience in Korea (the ML SHR clips were widely watched on Naver}. This thread alone for only 9episodes have generated over 12000posts (about 1300per epi). At this rate by the finale we would hit 26000posts. In Dramabeans, evy single week ML episde recap generated the most comments. It's really most talk about, commented, deliberated upon by those who watch. People like us aft watching each episode spend time combing thru this thread share our comments, ideas, assessments, ML philosophy. Some research more on original novel, Goryeo history, pick up clues from trailers. Some spend it on fanart, gifs, fmvs. So ML has really made an impact and it's far from being a flop. Most important I'm really enjoying it. We haven't reach half way point but the plot is thickening and we're heading to major WS-HS relationship moments, til then our fingers will be furiously typing away here..

 

I had goosebumps reading your last paragraph...it makes feel like a complete another world we are in on SHR and this thread (with so much to read/analyze and speculate)

I always watch 2-3 dramas at a time and may be 4 at max cause i just watch the episdoe and  do nthing else. but here in case of SHR, i stopped all my other dramas cause I have so much think and watch than just watchign the episodes. I have raw episodes (SBS ver), Subbed epi (intl ver), than director cut, all bts from naver, ll fmvs, all gifs, osts downloaded for this drama that ii hant done for any other drama in my life.

This place is like a heaven to me...and ratings being in my country and watchign this show online i am least bothered about ratings as long as I am happy and satisfied how story unfolds.

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14 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

BTW, can LJK speak english? - basic communication level?

I think so, I noticed an improvement in his accent recently, and in an interview for the Chinese movie "Never Said Goodbye", he mentioned that he communicated with the lead actress who doesn't speak Korean in a mixture of English and Mandarin.

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22 minutes ago, enigmatic_zephy said:

BTW, can LJK speak english? - basic communication level?

 

Limited, but yes he can. If you watch the Running Man episode he was on with Haneul and Hongjong, he even goes into that clubbing rant..."when I say joongi, you say...." It was quite hilarious and a must watch if you haven't seen it yet.

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7 hours ago, ferily said:

Okay, I'm a bit confused about the versions... I saw somewhere on this thread that they said the Dramafever version of this drama is the original version that SBS airs in Korea but when I was reading Dramabeans comments, they said that it's the international version...? Which one is which? :blink:

About the kiss scene at the end of episode 9, was the raw version where WS forced kissed her and HS pulled away and they kissed the second time or was it just one straight kiss for episode 9?

Dramafever is the International version.

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