[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

[violet90 21,973]

anyone ever question why HS will look sad even when she in love with WS???

its because of the of all the thing that she knew and caused.. what she want is to prevent the bad thing but it will lead to something more tragic and she will have to endured the guilt feeling by herself.. when with WS she dying to told him all the thing that she knew and the fact she from future but i think its just going to make matter worse..

remember when HS with WW she did't care whether she is GHJ or HS but with WS she want to be herself.. no secret and just love him as it is but she can't.. 

its not because of she did't love him but because all the burden that she hold because of loving him is eaten her alive... its why Ruoxi died too so please writer nim don't make my OTP life miserable and tragic cause they been through enough......

for whatever reason i think WS will be ruthless (he capable to do this) when its comes to protect his person... even in BBJX for Ruoxi sake 4th even punish the one that do wrong to Ruoxi even if they are the person that Ruoxi loves.. and to say 4th in cdrama is more calmer then WS said a lot.. i don't see how WS can get to the point marrying YH cause at this rate he wiling to die for HS.. i think its something that he must do in order to protect her...

HS is the first person that he care and then Baek Ah.. these two is the solid and only reason for him to pursue the throne and protect his person.. so yes i do think WS capable of being ruthless and cruel but he not going to be like that for fun.. WS will have his own reason why and WS is a good person no matter what just like HS said...

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10 minutes ago, UnniSarah said:

Chingu , I feel the same way. Wang So had my heart the moment he walked bathing area and bumped into Hae Soo. My favorite scene between my OTP SoSoo couple. 

 

Wang So is going to be forever in our heart, no matter what happen in the future of drama land kekekekeke

[luci13 8,392]

Oh thanks for the heads up @qwenli! I didnt watch them all except Empress Ki maybe it's because about Goryeo then haha

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28 minutes ago, qwenli said:

You are an angel. I need to commend you. I am glad, someone like the show as it is. 

@shinaabby yes, since ep 7, I think MLSHR has done a great job differentiating themselves from BBJX.

I am concurrently trying to rewatch some of BBJX too and I notice some minor points in BBJX were picked out by MLSHR to dramatize. Like how they pick out the part where the 8th's wife has a crush on the 8th and hence insist on marrying him. This was merely mentioned over a conversation. But in MLSHR, they took that part and created Lady Hae from that basis.

@luci13 actually there are many historicals on primetime korean tv that are very long. Empress ki and Six Flying dragons were 50 eps. Then there were Chuno and Shine or Go Crazy, to name a few that I remembered.

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I need someone to help me on Jimong. What I understand is, he went to the future when he was 4 or 5? Then he came back to his current life talking like an adult? Is that right? Its not that he is from future right? Actually I think that should show HS that there is a way back, but she never even asked him that. hmmm. 

 

You know... I kinda gave up on understanding Jimong.  To me, he's like that weird cat in "Alice in Wonderland" where you can never get straight answers from....  (even to this day, I still don't understand that cat either!)  But, in today's episode when he said he went to the future when he was 4 or 5, it reminded me of a similar plot device in the Kdrama "Dr. Jin" where one of the female characters was a little girl and injured herself.  From that injury, she was sent to the future when Dr. Jin was a doctor.  He treated that little girl and somehow she was transported back to her own time.  Then when Dr. Jin was transported back in time, that little girl was grown up and recognized him as someone from the future because she had been there herself briefly.

So I'm wondering if there is a similar storyline here, where maybe Jimong was transported to the future and somehow met the real Go Ha Jin (Haesoo) when he was young - before their original meeting in episode 1.  And some how that's why she got transported back in time...?

[kdramakrazy 789]

ok i know everyone including me flipped out with hae soo acting crazy yesterday. but overall the episode in itself was actually good. as long as the story is interesting thats all that matters. romance is secondary

[iloveknovela 5,239]

Wow... there's so much to read.  This thread is on fire!!

Seems that most of you guys here are well knowledgeable about Korean history.  Honestly, I barely knew most of them and  not even sure if it's actually what happened since most of the historical drama were a little twisted from what actually happened.  I really appreciate your input guys and thanks a lot.  I couldn't name you all but I basically liked your posts.

Well, I actually have so much to say on how I view this drama and how it can be applicable to our personal life,  especially on how we think and make decision because it basically determines our future.  But I'll save it later.

All I can say is that, LJG is indeed very versatile not only as an actor but an artist.  A complete package of looks and talent.  He looks and did great in everything he does.  I enjoy watching him on screen regardless of his role.

I have nothing against HS-WW couple but WS-HS couple is where my heart goes.  There is a little setback in the last episode between them but I don't think it will last long.  Later on, HS will realize who she really is attracted to.  In my observation, she might be mistaken about liking and loving someone.  It's a different thing.  She liked WW because he's been good to her ever since and have never seen his dark side.  Will she feel the same if he became harsh to her?  Her relationship with WS is different... it was her who actually reached out to WS from the very beginning, and it was the reason why WS softened a little bit about her and started noticing her.  So what exactly draws her to WS?  He almost had nothing to hide from her and yet she look at him with different eye compared to how others perceive WS.  Perhaps, she is already attracted to him but didn't realize it.  Or maybe it's already love?  Being able to care and accept someone at their worst is the highest form of love, I believe.  Love always hope, always trust, and always persevere.  Both HS & WS have trust problem but they have learned to trust and depend on each other in difficult circumstances.  But just like any other relationship, storms come but it will eventually determine what their hearts truly desires.

 

 

[mintkiss 340]

so many thoughts... sorry if these have already been mentioned. i make it a point to avoid this thread until after i've seen the episodes. and, due to the time difference and my work schedule, means i usually chime in long after it's aired! 

these are thoughts based on the international version of ep 9. i haven't had a chance to check what the differences the SBS version has yet.

haesoo has set the prince battle in motion, for better or worse. (actually, i'm quite excited for this. i love palace schemes! )  8th prince seems to be throwing in his chips.  princess yeonhwa is intriguing though.  i know she hates the evil queen, but the preview shows them meeting and her saying that she basically wants to be a kingmaker.  i guess she's tired of waiting around for 8th to make up his mind.

3rd prince Wang Yo - a man who seems to be all bark and very little bite. awful case of self-entitlement (probably due to evil queen coddling him and putting ideas in his head when young), doesn't seem very well-equipped to be a good and smart ruler.  no wonder his stint as king won't last very long.

4th prince Wang So said THE CLASSIC BBJX LINE to haesoo!!!!!!!! i will have to paraphrase, but it was something along the lines of you belong to me, you are not allowed to die without my permission. cries buckets! despite the circumstances, it made my heart jump in happiness, but it pretty much confirms to me that their love will be similar to the original version...    i'm holding out hope for a reincarnation semi-happy ending though.  if i recall correctly, the text in wang so's official (?) bio says he wants to be haesoo's lover even in the next life.  that to me is very important.  also recall that the general briefly touched on reincarnation when he chatted with wang so about murdering the monks: that wang so would probably have to pay for that crime over his next lives.  so i guess the reincarnation of wang so won't be able to meet the reincarnation of haesoo until go hajin's generation.  if that makes sense... pardon my random thoughts lol!

also A++++++ gold star sticker for him for standing up for himself and sassing back to his mom.  so proud of him there.  i was worried that the queen had poisoned his food for a moment.   go figure she would try to use him again.  i'm glad 14th prince is starting to see the light.  honestly i'm surprised 3rd prince and queen had the balls to suggest CP's murder in front of 14th.  i would think they would try to hide that stuff from him.  i'm also surprised they basically admitted to organizing other attempts (if i recall correctly... i'll have to watch this ep again).

the kiss scene - i will have to read everyone's thoughts on this when i have enough time to page back. i have to admit it made me uncomfortable. yes, i realize it was done by a desperate man who was mentally kicked and beaten by his mother yet again, who did not want to lose the only person he learned to completely trust.  and haesoo, who has been scared out of her wits due to her premonition, basically just... gives in during the 2nd kiss??? what was that about lol. kind of tropey imo, but perhaps ep 10 will better explain it.

i've seen the clip of 4th's explicit confession to haesoo in the SBS version of ep 8. but if you're someone strictly coming from watching only the international version...the back hug he gives her - before she freaks out and he kisses her - seems to be very forward of him, for lack of a better term.  

regarding the premonition of 10th and his wife, the general's daughter - it seems strange that 4th would target them, as 10th seems to harbor zero desire for the throne. you would think he would want the general on his side as well.

other random thoughts: haesoo has again said that she won't change first, alluding to her story about her ex-bf and friend cheating on her at the beginning of ep 1.  this will come back to bite her again when she falls in love with 4th... aishhh the delicious angst.

anyway, that's all from me for now.  thanks for reading if you've come this far. ^^;

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[berny 8,268]

SHE TIME-TRAVELED FOR NOTHING ? 
I hope not...

Ha Jin from the present was transported back a thousand years to  Goryeo (as HS).
Present time with rotten life left behind......for a different place, better life?...HAH ! think again...it's more like..FOR MORE HARDSHIPS TO COME Ha Jin  (drama gods are sinister that way you know). 
Met and befriended Princes who have power struggles, emotional baggage, family issues, and beastmode streaks.  With life-threats and dangers to boot.

Who's behind it?  Why her ? Does she have a very, very important mission? A world-changing, earth-shaking role to fulfill?
Is it just to introduce a cosmetic and soap line in all of Goryeo? ...duh 

Well she has crossed a thousand years only to be continuously told  "YOU MUST  NOT, AND CANNOT CHANGE ANYTHING HERE" No, no, no  ....as JM said to her, as well as Lady Oh warned her.

So why was she brought there in the first place ?  just for kicks ? her fate trolling her? 
Even giving her some psychic power which is more of a detriment than an asset.
 

If she were not there  =  Gwangjong is still a baddie
When she is there      =  Gwangjong is still a baddie
NOT MUCH OPTIONS RIGHT?  The outcome is still the same anyway.....so why?  why?  what is this all for?

She's just there for entertainment ? for diversion, to please Princes    who have bruised egos, emotional or physical scar ?

Or can she just be brave enough just one time to just do something, since she seemed trapped there anyway, with a damn -if -you- do, damn -if -you- don't situation.

Maybe just maybe this could be the equation............

If Gwangjong (WS) had not known her = he'd turned into a 100% baddie
Now with her in his life AND IF SHE CHOOSE TO ACT ON IT  = he'd just be 50% baddie....  well that could be considerably less right..... if not a total change.

PROBABLY THERE IS A WAY AROUND IT.......... 
ONE CANNOT CHANGE A PERSON,  ONE CANNOT CHANGE THE COURSE OF HISTORY

BUT SHE CAN BE A FRIEND.. A CONFIDANT....A LOVE for someone who "desperately" needs her.  
If she stands by WS, and be his refuge...maybe just maybe some of his darkness will be dispelled. 
Instead of frantically warning all the brothers that might get hurt, why not bring peace and love to WS first and how he evolve from there is up to him.
At least with that, her being there would not have been futile and useless after all.

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my guess on HS premonition: the real meaning is not only of his cruelty, but of how miserable he will be!!! she is seing his future self, which is also the ruthless one, but also she sees him in pain: the pain of his father dying, the one when he will stand all alone on the same place where he was in ep 9, having everything but being alone , the one of having to put an end to his brother's life .... if he is her fated one, she cannot see only just his future, but mostly when he will lonely and miserable; I think this could be one of her premonition meanings

 

[tatty 298]

I just can't even...

Two episodes are not enough!!! Another week we have to wait!!!

So Ji Mong is sorta in the same scenario as HS! He's probably from the future but was too young to understand what happened to him so he considers himself as a foreseer instead.. And speaking of foreseeing things...freakin HS just ruined this episode. How come all of a sudden she realizes that WS is the king that kills all his brothers and nephews, etc. It's just so sudden! 

WS has such a warm heart...and...and...and... you guys know what I mean right?! How could he be able to kill his family that he's been longing a relationship with all this time?! Even through all this time that HS's interacted with and gotten to know WS all this time can't she tell what type of person he is? Even though she's from the future... Maybe...because of HS's existence in this period, history has already gotten screwed up and the person that is going to kill all the brothers, etc is someone different *coughcough8thprinceperhaps?nottryingtodraghimdownoranything*. 

I guess in the next episode, she'll realize that he's not really someone cold hearted...  

alright...countdown begins again. ;_;

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Also, is there a purpose to introduce some of the princes? i.e. 9th prince, 14th prince... We barely get to see any on screen time for 9th prince. 

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[lebritneeey 899]

HOLY CRAP gotta come online here as soon as I finished watching ep 9!!!! 

I was like OMGGGGG the entire time at the last part of ep 9, the part where So was just saying all those cheesy stuff and I'm like OMG WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS HE CONFESSING 

And then the kiss happened and I'm like OMG HELLO CANT YOU SEE SHE DOESN'T WANNA KISS YOU????? And then Soo stopped struggling and I was like yeah just enjoy that kiss for a while cause what are the chances of kissing him again 

In ep 9 I could see that So is becoming desperate for Soo right now, he's officially super in love with her and I'm guessing in future episodes, he'll do what it takes to keep her by his side. Right now though, we all know that Soo is in love with Wook, but following the original story, something will cause her and Wook to fall apart which then will lead to her falling in love with So. 

Like I mentioned yesterday, it's understandable for her to be shock after seeing the visions of Evil So, but then now she's probably gonna try and change history and then we all know that's not gonna work cause ultimately, Evil So will still be evil and kill all his brothers. No matter what she tries to do, the outcome will still be the same. But she obviously won't realize that until later I think, since in order for her to realize that, several "bad things" has to happen. 

Okay, so now evil mom is starting to be good to So already????? HOW FAKE OMG can someone just strangle her for me, she's getting on my nerve omg. 

Awww, I feel kinda bad for Eun seeing how he needs to get married to a girl that is not Soo.  But the "warrior girl" is quite adorable, she's like so tough but she becomes all shy and gentle in front of Eun hehe. 

I'm waiting for Soo to meet Woohee, seems like they'd be best of friends. And I think Soo needs some female friends apart from Chaeryung~ 

Can't wait for next week's episodes!!!!! 

[violet90 21,973]

you all should put yourself in HS POV before justified what she done..

at this moment her heart belong to WW.. she love him the most although WS can be consider as a friend but if anything she will protect WW first above all person.. that's why she warn WW about WS cause she want to make sure WW safe from WS... we all tbh will do the same..

people keep judging HS cause what WS been through but for me its understandable cause she not in love with WS for now also she scared what she supposed to do.. just accept WS love just because he miserable?? just accept that because he decide that HS belong to him so she should love him back..?

there is no right or wrong in love.. HS the type that will go all the way to protect the person that she love so for me what she did is normal..

you can't expect her to follow WS heart just because he have a pitiful life.. she have her own heart and its belong to her as per now WW will be the one that she care to protect even if i did't like it a bit..

if she did't do what she do warn WW about WS we tbh not going to get this drama.. everybody will just fall at their place and live by palace rule and nobody get hurt...

i understand WS heart also HS heart.. there no one to blame cause right now they both not in the same boat in term of love... 

 

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1 hour ago, qwenli said:

I need someone to help me on Jimong. What I understand is, he went to the future when he was 4 or 5? Then he came back to his current life talking like an adult? Is that right? Its not that he is from future right? Actually I think that should show HS that there is a way back, but she never even asked him that. hmmm. 

Turn out I was wrong too...same with you I think JM is not thrown from the future ...but he was thrown into the future and come back to goryeo ...his true era.

He said he was facing nearly dead experience and come back to life....well if what he is saying that he saw a plane...he saw skyscrapers ....he found a telescope (now I understand how he is able to create one...because he saw one before and imitate it)...and all the things in his room are his work imitating the things he saw in future)...with JM telling HS that he's not staying in future for a day or two....MANY DAYS....maybe he was in comatose before he finally came back to his soul in goryeo. 

He learn the Goryeo story in future, memorize it very well that's why he is very useful to the King since everything he said just exactly as the King wants, because JM know it...he know what to say, when to act, and how he do it. Even I never see Prime minister or other ministers in King chambers....looks like our King Teajo never need them since he has JM the answer for his everything....and I think he want to help So to become a better So....am I nearly right?? I don't know...I need to sit and watch....

From the moment he met HS, JM doesn't look surprise..AT ALL..... is it because he already knew it?? that will be coming someone to help him in changing So fate in a better future Gwangjoo?

The one that held back So to rise was his scar, and HS come to fix that. Once it's fixed So fate will be shining and rise. That is what the second path that JM must do it successfully. When it finally rains I can help to be more suspicious seeing JM reaction.

 

[redfrommars 5,338]

I'm still replaying the hug and kiss scene (and literally raping the replay button xD)

This is so heartbreaking... She doesn't know his situation with his mother, she cannot comfort him. He doesn't know her premonition about him and goryeo's future, he cannot comfort her. Ughh and when I just want them to cry and hug each other 

Please tell me how to survive until next week's episode T^T

[Guest maniac-moon]

I think every time HS change some thing important ,she has vision about future

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[berny 8,268]

Comments and criticisms on HS character is inevitable...this is a forum after all and everyone's free to post on their take on it.
 

For me it's not really about whom she chooses.... whether she care for WW or WS .... (why was she brought there in the first place anyway,  was it because of WW or WS? ) well heck, if I'd have my way, I'd just transport her back to the present time, and be free of all these madness that SHE DOES NOT NEED.

What I want to see in a character is someone who would not BLURT OUT PROMISES SO EASILY, THEN JUST EASILY BREAK THEM... someone who would NOT selfishly protect a person over and at THE EXPENSE OR DETRIMENT of another,  who is also a friend... It's not all about just love ...or loving someone, it is also about  conviction, accountability, of respect and integrity  and being compassionate to a fellow human being.