[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

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Hae Soo's revelation of King Gwangjong. At this moment I feel like Wang So when Hae Soo suddenly pops up from the water. I was not expecting that...

HS and WS are experiencing their own surprises as well.

You have to see it from both perspectives. On one hand, we have HS, who has just realized that Wang So is King Gwangjong. Understandably, she is shaken. It's like, "Hey, you know that guy you've been hanging around, that's Hitler." (But I don't think, you're any Hitler, WS) It's a natural instinct to be wary. But I believe once HS gets over her initial shock, she will see WS is still the guy that looked like a lost little boy covering his eye, and she will possibly make him a better person.

Now on the other hand, there is WS, who knows nothing about her visions or King Gwangjong. He might perceive HS withdrawl as her turning down his romantic advance, because she is with WW. Which will cause him to become scared of losing the one person that makes him feel sane in his messed up world, hence he will become possessive. But I don't believe crazy possessive (I hope), but possessive in a way that he just wants her love and for her to only love him. He may not express it well at first, but eventually he will win her heart.

I'm feeling apprehensive about the kiss, I can't see HS recieving it in kind, because one she doesn't like to be called "mine" and her emotions are in turmoil right now. 

 

gif cr: starberrykoko.com

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1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

Could it be connected to the poisonous tea that Wang So drank in order to protect Hae Soo?

 

What poisonous tea? When did this happen? 

Also, did anyone realize Royal Concubine's lowkey crush on the emperor in this ep? I feel like this shows how Hae Soo would end up if she were to choose Wang Wook. The relationship between Concubine lady and emperor may be similar to WW and HS in that they have mutual feelings for each other, but HS would never actually be the wife of WW (and just a concubine who is always around.) Thus, HS escapes this fate by ending up with WS. 

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Congratulations for the increased ratings

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EPIK HIGH, LEE HI, MOON LOVERS: SCARLET HEART RYEO OST

EPIK HIGH (FT. LEE HI) – CAN YOU HEAR MY HEART (내 마음 들리나요) MOON LOVERS: SCARLET HEART RYEO OST

SEPTEMBER 19, 2016

 

Are you listening?
To my voice, to this confession for you?

Are you listening right now?
Can you hear my heart?

Like the rain drops falling on the window
You enter my heart

i need u i need u i i miss u

I saved my words in order to forget you
I tell myself that I really forgot
But in the end, I’m talking about you
But I need to forget that I’m trying to forget you
In order to really forget you

you gotta give me time,
I ain’t perfect
but I’m tryin’ to
erase you perfectly.

We came too far to turn things back
But when I look back, you’re always right behind me

I know

I don’t think I can erase
Because the memories were too perfect
For the imperfect me
But I try again

It’s so much harder to fall out of love
Than to fall in love
you make me live and die again

I’m not alive without you.
I’m not alive without you.

You know I’d die without you.

Don’t forget

Are you listening?
To my voice, to this confession for you?

Are you listening right now?
Can you hear my heart?

Like the rain drops falling on the window
You enter my heart

i need u i need u i i miss u

Like a summer night shower, it falls
It’ll come again, the shower of memories
I think you need an umbrella
I’m really worried

I can see out the window
The rash lights of the cars, busily going somewhere
Though you already know my final destination
Even if you don’t ask

All of you that was always in my hands
It transparently smears and my eyes get blurry with tears
When I look back, I’m in the same place
My heart is always heavy
The footsteps of my breakup are slow

If I can’t turn things around
I know one way would be to accept it but

I’m standing here
I’m still standing here

Are you listening?
To my voice, to this confession for you?

Are you listening right now?
Can you hear my heart?

Like the rain drops falling on the window
You enter my heart

i need u i need u i i miss u

Don’t forget me ever.
Never ever
Don’t forget me ever.
Never ever

Never ever girl

Don’t forget me ever.
Never ever
Don’t forget me ever.
Never ever

Me

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Does anyone know the link where in ep 8 we get to see the result of So's new transformation and he says "you are mine"? I saw a couple of links, but it seems its cut from them. Please anyone?? I really want to see that scene together with them. 

[brielover 1,121]

1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

 

@brielover Great insight about the symbol of water and the myth of Goreyo's foundation.   I loved it  as it forced me to think a little deeper. I am glad that @bluemoony added two more observations: Yo and Mu were als blessed from Hae Soo (tea or water) so that we can conclude that she is the one who decides who will be king. But she has no idea about her own function.

Your information explains now why Hae Soo is so loved by the princes (except one). Hae Soo symbolises the country/nation Goreyo therefore the princes will fight for her. Hae Soo is the metapher for the nation. As such, first she tries to unify the brothers (just like unifying the country/ she is nice to all the princes), but at some point, they become more selfish and ambitious so that they will claim Hae Soo as their own and fight for it/her. As conclusion, Wang So's claim is really interesting: just before he goes to the ceremony, he claims her as his!! So he reveals his ambition. Sure, in the drama he is only claiming the woman Hae Soo as his, but if we consider Hae Soo as a metapher for the country, then in reality he is already claiming for the throne.  

Striking is that Yo is the only one who ignores Hae Soo and even looks down on her. This makes me think that Yo's real desire is not to become King, but he has to. He has no real ambition at all, he is just doing it in order to get his mother's love ad recognition. His mother is the one who wants him to become the King so that she can rule the country by using her son. I find it very striking that Yoo tries to act like the kingmaker and as such she wants to shine like the sun, but she is fake: Hae Soo is the real one.

Furthermore we have two princes who have less romantical interest for Hae Soo: Baek Ah and Eun. Both are considered by Hae Soo as friends. Striking is that they both are not interested in becoming a king, while all the others are. Even Jung who seems so innocent and young is actually more ambitious than it meets the eye. He is the one who said to Hae Soo:

- Since you saved my life, my life is yours. These words could be seen: he will dedicate his life for the nation, for Goreyo.

- Moreover, he is shown fighting and he even came once with a sword and told Hae Soo to watch him how he will become a great man and fighter. Baek Ah and Eun are portrayed differently. Eun loves playing and he can't stand killing animals, while Baek Ah is seen drawing. He is more into arts and he has ideals. He only wishes to be free. Both show no real ambition.

As you can see, the nature of the relationship to Hae Soo matters: the friends are not interested in her and as such, they are not ambitious; the romantic ones are ambitious and the one who is not interested in her, he only acts for his mother. It is not his true ambition. Now, you'll ask: what's with Mu and Won?

Notice that Mu has become a supporter of Hae Soo (he helped Wang So to convince Ji Mong to help them to stop the wedding). He treats her well so that she is supporting him. Furthermore he is sick (his physical weakness represents his political weakness) so that he needs Hae Soo's help. Therefore he will become a king but not for long as he is weak and he is not ambitious like his other brothers. We heard his conversation to Ji Mong. He is not really interested and he feels his position as a burden, while Wang So is really embracing Hae Soo (and as such the duty to rule the country). 

I would like to point out that Won, the 9th prince, is ambitious but he is more like Wang Wook in the sense that he doesn't show it. He is waiting and looking to partner up with the strongest one. The way he is behaving around Yo is telling. His ambition can be seen through his wealth and taking care of his own body. He asked Yo in the episode 1 to look at his muscles, a metapher for his strength. So he is training his muscles. this could be interpretated as if he was preparing his own army. As such, he needs money therefore he is wealthy. His wealth is witnessed at the birthday party. Funny is that his biggest weakness is his talk. He always says something inappropriate ("she is as good as a gisaeng; next time she will die aso") so that he is criticised by his brothers. To me, this inability to talk can be seen as an lack of political support. He is not a good thinker and talker so that he will never get the support he wants. 

Finally, I have to talk about Wang Wook. Above, I mentioned his ambition without really explaining it. As such, we need to talk about his relationship with Hae Soo since she is the metaphore for the nation. Lady Hae was the one who wanted him to marry Hae Soo implying that he should be the one who claims Hae Soo as his own, but he refused to do it, too scared and afraid of the consequences. Nonetheless, he claimed her as his in front of Wang So, revealing that he had always seen the throne and nation as his, as if it was his due. Nonetheless, he is scared as well. Since he wants to possess Hae Soo (the nation) therefore we can see it as an ambition. He claims Hae Soo as his without doing anything. On the other hand, Wang Wook is the one who is supported by many. Remember, he told to his wife that many would come to him. In my opinion, he was building his net of supporters (the supply for food episode 3). He is pushed by his family in that direction, but unsure to do it. However, deep down he wants it. His passivity towards Hae Soo is explained by this feeling that the throne is entitled to him. He doesn't need to take concrete steps and he only waits because at some point, he will get the throne/Hae soo. I have just observed that he was the one who asked for Hae Soo's feelings which offers another possibility to go to the meta level: he wants to get chosen by Hae Soo, without doing anything. As conclusion, Wang Wook is the kind of prince who expects to become king without being really active like his other brothers (Jung, Won or Wang So).

As conclusion, the princes represent different kind of princes and their attitude towards the throne, like f. ex.

- a puppet: like Yo

- Won: someone with money but lacking in political support and he is not clever

Thanks to you @brielover, we can see a glimpse of the evolution of our drama and the ending:

- Hae Soo will reject Wang So first (he shows his pure ambition which shocks her) therefore she will distance herself from him. That's why he will struggle first so that Mu and Yo will become king before him.

- Hae Soo will realise that being ambitious is not something negative as such or that he was forced to so that she will finally love him implying she is supporting him.

- She will influence him in a good way so that he is first a good king.

- But at some point, they will be separated  (due to his obsession: his love for Goreyo will be too strong so that he overdoes it) therefore Wang So will change into a different ruler and king which will lead to hae Soo's death. Leaving him will change him: he will become the ruler she feared.

Okay, that's it. Thanks a lot for the support as people keep asking for my analysis. I hoped, it wasn't too boring. MAybe it was too long 

Tell me what you think about it... I am eager to get some feedback. @Yongzura @valsava @littleloony @junee22 @evie7 @40somethingahjumma

 

Wow, @Bebelicious, that's a great analysis.  I was thinking about this too - how each prince connects to  Hae Su if she represents the lifeblood/water of Goryeo and chooses the king.  Re Mu - interesting that she pours some water out to heal him but is stopped from completing the process.  As if those ministrations were cut short (as his life will be).  Re Yo - unlike the Crown Prince, she's forced into serving him, and burns him a bit while doing it.  One gets the sense that he wants the throne but not Goryeo itself, and the people/land/nobles are going to "burn" him if they can.  We'll see!  Regarding the others, yes, I can really see the possibilities you mention, especially the friends vis a vis the lovers, as those who are friends to her and those who romantically love her.  Wook and So's battle for Goryeo will likely mirror their battle for her.  Fun to look forward to.

I just watched the subbed version and gosh this is getting good.  My only complaint is that there is now one less episode to watch!

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1 hour ago, bebebisous33 said:

Could it be connected to the poisonous tea that Wang So drank in order to protect Hae Soo?

From my point of view, Wang So still doesn't know about the relationship between Wook and Hae Soo and I believe, he will discover it in the next episode. Therefore he will claim that she is his and not Wook's. On the other hand, Hae Soo will be the reason why Wang Wook might join forces with Yo because of what she told him about Wang So.

@brielover Great insight about the symbol of water and the myth of Goreyo's foundation.   I loved it  as it forced me to think a little deeper. I am glad that @bluemoony added two more observations: Yo and Mu were als blessed from Hae Soo (tea or water) so that we can conclude that she is the one who decides who will be king. But she has no idea about her own function.

Your information explains now why Hae Soo is so loved by the princes (except one). Hae Soo symbolises the country/nation Goreyo therefore the princes will fight for her. Hae Soo is the metapher for the nation. As such, first she tries to unify the brothers (just like unifying the country/ she is nice to all the princes), but at some point, they become more selfish and ambitious so that they will claim Hae Soo as their own and fight for it/her. As conclusion, Wang So's claim is really interesting: just before he goes to the ceremony, he claims her as his!! So he reveals his ambition. Sure, in the drama he is only claiming the woman Hae Soo as his, but if we consider Hae Soo as a metapher for the country, then in reality he is already claiming for the throne.  

Striking is that Yo is the only one who ignores Hae Soo and even looks down on her. This makes me think that Yo's real desire is not to become King, but he has to. He has no real ambition at all, he is just doing it in order to get his mother's love ad recognition. His mother is the one who wants him to become the King so that she can rule the country by using her son. I find it very striking that Yoo tries to act like the kingmaker and as such she wants to shine like the sun, but she is fake: Hae Soo is the real one.

Furthermore we have two princes who have less romantical interest for Hae Soo: Baek Ah and Eun. Both are considered by Hae Soo as friends. Striking is that they both are not interested in becoming a king, while all the others are. Even Jung who seems so innocent and young is actually more ambitious than it meets the eye. He is the one who said to Hae Soo:

- Since you saved my life, my life is yours. These words could be seen: he will dedicate his life for the nation, for Goreyo.

- Moreover, he is shown fighting and he even came once with a sword and told Hae Soo to watch him how he will become a great man and fighter. Baek Ah and Eun are portrayed differently. Eun loves playing and he can't stand killing animals, while Baek Ah is seen drawing. He is more into arts and he has ideals. He only wishes to be free. Both show no real ambition.

As you can see, the nature of the relationship to Hae Soo matters: the friends are not interested in her and as such, they are not ambitious; the romantic ones are ambitious and the one who is not interested in her, he only acts for his mother. It is not his true ambition. Now, you'll ask: what's with Mu and Won?

Notice that Mu has become a supporter of Hae Soo (he helped Wang So to convince Ji Mong to help them to stop the wedding). He treats her well so that she is supporting him. Furthermore he is sick (his physical weakness represents his political weakness) so that he needs Hae Soo's help. Therefore he will become a king but not for long as he is weak and he is not ambitious like his other brothers. We heard his conversation to Ji Mong. He is not really interested and he feels his position as a burden, while Wang So is really embracing Hae Soo (and as such the duty to rule the country). 

I would like to point out that Won, the 9th prince, is ambitious but he is more like Wang Wook in the sense that he doesn't show it. He is waiting and looking to partner up with the strongest one. The way he is behaving around Yo is telling. His ambition can be seen through his wealth and taking care of his own body. He asked Yo in the episode 1 to look at his muscles, a metapher for his strength. So he is training his muscles. this could be interpretated as if he was preparing his own army. As such, he needs money therefore he is wealthy. His wealth is witnessed at the birthday party. Funny is that his biggest weakness is his talk. He always says something inappropriate ("she is as good as a gisaeng; next time she will die aso") so that he is criticised by his brothers. To me, this inability to talk can be seen as an lack of political support. He is not a good thinker and talker so that he will never get the support he wants. 

Finally, I have to talk about Wang Wook. Above, I mentioned his ambition without really explaining it. As such, we need to talk about his relationship with Hae Soo since she is the metaphore for the nation. Lady Hae was the one who wanted him to marry Hae Soo implying that he should be the one who claims Hae Soo as his own, but he refused to do it, too scared and afraid of the consequences. Nonetheless, he claimed her as his in front of Wang So, revealing that he had always seen the throne and nation as his, as if it was his due. Nonetheless, he is scared as well. Since he wants to possess Hae Soo (the nation) therefore we can see it as an ambition. He claims Hae Soo as his without doing anything. On the other hand, Wang Wook is the one who is supported by many. Remember, he told to his wife that many would come to him. In my opinion, he was building his net of supporters (the supply for food episode 3). He is pushed by his family in that direction, but unsure to do it. However, deep down he wants it. His passivity towards Hae Soo is explained by this feeling that the throne is entitled to him. He doesn't need to take concrete steps and he only waits because at some point, he will get the throne/Hae soo. I have just observed that he was the one who asked for Hae Soo's feelings which offers another possibility to go to the meta level: he wants to get chosen by Hae Soo, without doing anything. As conclusion, Wang Wook is the kind of prince who expects to become king without being really active like his other brothers (Jung, Won or Wang So).

As conclusion, the princes represent different kind of princes and their attitude towards the throne, like f. ex.

- a puppet: like Yo

- Won: someone with money but lacking in political support and he is not clever

Thanks to you @brielover, we can see a glimpse of the evolution of our drama and the ending:

- Hae Soo will reject Wang So first (he shows his pure ambition which shocks her) therefore she will distance herself from him. That's why he will struggle first so that Mu and Yo will become king before him.

- Hae Soo will realise that being ambitious is not something negative as such or that he was forced to so that she will finally love him implying she is supporting him.

- She will influence him in a good way so that he is first a good king.

- But at some point, they will be separated  (due to his obsession: his love for Goreyo will be too strong so that he overdoes it) therefore Wang So will change into a different ruler and king which will lead to hae Soo's death. Leaving him will change him: he will become the ruler she feared.

Okay, that's it. Thanks a lot for the support as people keep asking for my analysis. I hoped, it wasn't too boring. MAybe it was too long 

Tell me what you think about it... I am eager to get some feedback. @Yongzura @valsava @littleloony @junee22 @evie7 @40somethingahjumma

 

 

The metaphor is really interesting and your analysis insightful, but in my opinion your conclusions at the end of the post are too early to be drawn... I don't necessarily agree with all those predictions. 

[LyraYoo 65,273]

Here is the subbed SBS version 

 

[louisawatson 3,389]

even though i loved how they showed Wang So's future darkened emperor version, i really had to laugh at how Hae Soo saw a VISION. i guess she got a superpower when she timetraveled. this is fantasy, so anything can happen, but i wished Hae Soo just remembers that she learned that it was 4th prince who became GwangJong in her history class in school. I mean she could have even guessed it! she remembered that Gwangjong was 4th emperor, so if she guessed that the order goes with oldest to youngest. then current emperor, crown prince, prince Yo, then prince So or prince Wook. and when she considers So and Wook's personalities, she could guess that Gwangjong is prince So who is known to be cruel.

[tessieroo 37,079]

It's become like a treasure hunt every Mon/Tues to find the correct subs for the SBS version.  Thanks to everyone here for providing subs, information, videos, photos, etc. 

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If someone could please PM me a link to a site that uploads the SBS version, i would really appreciate it. I can't seem to find the subbed SBS versions anywhere. I can't wait til tomorrow  

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In c version, yinzhen (wang so) already have wife but in k version wang so doesn't have wife

so when YH and WS get married? In c version, yinzhen 1st wife really nice with RX

[moonlover399993 2,605]

4 minutes ago, LyraYoo said:

Here is the subbed SBS version 

 

Thank you!! I was about to go on a internet hunt for that. Its too bad that some videos its cut out from. Where do you go to see the subbed SBS version? 

 

[brielover 1,121]

Did anyone put up ratings?  I just skimmed and didn't see them.  Wikipedia reports 6.9% up from 5.8% last week.  

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2 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

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Could it be connected to the poisonous tea that Wang So drank in order to protect Hae Soo?

From my point of view, Wang So still doesn't know about the relationship between Wook and Hae Soo and I believe, he will discover it in the next episode. Therefore he will claim that she is his and not Wook's. On the other hand, Hae Soo will be the reason why Wang Wook might join forces with Yo because of what she told him about Wang So.

@brielover Great insight about the symbol of water and the myth of Goreyo's foundation.   I loved it  as it forced me to think a little deeper. I am glad that @bluemoony added two more observations: Yo and Mu were als blessed from Hae Soo (tea or water) so that we can conclude that she is the one who decides who will be king. But she has no idea about her own function.

Your information explains now why Hae Soo is so loved by the princes (except one). Hae Soo symbolises the country/nation Goreyo therefore the princes will fight for her. Hae Soo is the metapher for the nation. As such, first she tries to unify the brothers (just like unifying the country/ she is nice to all the princes), but at some point, they become more selfish and ambitious so that they will claim Hae Soo as their own and fight for it/her. As conclusion, Wang So's claim is really interesting: just before he goes to the ceremony, he claims her as his!! So he reveals his ambition. Sure, in the drama he is only claiming the woman Hae Soo as his, but if we consider Hae Soo as a metapher for the country, then in reality he is already claiming for the throne.  

Striking is that Yo is the only one who ignores Hae Soo and even looks down on her. This makes me think that Yo's real desire is not to become King, but he has to. He has no real ambition at all, he is just doing it in order to get his mother's love ad recognition. His mother is the one who wants him to become the King so that she can rule the country by using her son. I find it very striking that Yoo tries to act like the kingmaker and as such she wants to shine like the sun, but she is fake: Hae Soo is the real one.

Furthermore we have two princes who have less romantical interest for Hae Soo: Baek Ah and Eun. Both are considered by Hae Soo as friends. Striking is that they both are not interested in becoming a king, while all the others are. Even Jung who seems so innocent and young is actually more ambitious than it meets the eye. He is the one who said to Hae Soo:

- Since you saved my life, my life is yours. These words could be seen: he will dedicate his life for the nation, for Goreyo.

- Moreover, he is shown fighting and he even came once with a sword and told Hae Soo to watch him how he will become a great man and fighter. Baek Ah and Eun are portrayed differently. Eun loves playing and he can't stand killing animals, while Baek Ah is seen drawing. He is more into arts and he has ideals. He only wishes to be free. Both show no real ambition.

As you can see, the nature of the relationship to Hae Soo matters: the friends are not interested in her and as such, they are not ambitious; the romantic ones are ambitious and the one who is not interested in her, he only acts for his mother. It is not his true ambition. Now, you'll ask: what's with Mu and Won?

Notice that Mu has become a supporter of Hae Soo (he helped Wang So to convince Ji Mong to help them to stop the wedding). He treats her well so that she is supporting him. Furthermore he is sick (his physical weakness represents his political weakness) so that he needs Hae Soo's help. Therefore he will become a king but not for long as he is weak and he is not ambitious like his other brothers. We heard his conversation to Ji Mong. He is not really interested and he feels his position as a burden, while Wang So is really embracing Hae Soo (and as such the duty to rule the country). 

I would like to point out that Won, the 9th prince, is ambitious but he is more like Wang Wook in the sense that he doesn't show it. He is waiting and looking to partner up with the strongest one. The way he is behaving around Yo is telling. His ambition can be seen through his wealth and taking care of his own body. He asked Yo in the episode 1 to look at his muscles, a metapher for his strength. So he is training his muscles. this could be interpretated as if he was preparing his own army. As such, he needs money therefore he is wealthy. His wealth is witnessed at the birthday party. Funny is that his biggest weakness is his talk. He always says something inappropriate ("she is as good as a gisaeng; next time she will die aso") so that he is criticised by his brothers. To me, this inability to talk can be seen as an lack of political support. He is not a good thinker and talker so that he will never get the support he wants. 

Finally, I have to talk about Wang Wook. Above, I mentioned his ambition without really explaining it. As such, we need to talk about his relationship with Hae Soo since she is the metaphore for the nation. Lady Hae was the one who wanted him to marry Hae Soo implying that he should be the one who claims Hae Soo as his own, but he refused to do it, too scared and afraid of the consequences. Nonetheless, he claimed her as his in front of Wang So, revealing that he had always seen the throne and nation as his, as if it was his due. Nonetheless, he is scared as well. Since he wants to possess Hae Soo (the nation) therefore we can see it as an ambition. He claims Hae Soo as his without doing anything. On the other hand, Wang Wook is the one who is supported by many. Remember, he told to his wife that many would come to him. In my opinion, he was building his net of supporters (the supply for food episode 3). He is pushed by his family in that direction, but unsure to do it. However, deep down he wants it. His passivity towards Hae Soo is explained by this feeling that the throne is entitled to him. He doesn't need to take concrete steps and he only waits because at some point, he will get the throne/Hae soo. I have just observed that he was the one who asked for Hae Soo's feelings which offers another possibility to go to the meta level: he wants to get chosen by Hae Soo, without doing anything. As conclusion, Wang Wook is the kind of prince who expects to become king without being really active like his other brothers (Jung, Won or Wang So).

As conclusion, the princes represent different kind of princes and their attitude towards the throne, like f. ex.

- a puppet: like Yo

- Won: someone with money but lacking in political support and he is not clever

 

Thanks to you @brielover, we can see a glimpse of the evolution of our drama and the ending:

- Hae Soo will reject Wang So first (he shows his pure ambition which shocks her) therefore she will distance herself from him. That's why he will struggle first so that Mu and Yo will become king before him.

- Hae Soo will realise that being ambitious is not something negative as such or that he was forced to so that she will finally love him implying she is supporting him.

- She will influence him in a good way so that he is first a good king.

- But at some point, they will be separated  (due to his obsession: his love for Goreyo will be too strong so that he overdoes it) therefore Wang So will change into a different ruler and king which will lead to hae Soo's death. Leaving him will change him: he will become the ruler she feared.

Okay, that's it. Thanks a lot for the support as people keep asking for my analysis. I hoped, it wasn't too boring. MAybe it was too long 

Tell me what you think about it... I am eager to get some feedback. @Yongzura @valsava @littleloony @junee22 @evie7 @40somethingahjumma

 

Interesting reading. I feel like I am back at school trying to interpret a piece of Shakespeare's work. If your analysis is right and the mythology of the river god's daughter played a part in the writer's mind, then I feel this drama's story is even better than the original Chinese novel.  However, I doubt that the writer of MLSHR had such intricate complexities to the plot in mind.  Too bad, it would make a good literary piece of its own and not an adaptation of the C-novel.  

[JMarei 64,797]

 

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Baek A Yeon joins the amazing line-up of #MoonLovers #ScarletHeartRyeo OST with the song '사랑인듯 아닌듯' to be released tonight at 12AM KST!!

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18 minutes ago, LyraYoo said:

Here is the subbed SBS version 

 

Wow!  Why on earth would they cut this scene off?  That was terrific.

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27 minutes ago, louisawatson said:

even though i loved how they showed Wang So's future darkened emperor version, i really had to laugh at how Hae Soo saw a VISION. i guess she got a superpower when she timetraveled. this is fantasy, so anything can happen, but i wished Hae Soo just remembers that she learned that it was 4th prince who became GwangJong in her history class in school. I mean she could have even guessed it! she remembered that Gwangjong was 4th emperor, so if she guessed that the order goes with oldest to youngest. then current emperor, crown prince, prince Yo, then prince So or prince Wook. and when she considers So and Wook's personalities, she could guess that Gwangjong is prince So who is known to be cruel.

 

I interpret hae soo's as revelation more than a premonition or a vision as if she has superpower. Go Ha Jin knows about Gwanjong but she doesn't know exactly who among those princes who  Gwang Jong is (because it is a post humous name to be given after the king dies) .

In reality, we only see photos /images of kings/emperors /royalties but we don't exactly know their physical/actual appearance. 

Also , she had wondered between the two (episode 6 ) but she could her judgment didnt come easily because she did not base the personality of one person to gauge who the terror king is. I think she never thought about Gwanjong as the 4th prince either. I like how inadequate her history lesson is, making her character closer to reality. I for one can not memorize a complete set of historical facts without digging the books. 

Headsno didnt sleep i believe !

Moon Lovers: Scarlet Heart Ryeo: Episode 8

by HeadsNo2 | September 19, 2016 | 2 Comments

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I asked my mother and aunt if they remembered what they studied about King Gwangjong from school and they both promptly said "he created the first Korean civil service exam, freed slaves and made Buddhism the official religion of Goryeo".  I had to laugh because they finished school a loooooooooong time ago (and yes, they are Korean and went to school in Korea) but clearly were required to remember these facts about Gwangjong.  I asked if King Gwangjong was known for killing his brothers because I don't remember being taught that and my mom said "whether Silla, Gogoryeo, Goryeo or Joseon, -- many killed their siblings and other family members in the fight for the throne.  I don't remember studying that Gwangjong killed more family members than any other king."

I know I've mentioned it before but I'll say it again, Gwangjong (formerly known as Prince Wang So) did execute members of powerful clan who opposed him but the only princes that history says Gwangjong killed were two nephews -- one was the son of Crown Prince Mu (2nd king of Goryeo) and the other was the son of 2nd prince Wang Yo (3rd king of Goryeo).  Gwangjong also executed one of his paternal uncles and I believe either executed General Park or exiled him.  I know that someone mentioned in one of the comments in this thread that Prince Wang Won was killed by Gwangjong but I haven't found been able to find anything that confirms it.

Interestingly, many things written about Gwangjong in recent years have come from other saeguks -- one saeguk said Prince Wang So was crazy and was cursed ("Shine or Go Crazy"?), another saeguk claimed that as king, Gwangjong went crazy and slashed his wife Queen Daemok with his sword and killed her in front of their son ("Iron Empress") but early historical records mentioned mostly Gwangjong's enormous expenditures on Buddhism and his dismantling of powerful clans who opposed his rule -- the same clans who destabilized the rules of his two brothers.

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40 minutes ago, callie1122 said:

 

Also, did anyone realize Royal Concubine's lowkey crush on the emperor in this ep? 

 

Actually Lady Oh aka the Royal Concubine was King Taejo's lover before he became King.