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On 9/16/2016 at 9:21 PM, solelylurking said:

 

See.. I thought my drama detective skill can come handy for us about to get inside his head for a while. KHN is a really great actor. He changes his gesture towards his co-actors according to his character personality. Wook already plan his step two pace ahead. I think it will be reveal when the race for the throne is on. I already suspect Wook is a double faced guy but boy, he is good. It's not only two faces his having, it's many. His mask only lowered and we could see a glimpse of himself in anything related to Soo. Soo is his weak link. He'll lose his calmness and his cold headed thinking is what makes him a great politician and a suitable heir to throne if you'll think about it. Better than Yo. It's too bad his father isn't notice about him. I get the vibe that he fears his father, idk why. That's why he dig his holes so low: to lose his father radar. When it comes to his father he's hovering on purpose. If his father knew about Soo it will used against him because to be honest his mother's children weren't on the King's favor. His father favor Mo and So, and hiding a secret agenda on his own. This is what makes me like Wook's character. He's the second in anything, the underdog even when he gets the upper hand first in romance. His character is tragic in every way you see it. B)

And you know how So is going to get back at Wook and make him eat his own words? By marrying YH but not loving her. Just imagine the look on Wook's face. It will be a sight to see isn't it? *insertevillaugh*

I like the swirling hugs. For me it's like they're moon dancing in fast pace. WS has a soft spot for Soo. I like it that way. It makes him able to do anything for her. And it makes WS different from the 4th from C vers. 

I'm glad we can exchange notes happily here.. We'll our prediction is half right: Wook is going to interfere SoSoo convers. By the look in his face when he decide to follow it's not a going to be good. Let's just see more if our theories are right this time. I'll tag you as soon I'm done watching it. Promise. 

I see Wang Wook like you. He is well-mannered but he is hiding a lot. He never shares anything to anyone, like for example when Hae Soo described the leader as a man with a fur. It was interesting that neither Wook nor So shared their discovery. Everyone realised the importance of the clue, but both brothers kept the discovery to themselves. Sure, they couldn't do it in front of Hae Soo, yet they never shared their thoughts. He never mentioned it to his sister as well. That way, we can see that he is keeping every single information to himself. From my point of view, he has noticed that it is better to keep his thoughts and discovery to himself. On the other hand, this became a habit to him, to hide everything (thoughts, feelings). That's why he was never able to say to his wife that he loved her. However, Hae Soo is his weakness as she is the reason why he started talking to his wife about his thoughts. Hae Soo was the trigger, he opened up, yet he is aware that this might cause him trouble. Now, I am wondering if Wang Wook will decide to race for the throne because of Hae Soo (in order to have her back) or in order to destroy Wang So who took her.

Could it be that Wang Wook will use Yo in the fight for the Crown? I know that he will join him, but as soon as Yo is the king, I can imagine that Wang Wook might try to work behind Yo's back, well aware of Yo's weaknesses. Based on Hae Soo's premonition, the third king has a knife in his hand, when he dies and it looks like it is Yoo. Is he killed or does he kill himself?  Wang Wook is dangerous because he appears so nice, yet he shouldn't be trusted.

Will we see in the next episode Yo's complaining to his father about his favouritism among his sons? I am looking forward to watching the competition between Wang So and Wang Wook. 

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6 hours ago, LyraYoo said:

With the discussion about the scar I also remember that nobody from Wang So's brothers know about the scar except Wang Mo( wait not sure if Yo knows). That also explains why Queen SMS is very adamant in keeping So in the palace. He may use it as ace against Yoo (yet the King knows about her plot of overthrowing the Crown Prince.

Good Friday Scarlet Lovers, Checking in late and you guy's have this thread on fire over 9100 comments made and still more to come and were not upon episode 10 yet Kudos Lovers.. Now on to answering @LyraYoo In my very own opinion I think YO do know his mom scared WS face because when BA was aking her about it he jump in quick to her defense.. Yo is older then So so he must have herd or seen young So at that time knowing his mom did that I mean the new even travel outside the palace even the common people know.. As I mention before The queen had to hush this gossip up quick because she could have been dethrone for her action against a defenless boy. If that had of been a concubines child they would have declared her to nuts to hold the title queen..  It's more to the aftermath of So incident and his scare what gets me none of the other children or even asking how did he get the scare it's not like young So did it himself.. Also who would have nerve enough to take in the King and Queen child and have nerve to not treat him as royal with the utmost care.. The family that took him in was supported by the Queen and they only had one job as that was to make it look like and accident and kill him.. But as we see So is a survivor he's been fighting all his young life this is why it's no surprise to me that he fights to become King he's owe that much.. The only person that holds any other survival skills next to him isthe CP.. He has fought in wars next to the King on the front line..

6 hours ago, redfrommars said:

EP 7 BTS ENG SUB is available on twitter but I don't know how embed the video...

someone has mentioned that Knetizens refer to the ship as SoHae, should we just follow that so we're one together with them or at least at that as the ship name when we tweet? we have so many ship names for our OTP xDD

@redfrommars  No need to fellow the netz they never follow us one minute they will say one thing the next another We in the forum call them the So Soo couple because it sounds better and So combines both there names..

6 hours ago, ilovekorearocks said:

I presume that every prince was given the opportunity to do the ritual as Wang Wook talked about his desire to free Hae Soo if it rains and WY during that confrontation (slap scene- sound like a soap opera) between WS and WY in front of that imperial palaquin or something, that he would like to be a King if it rains. It looks like things will escalate by next week

 @ilovekorearocks I'ts about time because HS and WW really beginning to bore me with they shoo fly love I'm ready for the course of this drama to take a turn of events and more of WS is being shown and hope to see him back in and action scene showing off his capabilities.. Especially with tamming the shrew (The Queen) and if need be put WY mom in check if she crosses the line with him why should he respect her when he don't his own mother Queen Evil.. But I do expect at some point they will clash heads because she will want WW on the throne and he's not having it..

6 hours ago, Putri Dewi said:

i know Queen yoo hate king taejo, but why she hates wang so soo much?? it is hatred towards the king not wang so

even after she hurts wang so's face, she doesnt feel guilty at all

he can love wang yo, but not wang so (?)

@Putri Dewi  This also been bothering me my only thought is besides the CP So had to be a favorite of the KIng or she was envious of his looks maybe one of those forseen shaman had told her of So future and she didn't like it but my personal favorite is she was jealous of his looks.. His features was soft as any young girl who could pass as a girl maybe it has something to do with he would  grow to outshine her.. Look at how handsome he is even with the scare that reminds her of how ugly she is..

6 hours ago, Putri Dewi said:

as for jisoo & baekhyun, they are too young & childish to understand about respect

as for hae soo - i have no idea

Also this is apart of the queens doing regardless he is they brother they older brother and should be taught to respect him no matter what.. I really thinks she afraid of the others finding out she really did this to him..

5 hours ago, skxz said:

However I am still unsure how marrying her it will benefit or help him. How will their marriage help protect Hae Soo? We all know that Yeon Hwa hates Hae Soo's guts. That girl cannot stand the idea of Soo being around so getting rid of her would probably be the highest on her priority list.

@skxz I think it would be a shift in the power in the court as well as the inner palace.. YH saw HS as a threat as soon as she supposed to have awaken from her coma.. I knew she would want to get rid of her because she feels that HS is usurping her terittory.. She was the only girl around all those princes and she need all those eyes foscus on her all accept the princes her mom bore which she knows it would not be one of them to take the throne next.. But So marrying her will automatic have her clans people backing him because she would become Queen.. Don't know if someone else explained it but this is how I see it but this is his benefit little as she knows So isn't going to bow down to anyone you see he told the King how to elelmenate that one clan he didn't have to use marriage to do it..

 

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37 minutes ago, meahri_1 said:

Chingu, I feel really bad for telling you this, but Kang Haneul did say in his Singapore interview that Wook and Haesoo don't share a kiss.

EDIT: and @MadraRua is correct, they typically don't like the lead kissing both the 1st and 2nd leads. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it rarely does.

But I wanted to see a kiss of KHN-IU...guess it has to be in another drama (if that ever happens T.T) Are you sure KHN wasn't lying? :lol: I am SoSoo shipper...but KHN and IU's chemistry is so good that I really wanted a kiss like in the chinesse version. :o

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3 minutes ago, Gabi Bros said:

But I wanted to see a kiss of KHN-IU...guess it has to be in another drama (if that ever happens T.T) Are you sure KHN wasn't lying? I am SoSoo shipper...but KHN and IU's chemistry is so good that I really wanted a kiss like in the chinesse version. :o

@Gabi Bros I agree. They have really good chemistry also. I have actually kept that at the back of my mind, that he could have told a white lie...cause why would you share a spoiler like that? But the further along we get in the story, it's now more unlikely it will happen.

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*phew* its getting tougher day by day to keep up with this thread... it took me more than 2 hours to read last 8 pages.. still have marked couple of posts with some great analysis jusy cause my brain has no more space to let anything seriours enter and analyze it.

@USAFarmgirl I was about to start the c version tomorrow but after reading ur input I hav postponed my idea till SHR finishes and then only ill start it.

@solelylurking

chingu ya.. you are going good with ur sherlock cap on reading so much in Wook and it does help me in trying to understand what he is made up of and thinks and does. 

Both WW and WS will influence others love story with HS that too in directly proportional manner... more WW will show his affection towards HS more it will instigate WS to search for his place im HSs heart and more he will do more it will force WW to take extreme steps to have HS back.

ok now I am off to bed hoping to see scarlet dream too..

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My first post for this series here :) I am loving all the comments posted here. It took me a while to get obsessed with the drama. Prime reason being they were showing so little of Lee Jun Ki in the earlier episodes. But now I am finding myself watching and re-watching the episodes. I am enjoying the drama more after I read the analysis here! 

I love the music that is playing in the background when WW is teaching HS to write. I utterly loved the WS and HS horseback escape. It was shot and edited with perfection. 

I find princess YH's and empress yoon's characters most interesting... Its amazing how manipulative and blindly passionate a woman can be. I still dont understand how angry can the queen be to hurt (and continue to keep hurting) her own son. I also love HS. But I love WS the most!! Lee Jun Ki is the only reason I started watching this drama! cute-cry-raccoon-emoticon.gif

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Hello eclipses......so I only just wrapped up some persistent work and watched eps 6-7 again in detail. I wanted to write about a lot of thoughts I had because I havent been able to spazz this week. So please bear with me and forgive me if a lot of it is redundant coz I have round 30 pages to back read all the awesome stuff.

Going by the SBS version-

Lady Hae dies and Wook is consumed with guilt. Have you all noticed that when he breaks down in front of Su he mentions that he only now realizes that his feelings for his wife were not mere duty and gratitude but love. If that is his actual realization then he should be quite grief stricken for a long time and take some time to come to terms with his feelings. Even for the sake of limited episodes it makes no sense he got over his wife he claims to have loved quite that fast. Plus what exactly does he feel for Su then? I mean how many different types of romantic love can you feel simultaneously? It makes me think that Wook either doesnt realize what love means to him or he is probably unable to be sincere/ commit to the idea of being in love and having affection for another freely.....something I think that is a side effect of his upbringing and responsibilities.

Coming to Wang Yo- I think of him as that jerk who is slashing at everyone with his words and stirring up anger but never quite goes all out. He has some limited powers that he likes to flaunt and laud over others but is always shying way from actually acting in the open. Like So has said numerous times- a cowardly person who never does take up his claims for the throne with the king but just keeps needling his brothers. On the other hand, under the tutelage of crazy eomma he has developed quite the delusion of Goryeo being his. Till now I don't actually see him as a strong contender for the throne because he really keeps showing his hand quite plainly and I dont believe he is actually that powerful a leader. Plus I have the distinct impression that all that greed he has would definitely make him loose the throne if he ever got it as well as his life......a justified end IMO.

Su's elopement or the try for it- Okay even though we got to see LJK and the horse having awesome chemistry (I did read those fevered posts :D) and SU and So being intimately seated......this entire elopement plan by Wook made no sense to me. a) as head of the household and keeper of Su he never got full info on the groom to begin with :huh: b.) YH again has the most say in determining Su's future :huh:.....the Su that Wook clearly is having a hard time thinking wont be his (person/ possession) c) why on earth does Su need to be packed off to the groom's place in like the span of 10 minutes....what is the urgency? d) really Wook why would you go out on a full gallop in front of everyone who cares to see with a pink hooded figure.....when you should be with those idiot uncles delaying their departure and not arousing any suspicion? aaaand you were caught with no excuse as to why you have Eun in a pink robe??? Anyone with half a brain would instantly deploy men all over the forest to find Su in that instant the stunt was pulled.......this entire plan was :huh:

And how the hell Jimong took that exact same route to corner So-Su! Plus it looks like there would be two sedan chairs?? one that was gonna depart with Su from Wook's place and the other that Jimong had with him.......do you really need 2 sedans??? on the other hand I loved the instrumental bgm that was playing when So was riding with Su :wub:

About the king and queeen Yu's confrontation-----There is this moment when the king plainly accuses her of wanting to kill Mu and get the throne......there is this look of shock on Queen Yu's face which I think was very well done. She knows very well that the accusation is true but the look she gives the king----as if she can't quite believe the king would dream of accusing her of something like this.....and then walks away like a boss to indicate that her pride is hurt and she wouldnt bother with explanations is so like a person would react if truly blameless and her self respect has been hurt....I applaud her on the act she put on.

Lastly for ep 6 I think two people were quite effected by Su's scar attempt-----One was obviously So and the other I feel is lady Oh. I don't think both of these people were expecting Su to be brave enough or desperate enough to do what she did and they just realised how they might have underestimated her spirit. So begins to care for her wellbeing earnestly and not in a hitherto slightly aloof way while lady Oh is impressed by her sincerity and commitment to her beliefs.

Okay that's it for ep 6. Will write about ep 7 tomorrow and sorry y'all for this huuuuge post.

 

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The wiki page addition was honestly a little much. I love Hae Soo character, but part of her being fictitious makes all the charm. 
Doing a little reading on lives of court ladies and concubines...I don't think a real hae Soo who went back in time would survive.
If it were me I know I would have done something eventually that will have me charged with treason!

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4 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

@Adnana I wanted to compliment you for your comment posted p. 451 good job onion head where you used many pictures crazy monkeyfrom the next episode and tried to figure out the story for the next episode. But I would like to complete your story.

Since there is a drought, a ritual for rain is requested therefore the royal family has to pray for rain. I believe, Wang So will try to be present for the rain ritual and his mother paid people  to throw things at him get out crazy rabbit in order to show him that he should leave the palace and to make him feel that he is cursed. After this painful event, he confronts his mother for keeping harassing him pink mouse. This could be one of the reasons why he thinks about the throne, nonetheless the scar is his handicap. Hae Soo hears about the new humiliation and tries to help him with his scar. milk bottle Since all the princes have to come to pray until it rains, at some point, it is Wang So's turn. Wang Yo tries to stop him, yet when the mask falls, there is no huge scar any more and Wang So's ego is not hurt any longer. He does the rain ritual and when it rains, he realises that he might have chances to become king as well. On the other hand, Wang Wook tells her about his intentions that if it rains, he will talk about Hae Soo to the king, but unfortunately it rains after Wang So's ritual so that either Wang Wook doesn't need to do the rain ritual or if he does it, it doesn't rain. 

 

Thanks @Adnana .

Thanks @bebebisous33 for a little more comprehensive understanding of future developments. This is what I like about the K-version when it has its own elements;  WS's background of his scarred face, soap manufacturing , beauty treatment, HS' s genius slashing of her wrist to get out of marriage and now this rain ritual. ... among others. These Korean elements give a better and fresher perspective to MLSH , instead of" borrowing " heavily ( or adapted ) from the C-version which was meticulous in the characterisations of the princes and their backgrounds that resulted in their actions. It's difficult to get top quality story arc if it keeps hopping on and off the BBJX iconic scenes.

THIS IS IT ........ The start of conflicts and pivotal turns....... I'm so rubbing my hands in glee at how the K-drama unfolds. WS vs WW for "their "  woman , the throne, the brother-princes' divided alliances. I would like to see more of HS's ability to use her modern 21st century knowledge to overcome obstacles living in the Joseon period and to choose her lover ( history is a good deciding factor girl )  I hope for interesting conspiracies, the palace intrigues, the harsh reality of conqueror and the vanquish...... just bring it on.

Of course the romance is now full blown and has all the sizzles of a scar-less handsome LJK and the counter offerings of the delectable KHN. Throw in the Prince with the penchant for eyeliner and earrings ( but he IS cool in an evil way B) ) and we are set for a chart-rising drama ( hopefully :sweatingbullets: ) I wish I was the PD for then I'd be able to offer the princess to him to marry in a heartbeat. :P

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13 hours ago, KdramaSwimmer said:

*phew* its getting tougher day by day to keep up with this thread... it took me more than 2 hours to read last 8 pages.. still have marked couple of posts with some great analysis jusy cause my brain has no more space to let anything seriours enter and analyze it.

@USAFarmgirl I was about to start the c version tomorrow but after reading ur input I hav postponed my idea till SHR finishes and then only ill start it.

@solelylurking

chingu ya.. you are going good with ur sherlock cap on reading so much in Wook and it does help me in trying to understand what he is made up of and thinks and does. 

Both WW and WS will influence others love story with HS that too in directly proportional manner... more WW will show his affection towards HS more it will instigate WS to search for his place im HSs heart and more he will do more it will force WW to take extreme steps to have HS back.

ok now I am off to bed hoping to see scarlet dream too..

 

Yes @KdramaSwimmer...... just do that . I have been mulling over @USAFarmgirl's write-up and find it interesting and insightful. Love to read another perspective view of it. YOUR SAY NOW.

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@briseis 

agreed!!! that how different HS and RX is.. 

RX already have full knowledge about the Emperor at that time and she always on guard and careful because she did't want to change anything.. RX character is more clever and always on mind games to survive the palace.. that's why she always left an impression that she kinda manipulative in palace games.. she survived using her mind but HS on other hand is really a naive and innocent.. she does't know who will became a king or how ruthless palace can be.. that why her relationship with the prince is more sincere and deep.. HS is using her heart that always wanted to make everyone better..

i wonder how she going to survive all the betrayal and torment although i must admit that HS will go to extreme level if she wanted just like when she cut her wrist.. 

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1 hour ago, meahri_1 said:

@Gabi Bros I agree. They have really good chemistry also. I have actually kept that at the back of my mind, that he could have told a white lie...cause why would you share a spoiler like that? But the further along we get in the story, it's now more unlikely it will happen.

Isn't a kdrama heroine supposed to have her first kiss with the main lead :P

ANyway.. don't mind the news.. since i am on the other ship that still has to go into the water :angry: .. whatever.. let her taste the fierce passionate romance from the word go..

The gentleman romance can happen offscreen :) ( haha.. yes the evil streak of the opposing ship.. that has yet to go into water.. :( )

 

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