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[Drama 2016] Moon Lovers ❤ Scarlet Heart Ryeo, 달의 연인-보보경심 려 \^0^/ Soompi Kdrama 2016 Winner

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Just barely able to stand upright after watching episode 7 with subs...... and trying to catch up with at least 10 pages of back read..... It's an interesting episode .... hmmmnnn..... so many mishmash of so many different things..... WW and HS intensifying romance, WS stirring intense feeling, 10 th birthday party which seems like a k-pop idols participation in a variety show  < sorry > , a very lusty and scheming Number 3, an itching CP., smirky Queen, cold court ladies.....and and and ..... a bear woman..... haizzzz.......etc etc...

I think I suffer from the to-ing and fro-ing of MLSH to BBJX, interjecting certain scenes of the C-version and then running willy nilly off back to its K-drama roots.  I try to distance the 2 dramas so I can find it easy to watch the K-version but it's soooooo distracting. I think I know what's ailing me..... Tong Hua's exquisite writing which is why  even the " sequel " BBQX is a MEH ... because it wasn't a written by the novelist.

Thanks to those who put a explanatory perspetive to certain puzzling events...... I recall @immortalangel, @liddi @MoOnLoVeRz.... pardon me, I read the back posts in haste... will check again those whose posts resonate with me,

Also @bebebisous33..... you are in your element..... good repartee.

Ta...... back to real life.... !! Thanks everyone for your contribution. So many exceptional posters.

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4 hours ago, qwenli said:

 

This is the korea online amazon equivalent - interpark online book sale.

Apparently, Koreans have been buying the books of the dramas. For Scarlet Heart books, the sales has increased more than 160 percent since the drama, broadcasted. Current "Scarlet Heart sets (total of 3 books)" climbs on September 1, the top 10 best-selling novels.

Interpark Books Marketing Team bakhyeryeon said, " Buyers buy to compare the character One is how to enjoy the original drama that compares the drama character and writing, including the similarity between the original and drama" he said.
 

I don't understand why the book is out before the drama has finished screening. Doesn't it give away the ending? or is it a translation of the original novel?

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53 minutes ago, uuugogirl said:

 

 

To answer your question in the spoiler: yes, WS will soon find out about WW-Soo's affair  (LJG said it himself in the cast interview) And soon WS will get jealous with Wook, and becomes obsessed with Haesoo, and then he keeps getting very jealous later on :sweatingbullets:  I hope So won't be too insecure because of it. :sweatingbullets:

 

Oh.... wow..... OBSESSED.... that's a strong word..... *imagination runs wild*.... Predicting the things he will do to her since he is not as calm as the one in the Chinese version. :lol::lol::lol:

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Aaaahhhhh ..... had to come back and yell out how beautiful WS is...... with or without his mask.... a face that can launch a million hearts. WW is swoon worthy, so sweet, tender  and handsome but when is he turning into an ambitious and scheming Prince vying for the throne ? Would love to see a chess like manouvering with WS and their teamsto outwit each other,  I thought HS's slashing her wrist is a stroke of genius to get out of marrying the King.... yes that really stumped the " old man with many sons....."hahaha :rolleyes: And the bracelet WW gave her is simply lovely.... surely that will seal a girl's heart for eternity. :heart:

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3 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

I suppose, you mean Wang Wook, the 8th prince, since Prince Wang Yo, the 3rd prince is so mean and such a coward.

However, I wanted to reply to your description about Hae Soo's feelings for Wang Wook. I agree with your description. Hae Soo doesn't love Wang Wook. First, she said that she liked him which reflects her true feelings. She could have said, she loved him, but she didn't. Secondly, I think like you. Wang Wook seems to behave like her ex-boyfriend. The latter was good looking, nice to her therefore she had no idea what he was doing behind her back. She is such a honest person so that she is unable to see the true personality of people. She trusts people too easily because she thinks, as long as she is honest, the others will do the same. That's why her life has not been working so well for her, because she can't imagine that people can be greedy, selfish and dishonest.

Then since the betrayal, she needed someone who would tell her that he loved her in order to reboost her low self-esteem. She is like Wang So, she needs to feel being loved but she is acting the opposite to Wang So as the latter doesn't allow people to come close to him. To me, Wang Wook is just a rebound because she is making the exact same mistakes like before. Wang Wook keeps making promises but the latter always fails. However, Hae Soo is not noticing it at all therefore she is not criticising him for it. She says that she will wait, that he doesn't need to feel pressured aso. She is so selfless that Wang Wook is taking advantage of it. And in my opinion, the ex-boyfriend must have acted in a similar way because he left her with a huge amount of debts. 

Her conversation with Wang So at the beginning is really telling. She is too naive therefore Wang So is confronting her with the harsh reality. 

While she is such an optimistic person, which can be helpful sometimes, Wang So is the opposite. Through her, Wang So discovers life, how to enjoy it and see the positive aspects, while with him, Hae Soo will learn to be more alert around people and less naive. Finally, Wang So who has learnt from his childhood to mistrust anyone, meets such a honest and direct person so that he starts learning to open up.  

 

yeah yeah I wrote wrong...8th prince :)..obviously she hurt so much in her modern era life. we also saw a little moment that she is running away from bunch of ajummas....maybe they related with him or with Ha Jin's best friend...or again about cosmetic! but she hurt so much and she just want someone who is nice to her, gentle and can understand her well. Also he likes his handsome face..she said few times "he is handsome"..thats also process of her learning. she will learn to look at people inside. she will learn to care and we humans like to be loved more than love other side. she will learn how to love someone, care someone with everything he have...Ha Jin is obviously older than Hae Soo but still she is in teenage girl mind and this love stories will be a lesson to her in a real grown-up process. obviously she send back to past for 3 reason...change her point of view, learn love and help 4th prince/stop the things he will made with her new matured  life view. 

 

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@bebebisous33  Amaze me with your sharp observation. I never thought that Wang So sees himself in her eye. I couldn't explain to myself his assertion about hating the look in her eyes. Thank you for made me understand.

 

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15 hours ago, Gabi Bros said:

The drama is pre-produced. They needed to have edited all the episodes and approved by the Chinesse Government in order to be able to be broadcasted simultaneously there. They were running out of time and at last moment they got the approval, just a few days after the conflict between China and South Korea. Long Story...search about THAAD. It's related to politics. Because of THAAD, Chinesse government decided to take revenge with the entertainment industry. Suddenly they were banning korean stars to appear in chinesse productions, no matter if they were filming, also they were banning korean dramas to be broadcasted no matter the inversion. Well, seems that Moon Lovers had luck...maybe because all the episodes were already bought by chinesse at really high prices...so maybe Youku/Mango TV/and more (the ones that bought) cry a bit and the government let Moon Lovers pass. I don't know...but they gave them the OK at the end. So that version, is the original and the same that DramaFever, Youku, ONE TV (and others) have.

Moon Lovers is broadcasted in SBS for the people of South Korea. Some viewers were complaining that the OST were distracting and the story hard to understand. So SBS decided to re-release Directors Cuts a Saturday for the first 3 episodes (a marathon one Saturday) in which they added a few deleted scenes from the first version or more extended ones for an easier understanding. In that version, are deleted the rap parts of some ost...also the ost were made shorter and they added more instrumentals. After that, SBS is broadcasting another version without telling the world. :sweatingbullets: In episode 4 and 5 they did not made major changes, only fix some songs for instrumentals. Episode 6 and 7 have ost fixed and new scenes were added...and in order to add scenes, they need to delete some of the first version.

The version that Moon Lovers has given to SBS is more my taste. Also, Moon Lovers don't have permission to give China the new version. That's why there are 2 versions lately. 

 

Thank you very much for the explanation, cleared my confusion earlier with many versions of this drama. 

I watched the latest ep in both version,i think i prefer the SBS version more.

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I feel sorry for WS in a way, I mean he has the scar to remind him but he is made to feel lowly by all around him, to some extent i think he has toughened himself up enough to protect himself.  But at the end of that last episode she nievely tries to bond him back with his family, she wants the best but I feel she doesnt understand and thats what i think hurts him the most.  

To him it must look like she too is an outsider like he is in many ways. But the look in her eyes at the scar and what went down makes him feel even worse than anything his family could do to him.  I think it takes alot for him to care about anyone but to think all she is doing is looking at him with pity just makes him resent her i expect.

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3 hours ago, uuugogirl said:

 

Personally, i really love a happy ending for So in his Goryeo life, he had been through so many tragic happenings, but i don't think PD-nim had confidence to rewrite history, even he got a creative lisence to history, this action is not only to prevent the controversy and backslash of K-audience, but also to respect the Korean ancestor.
I always think there must be a good reason to justify historical Wang So's action. He purged all the noble clans, killed his brothers, nephews, advisors and his own son, then spending money lavishly to build numerous Buddhist temples and perform rituals and drove the kingdom into debt because he was so obsessed with that religion. And we all know that Buddhism believes in reincarnation and spirituality, right?  There must be something that caused him to obsess with it. In this case, maybe Wang So wanted to reunite with his long lost true love? :(

 

I've read in wiki and somewhere i forgot, he purged the rich clans who have been control the court since previous kings, then he gave chance to people to get positions in the court. It's written he was good king for his people. There are no mentioned about him killing his brothers. Though in his later life, he started to change to worse. 

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2 hours ago, qwenli said:

 

sorry to cut your post, but well said indeed.

I will like to start some positive energy by starting a post to compliment the drama.

First up for praises:

1) the elaborate sets - man, they got an indoor pool! complete with steam and flowers! :D

2) the effort to go all over Korea to choose the best heritage places, for filming! Korea is not a small country, from Seoul to some of these other provinces, requires an hour by plane or 3-5 hour drive. Many of these places are remote, so they will have to bring lighting and power generators to do filming.

3) the ensemble casts - with so many princes to choose from, surely there will one for every kind of taste! haha.

4) the gorgeous costumes - IU kinda like have 1-2 dress per episodes? That girl sure has a large wardrobe! Even Joongi has more than a few masks. lol

5) the numerous osts - no matter whether they are suitable or nice, this is one of the drama that I am seeing so many osts!

Please post your compliments to start a positive movement too! 

 

 

6) the cinematography of several scenes - HS&Wook walking in snow  (angle of camera from high above), WS's killing spree at the temple, WS&HS scenes at the beautiful lake 

7) the huge cast of good looking people otherwise known as eye candies

8) taking viewers feedback seriously and released SBS version for Seoul market 

 

@junee22  As professionals, I hope they look at the feedback (sometimes known as criticism) and think hard if there's any truth in it, then take steps to improve their next project. Only people who cares will give feedback. If ratings is low and no one bothers to say anything, their work will never improve. 

 

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@bebebisous33 -- Friend, what a great post on what was probably going through So's mind in that last few minutes. Totally agree about So seeing himself in Su's eyes. I do see some overlaps in our thinking too and not just about Uk.

I don't think he's a playboy at all though. In fact, it's the opposite. He's lived his life largely in books. He's a man of letters: books, poetry and writing. He probably has something of the scholar's naïveté. Lots of head knowledge but little practical experience. To me he's more like Romeo before the death of Mercutio.

I would definitely agree that he lacks concrete ideas on how he's supposed to work towards his happily-ever-after. Normally I don't worry about such things but he can't keep stringing Su along with nebulous promises indefinitely.

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3 hours ago, bebebisous33 said:

I disagree with you. Yeon Hwa can't marry Yo because she would suffer the exact same fate than her mother. She would be a wife among others and she would be depend of Yo's good will. What Yeon Hwa wants is to become The Queen and not just Queen. She has the same dream than Queen Yoo, yet the latter never succeeded therefore she is trying to use Yo in order to become The Queen. And this is the other reason why Yeon Hwa can never marry Yo. When Yo becomes the king, the Queen will be his mother. She will be the one who shines the most.

This line reminds me of Game of Thrones. It's fitting since Moon Lovers also deals with a race to become king. :P

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I don´t really understand why some people don´t enjoy these drama. For me it´s great, I like the characters and the history. But also like the Ost.
Beautiful songs for everytime!!!

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7 hours ago, aypopa said:

The funny thing is we all know what will happen we just what to see it how HS fall in love ...first kiss ...  hug omo i relly need that hahahah but i want to see this young Girl from 21 centure to Go after her man .... and this sexy princess melt for her ....i start my imagination so i must stop .....

But why monday is after 4 days why ....

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