[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[Dundee 8,016]

2 hours ago, amisyka77 said:

 

One of the theory of why is Ha Jin got reincarnated to goryeo as Hae Soo is to redo the history. The theory is during HJ time, the history book will depict king GJong as a murderer of all of his brothers ie a 10/10 bad ruler. So when she got involve with WS (young King GJ), she tamed him with her love so a new history was rewritten. he was 'bad' but at a lesser scale - 5/10 maybe as in the real history now he did kill ..but only one brother and 2 nephews and some officials...

I forgot who put this theory up but thanks to him/her it is quite logical at the moment.

I like this theory, HS's vision prob was a warning so that she could change it.

[kyar7jizhenll 855]

On 9/22/2016 at 3:02 AM, 12blbl said:

 

WS executed his own wife queen Daemok?

In "Iron Empress" drama, WS killed queen Demok (YH) but in real history, it was not known when or how she died but she gave birth to five children.

[skxz 7,215]

KANG HA NEUL WHY ARE YOU SO CUTE WHY?!??! MY FEELS CANNOT BE CONTAINED OMG.

Cr: twitter

[deabakdrama 4,770]

7 hours ago, jentayue said:

Have you watch him in time between dog and wolf yet! He look dashing in that drama and the force kiss between him and nam sang mi was voila.... hahahha...

I just finished watching LGK's two drama.....1. Arang and magistrate 2. Scholar who walks at night.....I like both drama. He manages to portray both characters, I can't describe in wording...hehehehe, I m going to watch Joseon Gunman while waiting for next episode

[berny 8,269]

15 minutes ago, skxz said:

KANG HA NEUL WHY ARE YOU SO CUTE WHY?!??! MY FEELS CANNOT BE CONTAINED OMG.

 

Cr: twitter

 

Hahha i know right  and KHN is so touchy with IU..... and if you watch closely the BTS...amidst all the other actors around, his eyes always focus on her...no matter how far she is standing from him...he will just glance only at her...HAHA...this guy...and his feels..

[nearsea 15,132]

After all the recent sad talks and seriousness I realized for the first time this drama is possibly going to end on a sad note, which I didn't expect at all. ='( So after a lots of struggle  I decided to traumatize myself and went on checking the ending for the original drama. Aand I dare not want to know how scarlet heart's conclusion will be..Firstly they should not have made Suu so much feisty and comically funny at the start, which may be part of the reason why I never thought the tone of the drama would be a somber one in future. But anyhow, still hoping that we can have some kind of happy ending for So and Su, and that the princes don't feed off each other's flesh, that would be the worst of all.

[ruizaio 10,807]

DC Galler Usui made a Housemaid parody trailer of WS and HS. Steamy!

 

[leekyuphii 7,033]

@junee22 wow....we really have the same wave length (its rare i found one that have the same wave length with me).....we thought and did the same things...same, i just screening what i want to read....hahahahaha...but i love reading people rants,its like they speak my words that i cant write better here..so i dont need to add it because most of the rant have same points. yeah im on the stage of fool right now...its like i want to defend this drama every where but then i thought,better i use my effort to spread the love to this drama than defend here and there that sometimes it useless..haters gonna hate hate hate....

29 minutes ago, kyar7jizhenll said:

Even though history said that WS ruled the country in fear, it is NOT that he was killing people for no reason. He killed some powerful clans during later period of his reign as he was trying to establish absolute monarchy and those clans were hindering his authorities. Both his brother Muu and Yo tried to curb those clan's power and were NOT successful, leading to WS iron-fist rule.

thanks for the history insight...i just read about goryeo in wiki english and i feel thats not as complete as you write here.Kinda agree with WS was killing ppl for no reason..after watching many political saeguk drama, this kill and be killed is like a common things there, to reach more power in monarchy system back then. They dont care kill their own family as long as it can increase their power. WS have their own reason ofc, and as far as i know the king in goryeo isnt as strong as joseon dynasty...this powerful clan family have their own powers to on each area there...and when i watch SFD in the beginning of joseon, its difficult to "take care" this powerful clan family things, like they have their own army (private army) and in joseon the process to get ride of private army is difficult too and ofc need blood war to sacrifice it.

about the osts...so far i love all the ost...the baek ah yeon one maybe the one that slap me the most..because its like said what our leads words..its hurt, sad but so true...thats what i feel after watch ep 9...and im happy finally hear male singer on the ost at the end of ep 9...its not that im complaint about it but when female singer sing an ost its feels they speak heroine words more though it can applied to hero too..and vice versa...when finally hear that male singer song, i scream FINALLY......WS words..hahahahhahahaha..thats what my first expression when heard that songs...cant wait to hear upcoming OSTs...

[amisyka77 11,840]

10 minutes ago, ruizaio said:

DC Galler Usui made a Housemaid parody trailer of WS and HS. Steamy!

 

 

Great one!

If you type 'Hae soo and wang so' on youtube, you'll get tones of fanmade videos with awesome songs with HS-WS only clips.  Check them out. A great way to spend the time waiting for next ep..lol

 

[bebebisous33 119,699]

I would like to comment about Hae Soo and Wang So's relationship. Striking was that Hae Soo started getting close to him, despite his bad reputation, his scar, his mask and his violent and rude behaviour.

While people avoided him like pest and never dared to look into his eyes, Hae Soo did the exact opposite. In the episode 1, Hae Soo looked at him and she was like paralysed. She had already caught his eyes therefore he decided to rescue her, when she was about to fall. She was falling because someone had pushed her while the man was running away from Wang So. She on the other hand was just standing there.

Then when he was covered in blood and screaming, destroying these stone piles, she could have run away, like others would have done or like his mother ordered him to leave her alone because he was stinking. Nonetheless Hae Soo ran to him and stopped. She did the opposite of Queen Yoo. First, she even asked if he was injured, while Yoo had told him that she would never ask for this. As conclusion, while Wang Soo looked like an animal, had his face covered with his mask and people avoided him, Hae Soo consoled him, gave him advices, kept him company aso. She saw the good person behind the mask and his "rude" behaviour.

Then in the episode 9, his mask is gone, his scar is gone... people starts being enthousiastic and welcoming him. He is treated like a normal person, not like someone who should be avoided and bring bad luck. He is even welcome by his father, his mother invites him over for dinner (with other intentions). He is now good-looking and his reputation has changed. He brought rain so that people consider it as a sign from the gods. He is treated differently now. But now, we witness a reversal of situation. While people have come to accept him due to his appearances and behaviour, Hae Soo is now doing the opposite again. She is afraid of him. She is now seeing the bad person in him.

Striking is that Hae Soo has not changed. I know, some people said that she had changed and were disappointed. Yet, I don't think, there is some inconstency here. Hae Soo is acting like before. She keeps seeing things beyond the appearances everytime. While people attach too much importance to the exterior, especially in Wang So's case, she sees the personality. In my opinion, she sees the real him now, the one who not only threatens to kill people but who does it without feeling remorse. Sure, he is not the king who ruled with a fist of iron yet, however he did kill all these men at the temple without feeling guilty. He did it for his mother... yet this showed how determined he can be and he has no problem to decide who lives or not. Hae Soo knows nothing about the killing of so many people... she only knows that he killed to survive. Yet she was wrong here. He killed because he wanted to be loved and recognised by his mother. He never did it in self-defense. The bottom of the line is that Hae Soo is finally able to see the real Wang So: the ruthless man he is. Sure, she had experienced his violence, but she recognised at some point, he would only threaten her so that she came to think, he only threatens people but he never does it. 

All this explains why Wang So would be so hurt by her words, as she was the one who told him that he was a good person, although he would threaten to kill people all the time. Now, from my point of view, she has finally discerned the real personality of Wang So:

- the one who wants to be loved, the one who is kind, generous and warm-hearted

- the one who can kill without remorse, can be really violent

So far, noone except Hae Soo has ever understood Wang So's true character. They called him an animal because of his appareance and his rude behaviour, without knowing how really dangerous he can be. 

@40somethingahjumma @Yongzura @valsava @littleloony @junee22 @evie7

[amisyka77 11,840]

Check this one...

The lyrics are so WS-HS personalities

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7jCg-ISzpmQ

"October & April"
(feat. Anette Olzon)
 

She was like April skies
Sunrise in her eyes
Child of light
Shining star
Fire in her heart
Brightest day
Melting snow
Breaking through the chill
October and April

He was like frozen sky
In October night
Darkest cloud
Endless storm
Raining from his heart
Coldest moon
Deepest blue
Tearing down the spring
October and April

Like hate and love
Worlds apart
This fatal love was like poison right from the start
Like light and dark
Worlds apart
This fatal love was like poison right from the start

We were like loaded guns
Sacrificed our lives
We were like love undone
Craving to entwine
Fatal touch
Final thrill
Love was bound to kill
October and April

Like hate and love
Worlds apart
This fatal love was like poison right from the start
Like light and dark
Worlds apart
This fatal love was like poison right from the start

Hate and love
Worlds apart
This fatal love was like poison right from the start
Light and dark
Worlds apart
This fatal love was like poison right from the start

October and April
October and April
October and April

 

[qwenli 62,602]

oh I am so excited reading these on instagram, I had to share it here.

Today, IU had her anniversary fan meeting and responding to questions here are her answers:

1) Who are your favourite princes in MLSHR?

Answer: 4th and 14th.

2) The song HaeSoo sang on Wang Eun's birthday was her composition.

The director requested she write as song that would be a warm memory for the princes in the drama

credit Scarletheart_sbs on Instagram and Twitter/moonloverssbs

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@kyar7jizhenll Thanks for all the historical info.

you know while reading your post, I suddenly thought what if the scene that HS saw of WS slashing WE (besides mercy killing), is because Yo has put a knife around HS's neck and threatened WS. That would be an interesting twist to the story....

[hiluna 6,211]

1 hour ago, Caelia Celia said:

The 20-episode-long period series, which airs on Mondays and Tuesdays, is scheduled to air its final episode on Oct. 31. There has been speculation that SBS might run an extra 21st episode on Nov. 1. 

 

31 oct , wow

my Birthday date 

I wonder whether the extra episode is going to be an alternate ending. This was done before in another drama (can't remember which one), so it wouldn't surprise me if the director made an alternate ending. I would have if it was up to me because this drama has been quite unpredictable considering it is based on a novel and a previous version.  It is taking us on a roller coaster ride so there will be unhappy passengers if it doesn't end the way they hope, better to give them a choice, but please no open ending 

[solelylurking 4,761]

All those pics got me dazed. Red and black goes beyond gorgeous for LJK. 

I change my theory on WS kidnaping HS.

I think HS will flee after WS drank the poison. Without WS or WW knowing. She will decide it will better if she left all, including the man she love, behind. There is only so much a girl can take. After that WS and WW will search but only WS will succeed in finding her then the love story can begin. 

This based on the long trailer where Wook madly search for her and HS being all dirty when WS stole a kiss from her. 

Clean slate for her. New hope for him. New beginning for them. 

Sorry for the rambling. I just have to find a new activity while waiting for Monday. This drama is driving me insane. Like Joker level insane. 

[KdramaAddict 14,568]

I must say SHR has become one show to make me a complete loner... i am watching episodes and then whole week waiting for next episodes on this thread reading comments, searching internet for any new video-BTS-interview or anything to help me surviving the wait. And yes to add google to know more about Goryeo history what exactly happened then to find out more about the characters and their actions. During all this while I just forget completely how to behave in outside world (i am on my cell on this thread when i m out of home and at home on my laptop). So my real life has hit very badly with the addiction of this show.

After reading all the comments here i found one (sorry forget the name) mentioning how unique this love story is Female Lead in love with Second lead only to fall in love with Male Lead, eventually. That makes this show stand out among rest even more cause its not the ones where we are so used to seeing male - female lead in love from the start (or by epi3-4) but denying the feelings, that becomes one pretty straight forward line to predict. Here its different, complicated, complex, heart wrenching yet entertaining, enchanting, enthralling at the same time.

The procrastination in OTPs love story makes their union even more precious for us, cause we have spent 10-12 episodes with both of these going through all sorts of ups and downs, troubles, pain, denial,tragedies only to figure out other one is THE ONE for them (WS already realized, let HS realize it too). And I was sad seeing (just the last scene here on this thread) a broken, disappointed and hurt WS reacting over HSs hurtful words but after seeing epi9 I am more involved in their love story and waiting patiently till HS will reciprocate the feelings that WS showing her.

I just cant imagine how warm - satisfactory that union would be ? how much happy WS will be after having his life with him by his side ? How HS will express her love for WS? What all he and she can do to prove their love is not the regular one (we have seen so far in other dramas) but the most appealing, warm, heart felt to make us fall for them even more by each passing second they will be together in each other's arms and hearts?

Lastly...the tragedy will be again on its way to part them (if it follows cver)..and i dont want to talk aboout it cause i'll cry buckets just by thinking what all can happen..so hope we will have a somewhat happy ending if not one perfect happy one....

*back to searching net for anything more related to this show*

And i have one question if anyone can help...can i translate Naver page in english... its all in korean and not possible for me to search SHR videos there.

[deabakdrama 4,770]

3 hours ago, frostfire said:

 

I'm not even looking at ratings or comparing shows with others at the same time slot. Even if this show were having soaring ratings I would still comment about bad edits/poor song choices because the ratings don't negate these issues. It's like saying viewers who watch shows with high ratings only see the good things and are somehow blinded to the bad. 

Am I mistaken in thinking that soompi is a place where viewers can share their love for a show as well as point out what is lacking or can be approved upon in the show? I don't think majority of the people here are bashing the show for the sake of doing it. We're sharing our collective disappointment that the production team should have done a better job. It's fully pre-produced. The production team had more than enough time to work out the kinks and make sure the story makes narrative sense. The fact that there are 2 versions of this show is a perfect illustration that the original version desperately needs work. 

It is a fact that this show is badly edited, even if we don't compare it to other shows. Come on, that scene in episode 6 where Wang So defended Baek-ah from Wang Yo is clearly a cut from episode 4 where the princes arrived in time to see Hae-soo being punished by Yeon-hwa. It was a bit confusing to see why So suddenly reverted to his old clothes until you put those two scenes from different episodes together. Just by reading comments one can see that viewers felt that scene came out of nowhere in episode 6, despite it being necessary to explain why Baek-ah is suddenly comfortable enough to drag So around. Is that not testament to bad editing?

I'm not trashing the show for shits and giggles here. The reason why I am still watching this show despite the editing is because I still think there is a reason for me to watch it. 

Hahaha, let us forget about the ratings, but enjoy the progress and development this drama. At start, I was wondering why MLSH could not bring high ratings, it's bother me a while. But, after watching this drama, I would like to say "Deabak" to all casting teams, project teams and writer nim. They have putting their best effort in making this drama for us to enjoy. Because of this drama, I came  back to join soompi forum which I left nearly two year ago , to get more insightful from all chingus. 

Low ratings do not indicate MLHR is bad and failure drama. Could be korean viewers have different taste, happy go lucky drama is the best for everyone of us especially to those working people who is preferring happy drama after work. And yet the ratings shown does not represent all korean viewers.

My second thought, whether it is bad editing or not, I m enjoying and loving this drama..... I concern only if WS and HS will end up together or not.....hehehehe

[Katrina Abdul Talib 10,268]

3 hours ago, amisyka77 said:

i hope  the drama ends and HS goes back to the 21st century before WS gets married to YH. i cannot and would not take it if that happens when HS is alive there. Both HS and me will be too broken-hearted!!

 

Just cannot imagine WS marrying YH! But they had many children together 

[jerboa83 9,497]

2 hours ago, solelylurking said:

 

Hi you.. Yeah I'm waiting for their OST too. Hopefully it will come true. Hehe

Well I just notice half way myself. The problem is what HS is talking about Gwajong and what history really written is kind of different. Sure she got the Gwajong is dictator ruler and there are fears all over when he was reign but the truth is he didn't kill most of his brothers. Only one, in fact. Even Wook survived, right? KDrama writers almost never make that kind of mistake unless it was intentional. They are really thorough and detail in their work. Like in Empress Qi for example. That's where I get the idea that they make a false history fact in the beginning to be corrected later. You are right about history can't be change but in details it was change slightly as HS got premonitions. They do it on purpose. Do you know what I mean? I'm sorry if I make you confused. I'm bad in explaining about history hahaha. What HS roles in this matter and why, I still need to think about it. Feel free to chip in. 

I share your opinion and expect some surprising twists... We still don't what those premonitions actually mean, come from and lead to. 

[skxz 7,215]

58 minutes ago, bebebisous33 said:

I would like to comment about Hae Soo and Wang So's relationship. Striking was that Hae Soo started getting close to him, despite his bad reputation, his scar, his mask and his violent and rude behaviour.

While people avoided him like pest and never dared to look into his eyes, Hae Soo did the exact opposite. In the episode 1, Hae Soo looked at him and she was like paralysed. She had already caught his eyes therefore he decided to rescue her, when she was about to fall. She was falling because someone had pushed her while the man was running away from Wang So. She on the other hand was just standing there.

Then when he was covered in blood and screaming, destroying these stone piles, she could have run away, like others would have done or like his mother ordered him to leave her alone because he was stinking. Nonetheless Hae Soo ran to him and stopped. She did the opposite of Queen Yoo. First, she even asked if he was injured, while Yoo had told him that she would never ask for this. As conclusion, while Wang Soo looked like an animal, had his face covered with his mask and people avoided him, Hae Soo consoled him, gave him advices, kept him company aso. She saw the good person behind the mask and his "rude" behaviour.

Then in the episode 9, his mask is gone, his scar is gone... people starts being enthousiastic and welcoming him. He is treated like a normal person, not like someone who should be avoided and bring bad luck. He is even welcome by his father, his mother invites him over for dinner (with other intentions). He is now good-looking and his reputation has changed. He brought rain so that people consider it as a sign from the gods. He is treated differently now. But now, we witness a reversal of situation. While people have come to accept him due to his appearances and behaviour, Hae Soo is now doing the opposite again. She is afraid of him. She is now seeing the bad person in him.

Striking is that Hae Soo has not changed. I know, some people said that she had changed and were disappointed. Yet, I don't think, there is some inconstency here. Hae Soo is acting like before. She keeps seeing things beyond the appearances everytime. While people attach too much importance to the exterior, especially in Wang So's case, she sees the personality. In my opinion, she sees the real him now, the one who not only threatens to kill people but who does it without feeling remorse. Sure, he is not the king who ruled with a fist of iron yet, however he did kill all these men at the temple without feeling guilty. He did it for his mother... yet this showed how determined he can be and he has no problem to decide who lives or not. Hae Soo knows nothing about the killing of so many people... she only knows that he killed to survive. Yet she was wrong here. He killed because he wanted to be loved and recognised by his mother. He never did it in self-defense. The bottom of the line is that Hae Soo is finally able to see the real Wang So: the ruthless man he is. Sure, she had experienced his violence, but she recognised at some point, he would only threaten her so that she came to think, he only threatens people but he never does it. 

All this explains why Wang So would be so hurt by her words, as she was the one who told him that he was a good person, although he would threaten to kill people all the time. Now, from my point of view, she has finally discerned the real personality of Wang So:

- the one who wants to be loved, the one who is kind, generous and warm-hearted

- the one who can kill without remorse, can be really violent

So far, noone except Hae Soo has ever understood Wang So's true character. They called him an animal because of his appareance and his rude behaviour, without knowing how really dangerous he can be. 

That was an amazing summary of the relationship between Soo and So!! I absolutely agree with you that she beyond what's on the surface when it comes to So. He's almost like an open book to her. The funny thing as well which you pointed out is that Hae Soo seems to always see the "opposite" of what other's see. She really knows what's up. Whilst everyone else around him barely scratches the surface of who he really is. And the turn of events with the vision and everything (like I've said before) will only strengthen their relationship. 

[frostfire 939]

10 minutes ago, solelylurking said:

All those pics got me dazed. Red and black goes beyond gorgeous for LJK. 

I change my theory on WS kidnaping HS.

I think HS will flee after WS drank the poison. Without WS or WW knowing. She will decide it will better if she left all, including the man she love, behind. There is only so much a girl can take. After that WS and WW will search but only WS will succeed in finding her then the love story can begin. 

This based on the long trailer where Wook madly search for her and HS being all dirty when WS stole a kiss from her. 

Clean slate for her. New hope for him. New beginning for them. 

Sorry for the rambling. I just have to find a new activity while waiting for Monday. This drama is driving me insane. Like Joker level insane. 

 

I actually think that Hae-soo was captured by the palace guards for the attempted poisoning of a prince (which explains why she was held back by guards when she tried to run over to Wang So when he was coughing up blood in the preview). My theory is that she was tortured in prison before the princes work together to rescue her, which explains why her lip seems to be injured when Wang So swoops down to steal a kiss in the 6 minute preview, as well as why she isn't dressed in her court lady uniform. 

As for why Wang Wook is screaming Hae-soo's name in such a heart wrenching manner, the in the preview, we hear his voice saying that he wants to ask the king to allow his marriage to Hae-soo. However, how can a court lady convicted of an attempted poisoning attempt marry a prince? 

I really, really hope this happens because I am dying for the princes to work together again. That small part in episode 6 wasn't enough. I NEED MOAR.